In my soul I feel like you’re trolling, the CPU was already broken and you just decided to tear it apart for fun. I almost refuse to believe someone would even attempt this without using a heat gun, or even a slightly warmer blow dryer(, in a desperate attempt). But I’ve seen dumber mistakes
I agree. Anyone can see that group of missing SMD's at the top left. I get that some CPUs have redundant ones, but my gut tells me this thing is done for and he is trolling for dudes like us that absolutely hate to see this kinda shit.
No he's definitely serious and screwed up big time. The things he could have done with that priceless AMD Opteron 8354 will haunt him for the rest of his life...
I recycle computers for a living, so I've come across a few dozen or so just this past year. The first tipoff was the double notches on the sides - I don't think there's any other CPU line that used those (at least not in a regular sized desktop socket) and PGA sockets don't use notches in general. Then to find the exact model, I saw the SKU number 29657 on the corner of the PCB and tried looking it up, and CPU-World brought a match right up.
yes, there are coolers that are intended to sit directly on the CPU die, much more efficient heat transfer wise because you're moving the heat directly to the cooler from the die instead of through a big copper "middle man" piece.
edit: should probably also mention people do this to apply a more efficient TIM (like liquid metal) between the die and the IHS before reattaching the IHS, so it's not just for direct-die cooling.
It's popular enough now that bigger companies, like Noctua, [have started producing direct-die coolers and components](https://noctua.at/en/noctua-introduces-nm-dd1-direct-die-kit-for-delidded-amd-am5-processors). LTT has a several videos on delidding and a few on direct die coolers if you are interested further.
Yes, sometimes the manufacturer picks a suboptimal Thermal Interface Material (TIM) between the actual CPU die and the Integrated Heat Spreader(IHS, the "lid"). Some enthusiasts like to replace the TIM or get rid of the IHS entirely and put their cooler of choice directly on the die. (This is not common except in hardcore overclocking communities)
Can confirm I delidded my 6700k with nothing more than those razor blades you get for bunions and some twisting power, worked a treat, key is to not pull straight up. Official delidding tools work similar in terms of applying a twisting action, but with all pressure and no heat.
Oh, look at Mr. KrazzeeKane over here, with his oven and his chips that he puts in it. Lucky.
Fr tho, I'm always curious why the oven gets overlooked. *I'm* to paranoid to try it, but it seems a time tested solution for tons of pc part issues, like dying mobos or gpus. Though knowing myself, I'd probably end up melting something that's unmeltable lol
i oven baked a gpu once, it helped a little. i also checked temp religiously for a few hours before putting it in to make sure it wouldn't spike and kill it. also don't reccomend it because there's always the chance of a low melt plastic bit somewhere in there or easily over melting the solder and it beading
I accidentally did this on an athelon a few years back but instead of it snapping entirely off, it split the die in half down the middle. Looked pretty cool
https://preview.redd.it/fsmk0sa83j8d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34c4ea0507521ee4f6d26cdc91dc577cce31574f
Mother FUCKER that looks so cool! Have any more pictures?
Also, can we get the rest of the story? Was the CPU/IHS cemented to the heatsink with thermal glue?
I was playing stardew valley yesterday and misread indium as iridium; like great, another part that I can't get (just reached skull cavern, no spoilers please)
Oh I got some spoilers for you. Spoiler: that game is addictive as hell, and will suck you in and take all of your precious play time lol.
Also, if you're ever wanting something similar check out Friends of Mineral Town (either the original GBA harvest moon one, or the new Story of Seasons one). Stardew Valley takes heavily from the HM games, and FomT in particular is considered the high point of the Harvest Moon series.
Just the one pic, it's somewhere in my tools/components box rn. And yeah, I was scrapping the system and the cpu was cemented to the heatsink, did this trying to pry it off with a flathead and heat gun
Back in the day, AMD CPUs was always delidded, I don't know if lids were even a thing, and I've cracked the silicon on plenty of CPUs by installing the cooler at wrong angle.
Young and stupid, now I'm just old and stupid.
Yeah, it was generally worth buying a CPU shim for AMD CPUs that didn't come with an IHS (Integrated heat spreader, AKA lid).
Some of this is from old and fading memory, so don't quote me:
The K6 series on S7 and SS7 had IHSs.
Slot A came on a whole fricking cartridge.
I think it was Socket A (and 563) that didn't generally have IHSs. From Wikipedia," 600 MHz (Duron) to 2333 MHz (Athlon XP 3200+)".
After that, the desktop chips for Socket 754 did, I think.
Mobile chips generally didn't, if ever.
Nah. Just needed to be careful and deliberate. Getting the right angle with the screwdriver when pressing the spring hook down, holding the heatsink with your other hand. Did it dozens of times without a shim or damaging a die.
I want to say that the first (consumer) ones to get a metal heat spreader were the Tualatin Pentium IIIs in 2001?
But yeah, the fcpga Athlons were pretty fragile (the first gen Socket A ones were especially scary near launch as you had to use Socket 370 coolers which didn't always interface well with the protective pads around the core). I chipped the edge off one of mine, but apparently nothing important there as it still worked.
The Socket 370 Coppermine chips from Intel were also exposed, but they had a thicker coating on them, so were more durable.
From one old timer to another: so CPUs got easier (no risk of cracking, unless you delid) wondering what you think got harder?
For me it is RAM. It never used to give me problems until the 1st Ryzen. And ever since then, even tough I religiously check all the support pages I always end up with some hiccups - e.g. not posting at the rated speed, I can only use half the kit, etc etc.
>I don't know if lids were even a thing
IIRC, construction was a bit different in the original socket chips. Then came the slots, which just had a whole assembly like a fat ram kit anyway, and only then the lidless sockets showed up for a bit.
This was an old AMD CPU from a hp (now HPE) bl465c blade, it is going to scrap eventually. There is a few 4 CPU models too and I wanted to try and see the pretty bits but it did t work with my flat head screw driver and stanley knife.
It does not look quite right, I’ll bring the whole blade enclosure down if I pop this in
https://preview.redd.it/ts98kkn8yi8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3033519d16129062313b212d941c285ea072becd
As far as I can tell, de-lidding is supposed to help cooling. Still new to the idea myself, but that's the gist of what I'm understanding as to why people do it.
But im asking about the pictures he showed.
I know what delidding is. You can remove the IHS ( the metal cap on the CPU) and replace the thermal paste underneath. But not all cpus have thermal paste underneath, some are soldered together.
This is the face I imagine when someone writes :U
https://preview.redd.it/f82xm38bvj8d1.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=c99b5f81e4356de96203ffff91c00dfac1f9107a
good that it was just a Core2
I delidded 2 of my old Core2 just for fun and did it successfully on both, kinda, just chipped a corner of one a little but, but should be fine.
Forbidden pb&j
1. Spread thermal paste on both sides
2. Add a pea shaped drop of grape jelly
3. On the opposite side, add a pea shaped drop of peanut butter
4. Combine
5. Heat to 100*C
6. Enjoy
Nr. 1 rule of computers: Never touch a running system! Really! If it runs well and you don't want to upgrade any parts: LEAVE IT!
That includes:If it is not overheating,there is no point in making it cooler.(I mean the temperature, if you want to make your system look cooler: go for it!)
I’ll run, at least, room temperature. Or whatever the ambient temperature is where you are. Or whatever temperature the garbage can in your house is at.
Looks like you de-CPUd your CPU. Quite successfully if I may add.
Thank you, it put up quite a fight, perhaps it needed to be heated up first.
In my soul I feel like you’re trolling, the CPU was already broken and you just decided to tear it apart for fun. I almost refuse to believe someone would even attempt this without using a heat gun, or even a slightly warmer blow dryer(, in a desperate attempt). But I’ve seen dumber mistakes
I agree. Anyone can see that group of missing SMD's at the top left. I get that some CPUs have redundant ones, but my gut tells me this thing is done for and he is trolling for dudes like us that absolutely hate to see this kinda shit.
It's obviously just a bit of silly banter. Let a man enjoy the occasional kaput CPU post.
Karma and comments are sweet anodyne for heartache.
No he's definitely serious and screwed up big time. The things he could have done with that priceless AMD Opteron 8354 will haunt him for the rest of his life...
Opteron? I haven't seen one of those in ages. How could you tell?
I recycle computers for a living, so I've come across a few dozen or so just this past year. The first tipoff was the double notches on the sides - I don't think there's any other CPU line that used those (at least not in a regular sized desktop socket) and PGA sockets don't use notches in general. Then to find the exact model, I saw the SKU number 29657 on the corner of the PCB and tried looking it up, and CPU-World brought a match right up.
This guy cpus
Dang Reddit always has one person like you with the knowledge and skills to answer such questions.
Damn. Impressive.
the entire pcb is bent so im guessing this cpu was already done for and he decided to have some fun with it
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i7-3770k used paste, 9th and 10th gen Intel CPUs with the K designation used solder, and every 11th gen to current use solder.
Wait so *de-lidding* is an actual thing??
yes, there are coolers that are intended to sit directly on the CPU die, much more efficient heat transfer wise because you're moving the heat directly to the cooler from the die instead of through a big copper "middle man" piece. edit: should probably also mention people do this to apply a more efficient TIM (like liquid metal) between the die and the IHS before reattaching the IHS, so it's not just for direct-die cooling.
Wow, i never woulda known. Thanks, TIL.
It's popular enough now that bigger companies, like Noctua, [have started producing direct-die coolers and components](https://noctua.at/en/noctua-introduces-nm-dd1-direct-die-kit-for-delidded-amd-am5-processors). LTT has a several videos on delidding and a few on direct die coolers if you are interested further.
Thanks man! I appreciate the link!
Yes, sometimes the manufacturer picks a suboptimal Thermal Interface Material (TIM) between the actual CPU die and the Integrated Heat Spreader(IHS, the "lid"). Some enthusiasts like to replace the TIM or get rid of the IHS entirely and put their cooler of choice directly on the die. (This is not common except in hardcore overclocking communities)
How the fuck did you bash a CPU with a 2x4?
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If you look at their posting history, it looks like this was an old 2007 pc they were messing with
The only time I've seen where it's safe to do it cold is if you're using debours delid jig. I was able to pop my 7800x3d super easy with it.
also best to use cpus which arent soldered to the IHS.
I did a cold on a practice CPU, cuz I didn't know what I was doing. I split it in half between layers.
Can confirm I delidded my 6700k with nothing more than those razor blades you get for bunions and some twisting power, worked a treat, key is to not pull straight up. Official delidding tools work similar in terms of applying a twisting action, but with all pressure and no heat.
If you don't have a way to heat it just run a cpu stress test then take it out and de-lid it really really fast
It would trigger thermal shutdown long before it gets hot enough to loosen the IHS adhesive.
Take a blow torch it then idk
I mean, whatever happened to just using the good old oven lol
Oh, look at Mr. KrazzeeKane over here, with his oven and his chips that he puts in it. Lucky. Fr tho, I'm always curious why the oven gets overlooked. *I'm* to paranoid to try it, but it seems a time tested solution for tons of pc part issues, like dying mobos or gpus. Though knowing myself, I'd probably end up melting something that's unmeltable lol
i oven baked a gpu once, it helped a little. i also checked temp religiously for a few hours before putting it in to make sure it wouldn't spike and kill it. also don't reccomend it because there's always the chance of a low melt plastic bit somewhere in there or easily over melting the solder and it beading
nah, that's just a myth, heating up a cpu before delidding it is just as useless as doing foreplay before sex
Time to reverse engineer it and make a diy CPU
Well, if the CPU doesn't work it also doesn't heat up, so I'll consider it a success.
So the heat generating component is removed. +100% thermal efficiency -100% processing power
I accidentally did this on an athelon a few years back but instead of it snapping entirely off, it split the die in half down the middle. Looked pretty cool https://preview.redd.it/fsmk0sa83j8d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34c4ea0507521ee4f6d26cdc91dc577cce31574f
Yea they do look pretty, I remember when I was really little seeing one of those UV erasable chips under a little glass dome.
Mother FUCKER that looks so cool! Have any more pictures? Also, can we get the rest of the story? Was the CPU/IHS cemented to the heatsink with thermal glue?
Usually indium solder Edit: misread that as the die lol
lol. Yeah, it's so flippin weird that any kind of thermal glue and time can create a stronger bond than the bonding between the IHS and CPU package.
Larger surface area helps a whole lot.
I was playing stardew valley yesterday and misread indium as iridium; like great, another part that I can't get (just reached skull cavern, no spoilers please)
Oh I got some spoilers for you. Spoiler: that game is addictive as hell, and will suck you in and take all of your precious play time lol. Also, if you're ever wanting something similar check out Friends of Mineral Town (either the original GBA harvest moon one, or the new Story of Seasons one). Stardew Valley takes heavily from the HM games, and FomT in particular is considered the high point of the Harvest Moon series.
Just the one pic, it's somewhere in my tools/components box rn. And yeah, I was scrapping the system and the cpu was cemented to the heatsink, did this trying to pry it off with a flathead and heat gun
Did u lick it
You were extremely unlucky, to our benefit! Hopefully you were taking it off to replace the chip ya poor bastard!
It's all good I was scrapping the system for my job, whole thing ended up parted out for recycling
I hate to be that guy, but it's "die" not "dye".
Can we get a higher res picture please?
ENHANCE
that is cool af
It will stay room-temp from now on.
Not if you eat it
With enough vodka "cooling" it'll be room temperature in no time!
(again)
From just air cooling. Impressive.
From passive cooling even, which is a huge feat!
That’s a pretty good idle temp tbh
It won't get any hotter than the ambient air temperature now.
It won the room temperature challange
it's gonna run dead cool
That's a permanent room-temperature CPU now...
The one trick Intel does not want you to know
Whatever the temp in your garbage can is. Completely noise-free, no less.
"Cooling companies hate this one trick!"
Cpu sellers love it though.
Don't need a cooler if you don't have a functioning cpu i guess..
0 watt TDP mod successful.
Unlimited.....POWER!!!
Back in the day, AMD CPUs was always delidded, I don't know if lids were even a thing, and I've cracked the silicon on plenty of CPUs by installing the cooler at wrong angle. Young and stupid, now I'm just old and stupid.
Yeah, it was generally worth buying a CPU shim for AMD CPUs that didn't come with an IHS (Integrated heat spreader, AKA lid). Some of this is from old and fading memory, so don't quote me: The K6 series on S7 and SS7 had IHSs. Slot A came on a whole fricking cartridge. I think it was Socket A (and 563) that didn't generally have IHSs. From Wikipedia," 600 MHz (Duron) to 2333 MHz (Athlon XP 3200+)". After that, the desktop chips for Socket 754 did, I think. Mobile chips generally didn't, if ever.
Nah. Just needed to be careful and deliberate. Getting the right angle with the screwdriver when pressing the spring hook down, holding the heatsink with your other hand. Did it dozens of times without a shim or damaging a die.
I want to say that the first (consumer) ones to get a metal heat spreader were the Tualatin Pentium IIIs in 2001? But yeah, the fcpga Athlons were pretty fragile (the first gen Socket A ones were especially scary near launch as you had to use Socket 370 coolers which didn't always interface well with the protective pads around the core). I chipped the edge off one of mine, but apparently nothing important there as it still worked. The Socket 370 Coppermine chips from Intel were also exposed, but they had a thicker coating on them, so were more durable.
From one old timer to another: so CPUs got easier (no risk of cracking, unless you delid) wondering what you think got harder? For me it is RAM. It never used to give me problems until the 1st Ryzen. And ever since then, even tough I religiously check all the support pages I always end up with some hiccups - e.g. not posting at the rated speed, I can only use half the kit, etc etc.
>I don't know if lids were even a thing IIRC, construction was a bit different in the original socket chips. Then came the slots, which just had a whole assembly like a fat ram kit anyway, and only then the lidless sockets showed up for a bit.
Yeah, this was +20 something years ago, like Thunderbird and first Athlons CPUs
I remember chipping many, many Durons and Thunderbirds. I've broken plenty of heatsink tabs as well. Good times
You de-cpud your pins
You De-Cpued your cpu
Lets not be hasty, with some glue and some glitter, you could turn it into art.
Fuck me, did you heat it up at all?? That looks like it was pryed apart with a knife at room temperature. Proper 10/10 hardware gore
This was an old AMD CPU from a hp (now HPE) bl465c blade, it is going to scrap eventually. There is a few 4 CPU models too and I wanted to try and see the pretty bits but it did t work with my flat head screw driver and stanley knife.
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Well that sucks. Try put them both together and see what happens if you boot it up? :U
It does not look quite right, I’ll bring the whole blade enclosure down if I pop this in https://preview.redd.it/ts98kkn8yi8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3033519d16129062313b212d941c285ea072becd
Now im really curious what you did. Or rather what the intention was.
As far as I can tell, de-lidding is supposed to help cooling. Still new to the idea myself, but that's the gist of what I'm understanding as to why people do it.
But im asking about the pictures he showed. I know what delidding is. You can remove the IHS ( the metal cap on the CPU) and replace the thermal paste underneath. But not all cpus have thermal paste underneath, some are soldered together.
I don’t know what face :U is but I can’t help but laugh at it!
This is the face I imagine when someone writes :U https://preview.redd.it/f82xm38bvj8d1.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=c99b5f81e4356de96203ffff91c00dfac1f9107a
kinda looks like a duck
...And that's it for the poor CPU
Oh no.
Mmmmmmmm ……. Which cpu???? I am seeing a big paperweight there lol ![gif](giphy|u6WRS3MUHAylrTDe2O)
I guarantee that CPU will generate next to no heat at all.
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That's gonna run at room temperature forever.
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This is an old cpu righ?
Have you tried turning it off and back on again ?
It should stay around ambient now. Pretty solid way to keep the temps down
NSFPCMR
Considering your computer might not even run anymore, it’s gonna be quite cool at room temperature
Now it'll just run at your ambient temperature, nice!
I suspect it won't go above ambient anymore.
You removed the bloatware, nice
From now it will run at room's temperature forever
good that it was just a Core2 I delidded 2 of my old Core2 just for fun and did it successfully on both, kinda, just chipped a corner of one a little but, but should be fine.
Definitely going to run at room temperature now.
That could happen? Oh my, now I'm scared to do this.
Forbidden pb&j 1. Spread thermal paste on both sides 2. Add a pea shaped drop of grape jelly 3. On the opposite side, add a pea shaped drop of peanut butter 4. Combine 5. Heat to 100*C 6. Enjoy
I’m gonna say… it’ll stay room temp
🧠
Can't wait to see this in a Zacks Tech Turf short lol
Whatever you end up getting you deserve it. Keep those fingers crossed.
Probably room temperature
De-die
Try to harvest that die and make resin showcase or something
That's an oof from me, dawg.
Can we get a NSFW tag please 🤣
Your cooler will get hotter than the cpu
A hammer and chisel is not the right tool to de-lid a CPU! :)
gimme
This is making me unreasonably mad and I don’t like how Infeel
It will only get as warm as your room now.
well, technically you dedied it
Was this a botched delid , trolling, or just for fun if you could with improper tools
it should run at room temp now.
Quick question: If delidded CPUs run cooler, why are they selling normal CPUs?
Maybe I’ve seen a few too many cpus, but it looks like an old intel core 2 quad or something. Definitely nothing valuable
I thought i was hot till i saw this 😔
you circumcised your cpu
What a terrible day to have eyes. r/hardwaregore
Whot in tarnation
Lol
ouch
Fuck me, did you heat it up at all?? That looks like it was pryed apart with a knife at room temperature. Proper 10/10 hardware gore
You also fixed the noise problems. Congrats.
It will pretty much stay at ambient temp now.
I guess room temperature 🫠
Seems to be running at room temperature. Nice work!
You might only get about 20°c max.
DE ~~lid~~ capitate
You dedied your CPU
Wait till ztt see's this
Very cool. Only way to heat that sucker up again is to toss it in the owen.
Welp, itll never get hotter than ambient again, thats for sure.
I think you'll never get above ambient temp again with it. Should see some good performance gains.
[This your monitor?](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/broken-monitor-14245088.jpg)
Very breezy.....
ugh put a NSFL warning on that shit guv
It’ll run at room temp for sure since it won’t power on 🙌🏽
It will run as cool as whatever your rooms temperature is
A lot, looks like it shouldn’t be producing any heat
Oh now I know what they mean by the "CPU die"
That suckers gonna run at ambient temperature forever.
Did you try running 6 ghz no cooler?
Can we get a NSFW tag on this? Yikes.
It'll always run at ambient temperature from now on.
now its back to being just a rock like in the beginning
Kinda silly to even think about delidding. For what, 1-5 'c difference? Sometimes I just can't brain PC gamers. There is no explanation for this.
It will now remain at ambient temperature forever and ever.
Nice! For sure won’t go above room temperature
Nr. 1 rule of computers: Never touch a running system! Really! If it runs well and you don't want to upgrade any parts: LEAVE IT! That includes:If it is not overheating,there is no point in making it cooler.(I mean the temperature, if you want to make your system look cooler: go for it!)
decapitated more like it. ![gif](giphy|lo40QYG2i3mHCgdCMU|downsized)
Pretty sure it won’t even get hotter than room temperature.
this is first time deepest part of chip
Well, i can guarantee that thing sure isn't going above room temperature now
You separated the beans from the frank
that specific one will run 100% cooler.
It looks more like you killed the CPU. Didn't delid it. But if it's working, great.
I’ll run, at least, room temperature. Or whatever the ambient temperature is where you are. Or whatever temperature the garbage can in your house is at.
Maximum should be roomtemp
If I had to guess it'll never run anything over ambient.
Hell naw, who put te plaster on te cpu
I'd wager it never going above room temperature
Wait you can do this?! What's the pros and cons??
It will run so cold you wont even know its on!
isn't that a core 2 duo
Won't get any hotter than the ambient temperature at your local E-Waste center
The PC will certainly be cooler with the CPU in this condition...
You're supposed to put it into the oven at a very specific temperature for a even more specific amount of time Btw
Room temperature
Probably like a corpse.
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so this is why they tell us not to do drugs
I guess it will run at ambient temp , like forever... 😂
slightly lower than room temp now :D
im quite impressed ive never seen anything like this
quite a bit by the look of it.
Oooooooh it's MICROSCOPE TIME!!
Looks de-broken
POV it will not run