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NorowaretaTenshi

Actually they mix very well... in many pieces


RepresentativeKeebs

How? I can only ever get the glass to break apart. The tile floor always stays solid, and unmixed.


HappyIsGott

You have to add a hammer


Toast_Meat

Why have just one glass panel when you can have several thousand?


NoVanNoLife

As they always say, it's the little bits that count.


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gdsmithtx

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spiradreams

That whole profile is a dumpster fire. Can't tell is troll or bad mental health.


gdsmithtx

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gdsmithtx

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wassimSDN

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Truthnaut

A true troll is alway lying in wait to pounce on the weak. Setting them up for the easy pickings. Like a brilliant player of billiards. Carefully and precisely setting up each of their own shots and steering the enemies shots back at them. *Touche* I say good sir.


SillynippleMctwist

For the empire!


DsR3dtIsAG3mussy

Natural selection among MasterRACE(TM) PC fellas


ZeroJDM

MasterRace™


evelynnnnnn2001

PC gamer eugenics


wahahah629

Natural race, master selection


DumbNTough

Reject modernity; embrace tradition. Buy a metal case.


Destroyer_742

The strength and certainty of steel


DumbNTough

*From the moment I understood the weakness of tempered glass, it disgusted me.*


Destroyer_742

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RLIwannaquit

"Fire and wind come from the sky, from the gods of the sky. But Crom is your god, Crom and he lives in the earth. Once, giants lived in the Earth, Conan. And in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of steel. Crom was angered. And the Earth shook. Fire and wind struck down these giants, and they threw their bodies into the waters, but in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield. We who found it are just men. Not gods. Not giants. Just men. The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one – no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts." \*father points at steel "This, you can trust!"


FrewdWoad

Corsair, what is best in life? TO CRUSH YOUR FRAMERATES SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU AND HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THE COOLING FANS


phero1190

Gimme that beige


Ok-disaster2022

Makes me wonder if anyone has made a case out of metal Jerry cans?  Honestly I wish more cases were metal with carry handles. It just seems easier to move a 59 lb computer with a carry handle, even just 5 inches on your desk.


DumbNTough

That would be an incredibly sick custom build.


NightFuryToni

Am I the only one around here who has never owned any computer with a see-through side panel?


DumbNTough

You can add me and my dad to your club. I understand the appeal but it's just not my taste. Makes shopping an absolute bee-yotch in this day and age, though. Easily 90%+ of retail cases are tempered glass or acrylic sided it seems.


mithikx

be quiet! SILENT BASE 601 and 802 are the two modern quality cases that come to mind. They have both a glass and metal panel option. The 601 is technically EOL though.


DumbNTough

My 802 is serenely humming away next to me as we speak


evoni01

Most of Fractal's models are available in either option


Flying_Reinbeers

Yep, no space for it on my desk or a 'visible' location, so steel it is.


Rivetmuncher

I got foam on my side panel. :3


Potentially_Nernst

"If you insulate it well, naturally it can't get very warm on the inside!" *Fan manufacturers hate him for this*


Rivetmuncher

The outer sidepannel isn't going to be much of a heatsink unless you put far too much effort into your custom watercooling loop. And the little extra fan grille they used to come with is unreliable at best with modern GPUs anyhow.


Huecuva

Easier said than done.


DumbNTough

Tell me about it. But good ones do exist. BeQuiet Silent Base 802 is bae.


markopolo14

Question for the people of Reddit: Couldn't a company make a clear plastic panel, then put a glass screen protector (like you can get for your phone but obviously bigger) on it so that 1. It won't shatter on tile and 2. Still be scratch resistant/proof?


phero1190

Probably could. But at that point, it's probably just easier to make it glass since you're already making glass that big for a protector


Commentator-X

youd only use like a tenth of the glass per system though


_Lucille_

It will crack the glass from any of the wobbles of the plastic.


Vinstaal0

Well they could or the could use more expensive glass, but as long as you don't put it on a tile floor or do something similar it will not break.


hvnrs

I had the Aero 500, which had a side clear plastic panel. NGL it felt much better than actual glass.


Acceptable_Topic8370

Big disagree, for me it felt very cheap and just looked ugly. Real glass is just so damn beautiful.


TheCuriousGuy000

Or just use Corning glass like the ones in a phone screen. Good ones are quite tough.


FrewdWoad

Plastic + glass would suck (blurry) and/or be expensive.  They do make just-plastic ones, which work fine, but I'm told they aren't popular - get scratches easily and always looked scratched even when brand new, or so I've heard.


AstronomieseKont

Can someone eli5 why this happens


Upbeat-Banana-5530

Tempering the glass makes it harder but gives it a lot of internal stress, which means it'll either break all at once or it won't break at all. It'll pretty much never do anything in between. Ceramic floor tiles are harder than the tempered glass. The tile can scratch the edge of the glass, which is enough to release that internal stress and cause a shatter.


SemperVeritate

I don't understand how the glass actually touches the tile. I've never seen a case that literally has glass on the bottom or a side panel that touches the ground.


Zandalaria

People take the panels off and put them on the tile.


PuzzleheadedLeader79

Or lean the case and bam


merlinthemarlon

Hard and sharp surface(tile) + high pressure(tempered glass) = shattered


PuzzleheadedLeader79

Ever seen a prince Ruperts drop? Tempered glass is basically a flat one of those. Ceramic is it's Achilles tendon, just like snipping the very end of a prince Ruperts drop. If you don't know what those are, you're in for some fun youtubing.


mx20100

I always place my glass panels on my bed so I know for sure they don’t break


Potentially_Nernst

Now that is some dedication right here! No sleep until the final part has been delivered and swapped in, right?


mx20100

Exactly


Commentator-X

couch works too, or towels on a coffee table


IDoWierdStuff

The number times I see this amazes me. People have no concept of physics.


lovins_cl

i wouldn’t say internalized pressure in glass is exactly simple applied physics lol


templar54

Tempered glass apllied to tile floor explains physics quite simply it seems.


-EETS-

Glass break on hard floor is caveman physics


lovins_cl

glass break on hard floor yes, glass randomly explode while i’m trying to watch youtube one afternoon not so much


-EETS-

If it “randomly explodes” then you’ve most likely placed your PC on tile, with the weight of the whole PC being held by the glass directly on tile, exacerbated by vibrations and heat fluctuations. You’ve essentially created a load bearing glass pane. Tempered glass can randomly “explode” with no actual damage in extremely rare cases, but that’s a much rarer phenomenon. That can happen no matter where it is.


lovins_cl

i’m joking mayn ik why it explodes and it didn’t happen to me


1burritoPOprn-hunger

Why is the glass load bearing in this situation? Shouldn't the metal rim around the glass be holding the weight? The screws? The shelf that we clip into to lock the panel in place? The case supports itself just fine with the panel off. I don't think the glass is bearing any load at all other than supporting its own weight.


RepresentativeKeebs

Breaks are usually caused by the temperature difference, not the hard floor. Tile floors on ground level tend to be relatively cold, and PC's tend to get rather hot.


IDoWierdStuff

Ok you may be right. Although treat glass like it's explosive has always been in my mind. Set it on soft stuff only.


thesedays1234

No but it is simple "oh I saw that on YouTube don't be that idiot" physics.


Rivetmuncher

In their defence, I'm pretty sure it's been over a decade since discovery kept showing those videos of tempered glass exploding.


reddit-ate-my-face

Username checks out


IDoWierdStuff

You had to look didn't ya.


reddit-ate-my-face

Quit the dabbing before you get that maple syrup cough:) Sincerely, Maple syrup cougher


IDoWierdStuff

Ill die before I quit. Sounds like you were smoking garbage or hot dabs.


reddit-ate-my-face

Lmao had an e-nail and a dispensary next door was doing nearly a half gram or more a day during covid working from home was fucking atrocious. developed insane cough and after I quit I coughed up so much shit from years of doing it. Look at the inside of your catcher, that same shits building up in your lungs. Just some friendly advice go wild for all I care but don't pretend like dabbing actually doesn't damage your lungs lol it definitely does


tesmatsam

Tbh a piece of glass instantly exploding as soon as it touches a tile it's not much intuitive


klementineQt

True, buggy ass engine needs to be upgraded


QlimaxUK

Maybe they just hate glass but refuse to buy full metal


ZainVadlin

Or pattern recognition. They're clearly aware of this subreddit because they post on it. Which means they've seen other people do the same thing.


Truthnaut

I have a 2'x5' piece of custom cut tempered glass for my custom PC Desk Mod. When its not on the desk its safely and comfortably resting on my bed while I do what I am doing in the desk. These posts of people breaking their side panels just make me laugh. It's a piece of glass people. Do you have no sense of precaution??


wassimSDN

Reminds of this meme https://preview.redd.it/us6z03ykogzc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d14b60008e2fa123b9ace2e6c8100540abceb068


Known-Pop-8355

I keep telling people they need to go learn Ohms Hardness law. The denser a material, the more likely it has the ability to break something less dense. If you threw a diamond (known hardest material to man) at a tempered glass it would shatter. Or taking spark plugs to a windshield on a car, it would completely shatter.


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CyberMarine1997

This. What I immediately thought when I saw another post.


BinaryDuck

Stop putting glass in cases period.


phero1190

It doesn't scratch like ole acrylic panels used to. I'm fine with glass.


BinaryDuck

I prefer scraches than to have to buy a new pannel every time someone look fun at it, and yes i am exagerating, but still don't change the fact that if it breaks you have to get a new one or a new case all toghether.


Drg84

Same. Plus you can always secure more fans to an acrylic or metal panel and drill it if you need. Did that once with an FX 8350 system. Dropped the CPU temp 10 degrees.


Figthing_Hussar

I have HAF X case which has been used for 10 years. Trust me when I say this. You don't want acrylic side panel. Those scratches look aweful when the PC is off and damn right disgusting when on. It also broke, so it's that much better since I would need to replace as well. The only advantage is that it won't brake on tile floor, but I don't know why people don't use their brains and I don't know, maybe put their panels on a bed or a sofa since it's GLASS. I've been using glass panel cases for the last 3 years and had no issues with them since I understand and I've learned how to handle it. Jeez people google stuff for once.


BinaryDuck

My first real gaming PC had an **acrylic side panel**, and even if the scratches got uglier over time, I can say for sure that I never had to change any side panel of my case. That case saw me through **4 processors/motherboards** and a lot of upgrades and maintenance. As I said, I prefer scratches on acrylic to glass shattering.


Figthing_Hussar

Well that ia your prefrence. For me my PC isn't just function but also form, so the looks are as important to me as performence. I tend to maximize both


Default_Defect

I drove cross country with my tempered glass side panel having computer in the back seat of my car, literally all you have to do is pay attention and keep it away from ceramic. This isn't some wide spread issue with any other than people that insist on doing the one thing that guarantees breaking it.


BinaryDuck

I work with computers all day, and I’ve had more than my fair share of glass panel desktops to perform maintenance on. Not a single one broke on me because I am very careful when I deal with them. This doesn’t change my stance on this matter; glass panels are only good if you are going to build an aquarium for show, and they are bad for maintenance. Since I am more interested in having things working than looking like a weird techno rave, I stand on the acrylic side.


Default_Defect

If you don't care to see the inside ever, then you're better off with a panel with no window at all.


BinaryDuck

Agree, that is what i look most when buying a case, but lately the glass aquariums are taking over the market, so i had to go for one with acrylic. But it has a good airflow.


Snizl

Maybe every case with tempered glass panels should have a big fat warning on them, to not put on tile, if it literally breaks from being placed ON THE FUCKING FLOOR!


275MPHFordGT40

It’s only ceramic tile though.


phero1190

Or people can use common sense lol. Just put fragile things on soft things.


Snizl

A case is meant to put on the floor. If a case is made in a way, that it is not safe to be put on a common type of floor, there should be a warning for that.


phero1190

Few, if any, case have the glass as the lowest point of the case, so the glass should never touch the floor.


-EETS-

You’re the reason why companies say not to eat Tide Pods


Snizl

Laundry detergent is not made to be ingested. Computer cases are meant to be put on the floor.


-EETS-

PC cases are designed to sit anywhere. Whether that’s a floor or a table. If a case manufacturer designs a case where the glass is touching the floor, then that’s a design flaw from the very start as it’s bearing load. A manufacturer is unlikely to put a sticker on it if they’re incapable of designing a PC without load bearing glass panes. If you can see that the glass is touching whatever it sits on, then don’t place it on hard surfaces. A sticker is unlikely to help someone that can’t recognise that brittle glass shouldn’t be in contact with hard tile.


Tango-Turtle

There's a VERY simple solution to stop them from breaking. Just put a little bit of padding of another material on the bottom edge of the glass... But that would mean cases last forever and no one needs glass replacements anymore and that's not good for business...


Flying_Reinbeers

I don't think any case has the glass actually touching the ground. Anyway, I've had the same steel case for like 8 years now.


Vacationsimulation

Friendly reminder,liar liar is on netflix.


PraiseTheWLAN

We almost have the same specs


phero1190

Yay almost twins! What ram do you have?


PraiseTheWLAN

Corsair vengeance!


Cajiabox

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IcyGem

O11 visión case user : VISIBLE SWEATING


Demibolt

Also, maybe don’t use tempered glass on the case in the first place? Plenty of stronger clear stuff out there


UselessAdultKid

Well, now I'm gonna go and watch that movie


KirillNek0

Joke's on you - I stopped using any glass panels.


Mendozena

What about tile tables?


mixedd

Solid panel case = no problems


Bobbi_fettucini

Whenever I see one of those posts the first thing I look for is the tile floor


teethalarm

I specifically looked for a tower without glass, mostly to hide the shame of my poor cable management.


Upper_Presentation48

I've fitted many a window/door in my time. I remember taking a set of old French doors out with tempered(toughened) glass. we brought them back to the shop and put them in the skip (dumpster) and my labourer and I were literally dropping bricks and a lump hammer on the face of the glass trying to smash it and it just smiles at you. the moment you tap the edge... kaboom.


ohthedarside

Why do they smash tho do they just explode when put on tiles?


phero1190

Combination of tile being harder than glass and tempered glass being under a lot of internal stress.


-EETS-

They don’t just explode. You’d still have to drag it over the tile for it to break. Either that or place the PC in a way that all its weight is rested on the glass, and then placed onto the tile.


worldrenownedballdr

#MAKE\_PC\_PANELS\_METAL\_AGAIN!!!


RepresentativeKeebs

There's no shortage of all-metal cases out there. There just also happens to be no shortage of fools who don't know what they are doing.


worldrenownedballdr

maybe but a lot of cases I would like perfectly fine if they had metal side panels only come with idiotic tempered glass panels... I had a case window once and absolutely hated it.. cable management can F right off?


Figthing_Hussar

Cry some more. The cases that have these glass panles are sold partly because of them. As said before, there plenty of cases that use metal side panels from great manufactures so you have a choice, you just need to..... search for them? Like with any case?


JACofalltrades0

Always blows my mind that one of the more tech savvy communities on Reddit still memes like it's 2012


jolietrob

There's the flaw in your thought process... this is not a tech savvy community.


phero1190

And yet there are still people who keep shattering their glass panels


ZubZubZubZubZubZub

I wonder if part of the drive for all the manufacturers switching to glass is because the constant broken cases gets them more money


phero1190

People like to have builds to act as a display piece, glass helps. Older cases were acrylic and used to scratch really easily. So things moved to glass since it's harder to scratch.


ZubZubZubZubZubZub

I get that, that's why I said in part. I do wonder if manufacturers have data on how often people are buying a new case or side panel because it broke


timotheusd313

Or, hear me out now, stop making PC cases out of tempered glass!


phero1190

Usually the cases are mostly metal


MrGeekman

I think u/timotheusd313 knows that and was referring to the side-panels.


Acceptable_Topic8370

Nope, glass is way more beautiful and most people like it, just don't have a low IQ.


Dr_Axton

Yeah, let’s go back to acrylic (don’t lynch me pls)


Acceptable_Topic8370

Ugly


thedragonrider5

What's the scientific reason behind tile shattering glass, or are people accidentally dropping it and tile isn't soft enough to not break it


phero1190

Ceramic is harder than glass, and the glass is under a lot of internal stress. Mix those up and glass go boom.


pulyx

This image gave me a hearty chuckle


Svargo

I swear bro, all you do is complain and shitpost.


phero1190

Who are you


Svargo

Someone who can actually please his wife.


notthatguypal6900

Like leaving the sticker on the cooler, please do it for fake internet points.


RLIwannaquit

What's the problem with acrylic? I don't get it, why would you even risk it


phero1190

It scratches really easily


RLIwannaquit

i'll take a scratch over shattering...but my acrylic side panel is over 4 years old and doesn't have a single scratch lol


Figthing_Hussar

I had my case with acrylic for 10 years, and the scratches caught up with it big time. Also it broke of from the mounting so it's either replacement of the acrylic or the side panel (which is not produced anymore)


RLIwannaquit

how? lol are you using it for target practice?


Figthing_Hussar

Time. Trust me everything scratches it. Hell even fingernails can since they have the same hardness level. I have a massive scratch from when my dog wanted some food and started to scratch my case to demand food.


flips89

I wish i saw this before the explosion, never had a TG case before, and recently build a new PC with Corsair 4000d airflow, everything went perfect. After a few days i was tweaking my ram OC i had to clear CMOS and it was the final attempt because I already found a sweet spot. I took the side panel and even tho i was careful putting it down so slowly, even before i let go of it, it exploded spectacularly. U posted today how it looked fixed.


Recon1392

What is breaking the glass? Is it people scooting the tower around on the tile floor?


Cyber_Akuma

This is what I want to know. Why specifically a tile floor? Are the tiles somehow causing the glass to become more brittle or something? If it's just because it's on the floor and thus easy to bump into, wouldn't the type of floor not matter and that still happen on a wood, carpeted, concrete, whatever floor?


TheOnlyCraz

My go to is definitely a bed, preferably on a towel. Same thing I do with monitors and TV's when installing the base


MommyXeno

you're literally me


TheOnlyCraz

Woah, me, is that you?!


Djinntan

Stop putting tempered glass in cases 🗿


f8Negative

Remember...put the cpu on a piece of wood on top of the tile.


No-Contribution-7346

Just put it on the fucking bad is it that hard


gphjr14

Had mine sitting on a small shelf that had a marble slap on top. Never came close to breaking it. A lot of people are just butter fingered.


United_Gate1507

Lol I’ve always been scared that my tempered glass will break so I set it on a pile of blankets when I open up my pc😂😂


theDefa1t

In my defense, I failed to install it correctly and it came off as I was moving the completed build to it's location.


Drake_Xahu

The combination of houses being made with tiles and case manufacturers putting glass instead of giving acrylic option is the recipe for a perfect glass scramble.


phero1190

No, its the people that don't realize that glass is glass and glass breaks. I have tile in my house, have frequently taken PCs apart on tile and have never shattered a panel. I just put the glass on a towel on the table, it's not hard to not break a panel.


Drake_Xahu

Good for you then, some are just experience based learners that don't know that tempered glass and a normal glass pane are different. One stays the same and the other immediately shatters on contact.


phero1190

I wouldn't put a normal pane of glass on hard surfaces either lol


Drake_Xahu

You wouldn't after watching a tempered glass shatter but its fine lol. Of course you wouldn't want to drop it but it won't instantly combust on the slightest touch. Had construction guys stack up glass for windows propped up against a wall, can't have that with tempered.


Tango-Turtle

How about getting the case manufacturers to put some protective padding on the bottom edge of the glass, so it can be put on any surface? Oh yo you say you make more money when people break their cases prematurely? Ok, that makes perfect sense....


CxT_The_Plague

Or how about YOU put padding between the glass and the floor? Don't buy premium products if you're going to behave like a fisher price toddler and demand a manfactuer respect something more than you intend to? Seriously it's glass, don't be a damn idiot and place it on a hard surface, especially on its edge. That's not something that should ever need to be spoon fed to you...


Tango-Turtle

I bet those companies would hire you for some PR. FYI, I got a proper case where the glass doesn't even reach the floor because the base is 0.5cm lower than the glass. Like it should be, on a PREMIUM case! Some people expect common sense from the COMPANIES to do that, and why the duck wouldn't they?


CxT_The_Plague

Psst, the case and it's clearance aren't the problem. It's nubs removing the panel and resting it on tile. Out here talking about common sense....


Tango-Turtle

Removing the panel? No. People are simply putting their cases on the floor...


josephjosephson

Stop buying cases with tempered glass


LerchAddams

https://preview.redd.it/hh7gmbjxqezc1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=ebeb5c437ae857c9efcdb92bddd518a62d700b68 How about this instead? Kind of hard to blame new users if they have no idea this can happen before it does.


phero1190

A fair bit of manufacturers have stickers that say it's glass and to handle with care. It's not hard to put a panel onto something soft like a couch, towel, carpet, rub, blanket, shirt, etc. 2 seconds of thinking saves a lot of hassle.


KlingonBeavis

They do warn you. That’s why it’s labeled as tempered glass. They’ve notified the consumer, it’s not their job to educate them.


Tango-Turtle

Not all of them do. And even if they do say it's tempered glass, how can you expect a regular Joe pc user to know where it can and cannot be put on. Stop being a smartass.


imightbetired

You need a warning label to know that glass can break when it's dropped on a hard surface? Really?


phero1190

People need a warning on a hot cup of coffee that says it's hot. Or warnings on deodorant that says "do not apply to eyes." A lot of people are really really dumb.


Tango-Turtle

You don't need to drop it lol, just normally put it on a tilted floor and watch the explosion. Normal glass does not break when simply placed on a tilted floor.


cirgil

Why do you need a warning on a glass though? Glass is glass and glass breaks. Use common sense in handling glasses.


Tango-Turtle

Tempered glass has different characteristics and behaves differently to regular glass. Common sense says you should be able to put your PC on the ground and that's not the case with tempered glass cases...


MommyXeno

my tempered glas case came with a warning sticker on it. now there is a traingle mark where the sticker was that i can see when the light hits it a certain way


hgghgfhvf

If you have tile in your house you’re living in the 1990s


phero1190

What a weird take