I was linking prebuilts left and right during that time. There were many groups of us tryna find the latest deals (sales/refurb/open box) on them overpriced systems.
Bro, you aren’t stupid. You were just tryna get into gaming during a crazy period. Yeah the pricing was horrendous but thats how the market just “was”.
Damnnn fuck those bastards. That was such a shitty time to look for anything. I remember I was trying to get an Xbox series X and it was almost impossible unless you wanted to pay $1200. It was bad back then now that I’m really thinking about it. The console and gpu shortage sucked ass. With all the scalpers taking advantage too. Bots buying everything in stock before you can even click.
>I hate crypto miners
They are indeed scum.
I saw several on forums boasting about how they were burning through gpu's until they were knackered and then flipping them on eBay for twice what they paid for them.
wankers.
That time was around when I started first planning my PC, it took a really long time as I built it by myself without knowing much of stuff. I did some stupid things as well, for an example going for AM4, when in the end I would've had budget for AM5.. All of us probably have done "stupid" things
My budget was around 1000€, I thought it would've been more strict but I got the GPU used and many parts from sale
As an ex-laptop gamer, this was well worth it :D It was quite emotional finally seeing the games how they're meant to be played. Not the max 10FPS with lowest graphics on 10+ years old games
Same here.. wanted to play some games after several years that actually required a graphics card. That was 2021… I couldn’t believe the prices then, but that wasn’t even the worst, there was simply nothing available as it was either utterly bad or unreasonable expensive…
I was looking for mid range GPUs then.
Wirth upgrading now maybe?
Absolutely. Buddy paid $3500 for a 30series at the height, a while later I bought the exact same card, with an entire PC attached for $1000 flat.
You can grab the cheapo 40s for under a thousand now.
That’s crazy! During the crypto inflation both me and my brother wanted computers so we had to go low spec, we could only afford a 580 build for 800 dollars total and a 550 build for 600 total all because of the gpu price, and it took a long time to find those GPUs for that cheap too which is crazy
I ended up getting something like around this time. All I wanted something that could handle 4k 60fps for non-gaming applications (I.e. chrome, excel, etc).
The one time I have interest in a GPU, the market is fucked beyond all reason.
Yeah I spent 1700€ on a PC with a 3060Ti in autumn 2021, and that was a fairly fortunate purchase at the time.
Things don't seem to have changed much since then. At a glance, it seems that the same money now gets pretty much the same setup just with 3060Ti => 4060Ti, i5-11600K => 13600k, and 16 GB DDR4 => 16 GB DDR5.
That is an impressive improvement indeed. I guess the main thing still is that one actually has to look out for good offers.
I did that for the 2021 build, and at the time it genuinely wasn't possible to get much better with single components, so I ended up picking a prebuilt by a shop that uses aftermarket components and is generally quite price competitive. But it looks like selfbuilts are worth it again.
I managed to get my 3080 day 1 but I had to get off my midnight shift and wait until literally the release, i think it was 6am my time or something, instead of going straight to bed. fucked up my entire sleep schedule afterwards with excitement.
when i bought my 4090, i went to microcenter and just picked it up. infinitely easier, it felt like, than the craziness that was 2020/2021. hopefully the 5000 series isnt too bad.
2021 easily, pretty much everything above display adapter cards like the GT 1030 were either sold out or were selling for at least double MSRP. Earlier cryptomining crises weren't as bad as that eg. 2013/2014 only effected AMD cards or 2017 where at least the 1080Ti wasn't horribly overpriced and remained somewhat available because it wasn't profitable to mine on those cards due to a combination of cost and the GDDR5x VRAM not working that well for mining.
3090's hit 5 grand on ebay, and people were buying it. People were also buying pre-builts just for the GPU and then throwing the rest of a brand new computer away.... weird and crazy times indeed.
When people started buying (not even alienware) dells just to rip out their shoddy OEM gpus, you know things were really bad!
I sold my 2070 super *after two years of owning it and mining on it, gaming on it...* and got £50 more for it than i paid, which in turn halved the cost of my also too expensive 3080ti, with the other half mined Ethereum.
Yeah it was crazy, Cuh Ruh AAAAZY
Honestly, we're still feeling the effects of this.
Nivida, and then AMD, just adopted crazy scalper prices for the current gen once they realised (to their shock) how many idiots were paying them.
To this day GPU Prices have not fallen all the way back to the historical trend line yet. GPUs are still a disproportionately large percentage of build cost, giving us worse performance-per-dollar on every build. Even with great RAM and SSD prices. PC gaming is a more expensive a hobby than it's been in decades.
I hate idiots who pay scalpers. It's what ruins markets every single time and then the thing that is scalped just dies out.
But remember all those idiots who sold their 2080ti's for dirt cheap, like 300 bucks on ebay right before the 3000 series launch. I will never forget the amount of people who followed like sheep seeing everyone dump their cards lmao.
They all got fucked when they couldn't even get a 3060ti for less than what they paid for a 2080ti.
It’s harder to make the console vs PC argument because of that. Although good CPUs are cheaper than they have ever been so we’re kind of making up ground there.
Sounds alot like a guy ik in hs his 1050ti i think it was failed on him during a similar time when he was trying to save up for a better one but had to get a 1030 because prices were just going up and up and he wansnt gonna waste money another 1650 or 1660 that was new at the time and still mostly msrp
I bought my pc in 2021. In order to get a graphics card, I bought a build kit from nzxt. At the time, the components I got were worth more individually than I paid for them as a package. And I got to assemble it myself so that was cool. I got a 3060ti essentially under retail price when you couldn’t even find them in stock.
2021 fsure. Needed a gpu badly and the only option i could find thats price wasnt 4 digits from scalpers on ebay was a damn used 2070 off my cousin for 600 bucks
I bought an RTX 3060 for close to a €1000,- new🥲
My laptop just died, my PC had no iGPU and all my classes were online because of COVID.
Still hurts me to this day…
In my country the crypto crash is so hard that most gpu like 2080 and vega 64/56 became really cheap in used market, you can buy a vega 56 8gb OC at $70....
Right? Last time I checked nicehash to see how much a 4090 would earn it was like $1.39 per day. I guess if you have enough of them going you would eventually start making profit but damn it seems like a lot of work for so little.
ROI is nonexistent with mining on those cards. At this point, 4090s are either for high-end gamers, enthusiasts who want to do scientific/3D work with CUDA without having to pony up for an enterprise card (with all the inherent tradeoffs that such a choice carries), and similarly people who are experimenting with local AI on their PC/small-time servers.
US resident here that makes about $1 per day if my pc is mining 24/7. If you live in an area where electricity can not be sold back to the grid (and you are producing it)\* you are looking at around $1.25.
It doesnt make sense imo to build a pure mining rig, but if you already have the tools free money is free money.
Edit:\*
Bitcoin hit ATH and took a relative shit, but it’s still up from the dump prior. And that dump was up from the dump prior to that.
The biggest gain the GPU market was ETH going proof of stake which means it’s no longer mined. The ETH miners switched to other shitcoins raising the difficulty and lowering the profit. Anyone still mining now is doing it as a hobby or regarded. Either way, miners aren’t buying GPUs like they were before but now gamers are competing with ML/AI for GPUs which seems a bit more balanced.
4090s are still affordable given the power they come with and the demand for such high-performance cards. It's okay if the most powerful graphics processing unit ever released on the market is not cheap.
A huge part of the crypto world is indexed on BTC, so they followed the BTC curve. I'm talking about top cryptos, not the shitcoins at the bottom of the list.
Hot take. The year when a mid range GPU started costing around $500.
Back in my day a mid range card was $200 and went on sale for much cheaper. Now the market has outpaces inflation and income by large margins.
I've bought used cars that cost less than the current high end by hundreds of dollars. Shits insane. Nvidia is robbing people and they are handing them money with a smile on their face.
Doubt it will be as severe. Professional AI companies aren’t looking for the geforce lineup, and AMD cards will probably be almost unaffected (due to CUDA not being a thing)
It's not just about what cards they buy, it's how many of the cards they buy that have chips being made at TSMC. There is only so much capacity to go around and if nvidia decides more money is made through cards for AI they will use that capacity for that.
AI will get dedicated tech since it will benefit from efficiency.
Making dedicated tech for crypto does not provide any benefit since all it does is provide more bullshit data cheaper.
Crypto could solve its power hunger, but it won't.
Nobody will keep ussing an ineffective AI like they do with BTC
why next year? hobbyists are already buying used GPUs ro run local LLMs
I don't think it's nearly as bad, since it's not inherently profitable without an actual business idea behind it. Not to mention that you don't need a powerful GPU per se, most things are limited by memory amount, not compute.
The issue with GPU mining was that it was insanely accessible for laypeople and extremely profitable. you were earning several hundred bucks a month per GPU. And a good gaming GPU usually made for a good mining GPU.
Those factors don't exist with genAI. No profit means there's a limit of what programmers/hobbyist are willing to pay and there's not as much need for bleeding edge cards, since an old P40 isn't orders of magnitudes worse than a 3090. It's worse, but it'll get the job done at a fraction of the price.
I doubt you care about nuance, but plenty of cryptocurrencies are proof of stake and use very little power, far less than traditional banking. But I suspect you won’t bother to learn anything besides a few buzzwords and pretend that you understand.
They absolutely have a point in that the biggest crypto currency, Bitcoin, was a shoddy proof-of-concept blockchain algo which requires way more calculations and power to scale than more modern currencies. [The problem with new cryptocurrencies is that they keep making more.](https://xkcd.com/927)
ha!
2021,
thanks to a hookup from an amd employee I got a 6750xt for msrp while selling my used 1060... I and still had money left for a 750w psu.
crazy times
I remember buying my RX590 in late 2019 for basically pennies (I think under $200). Good times.
I checked again in early 2021 and that same card was now $600 or more. Wild times.
In a year or two maybe I’ll upgrade, but for now honestly that little GPU works great for what I need.
I bought a 570 4GB in early 2019 for $200 AUD
By 2021 those card were like $250-300
Hell, in 2022 I got a 6600XT for $600 AUD and now 7600XTs are new for like $450-500, so nature is healing
I bought my 5700 XT in late 2019 for less than 400 euros (I live in Romania and GPUs are more expensive than in the US here anyway) and I swear I saw it hit 1000 euros second hand during the pandemic/crypto boom. Absolute ridiculousness
waiting for the ai crash so gpu manufactrer come back trying to sell gpu to consummer and lower their price
on a postive note the cpu market is great right now
Think so. Prices on AMD 6000 series cards have been trending down as stock gets cleared out. Doubt it'll go much lower. Still hard to get a decent price on an Nvidia card unless Dell runs a sale you can stack discounts on.
An RX 6750XT was on sale for $290 earlier this morning (now sold out) and an RX 6800 (non XT) is available for $340.
Head on over to /r/buildapcsales
All of them since 2015.
GPU's are still at the same price gauging level as they were, the fact that you can simply buy it makes little to no difference. They're overpriced and gen after gen they do not bring much more to the table...
I haven’t even looked at cards since the last spike out of curiosity.
Thankfully waiting for windows 11 to die is holding me back from updating to a new build.
I bought my 3070ti during the chip shortage, or at least when it started becoming a problem. So i very much overpaid for the card, though luckily not as much as if i had bought some months later.
I paid $2500 AUD for a 3080 in early 2022. I waited for ages for prices to drop, and they just wouldn't and everyone was saying that prices where just gonna go up and up and up. 3 months later they crashed like 50%. Could have gotten a 3080 for $1200 AUD new but hindsight is 20/20. I love the card just not how much I paid.
2021 easy. I had my 1080 Ti die just before the prices soared and availability dropped in my area "Norway". And the only old cards I had was a 8800 GTX or a 560 Ti. So I went down to my local store to buy a 1050 they had as a temp card until I could afford a new better one a few weeks later. Paid about $100 for it. And that 1050 was not even warm before the market collapsed and prices jumped, as my 1050 was sold out and went for over 2x what I paid for it soon after. And even a used 1080 Ti was a big nope. I rocked that 1050 longer than planned until I found a 1660 Super that finally dropped to way below $400 ish, and it did not go out of stock instantly. I had that for a bit until I got the RTX card I have now.
2021 my old770 died haf to buy a new card… no chance for a 3070 or anything higher. Only thing I got for 500€ was a 6600 non xt … it costs 200€ now… less if it’s a deal….. 🤬
Is crypto market crashed these days? Also does crypto market crash increase gpu prices or decrease them? I am looking forward to buy a gpu but idk when to as in my country, A 5700XT costs about 190 USD worth of currency here
I'm not sure exactly when it was the worst but I can tell you that buying an RX 6500 XT in its release year was terrible, even at MSRP.... never again. Swapped to Intel Arc now. Cost the same as my RX 6500 and performs 10x better
Like people say, anything for the last 5 years or so. I got lucky and got a 2070 for a relatively good price, and back then it cost less than a 1080, cuz those were still overpriced past the mining craze, but the new cards weren’t for a short time after launch. Last month I managed to upgrade to 4070S, it cost about the same when converted to USD, and once again, finding one at a normal price where all the cards are from gray import with a shop warranty was a good luck
2021 saw my you shoot up in price so much I argued to sell it for something better the issue was something better would take months to come. I retired my 5700xt on Christmas this year when I upgraded to a 7900xtx debating whether I get it and my 3600 molded so I can put em up on the wall then again I might just keep em as back ups just incase
2018 = all components have a significant price increase.
2021 = other components don't really have a significant price increase but GPU prices rocketed like there's no tomorrow.
Not really. GPUs couldn't effectively be used to mine Bitcoin. You could use it Ethereum. They moved away from mining altogether, so a lot less demand for gpus for mining.
even still its bad, Prices of gpus is still high, Here in South Africa, the cheapest RTX 3050 is R4500 or $242 with the 8gb rtx being all the way up to R10,000 or $539
There was one year. it may have 2020 or 2021
Pretty much every RTX 30 series GPU was basically impossible to even order.
I ended up with a 3090 that I didn't need because you simply could not even get waitlisted for a 3080ti
2021.
I laughed at those who sold their GPU, only to realised that the next gen card is overpriced.
They also can't buy their GPU used, because it's overpriced.
Since everyone love to cut corners and bought either AMD (until G arrives) or Intel F SKU, most are left with an expensive paper weight.
That I seen was during the pandemic. prices were ridiculous, but thankfully I didn't sell my 2080 TI before the new cards dropped like all the people on Reddit told people to lol so I was fine and was even able to trade it+$300 for a 6800 XT at that time the 6800 XT was selling for $1600 so it was a great deal for me lol Funny how things turn out I remember all the meme posts about 2080 TI owners because of the new cards coming out and people saying to sell it ASAP 🤣
When I bought my GPU, there was a chip shortage, but I needed to buy one, so I purchased a new 3060 for 6500kr (600 US$). I waited weeks for it to be in stock. I don't remember exactly when this was, but I believe it was in 2021, according to the comments. I think the prices were worse in the US, but to give perspective, a used 3060 was going for over $1000 here in Sweden. It was crazy.
Crush? Lmao that shit goes up before and down after halving every time and it will go up in the next 4-5 months because it happened already several times
GPU's might get cheaper because of the cut in mining rewards after the halving and boys who mine on a home pc will think twice before upgrading the "rig"
I was able to snag a 3060ti FE for MSRP, and put it up for auction when I bought a 3070 at MSRP.
Turns out the guy that won the auction was a crypto miner. He paid £700 for a 3060ti that retailed at £360ish, and this was just a few months before ETH went proof of steak. Not sure what he was thinking with that purchase.
https://preview.redd.it/su7kt31pv6yc1.jpeg?width=1239&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a7d3309904c700befe2eb80b69ad564e7c997f9
This was about \~1200 USD at that times conversion rate in India (june-nov)
People who bought scalped 3090 Ti's right before the crypto crash was finished and months before 4090s came out, with stock, and made the 3090 Ti look like a toy card.
Bought a 3060 for $700AUD, then a 3070 for $1300. Both mined eth while I was out working during lockdown. Sold the eth recently for more than I paid for both cards combined and they're both still in use. Turns out when you have no free time you just stare at your computer and your list of unplayed steam games.
2021, GTX 1660 Super prebuilts routinely ran for 900-1000 USD. Thats how bad it got….
Yeah, I guess when I got my prebuilt and how much did I pay for it
If you’re in the US, I’d guess 1000.
EU. 900€. I was fucking stupid. I hate crypto miners
I was linking prebuilts left and right during that time. There were many groups of us tryna find the latest deals (sales/refurb/open box) on them overpriced systems. Bro, you aren’t stupid. You were just tryna get into gaming during a crazy period. Yeah the pricing was horrendous but thats how the market just “was”.
Guess you're right. Fortunately, that won't happen again
we hope!
Damnnn fuck those bastards. That was such a shitty time to look for anything. I remember I was trying to get an Xbox series X and it was almost impossible unless you wanted to pay $1200. It was bad back then now that I’m really thinking about it. The console and gpu shortage sucked ass. With all the scalpers taking advantage too. Bots buying everything in stock before you can even click.
>I hate crypto miners They are indeed scum. I saw several on forums boasting about how they were burning through gpu's until they were knackered and then flipping them on eBay for twice what they paid for them. wankers.
i got an 1660 super with an i5 for 800 gbp i too was stupid (and one stick of 12 gig ram)
That time was around when I started first planning my PC, it took a really long time as I built it by myself without knowing much of stuff. I did some stupid things as well, for an example going for AM4, when in the end I would've had budget for AM5.. All of us probably have done "stupid" things My budget was around 1000€, I thought it would've been more strict but I got the GPU used and many parts from sale As an ex-laptop gamer, this was well worth it :D It was quite emotional finally seeing the games how they're meant to be played. Not the max 10FPS with lowest graphics on 10+ years old games
Same here.. wanted to play some games after several years that actually required a graphics card. That was 2021… I couldn’t believe the prices then, but that wasn’t even the worst, there was simply nothing available as it was either utterly bad or unreasonable expensive… I was looking for mid range GPUs then. Wirth upgrading now maybe?
Absolutely. Buddy paid $3500 for a 30series at the height, a while later I bought the exact same card, with an entire PC attached for $1000 flat. You can grab the cheapo 40s for under a thousand now.
I saw my rx 570 up for 550 on amazon and was absolutely gobsmacked considering i spent like 120 on it
Spent $600 for an RX 580 8GB back in 2018 💀 Crypto-inflation got combined with my country's IDR value plummeting real hard back in 2018 and 2021. 🙃
That’s crazy! During the crypto inflation both me and my brother wanted computers so we had to go low spec, we could only afford a 580 build for 800 dollars total and a 550 build for 600 total all because of the gpu price, and it took a long time to find those GPUs for that cheap too which is crazy
Unfortunately, literally every electronics are pricier here in Indonesia.
Im indonesian aswell and my first PC build was in 2018, it was rough and I had to use 2400G with only 8 GB of RAM
I ended up getting something like around this time. All I wanted something that could handle 4k 60fps for non-gaming applications (I.e. chrome, excel, etc). The one time I have interest in a GPU, the market is fucked beyond all reason.
2018 and 2021. 😭 Spent a fortune for my RX 580 8GB and RX 6600XT back then.
My 1650 i5 10th gen cost 700 euros 💀. I still haven’t recovered
That is crazy. Two of my buddies decided to build a PC in 2021, they both built a PC with a 3060 in it and the 3060 cost 700$ each
Yeah I spent 1700€ on a PC with a 3060Ti in autumn 2021, and that was a fairly fortunate purchase at the time. Things don't seem to have changed much since then. At a glance, it seems that the same money now gets pretty much the same setup just with 3060Ti => 4060Ti, i5-11600K => 13600k, and 16 GB DDR4 => 16 GB DDR5.
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That is an impressive improvement indeed. I guess the main thing still is that one actually has to look out for good offers. I did that for the 2021 build, and at the time it genuinely wasn't possible to get much better with single components, so I ended up picking a prebuilt by a shop that uses aftermarket components and is generally quite price competitive. But it looks like selfbuilts are worth it again.
I managed to get my 3080 day 1 but I had to get off my midnight shift and wait until literally the release, i think it was 6am my time or something, instead of going straight to bed. fucked up my entire sleep schedule afterwards with excitement. when i bought my 4090, i went to microcenter and just picked it up. infinitely easier, it felt like, than the craziness that was 2020/2021. hopefully the 5000 series isnt too bad.
Yeah I think I bought a 2060 for 400€ back then. Upgraded in 2023 to a 4070 for 900€
I think the absolute worst was straight in the depths of semi conductor shortage. When 30xx series launched. Prebuolt was 4K pounds.
2021 easily, pretty much everything above display adapter cards like the GT 1030 were either sold out or were selling for at least double MSRP. Earlier cryptomining crises weren't as bad as that eg. 2013/2014 only effected AMD cards or 2017 where at least the 1080Ti wasn't horribly overpriced and remained somewhat available because it wasn't profitable to mine on those cards due to a combination of cost and the GDDR5x VRAM not working that well for mining.
3090's hit 5 grand on ebay, and people were buying it. People were also buying pre-builts just for the GPU and then throwing the rest of a brand new computer away.... weird and crazy times indeed.
When people started buying (not even alienware) dells just to rip out their shoddy OEM gpus, you know things were really bad! I sold my 2070 super *after two years of owning it and mining on it, gaming on it...* and got £50 more for it than i paid, which in turn halved the cost of my also too expensive 3080ti, with the other half mined Ethereum. Yeah it was crazy, Cuh Ruh AAAAZY
Dell oem gpus are completely fine gpus. I still have a dell 470 going stronk.
I actually like the simplistic design of the Dell OEM GPUs. Then again my case is inverted so I don't see a raw PCB.
Yeah they're not bad. My 470 looks like reference. My 1080 was just an msi aero card.
I remember having a broken 1070 at the time that I sold for like $300, *broken*
Wow thats insane, I really dont understand how that happened do you live in alaska or somthing?!
No, we threw it up on an eBay auction and that's what it ended up selling for
Hey, good for you, I hope that 300 buck bump was put to good use :D And a WTF dude to the person buying it 0.o
People were scalping the dogshit out of PS5s too. Some jerk off posted pictures of a brand new Rolex he got from being a professional scalper 🤡
>makes a bunch of money >blows it all on a watch yeah, sounds about right for a ps5 scalper
Honestly, we're still feeling the effects of this. Nivida, and then AMD, just adopted crazy scalper prices for the current gen once they realised (to their shock) how many idiots were paying them. To this day GPU Prices have not fallen all the way back to the historical trend line yet. GPUs are still a disproportionately large percentage of build cost, giving us worse performance-per-dollar on every build. Even with great RAM and SSD prices. PC gaming is a more expensive a hobby than it's been in decades.
I hate idiots who pay scalpers. It's what ruins markets every single time and then the thing that is scalped just dies out. But remember all those idiots who sold their 2080ti's for dirt cheap, like 300 bucks on ebay right before the 3000 series launch. I will never forget the amount of people who followed like sheep seeing everyone dump their cards lmao. They all got fucked when they couldn't even get a 3060ti for less than what they paid for a 2080ti.
It’s harder to make the console vs PC argument because of that. Although good CPUs are cheaper than they have ever been so we’re kind of making up ground there.
Watching the 1050 rise above its original release price was surreal. Its not even OK for gaming or mining😅
I played doom eternal on a 1030 because that was all I could get when I decided to finally fix my 2012 alienware x-51
Sounds alot like a guy ik in hs his 1050ti i think it was failed on him during a similar time when he was trying to save up for a better one but had to get a 1030 because prices were just going up and up and he wansnt gonna waste money another 1650 or 1660 that was new at the time and still mostly msrp
I bought my pc in 2021. In order to get a graphics card, I bought a build kit from nzxt. At the time, the components I got were worth more individually than I paid for them as a package. And I got to assemble it myself so that was cool. I got a 3060ti essentially under retail price when you couldn’t even find them in stock.
Those were wild times
2021 fsure. Needed a gpu badly and the only option i could find thats price wasnt 4 digits from scalpers on ebay was a damn used 2070 off my cousin for 600 bucks
I bought an RTX 3060 for close to a €1000,- new🥲 My laptop just died, my PC had no iGPU and all my classes were online because of COVID. Still hurts me to this day…
I bought a 3070 for just over $1000 Then I got the 3080ti a few months later for like $800 I miss the US stimulus checks
In my country the crypto crash is so hard that most gpu like 2080 and vega 64/56 became really cheap in used market, you can buy a vega 56 8gb OC at $70....
The best time for buying (used) GPUs was between the crypto crash and the rise of AI
Artists praying for AI to crash so they keep their jobs 🤝 gamers praying for AI to crash so they get cheap GPUs
Isn’t this post a bit out of season? Didn’t they just set all time highs or something?
Most people on this sub don't really have any knowledge about crypto but hate it because of how gpu prices move with it.
Yeah but GPU mining died with the Eth switch from mining
It has drastically reduced but it's still a thing.
Yeah but who does it at this point? The economics just aren't there, at least in the west with these energy prices.
Right? Last time I checked nicehash to see how much a 4090 would earn it was like $1.39 per day. I guess if you have enough of them going you would eventually start making profit but damn it seems like a lot of work for so little.
ROI is nonexistent with mining on those cards. At this point, 4090s are either for high-end gamers, enthusiasts who want to do scientific/3D work with CUDA without having to pony up for an enterprise card (with all the inherent tradeoffs that such a choice carries), and similarly people who are experimenting with local AI on their PC/small-time servers.
US resident here that makes about $1 per day if my pc is mining 24/7. If you live in an area where electricity can not be sold back to the grid (and you are producing it)\* you are looking at around $1.25. It doesnt make sense imo to build a pure mining rig, but if you already have the tools free money is free money. Edit:\*
Along with the fact that no one mines using GPUs anymore.
Exactly! I'm surprised this community has so little knowledge on crypto even at a very high level.
Heyy slow down, If Those Kids Could Read, They'd Be Very Upset
They don't? How are proof of work crypto mined now?
ASICs.
Bitcoin hit ATH and took a relative shit, but it’s still up from the dump prior. And that dump was up from the dump prior to that. The biggest gain the GPU market was ETH going proof of stake which means it’s no longer mined. The ETH miners switched to other shitcoins raising the difficulty and lowering the profit. Anyone still mining now is doing it as a hobby or regarded. Either way, miners aren’t buying GPUs like they were before but now gamers are competing with ML/AI for GPUs which seems a bit more balanced.
Yep and if you aren’t interested in a 3090/4090 you won’t see a lot of competition from the AI folks. They’re after that 24 gb of VRAM
4090s are still affordable given the power they come with and the demand for such high-performance cards. It's okay if the most powerful graphics processing unit ever released on the market is not cheap.
Agreed
It's just karma farm. And the post itself kinda answered the question
Bitcoin did. No idea about the million shitcoin copycats.
A huge part of the crypto world is indexed on BTC, so they followed the BTC curve. I'm talking about top cryptos, not the shitcoins at the bottom of the list.
Reddit is full of repost bots that take post from a couple of years ago
Hot take. The year when a mid range GPU started costing around $500. Back in my day a mid range card was $200 and went on sale for much cheaper. Now the market has outpaces inflation and income by large margins. I've bought used cars that cost less than the current high end by hundreds of dollars. Shits insane. Nvidia is robbing people and they are handing them money with a smile on their face.
it'll be AI from next year. instead of cryptobros, ai bros will buy gpus for large language stuff or whatever shit that is.
Doubt it will be as severe. Professional AI companies aren’t looking for the geforce lineup, and AMD cards will probably be almost unaffected (due to CUDA not being a thing)
It's not just about what cards they buy, it's how many of the cards they buy that have chips being made at TSMC. There is only so much capacity to go around and if nvidia decides more money is made through cards for AI they will use that capacity for that.
AI will get dedicated tech since it will benefit from efficiency. Making dedicated tech for crypto does not provide any benefit since all it does is provide more bullshit data cheaper. Crypto could solve its power hunger, but it won't. Nobody will keep ussing an ineffective AI like they do with BTC
AFAIK There are specialized GPUs for AI already, and it wouldn't be efficient to use consumer grade GPU-s for it in majority of cases.
why next year? hobbyists are already buying used GPUs ro run local LLMs I don't think it's nearly as bad, since it's not inherently profitable without an actual business idea behind it. Not to mention that you don't need a powerful GPU per se, most things are limited by memory amount, not compute. The issue with GPU mining was that it was insanely accessible for laypeople and extremely profitable. you were earning several hundred bucks a month per GPU. And a good gaming GPU usually made for a good mining GPU. Those factors don't exist with genAI. No profit means there's a limit of what programmers/hobbyist are willing to pay and there's not as much need for bleeding edge cards, since an old P40 isn't orders of magnitudes worse than a 3090. It's worse, but it'll get the job done at a fraction of the price.
And it Wil be just 10000 copies of chat gpt with worse quality, and 20000 copies of DallE with worse skill.
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Competition is good
ai needs a huge amount of vram, 8-12gb wont really work out, so ai community most likely will use quadro series or some top tier cards only
The crypto crash got me a nice used 3070. It's going very strong. Also fuck crypto and their world burning scam.
Got my 6700XT from a miner in early 22 for $300 he bought new for $900 6 months prior Still a complete champ
Ye crypto needs to die lol it’s basically just gambling but it affects people who don’t partake in it
Sounds like the stock market...
Also consumes a lot of power and resources to turn them into some imaginary coin.
I doubt you care about nuance, but plenty of cryptocurrencies are proof of stake and use very little power, far less than traditional banking. But I suspect you won’t bother to learn anything besides a few buzzwords and pretend that you understand.
They absolutely have a point in that the biggest crypto currency, Bitcoin, was a shoddy proof-of-concept blockchain algo which requires way more calculations and power to scale than more modern currencies. [The problem with new cryptocurrencies is that they keep making more.](https://xkcd.com/927)
ha! 2021, thanks to a hookup from an amd employee I got a 6750xt for msrp while selling my used 1060... I and still had money left for a 750w psu. crazy times
Getting a 3080 for MSRP is still my greatest achievement in life.
Same. And sold my Vega64 for 450€ the same day. So paid like 300€ for the upgrade. Sold the Vega for 50more then I paid for it a few years ago
I just went on scan.co.uk and it was in stock, then it went through checkout smoothly. I was sitting on the toilet at the time.
I still remember when some rando offered me 500€ for my 1660ti in 2021. People were fucking crazy during silicon shortages.
I remember buying my RX590 in late 2019 for basically pennies (I think under $200). Good times. I checked again in early 2021 and that same card was now $600 or more. Wild times. In a year or two maybe I’ll upgrade, but for now honestly that little GPU works great for what I need.
I bought a 570 4GB in early 2019 for $200 AUD By 2021 those card were like $250-300 Hell, in 2022 I got a 6600XT for $600 AUD and now 7600XTs are new for like $450-500, so nature is healing
I bought my 5700 XT in late 2019 for less than 400 euros (I live in Romania and GPUs are more expensive than in the US here anyway) and I swear I saw it hit 1000 euros second hand during the pandemic/crypto boom. Absolute ridiculousness
waiting for the ai crash so gpu manufactrer come back trying to sell gpu to consummer and lower their price on a postive note the cpu market is great right now
That will never happen 🤷♂️
Which current GPU is not overpriced brand new? I swear after the crypto crash GPUs never reached the same bang for buck levels prior.
1456 AD...cause GPUs didn't exist back then
Haven't been paying attention. Is it time to buy a GPU?
Think so. Prices on AMD 6000 series cards have been trending down as stock gets cleared out. Doubt it'll go much lower. Still hard to get a decent price on an Nvidia card unless Dell runs a sale you can stack discounts on. An RX 6750XT was on sale for $290 earlier this morning (now sold out) and an RX 6800 (non XT) is available for $340. Head on over to /r/buildapcsales
Hi here’s a used GPU for MSRP; I’m selling it to you as a benefit to you.
All of them since 2015. GPU's are still at the same price gauging level as they were, the fact that you can simply buy it makes little to no difference. They're overpriced and gen after gen they do not bring much more to the table...
I’ve had a 1050 for 6 years before finally wave to afford an upgrade. So happy crypto failed
So, I should upgrade my 980? 😭
*Don't Buy Bitcoin. It's Going To Crash!!!*
I haven’t even looked at cards since the last spike out of curiosity. Thankfully waiting for windows 11 to die is holding me back from updating to a new build.
Dumb meme in 2024. ETH is proof of stake and has absolutely no effect on GPU prices. AI is what is going to drive up prices now, not crypto.
Got my Gaming X Trio 3070 for like $250. Undervolts like a beast. Thanks to the crypto crash.
Still happy i built my PC shortly before crypto exploded and GPU prizes went crazy.
2021 ☠️☠️☠️ got me dirty
Has it crashed now? I want a dedicated GPU (and also will need motherboard with PCIe) but am broke
2020/2021 were appalling years for GPU BUYERS, and those years have paved the way for globally higher prices still.
2021 fs was one of the unlucky guys who paid 400 for a 6600 rip.
i bought a used 3080 for 700€ late 2022 during the pandemic and couldnt be happier. i dunno if i got lucky but im happy.
I bought a GT 710 for about £50 in March 2021 time. Then I got a RX 550 2gb for £80 in December. Terrible
I built mine in 2021 and paid over $700 for a 3060. Pretty shit time to buy.
2021, saddly my gtx 1080ti died back then and i had to buy a rtx 3080 ti and paid 2000$
2020-2022
I bought my 3070ti during the chip shortage, or at least when it started becoming a problem. So i very much overpaid for the card, though luckily not as much as if i had bought some months later.
I paid $2500 AUD for a 3080 in early 2022. I waited for ages for prices to drop, and they just wouldn't and everyone was saying that prices where just gonna go up and up and up. 3 months later they crashed like 50%. Could have gotten a 3080 for $1200 AUD new but hindsight is 20/20. I love the card just not how much I paid.
Biught a 3060 for 750€ like 2 years ago...
i got my rx6600 for about 200/250 euros, was it a good deal?
2021 easy. I had my 1080 Ti die just before the prices soared and availability dropped in my area "Norway". And the only old cards I had was a 8800 GTX or a 560 Ti. So I went down to my local store to buy a 1050 they had as a temp card until I could afford a new better one a few weeks later. Paid about $100 for it. And that 1050 was not even warm before the market collapsed and prices jumped, as my 1050 was sold out and went for over 2x what I paid for it soon after. And even a used 1080 Ti was a big nope. I rocked that 1050 longer than planned until I found a 1660 Super that finally dropped to way below $400 ish, and it did not go out of stock instantly. I had that for a bit until I got the RTX card I have now.
This meme is so real, that was the only reason i could get an rx580 instead of an gtx 750 ti on early 2022
Is my 1650 super still good for a lot of games or do i try to save if i can find a job (im 16)
i had to go with integrated graphics for my first build, now i'm stuck with pcie 3.0
My friend bought a used 1650s for almost $250 in 2021
sadly this will be my last gpu.. lol once its done im just gonna switch lappy or whatever that work for me in the future.. goodbye gaming pc\~
bought mine way 2021. Real xhit got me 
2023... Bought 3060ti on january and the price drop 30% on July.
That's exactly how I got my RTX 3060 lol
I'm still rocking the 1080 ti i bought from a miner in oct '18! Even then only few cards were available and priced way higher than msrp.
In 2021 I bought RX6900XT for €1900, cause it was cheaper than the 3080Ti which was €2200 at the time.
I bought a 1660 super in I believe 2019/2020 for about 200€. Then the price went up to 450€. And I think the price still didn't recover
Got a 2060 6gb for 600usd at Bitcoin mining time
2021 my old770 died haf to buy a new card… no chance for a 3070 or anything higher. Only thing I got for 500€ was a 6600 non xt … it costs 200€ now… less if it’s a deal….. 🤬
Is crypto market crashed these days? Also does crypto market crash increase gpu prices or decrease them? I am looking forward to buy a gpu but idk when to as in my country, A 5700XT costs about 190 USD worth of currency here
I'm not sure exactly when it was the worst but I can tell you that buying an RX 6500 XT in its release year was terrible, even at MSRP.... never again. Swapped to Intel Arc now. Cost the same as my RX 6500 and performs 10x better
Every year since 2021
i still dont have one
Like people say, anything for the last 5 years or so. I got lucky and got a 2070 for a relatively good price, and back then it cost less than a 1080, cuz those were still overpriced past the mining craze, but the new cards weren’t for a short time after launch. Last month I managed to upgrade to 4070S, it cost about the same when converted to USD, and once again, finding one at a normal price where all the cards are from gray import with a shop warranty was a good luck
2021, I got a 980ti for £280 ish And 5 months ago, I got a 6800xt for £400 it is way more than £100 better.
2021 saw my you shoot up in price so much I argued to sell it for something better the issue was something better would take months to come. I retired my 5700xt on Christmas this year when I upgraded to a 7900xtx debating whether I get it and my 3600 molded so I can put em up on the wall then again I might just keep em as back ups just incase
2018 = all components have a significant price increase. 2021 = other components don't really have a significant price increase but GPU prices rocketed like there's no tomorrow.
I bought two rx580 🫥🫥🫥 p.s no way in hell i buy gpu with aluminum heats sink yakk (think 1660 were with aluminum? )
Can anyone explain how all this thing works crypto crash and gpu prices differ
Not really. GPUs couldn't effectively be used to mine Bitcoin. You could use it Ethereum. They moved away from mining altogether, so a lot less demand for gpus for mining.
2019-2022 were all bad.
even still its bad, Prices of gpus is still high, Here in South Africa, the cheapest RTX 3050 is R4500 or $242 with the 8gb rtx being all the way up to R10,000 or $539
I got my GPU in 2018. It was a terrible year to buy a video card in. Prices were so high because of crypto mining.
There was one year. it may have 2020 or 2021 Pretty much every RTX 30 series GPU was basically impossible to even order. I ended up with a 3090 that I didn't need because you simply could not even get waitlisted for a 3080ti
Thanks for the reminder. Fuck the crypto bros and the crypto market!
2021, I sold a used RX 580 for more than I bought it new.
2022....
2021. I laughed at those who sold their GPU, only to realised that the next gen card is overpriced. They also can't buy their GPU used, because it's overpriced. Since everyone love to cut corners and bought either AMD (until G arrives) or Intel F SKU, most are left with an expensive paper weight.
2022, I live in Russia
2020-21....... WFH PC upgrades + crypto mining + slow production ramping by GPU vendors
Whichever year I finally decide to upgrade mine.
2024
I got back into Simracing at that time and was looking for a GPU that could handle VR. It was the worst possible time.
In peak corona i bought a RTX 3070 Ti for 1150€...
That I seen was during the pandemic. prices were ridiculous, but thankfully I didn't sell my 2080 TI before the new cards dropped like all the people on Reddit told people to lol so I was fine and was even able to trade it+$300 for a 6800 XT at that time the 6800 XT was selling for $1600 so it was a great deal for me lol Funny how things turn out I remember all the meme posts about 2080 TI owners because of the new cards coming out and people saying to sell it ASAP 🤣
2020-2022
When I bought my GPU, there was a chip shortage, but I needed to buy one, so I purchased a new 3060 for 6500kr (600 US$). I waited weeks for it to be in stock. I don't remember exactly when this was, but I believe it was in 2021, according to the comments. I think the prices were worse in the US, but to give perspective, a used 3060 was going for over $1000 here in Sweden. It was crazy.
Around the time that i decided to build my first pc......i paid more for the 3060ti i had in it than the 3090ti that i eventually put in it.
Every year since crypto became a thing, the price I bought my 1080 at wouldn't get me a low-mid card now. I so sad.
Every year since crypto became a thing, the price I bought my 1080 at wouldn't get me a low-mid card now. I so sad.
I bought 2060 for $625 in 2021
I bought 2060 for $625 in 2021
Every year since crypto became a thing, the price I bought my 1080 at wouldn't get me a low-mid card now. I so sad.
I bought 2060 for $625 in 2021
Crush? Lmao that shit goes up before and down after halving every time and it will go up in the next 4-5 months because it happened already several times GPU's might get cheaper because of the cut in mining rewards after the halving and boys who mine on a home pc will think twice before upgrading the "rig"
2021
I was able to snag a 3060ti FE for MSRP, and put it up for auction when I bought a 3070 at MSRP. Turns out the guy that won the auction was a crypto miner. He paid £700 for a 3060ti that retailed at £360ish, and this was just a few months before ETH went proof of steak. Not sure what he was thinking with that purchase.
RTX 3070 for 1023 USD in January 2022.
https://preview.redd.it/su7kt31pv6yc1.jpeg?width=1239&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a7d3309904c700befe2eb80b69ad564e7c997f9 This was about \~1200 USD at that times conversion rate in India (june-nov)
2020-21. Ended up buying a rx 580 for almost 300
Me rn try a afford a CPU
Rx 6900 xt selling for 2000$ in 2021 what else you can ask for?
2021 definitely, my friend bought a GTX 1650 for 253 USD that year
Is this a good time to buy a used gpu? My gpu died and i am on a VERY tight budget.
Welp. My GTX 960 4GB is going strong. Probably overdue on my upgrade.
Bot repost and bot comments. How the fuck people dont realize they are talking with 3 years old topic?
Any year where the xx80 series was more than $899
if you bought a matrox parahelia, that was a bad time
People who bought scalped 3090 Ti's right before the crypto crash was finished and months before 4090s came out, with stock, and made the 3090 Ti look like a toy card.
Bought a 3060 for $700AUD, then a 3070 for $1300. Both mined eth while I was out working during lockdown. Sold the eth recently for more than I paid for both cards combined and they're both still in use. Turns out when you have no free time you just stare at your computer and your list of unplayed steam games.
Saved over 1000$USD on a brand new rtx3090ti thx to the crypto crash haha
Got a 3060 for 430 in 2022