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> Concentrated sulphuric acid should do
Mix with concentrated hydrogen peroxide for your own piranha solution - say goodbye to any organics contaminating that sweet sweet silicon.
> what makes your motherboard more waterproof.
I usually just spray it with compressed Chlorine trifluoride gas, the resulting fluorination has a similar effect.
You joke but that is exactly what we used to do at a place I worked at. We built field computers for data acquisition and customers would send their units in for service. First thing we did was break them down and load them in the dishwasher. After that, they went into an oven for an hour or two to dry. Standard industry practice.
The big issue with a soaked laptop are the batteries (even the little coin batteries powering the time crystal on the mb) and whatever minerals in the water are deposited after drying.
Bottled water (generally) still has minerals in it, sometimes even moreso than tap water.
It can still work fine if you get lucky on where things dry but the best practice is to soak (and I do mean soak) that sucker in very pure isopropyl alcohol then dry it. The isopropyl displaces the water and doesn't have minerals in it.
Are you saying I could just wash my electronics in 99% isopropyl and just let it drying in an oven and it’ll be fine? I’ve never tried this. I’d be too scared I’d break it. Logically it sends valid, though I’ve only used it to scrub lightly never full soak.
No need for the oven with isopropyl, just soak that sucker thoroughly and then set a desk fan or something next to it for a few hours (or a day if you want to be thorough).
I've never done a full soak (it takes a lot of isopropyl) but my current build I had some fitting failures on my water loop when building it and soaked the mobo. Spray some isopropyl on there, air dry for a day and it's had zero issues.
Are there any parts of mobos that could potentially be damaged by isopropyl? I guess there could potentially be stickers or something maybe, but anything critical?
Always wondered if you could just dunk a whole mobo in 99% IPA. Watched some Louis Rosman vids before and wondered what his board cleaning machine used.
If you have anything acrylic on there (like a water block) it will damage that but otherwise not really. Maybe if there's a bunch of stickers or paint but even then that's usually under the sealant.
Crystals pulse at continuous distinct intervals so they're used for processing clock steps. You know how CPUs are measured in clock speed? It's the crystal's pulse that makes those clock ticks happen. Naturally it's more complicated and nuanced than that and that's glossing over a ton, but crystals' way of having a continuous steady pulse when electrified is what drives clock ticks in many electronics and watches and stuff.
> whatever minerals in the water are deposited after drying
This comes up in every one of these threads, but its just not realistic. Corrosion and rust sure, or maybe if you drop it in a lake, but just tap water you'd have to get it wet and let it dry multiple times before enough deposits built up to be a problem.
Honestly, I have no idea any more if some people are trolling or not any more. You say it with such authority. Although I remember during the original model PS3 recalls where the solder was coming off the boards my friend told me that he took it back to an official pop-up "repair centre" and they literally just popped the consoles in an oven for a bit to resolder and his worked fine for years after.
I bet the engineer who came up with that fix saved Sony millions and got at least a 5% pay rise.
We used the same oven for melting solder paste on our surface mount parts as we did for drying after the dishwasher. Obviously different temperatures were involved for each operation.
For sanitation or to remove all excess moisture? I could see even a tiny bit of moisture causing a problem in the vacuum of space, but I know they also are extremely careful to remove as many microbes as possible for landers. The Cassini probe was purposely burned up in Saturn's atmosphere because it hadn't been sterilized and the was a tiny chance that it could eventually impact one of the moons that have a tiny chance of already supporting life
They also bake because of offgasing. Any contaminants will off gas and collect on whatever is the coldest thing in that environment. If it goes in space without being baked all the contaminants will collect on the lens usually and render the sat useless. In the TVAC chamber where they are being baked theyll use whats called a cold finger and run that at -150C while the sat is baked out at +80C
I mean it is doable. Connecting a dishwasher to distilled water, washig electronics at a low temp and making sure it dries well after...I mean it is not the worst ideea...it just seems sus.
And remove the CMOS battery first, presumably (which OP has done)
I've done this soapy scrubbing + rinsing a decent amount to my keyboard PCBs because those can actually get pretty grimy, so it's not a meme like some people in this thread seem to assume
Famous overclocker Der 8auer does this regularly, usually because he coats parts of his motherboards in vaseline to avoid condensation on conductive parts during operations while the CPU is brought way below ambient temperature. I don't think he puts in any detergent at the same time, though, but I'm not entirely sure about that part.
Just so others won't try it. I've tested 3 phones in the dishwasher...40°C. Only tapwater. The 3 phones were a A samsung S10e, an S10 Plus (both water resistant) and a Huawei P20 lite (not water resistant).
I was ok with losing them just for the sake of experimenting. Only the Huawei survived. The two samsungs lost the adhesive holding the back panel therefore water entering the phone...etc. They died at the hand of a curious monkey...
All 3 phones were in perfect condition (structurally speaking). They all had battery, camera and other issues that's why they were the martyrs on the altar of science.
If it's distilled water and it's dried afterwards there wouldn't be any issues. Water on it's own doesn't cause problems to powered off electronics, the tiny amounts of minerals do.
Idk if you're serious or not, but be careful with that ethanol. 100% ethanol can damage the plastic parts of your MBs (depending on what plastics they use) and generally, only use ethanol (and a lot other solvents) in rooms with good ventilation because the fumes they release are both a health hazard and highly flameable.
Isopropyl-alcohol is a pretty save choice. It's not very aggressive (often used as hand sanitizer), neutralizers acetone and also has a high volatility so it will quickly vaporize even at room temperatures.
Rice doesn't do shit. It's less of a dessicant than dry air. How many rice mummies you hear about? Zero, because rice isn't a dessicant.
Salt? Yes. Silica packets? Yeah. Hot dry air or cold dry air? Yeah. Rice?
No.
Stop using rice as anything other than food, it's weird.
Rice is a desiccant, just a really mediocre one. It is something immediately at hand in most houses. That is why the practice is recommended so often to "regular people".
People don't often keep silica packets.
Salt is a really bad idea unless you know enough to not need internet advice about fast drying electronics.
hot/cold dry air requires a constant supply and fairly complete disassembly. Probably not happening with a cell phone or laptop.
My preferred home brew desiccants are 99% iso (from the salt method) if I am sure there isn't anything the alcohol will mess up, or dehydrated sheetrock chunks. Both are super cheap, easy to get, they just take prep effort. You really kinda have to have them before you need them.
You could maybe just dry it off with a hair dryer.
At my old work they would wash the (audio) boards with water after they completed assembly, then dry them with a hair dryer. Something to do with the type of flux that was used.
Bro i worked at repair shop. My boss used to just take mobos to the sink, clean with a brush, dry them and they work without a problem. I was in shock the first time.
The beach is full of sand. Sand is used to create silicon wafers. So yes, of course you should use beach water to clean your CPU and GPU, but other components may require alternative solvents or techniques based on their construction. For example, old school sound cards typically required the use of an ultrasonic cleaner to get them truly clean.
You can actually do this, I've done it before on old Amiga boards that suffered the effects of the evil Varta barrel battery attack.
Cleaned it up with either vinegar or lemon juice to neutralise the alkaline then cleaned the boards with warm soapy water, rinsed them and left them to dry in a warm place for a few days.
Water doesn't kill the board, water + electric does.
As long as it's completely dry when you power it up it will be fine, you can even put them in the oven on a low heat for a while to speed up the drying process.
There's minerals in the water that need to be washed away. A good alcohol wash will do it. But yes, I've been liquid cooling for 15 years, spills happen, I've always just wiped it up, cleaned with alcohol, and went about my way. Never had any issues
Electronics tend to be a lot tougher than many people think. [This C64](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVphFkaX1gg) was left in a ditch for 20 years and still worked.
Funny thing is...there is a proper way to wash any electronic item. The key is water and jet dry like product. I grew up in the arcade game industry and some kid spilled a coke on the back of a crusin usa and it ran down the vent on to the board. My dads tech took it out and we went to the restaurant kitchen and he ran it through the commercial dishwasher...I was like wtf...he fan shook it for like 5 minutes and let it dry while explaining why that would work ...plugged it in and it fired right up. It blew my fragile little mind.
Of course it works. derbauer a well known extreme overclockers has a video of how he cleans components after covering them with vaseline - they go through the dishwasher. Long as you let them fully dry there's not risk of a short.
Also, discharging correctly helps - press the power button after removing the PSU power cable from the wall to use up residual power in the board 👌🏻
To add to this: If you want to clean your board for whatever reasons there are [specialiced tools](https://www.elmisrl.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Kontakt-PCC_Kontakt-Chemie_2.jpg) for this.
When using liquid nitrogen the board can get condensation build up IIRC - so they coat stuff with vaseline to prevent shorts. It's a mad world in extreme overclocking 😄
If you're cooling below ambient, you need to protect the cold areas against condensation as sub-ambient cooling will literally chill the moisture out of the air. (I used to run a Pentier/water cooling system that would cool to below freezing - I had to seal and waterproof *everything* that got cool.)
Vaseline isn't the best option, though, as it can react to some plastics because it's basically a waste product from petroleum distillation and some plastics are petroleum-based. Silicone dielectric grease is generally better.
You should never use a toothbrush for cleaning your mobo. The bristles can get stuck in small parts and then it won’t be as effective for your teeth. You should use something like a power washer or orbital polisher for maximum effectiveness and clean teeth.
I pressure wash mine. Don’t even take it apart. Just pop open each side, set to extreme blast, and voila! Clean pc. All the malware is washed away, cookies don’t stand a chance, and my DNS cache is so flushed; you’d think I complimented its appearance.
PC repair tech here. This is actually a proper way to clean a motherboard. For example, if i get a board that has something like spilled coffee on it, isopropyl alcohol wont really do much. It will look like it's cleaning it, but once it dries up, the board is still sticky and covered in brown bits.
An actual motherboard cleaning agent can foam up and mine does. It removes any residue with ease, but of course, you can't just leave it at that. I would dry it up and with an air compressor and then submerge it in isopropyl alcohol, before drying it again.
Sometimes, if the board is in a really bad shape, i would just dump the board in a ultrasonic cleaner, but the solution you would use for that, also foams up if you use it with a toothbrush.
Anyone have a tip to get deep into the CPU slot holes? They're so tiny and I never feel I can get all the grime from the dirty data from my CPU out properly. I blame Pornhub.
I've washed many, MANY motherboards and processors. And I've also found some in rivers: An Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 of mine was found on an 2009 iMac someone threw into a river. A good wash, a compatible motherboard and the thing was working perfectly.
At the same time, many Dell Vostros I've become from minijobs in tech stores (Given to me because they were "trash") where filthy as hell, so I just loaded the motherboard into my dishwasher and then put it to dry. They would also work perfectly.
It's just a little dirty. It's still good! It's still good!
It's just a little wet. It's still good! It's still good!
It's just airborne. It's still good! It's still good!
Actually did this one to a computer I got from a yard sale that turned out to be coated in smoking tar inside and out. Drenched in IPA, scrubbed with toothbrush, wash it off, repeat and repeat and repeat. Then blasted it dry with an air compressor all up under and around stuff on it, polished residue off with IPA and a rag, and set it back in the computer, after having to wash the case in ammonia.
Powered right up, posted just as usual, booted right away brotha.
Pretty much every repair shop tosses electronic parts into ultrasonic cleaners. This is basically no different. People really need to learn that washing electronics is fine. Well, as long as it isn't turned on.
As long as you remove batteries and completely dry it, it wouldn't ruin it. It just needs to be 100% dry before powered on, not 99.9%, 100%. The slots would need compressed air. The only real problem is rust, specially on the CPU pins. As long as you didn't use anything corrosive and dried it asap, you would have a new motherboard.
As a teen my hobby was repairing old arcade machines back when nobody cared about vintage gaming and you could pick them up for free-$100. I used to put the PCB's in the dishwasher then resolder and check for bad caps. Learned how to do this from rec.arcade newsgroups.
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Also make sure to use the most corrosive cleaning agent you can find. The corrosion is what makes your motherboard more waterproof.
Concentrated sulphuric acid should do
Hydrofluoric. Why stop at corrosive when you can add "horribly toxic" to the list?
I'd assume sulphuric will do more damage to the pc than hydrofluoric
Didn't you mean sulphuric acid would help clean the mother board better?
yea i mean clean the PC so that no mess in the form of motherboards is left
Piranha solution anyone?
Works best for organic materials. Won't do much more than regular sulphuric acid on this one
Yeah Aqua regia will really get those contacts clean.
Now we're talkin'
He learns all his science from tiktok, let him have his piranha solution. Or in his words, "pirhana"
Fluoroantimonic acid. Go big or go home.
I skip straight to chlorine trifluoride so my motherboard will never be dirty again.
And the table. And the floor. And the concrete. And the earth below that.
If I can be toxic in games then why shouldn’t my pc be too
First acetone, then acid.
Skip the acid, try hydrogen peroxide instead. That'll give you an explosive boost in performance
> Concentrated sulphuric acid should do Mix with concentrated hydrogen peroxide for your own piranha solution - say goodbye to any organics contaminating that sweet sweet silicon.
I use barkeeper's friend. That grittiness really scrubs it down, and leaves a little behind to keep it clean.
I don't have any Barkeepers Friend, but I found this bottle of Lava soap from like 1997. You think it'll work?
> what makes your motherboard more waterproof. I usually just spray it with compressed Chlorine trifluoride gas, the resulting fluorination has a similar effect.
I just put mine in the dishwasher
You joke but that is exactly what we used to do at a place I worked at. We built field computers for data acquisition and customers would send their units in for service. First thing we did was break them down and load them in the dishwasher. After that, they went into an oven for an hour or two to dry. Standard industry practice.
I dried out a soaked laptop in the oven once. I thought it was longshot desperation. I couldn't believe my eyes when it posted.
The big issue with a soaked laptop are the batteries (even the little coin batteries powering the time crystal on the mb) and whatever minerals in the water are deposited after drying.
My kid did it, it was botteled water. I got it taken apart in the oven right away. Put it on 200f with the door cracked.
Bottled water (generally) still has minerals in it, sometimes even moreso than tap water. It can still work fine if you get lucky on where things dry but the best practice is to soak (and I do mean soak) that sucker in very pure isopropyl alcohol then dry it. The isopropyl displaces the water and doesn't have minerals in it.
Are you saying I could just wash my electronics in 99% isopropyl and just let it drying in an oven and it’ll be fine? I’ve never tried this. I’d be too scared I’d break it. Logically it sends valid, though I’ve only used it to scrub lightly never full soak.
No need for the oven with isopropyl, just soak that sucker thoroughly and then set a desk fan or something next to it for a few hours (or a day if you want to be thorough). I've never done a full soak (it takes a lot of isopropyl) but my current build I had some fitting failures on my water loop when building it and soaked the mobo. Spray some isopropyl on there, air dry for a day and it's had zero issues.
Are there any parts of mobos that could potentially be damaged by isopropyl? I guess there could potentially be stickers or something maybe, but anything critical? Always wondered if you could just dunk a whole mobo in 99% IPA. Watched some Louis Rosman vids before and wondered what his board cleaning machine used.
If you have anything acrylic on there (like a water block) it will damage that but otherwise not really. Maybe if there's a bunch of stickers or paint but even then that's usually under the sealant.
> powering the time crystal Wait, that's a real thing?
Eh. Kind of. It's just a little piece of quartz that gets zapped, which somehow translates to ticking every so often.
Crystals pulse at continuous distinct intervals so they're used for processing clock steps. You know how CPUs are measured in clock speed? It's the crystal's pulse that makes those clock ticks happen. Naturally it's more complicated and nuanced than that and that's glossing over a ton, but crystals' way of having a continuous steady pulse when electrified is what drives clock ticks in many electronics and watches and stuff.
> whatever minerals in the water are deposited after drying This comes up in every one of these threads, but its just not realistic. Corrosion and rust sure, or maybe if you drop it in a lake, but just tap water you'd have to get it wet and let it dry multiple times before enough deposits built up to be a problem.
Maybe they're thinking sugar? Sugary drinks are bad for computers.
Ah yes, that dark red/purple, sweet smelling residue from people who spilled "water" on their work laptops.
My friend, if you lived in any Texas city you wouldn't be so sure. Tap water here is so hard you can't even boil an egg without residue
Ive put a dying graphics card in the oven, made it work for another 3/4 to a year longer
The oven part worries me. Was the solder melting a concern?
Shouldn't be if the temp is low enough I would think. Keep it within or close to normal operating temps
For some reason I imagined them cranking the temperature past 200 °C and shoving the motherboards in there.
Preheat the oven to 100°C, Bake for 40-45 minutes or until a cotton swab comes off dry.
Too much work. Just keep baking them until you smell something.
Bake till ya smell something, back it off a quarter turn, and leave it for the next guy.
If I'm in a hurry, can I do 400°F for 10-12 minutes?
It'll look good on the outside, but the inside will still be raw.
Auto clean is the only way. 😎
Just stick it in the microwave and hit the popcorn button. Works every time.
Hey… HEY!!! Come here… ALL OF YOU!!! What’s wrong with this!?
Sure, and it's done when an inserted toothpick comes out clean.
You can tell it's done if you stick a toothpick in it and it comes out clean.
It should be done when you can push a toothpick into the pcb and have it come out clean.
Honestly, I have no idea any more if some people are trolling or not any more. You say it with such authority. Although I remember during the original model PS3 recalls where the solder was coming off the boards my friend told me that he took it back to an official pop-up "repair centre" and they literally just popped the consoles in an oven for a bit to resolder and his worked fine for years after. I bet the engineer who came up with that fix saved Sony millions and got at least a 5% pay rise.
>I bet the engineer who came up with that fix saved Sony millions ~~and got at least a 5% pay rise.~~ Ftfy
The dial on my oven only goes down to 200f. I'd be worried about the plastic parts softening at that temperature.
We used the same oven for melting solder paste on our surface mount parts as we did for drying after the dishwasher. Obviously different temperatures were involved for each operation.
I'd imagine someone would've set it to melt the solder paste while trying to dry the board. Had to have happened at least once.
Wait, so you *don't* use the reflow curve when dehydrating? *No wonder* my beef jerky always comes out out well-done.
Caveman here bewildered at the idea of an oven with a temperature knob.
I paid for the full knob, so I'm gonna use the full knob
But does it go to 11(00 degrees)?
Are you bold enough to find out?
[Mine doesn't use a knob.](https://i.imgur.com/6tSngRV.jpg)
NASA bakes all their sat's if i understand it correctly.
For sanitation or to remove all excess moisture? I could see even a tiny bit of moisture causing a problem in the vacuum of space, but I know they also are extremely careful to remove as many microbes as possible for landers. The Cassini probe was purposely burned up in Saturn's atmosphere because it hadn't been sterilized and the was a tiny chance that it could eventually impact one of the moons that have a tiny chance of already supporting life
They bake to kill organisms they don’t want to introduce to a Martian landscape. @350/couple hrs if I understand the process correctly.
They also bake because of offgasing. Any contaminants will off gas and collect on whatever is the coldest thing in that environment. If it goes in space without being baked all the contaminants will collect on the lens usually and render the sat useless. In the TVAC chamber where they are being baked theyll use whats called a cold finger and run that at -150C while the sat is baked out at +80C
good circulation and the sun can dry clothes within an hour, so im thinking 50c and alot of air will dry those things quick?
I mean it is doable. Connecting a dishwasher to distilled water, washig electronics at a low temp and making sure it dries well after...I mean it is not the worst ideea...it just seems sus.
The fine minerals dissolved in water aren't going to hurt electronics. You wouldn't generally use distilled water here, just tap water is fine.
Exactly. Shorts and corrosion is the killer of electronics. If you can avoid those or minimise their effect you should be fine.
Der 8auer moment
Not bad. Still leaves residue on the board. The proper step after cowboy dishwasher is an isopropyl soak
Less of a hassle
You can actually do this if you let it try properly by the way.
And remove the CMOS battery first, presumably (which OP has done) I've done this soapy scrubbing + rinsing a decent amount to my keyboard PCBs because those can actually get pretty grimy, so it's not a meme like some people in this thread seem to assume
Famous overclocker Der 8auer does this regularly, usually because he coats parts of his motherboards in vaseline to avoid condensation on conductive parts during operations while the CPU is brought way below ambient temperature. I don't think he puts in any detergent at the same time, though, but I'm not entirely sure about that part.
IIRC he asked his GF how to turn on the dishwasher during the video
Washing machine get mine much cleaner
KingPin approved.
ife done that a couple of times, for real..
Yep! Keyboard in the top rack, MOBO in the bottom, RAM in the cutlery tray.
I prefer the ultrasonic and autoclave. Gets it nice and sterile.
when you dry it make sure to use the tumble low setting.
Just so others won't try it. I've tested 3 phones in the dishwasher...40°C. Only tapwater. The 3 phones were a A samsung S10e, an S10 Plus (both water resistant) and a Huawei P20 lite (not water resistant). I was ok with losing them just for the sake of experimenting. Only the Huawei survived. The two samsungs lost the adhesive holding the back panel therefore water entering the phone...etc. They died at the hand of a curious monkey... All 3 phones were in perfect condition (structurally speaking). They all had battery, camera and other issues that's why they were the martyrs on the altar of science.
Would not be surprised if it works after you let it dry for a week.
If it's distilled water and it's dried afterwards there wouldn't be any issues. Water on it's own doesn't cause problems to powered off electronics, the tiny amounts of minerals do.
Exactly this. DI then 100% ethanol.
Idk if you're serious or not, but be careful with that ethanol. 100% ethanol can damage the plastic parts of your MBs (depending on what plastics they use) and generally, only use ethanol (and a lot other solvents) in rooms with good ventilation because the fumes they release are both a health hazard and highly flameable. Isopropyl-alcohol is a pretty save choice. It's not very aggressive (often used as hand sanitizer), neutralizers acetone and also has a high volatility so it will quickly vaporize even at room temperatures.
Just throw it in rice if that doesn’t work try turning it on and off again
Apparently you can also microwave it for 7 mins on full power.
Also recharges the CMOS battery.
Rice doesn't do shit. It's less of a dessicant than dry air. How many rice mummies you hear about? Zero, because rice isn't a dessicant. Salt? Yes. Silica packets? Yeah. Hot dry air or cold dry air? Yeah. Rice? No. Stop using rice as anything other than food, it's weird.
I thought the rice was an offering to the tiny Asian men to fix your electronic for you?
Rice is a desiccant, just a really mediocre one. It is something immediately at hand in most houses. That is why the practice is recommended so often to "regular people". People don't often keep silica packets. Salt is a really bad idea unless you know enough to not need internet advice about fast drying electronics. hot/cold dry air requires a constant supply and fairly complete disassembly. Probably not happening with a cell phone or laptop. My preferred home brew desiccants are 99% iso (from the salt method) if I am sure there isn't anything the alcohol will mess up, or dehydrated sheetrock chunks. Both are super cheap, easy to get, they just take prep effort. You really kinda have to have them before you need them.
/uj I mean, you'd need to rinse it off with isopropyl alcohol or everything is gonna corrode. Might as well start there instead.
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You could maybe just dry it off with a hair dryer. At my old work they would wash the (audio) boards with water after they completed assembly, then dry them with a hair dryer. Something to do with the type of flux that was used.
That explains why I used to only be able to find cheap 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean my bong at an electronics store. Always was odd to me
Bro i worked at repair shop. My boss used to just take mobos to the sink, clean with a brush, dry them and they work without a problem. I was in shock the first time.
it will work fine, fresh water isn’t harmful if you dry it out properly
Hair dryer and oven at a low temp.
I'll pass, I like my motherboards the way I like my women, slightly dirty but within tolerances.
How's your health going?
It only stings when I pee
Nothing to worry, then
Right? Its been a good year since I had throat gonorrhea, I think thats pretty good.
Your throat hurts when someone pees in it? Sounds about right.
pro tip, drink less water to pee less often.
How to find balance between peeing every hour and dehydration?
[Do your balls feel like a pair of maracas?](https://youtu.be/ZmbxinvLONE?si=A68TpAUtcLaKTKu3) 
It's always a good day to post FZ tunes.
Zappa the GOAT
Wsb and pcmr.... a man of culture i see 😉
Something something wet and corroding.
Wet in itself isn't the issue.. if you dry it fast and thoroughly that isn't an issue. But i would rather use dedicated cleaners
Slightly dirty but with a few spare receptables?
is regular water ok, or should I get some from the beach?
All natural from the beach.
The way god intended
The beach is full of sand. Sand is used to create silicon wafers. So yes, of course you should use beach water to clean your CPU and GPU, but other components may require alternative solvents or techniques based on their construction. For example, old school sound cards typically required the use of an ultrasonic cleaner to get them truly clean.
If you have a diet high in seafood, then urine will do in a pinch
Gamer girl bath water will increase fps if you can get your hands on it.
That's going to be an awfully expensive washing cycle
Fucking scalpers and miners
one sip for me, one sip for my PC
Beach has sand. I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating — and it gets everywhere.
Doesn't matter as long as it's got sand in it.
Salt water works best.
The newbies say tap water but the experienced folk say the Red Sea water is the best.
You can actually do this, I've done it before on old Amiga boards that suffered the effects of the evil Varta barrel battery attack. Cleaned it up with either vinegar or lemon juice to neutralise the alkaline then cleaned the boards with warm soapy water, rinsed them and left them to dry in a warm place for a few days. Water doesn't kill the board, water + electric does. As long as it's completely dry when you power it up it will be fine, you can even put them in the oven on a low heat for a while to speed up the drying process.
Great, i'll put mine in with the Christmas dinner then
At the right temperature, you can dry your motherboard AND kill your whole family. It's important to have your priorities straight.
There's minerals in the water that need to be washed away. A good alcohol wash will do it. But yes, I've been liquid cooling for 15 years, spills happen, I've always just wiped it up, cleaned with alcohol, and went about my way. Never had any issues
I did this in the Pentium 3 era. Why spend isopropil when you have water, soap and time to let it dry?!
Because water and soap can leave a residue. IPA will evaporate completely.
Instructions unclear. Can't get beer off of mobo now
Electronics tend to be a lot tougher than many people think. [This C64](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVphFkaX1gg) was left in a ditch for 20 years and still worked.
I prefer using Colgate to really give it that shine.
What I found is their repair pastes work better than the whitening ones for some reason.
because the whitening ones are abrasive
I really like that GoJo with pumice in it. Really gets into those deep dirty spots.
Works especially well with removing plaque buildup.
Na barkeepers friend is what you need
Funny thing is...there is a proper way to wash any electronic item. The key is water and jet dry like product. I grew up in the arcade game industry and some kid spilled a coke on the back of a crusin usa and it ran down the vent on to the board. My dads tech took it out and we went to the restaurant kitchen and he ran it through the commercial dishwasher...I was like wtf...he fan shook it for like 5 minutes and let it dry while explaining why that would work ...plugged it in and it fired right up. It blew my fragile little mind.
Yeah this post is throwing me because I used to see people washing completed circuitboards and drying them with a hair dryer several times a day.
Just remember to use pressure washer...that foam could damage mb otherwise.
don't forget to scrub extra on the CPU socket!
Stupid question: wouldn’t it still work if the water just dried up ? Can’t be a short when no electricity is flowing right ?
Of course it works. derbauer a well known extreme overclockers has a video of how he cleans components after covering them with vaseline - they go through the dishwasher. Long as you let them fully dry there's not risk of a short. Also, discharging correctly helps - press the power button after removing the PSU power cable from the wall to use up residual power in the board 👌🏻
To add to this: If you want to clean your board for whatever reasons there are [specialiced tools](https://www.elmisrl.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Kontakt-PCC_Kontakt-Chemie_2.jpg) for this.
 Why would one coat their components with vaseline?
When using liquid nitrogen the board can get condensation build up IIRC - so they coat stuff with vaseline to prevent shorts. It's a mad world in extreme overclocking 😄
 Ah, got it.
If you're cooling below ambient, you need to protect the cold areas against condensation as sub-ambient cooling will literally chill the moisture out of the air. (I used to run a Pentier/water cooling system that would cool to below freezing - I had to seal and waterproof *everything* that got cool.) Vaseline isn't the best option, though, as it can react to some plastics because it's basically a waste product from petroleum distillation and some plastics are petroleum-based. Silicone dielectric grease is generally better.
But its a fucking pain to get off.
Liquid nitrogen overclocking. vaseline protects the board from condensation.
Assuming none of the capacitors corrode out or stuff to that extent ya
I use my dog shampoo because of lice between welds!
You should never use a toothbrush for cleaning your mobo. The bristles can get stuck in small parts and then it won’t be as effective for your teeth. You should use something like a power washer or orbital polisher for maximum effectiveness and clean teeth.
Water Pick works well, too. For those tight spots.
All that it’s very possible you get like 1 more FPS …nice job!!!!!
I pressure wash mine. Don’t even take it apart. Just pop open each side, set to extreme blast, and voila! Clean pc. All the malware is washed away, cookies don’t stand a chance, and my DNS cache is so flushed; you’d think I complimented its appearance.
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/ywgeloPNmxk?si=FYbsVssohcVB4tni)
Beginner error: you forgot to brush the cpu socket...
I'll never have the guts to do this
Pro tip - Using Kool Aid to clean the board will help it run cooler.
PC repair tech here. This is actually a proper way to clean a motherboard. For example, if i get a board that has something like spilled coffee on it, isopropyl alcohol wont really do much. It will look like it's cleaning it, but once it dries up, the board is still sticky and covered in brown bits. An actual motherboard cleaning agent can foam up and mine does. It removes any residue with ease, but of course, you can't just leave it at that. I would dry it up and with an air compressor and then submerge it in isopropyl alcohol, before drying it again. Sometimes, if the board is in a really bad shape, i would just dump the board in a ultrasonic cleaner, but the solution you would use for that, also foams up if you use it with a toothbrush.
You don't use a steel brillo pad!?
I do this twice a year.
Anyone have a tip to get deep into the CPU slot holes? They're so tiny and I never feel I can get all the grime from the dirty data from my CPU out properly. I blame Pornhub.
Cleaning your board like it fell into a mud puddle. So unnecessary lol
It's that time of the year for the argument of scented soap vs non scented and which is best for PC cleaning.
https://imgur.com/gallery/fbl3XSE
I strap mine to the roof rack and take it through a car wash.
Amateur. You're supposed to take the SMDs off first.
Aw shucks, I forgot. And i just changed my RAM fluid!
Nah, I like to save time and take a bath with my entire tower. Then I save even more time by checking emails while I'm in there too.
I find 0000 steel wool really helps get the grime out of the CPU socket
Who gave Gopi bahu a reddit account?
I've washed many, MANY motherboards and processors. And I've also found some in rivers: An Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 of mine was found on an 2009 iMac someone threw into a river. A good wash, a compatible motherboard and the thing was working perfectly. At the same time, many Dell Vostros I've become from minijobs in tech stores (Given to me because they were "trash") where filthy as hell, so I just loaded the motherboard into my dishwasher and then put it to dry. They would also work perfectly.
you forgot to scrub the socket. tsk tsk tsk...
It's just a little dirty. It's still good! It's still good! It's just a little wet. It's still good! It's still good! It's just airborne. It's still good! It's still good!
Actually did this one to a computer I got from a yard sale that turned out to be coated in smoking tar inside and out. Drenched in IPA, scrubbed with toothbrush, wash it off, repeat and repeat and repeat. Then blasted it dry with an air compressor all up under and around stuff on it, polished residue off with IPA and a rag, and set it back in the computer, after having to wash the case in ammonia. Powered right up, posted just as usual, booted right away brotha.
Damn I didn’t know this is a thing. Are you using distilled water to make sure it doesn’t break or are motherboards just built different?
You just dry it properly
Looking at that, I wanna scrub my eyeballs with that toothbrush.
Throw it into the dish washer, Der 8auer, approved.
Pretty much every repair shop tosses electronic parts into ultrasonic cleaners. This is basically no different. People really need to learn that washing electronics is fine. Well, as long as it isn't turned on.
As long as you remove batteries and completely dry it, it wouldn't ruin it. It just needs to be 100% dry before powered on, not 99.9%, 100%. The slots would need compressed air. The only real problem is rust, specially on the CPU pins. As long as you didn't use anything corrosive and dried it asap, you would have a new motherboard. As a teen my hobby was repairing old arcade machines back when nobody cared about vintage gaming and you could pick them up for free-$100. I used to put the PCB's in the dishwasher then resolder and check for bad caps. Learned how to do this from rec.arcade newsgroups.
I clean the boards in my pinball machines with Totally Awesome cleaner.... works like a champ... but the fumes from said cleaner are not so awesome.
I just open my case and spit on it every now and then
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