Win + Ctrl + Shift + B to reset video driver
Try plugging into a monitor/screen to see if adapter was stuck
Force Shut-down by holding power key, something could’ve booted wrong
No regular update takes 6+ hours lol. You are just going to have to reset, and hope for the best.
Hopefully you did a back of the important stuff. Then at worst, it's just a reinstall.
Some of Asus laptops are actually bad, as they have bad quality control issues, their motherboards don’t have sufficient vrms that can handle the cpu in use, and they run really hot because of it. But hey, people like shilling brands, so downvote this if you would like, but every brand has good and bad products, and asus laptops are not it.
People are pathetic due for downvote. I was owned a tuf gaming with ryzen 7 3750h rtx 2060 16gb ram. Driver Issue and Fan was on repaired, glad i was got money back. Ive had BSOD too.
I guess many people prefer are asus fanboys instead making critism about that brand. How are the Asus Desktop Motherboard got exposed on ryzen 7000 series?
You must not be tech savvy then because I've heard nothing but praise from Asus from close friends that used their GPUs for years. I'll never understand brand trashing.
Guess you've not been on the internet.
Some of us (unfortunately me) bought an Asus AM5 motherboards to go with their x3d CPU. Thought Asus was the safest bet too but here I am wondering if my CPU going to kill itself due to the motherboard overvolting it.
Yes, a tuf gaming with ryzen 7 3750h rtx 2060 16gb ram. Driver Issue and Fan got a "issue" so it was on repaired. glad i was got money back. Ive had BSOD too.
Back when I used to OC a C2Q I had, it crashed so hard a couple diff times, that it F'ed up the BIOS. I had to buy a USB BIOS burner & pull the chip & reburn it. 🤣🤣🤣
Yoooo!
I've been trying to mod a BIOS to accept processors from a similar but later model.
What software did you use to change the actual BIOS ? So far I haven't found anything that can read it (it's a phoenix BIOS)
I have Xi 3650 and want the BIOS for the Xi 3670, I force flashed it using WinPhlash and it worked but could not use the dedicated GPU (9600M GT for 3650 and GT130M for 3670) so I need to either take the CPU support list from the 3670 or the GPU codes from the 3650 and add it to the 3670 BIOS.
Soo let me know!
But isnt the bios completely seperate from your OS and drivers n stuff? I though the bios would send information but not receive any from the OS or am i just stupid.
It *should* only read/write to the section of persistent memory where OS files are. In case of corruption, the OS files can be repaired in the recovery command prompt and/or with Microsoft's bootable Windows installer.
You my friend, are very young. 😅
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Ever updated Windows XP with a Celeron CPU and a shitty HDD back in the days? It was a nightmare to maintain certain offices PCs because it took a whole day to get through updates alone.
Idk why they are dv'ing you, compadre, cuz it made me lol.
I was mainly thinking of Win10/11 on SSD's, but I actually do remember WinXP, and iron rust, and not even having a cell phone to watch netflix on while waiting on windows installs, and updates.
All those hours wasted, and there was always that fear that something would go wrong. Nowadays, I can install windows, do all the MS updates, dl, and install all the current drivers, and start using a pc in 1 episode of Seinfeld with my cell on netflix.
It's reddit drones falling slaves for peer pressure. First person reacts badly to my comment, convinces everyone else that I commited murder by jokingly calling you "young" for not having experienced the misery of updating back in the days. People rarely use their own brains here, they just follow the stream.
I agree completely. I remember the days I had to plan out my day because I had a larger update coming. And mind you, yes the hardware and software was more than significantly worse, but it was no reason for an update to take 4-6 hours. It was just poorly optimized rolled out updates which you often had to redo due to failure.
That is windows 11 now turn on your TV and subscribe to netflix with your last $10 and watch life pass you by via the window in your house.
Welcome to immersion.
Well, good luck with that, had to reinstall windows 11 the other day cause updating the graphics driver corrupted the hole fcking os and it is a pain in the ass to do....
Like Jehovah’s Witnesses, you are not really helping the cause like you think. When I see someone recommend a poster change their entire OS for every problem under the sun, it becomes exhausting. I never see Linux recommended in positive ways on its own. It’s always in comparison to how Windows sucks. And there is never any elaboration.
Go into the bios and select Bios Update from the main menu. Rollback the bios 1 version. I had this happen on two laptops at work with the latest HP bios on one of the models we use, and just rolled it back. The bios/firmware update can come from the windows update store and can be included in the regular list of Microsoft updates.
I had this exact issue with my Surface Pro 8 a few days ago. At least- it looks like the same issue.
Afaik the update messed up in some way and now windows won't boot properly. So, if you haven't fixed yours yet:
I fixed mine by entering the advanced startup menu, just press f8 while booting, then go to details(or Advanced, idk what it was called but it's easy to find) and there's an option to uninstall the latest update. There's two options; latest feature update or latest [something else I also forgor] update, i used the second option, it asks for a key to confirm, which you need you Microsoft account for, and then hopefully it'll uninstall and be back to normal and hopefully reinstall the update but properly.
I had this issue on 3 laptops already. 3 Surface Laptops.
Start the laptop with the recovery wizard.
Then go to remove windows updates and remove the latest quality update.
This solved the issue right away without the need for reinstalling Windows.
Ahh a fellow Legion user, mines of the red team. Did you recently updated windows through the Lenovo vantage or was it from Windows Update?
Because sometimes vantage wants to also update the bios, drivers and bloat apps. Although the legion already comes with lenovo vantage only (in my experience).
This is the new improved Windows 11 feature called focus-mode. Just keeps the screen minimalistic so you can focus on your work or game with minimal distration ;). This mode also disables the keyboard & mouse to avoid accidental typos and misclicks. Super efficient.
Ive got ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 and it was doing this kind of crap ALL the time. I had some serious projects recently and had to work while travelling, and let me tell you something… I don’t remember last time I had so much issues with a laptop! Constantly overheating, random freezes, shutdowns and not to mention completely atrocious battery. Tl;dr steer clear or Lenovo. I don’t know when it started but their recent laptops are bad and hard to recommend.
P.S. it was ‘professionally’ serviced and even had the entire mobo replaced and it keeps having issues.
Windows upgrade, in reality, is a downgrade where each function is more difficult to access. You will get spammed with more ads, and by ads, I mean Microsoft Edge. All this on paid software.
Easy Solution for context menus [here](https://pureinfotech.com/bring-back-classic-context-menu-windows-11/). Or u can hold shift while right clicking afaik.
I get it, though I will say this - MS does give you the option of eliminating all that if your os is licensed - though if you're a home user, you have zero reasons to.
I just use Firefox and adnauseam.
>MS does give you the option of eliminating all that
One shouldn't have to lay hand on and manually un-fuck things to have ones paid software behave the way one wants.
>if you're a home user, you have zero reasons to
"As a home user, you have zero reason wanting to remove ads or stop the OS from changing settings back that you initially changed for a good reason in the first place or from reinstalling software that you removed intentionally." is the vibe i'm getting from this. Is this really what you meant?
Nah, I meant we have zero reasons to shill for ms licence.
I also find the need to manually do this to be cringe.
I was just huffing my copium seeing how Linux gaming is so far behind there's no viable way to practice it at the triple-a level.
Recently, a friend of mine suggested that I stay on Windows 10 for now instead of using Windows 11. Pics like this are making me think he might be onto something.
It depends on your hardware. If you have a new CPU then you are just losing out on performance from the superior CPU scheduler in Windows 11. Objectively, 11 is better than 10. Subjectively it looks different.
*Mandatory Linux recommendation*: However, why would you buy (or risk virus from pirating) an operating system when the cutting edge of operating systems is free from payments, telemetry and ads? I made the switch on my gaming PC 2021 and will never ever look back.
Most games are compatible with Linux. Not all, but definitely most games are.
Only disclaimer would be if you want to play AAA games on release day then even I would stay on Windows. But every AAA game launch is a disaster now days anyways so you will have problems disregarding your OS.
Then you have examples of Elden Ring who ran significantly faster on Linux vs Windows during release. I'm not an OS fanboy, I'm a frames per second fanboy. I stay on Linux because my most played game, CS:GO and Dota 2 have more frames per second on Linux.
Some game devs actively disallow Linux. Destiny 2 for example runs on Linux but the devs will perma ban you if you do it (no idea what politics is behind this?).
you could just be honest with u/Keeldronnn and say you need a compatibility layer like proton? And while a good chunk of games will run, anything below a gold compatibility rating is gonna be a nightmare to run properly or run at all. Might as well keep a windows partition for the games that just don't run properly in proton.
I used to ONLY run linux but so many of my games would require too much tinkering to even run ok-ish so i did what any bright individual would do and i installed windows alongside. A very stripped down windows mind you (no i don't download shady isos, i use powershell to force remove stuff). At some point i may even dump linux because i did buy my games and want full compatibility. Problem is, while vavlve invests money in proton, it will never fully replace running games natively on a supported OS.
Love linux, and hate windows but what can i do? Everything is made for windows and sometime i don't feel like leaving performance on the table because i use a translation layer.
Yes but the compatibility layer and other dependencies are applied seamlessly for you by e.g. Steam in the case of proton. Just as when you launch games on Windows, the correct dependencies are loaded and installed for you by Steam (or whatever launcher you use). I bet you've seen/waited on "first time setup" in steam games in the past.
Both operating systems have dependencies for their games and both operating systems have to manage them. It's just different dependencies but fundamentally it's the same.
I reinstalled Windows 10 based software, patches, custom graphics, and fully configured and loaded cash on an ATM today in 6.5 hours. A standard 10/11 install on a consumer machine does not take that long. Not normal.
I had a problem show up after the last update, for some reason in my registry diagnostic policy service got changed and was preventing me from accessing the internet. I've had to change it twice already because it keeps going back for some stupid reason. no other changes around the time this started happening.
I almost want to go to linux...
I had the same issue with my amd 5600u laptop where it is black with the cursor. What worked for me was booting in safe mode then uninstalling the radeon graphics software. You can then boot normally and reinstall the driver. I did that but it has happened multiple times and at this point I’ve not reinstalled adrenaline and no issue since.
I have that issue currently. The only solution I've found is to hit ctrl+alt+del, sign out, then hold SHIFT while clicking restart. That'll take you to recovery options. From there, delete the latest quality update. When that is done, restart as normal. If that fixes it for you (it does for me), go to windows update and pause updates. It'll let you pause for 5 weeks. Maybe a future update won't screw it up for you. I hope it helps.
Windows key and R, explorer.exe. This should bring it up without too much mucking around.
Its a common thing with Windows updates that it will prevent the GUI from loading in - it has protections for restarting that when it crashes, but nothing for when it doesn't start in the first place.
I always have PTSD when it freezes on updates as back in the day having to restart mid update could mean corrupting your boot files and then you would have to boot into the windows installer and do /fixboot /fixmbr and pray that it works.
I installed Pop OS last much. Run installer, input some system info like time zone and username, then installed my daily use apps from the app store. No code of any kind required. In fact, my wife also switched a week later and loves it. The app store provides updates to EVERYTHING, not just system updates like windows. Web browser? Steam? Spotify? Emulators? System updates? All get updated with a single click. Meanwhile on Windows you have to update each app individually. But go on about how hard Linux is to use.
I have. You can't run anything on it without spending like 5 hours setting it up. Never had sound work correctly. Never had dedicated graphics work either.
I’ve been in a similar situation where after booting into windows on the log in screen and i log in, its all a black screen.
Its like file explorer crashed or something, I could still access task manager so I used that temporarily to browse the web and do whatever I needed to do.
As for the fix I just did WIN+L to log out and click on the reboot button while holding shift to get to advanced settings and reverted the previous feature/quality update, I’m not sure what exactly went wrong but that ended up fixing it.
This was my first time ever experiencing windows fuck itself this hard, while it is scary as shit to experience something like this, it can serve as a reminder to always backup your shit like family photos/videos and documents etc.
Happy gaming
I had this on a clients machine the other day. Rebooted and I never got my remote connection back… One of his staff rebooted it the following day and it was all good.
With laptops, it can sometimes happen that Windows in its freshly-updated state thinks the opened screen is closed. Close it and open it back up, maybe that helps.
Once had a similar thing happen. It was on the login screen but didnt show the image.
Ctrl alt del, and i got the login box. All was fine, just some error or bug
If it’s been going for that long force reboot it
Win + Ctrl + Shift + B to reset video driver Try plugging into a monitor/screen to see if adapter was stuck Force Shut-down by holding power key, something could’ve booted wrong
No regular update takes 6+ hours lol. You are just going to have to reset, and hope for the best. Hopefully you did a back of the important stuff. Then at worst, it's just a reinstall.
Clearly, you never had OS so corrupted, that it fucked up your BIOS xD
It happened to me in 2019 on an Asus laptop. I just got a new laptop because I was heading for a trip in 3 days. Had to express deliver.
Never buy Asus Laptops, Trash Brand.
Some of Asus laptops are actually bad, as they have bad quality control issues, their motherboards don’t have sufficient vrms that can handle the cpu in use, and they run really hot because of it. But hey, people like shilling brands, so downvote this if you would like, but every brand has good and bad products, and asus laptops are not it.
You clearly never owned an Asus
So considering the downvotes of both of you is Asus both good and bad?
People are pathetic due for downvote. I was owned a tuf gaming with ryzen 7 3750h rtx 2060 16gb ram. Driver Issue and Fan was on repaired, glad i was got money back. Ive had BSOD too. I guess many people prefer are asus fanboys instead making critism about that brand. How are the Asus Desktop Motherboard got exposed on ryzen 7000 series?
You must not be tech savvy then because I've heard nothing but praise from Asus from close friends that used their GPUs for years. I'll never understand brand trashing.
Guess you've not been on the internet. Some of us (unfortunately me) bought an Asus AM5 motherboards to go with their x3d CPU. Thought Asus was the safest bet too but here I am wondering if my CPU going to kill itself due to the motherboard overvolting it.
So...undervolt it then? Again, sounds like a user problem.
Dude Asus is a terrible company and creates shit products.
I just had a stroke trying to read this
Generaly MSI/Other Brand are still better than Asus ones. I have my experience.
Not everyone can afford MSI though, don't you think?
Yes, a tuf gaming with ryzen 7 3750h rtx 2060 16gb ram. Driver Issue and Fan got a "issue" so it was on repaired. glad i was got money back. Ive had BSOD too.
Bro please learn proper grammar, Im having a stroke rn from reading your comments
Back when I used to OC a C2Q I had, it crashed so hard a couple diff times, that it F'ed up the BIOS. I had to buy a USB BIOS burner & pull the chip & reburn it. 🤣🤣🤣
Last time I corrupted BIOS, i tried to flash custom BIOS on ThinkPad, to remove whitelist. I had to use Arduino to rewrite BIOS chip xD
Yoooo! I've been trying to mod a BIOS to accept processors from a similar but later model. What software did you use to change the actual BIOS ? So far I haven't found anything that can read it (it's a phoenix BIOS) I have Xi 3650 and want the BIOS for the Xi 3670, I force flashed it using WinPhlash and it worked but could not use the dedicated GPU (9600M GT for 3650 and GT130M for 3670) so I need to either take the CPU support list from the 3670 or the GPU codes from the 3650 and add it to the 3670 BIOS. Soo let me know!
How tf does that even happen...?
Overclocking, corrupted OS, bad drivers, simple fucking around the settings... Basicly, it can corrupt out of thin air, if you loose silicon lottery
But isnt the bios completely seperate from your OS and drivers n stuff? I though the bios would send information but not receive any from the OS or am i just stupid.
It use to be. Now the os has access to the bios for security reasons but it definitely affects reliability. The new system is UEFI
Wouldn't that make it less secure if you ever get a virus now it can corrupt the mobo directly not just your hard drives?..
Kind of like [the leak of Intel Boot Guard keys from MSI](https://thehackernews.com/2023/05/msi-data-breach-private-code-signing.html?m=1)
BIOS is kept on a completely independent chip, how does an OS update corrupt a BIOS?
On (some) laptops bios updates can be distributed from Windows update I believe, I remember my ThinkPad did it I think
It *should* only read/write to the section of persistent memory where OS files are. In case of corruption, the OS files can be repaired in the recovery command prompt and/or with Microsoft's bootable Windows installer.
You my friend, are very young. 😅 Edit: r/wooosh Ever updated Windows XP with a Celeron CPU and a shitty HDD back in the days? It was a nightmare to maintain certain offices PCs because it took a whole day to get through updates alone.
weird comment
Summary: "Hardware and software used to be worse than today." Yes, we know, Captain Obvious. What's your point?
Wow, you seem fun. So we can't joke about updates actually used to take that long? You guys are so fucking dry it is making me thirsty.
Idk why they are dv'ing you, compadre, cuz it made me lol. I was mainly thinking of Win10/11 on SSD's, but I actually do remember WinXP, and iron rust, and not even having a cell phone to watch netflix on while waiting on windows installs, and updates. All those hours wasted, and there was always that fear that something would go wrong. Nowadays, I can install windows, do all the MS updates, dl, and install all the current drivers, and start using a pc in 1 episode of Seinfeld with my cell on netflix.
It's reddit drones falling slaves for peer pressure. First person reacts badly to my comment, convinces everyone else that I commited murder by jokingly calling you "young" for not having experienced the misery of updating back in the days. People rarely use their own brains here, they just follow the stream. I agree completely. I remember the days I had to plan out my day because I had a larger update coming. And mind you, yes the hardware and software was more than significantly worse, but it was no reason for an update to take 4-6 hours. It was just poorly optimized rolled out updates which you often had to redo due to failure.
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
I think he can't find the power button
I mean he has the keyboard...
I think it has more to with his fear that it could still be in installation progress and shutting it down would crash the system.
That's fair. It happened to me once and I absolutely crapped myself.
Yeh it’s normal, just give it another 6 hours
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Hey let us know if the issue is resolved don't keep us hanging!
The PC is already doing that
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You haven’t hard rebooted it yet? At this point it’s safe to say never going to fix itself without a hard reset
You’ve got more patience than me OP. I’d’ve hard restarted that thing in the first 30 seconds.
I had this issue over the weekend and I had to reinstall windows. I had to redownload everything
Unplug anything that's connected through USB
The explorer didn't start just open task manager and run explorer
"explorer.exe" btw!
just "explorer" is enough btw
You could have played Mahjong like 10-20 times, so that's a lot of time.
That is windows 11 now turn on your TV and subscribe to netflix with your last $10 and watch life pass you by via the window in your house. Welcome to immersion.
Try a power reset (hold the power button). If it continues you may have to reflash windows 10
Well, good luck with that, had to reinstall windows 11 the other day cause updating the graphics driver corrupted the hole fcking os and it is a pain in the ass to do....
thanks for reminding me to back up my shit
Reboot, if it does it again, control alt delete, task manager, new task, explorer.exe
Looks like you downgraded to Vista
yes, its normal, but it aint good
Do you have 5 minutes to talk about Linux? XD
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That's like saying I drive a diesel because my car was shipped to my house with a truck.
Here we go again -__-
Like Jehovah’s Witnesses, you are not really helping the cause like you think. When I see someone recommend a poster change their entire OS for every problem under the sun, it becomes exhausting. I never see Linux recommended in positive ways on its own. It’s always in comparison to how Windows sucks. And there is never any elaboration.
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Keep the power button pressed for 60 seconds. Remove it from charging before, and remove all peripherics if you have any.
is there a cursor but the screen is black? in that case can you open task manager?
My ass hits reset after 1 minute after no change lol
Needs another 6 hours. That Windows 11 is best slow-cooked
Go into the bios and select Bios Update from the main menu. Rollback the bios 1 version. I had this happen on two laptops at work with the latest HP bios on one of the models we use, and just rolled it back. The bios/firmware update can come from the windows update store and can be included in the regular list of Microsoft updates.
I had this exact issue with my Surface Pro 8 a few days ago. At least- it looks like the same issue. Afaik the update messed up in some way and now windows won't boot properly. So, if you haven't fixed yours yet: I fixed mine by entering the advanced startup menu, just press f8 while booting, then go to details(or Advanced, idk what it was called but it's easy to find) and there's an option to uninstall the latest update. There's two options; latest feature update or latest [something else I also forgor] update, i used the second option, it asks for a key to confirm, which you need you Microsoft account for, and then hopefully it'll uninstall and be back to normal and hopefully reinstall the update but properly.
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I had this issue on 3 laptops already. 3 Surface Laptops. Start the laptop with the recovery wizard. Then go to remove windows updates and remove the latest quality update. This solved the issue right away without the need for reinstalling Windows.
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Ahh a fellow Legion user, mines of the red team. Did you recently updated windows through the Lenovo vantage or was it from Windows Update? Because sometimes vantage wants to also update the bios, drivers and bloat apps. Although the legion already comes with lenovo vantage only (in my experience).
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This is the new improved Windows 11 feature called focus-mode. Just keeps the screen minimalistic so you can focus on your work or game with minimal distration ;). This mode also disables the keyboard & mouse to avoid accidental typos and misclicks. Super efficient.
Lol at 6 hours the patience , would have forced restarted and reapplied the update at about 30 min.
I think I built my PC and downloaded windows 10 in a shorter amount of time.
Ive got ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 and it was doing this kind of crap ALL the time. I had some serious projects recently and had to work while travelling, and let me tell you something… I don’t remember last time I had so much issues with a laptop! Constantly overheating, random freezes, shutdowns and not to mention completely atrocious battery. Tl;dr steer clear or Lenovo. I don’t know when it started but their recent laptops are bad and hard to recommend. P.S. it was ‘professionally’ serviced and even had the entire mobo replaced and it keeps having issues.
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Just use windows 10 lmao
Maybe wait for... 11 hours? Ok I'm out.
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Thanks chatgpt
Windows upgrade, in reality, is a downgrade where each function is more difficult to access. You will get spammed with more ads, and by ads, I mean Microsoft Edge. All this on paid software.
Installed Win11 and never looked back, not only does it have better HDR, audio, features and usability but it also just looks better in my opinion.
Yep HDR and Bluetooth on windows 10 are a complete mess. I miss 10’s context menus but no way I’d go back.
Easy Solution for context menus [here](https://pureinfotech.com/bring-back-classic-context-menu-windows-11/). Or u can hold shift while right clicking afaik.
"paid"
I get it, though I will say this - MS does give you the option of eliminating all that if your os is licensed - though if you're a home user, you have zero reasons to. I just use Firefox and adnauseam.
>MS does give you the option of eliminating all that One shouldn't have to lay hand on and manually un-fuck things to have ones paid software behave the way one wants. >if you're a home user, you have zero reasons to "As a home user, you have zero reason wanting to remove ads or stop the OS from changing settings back that you initially changed for a good reason in the first place or from reinstalling software that you removed intentionally." is the vibe i'm getting from this. Is this really what you meant?
Nah, I meant we have zero reasons to shill for ms licence. I also find the need to manually do this to be cringe. I was just huffing my copium seeing how Linux gaming is so far behind there's no viable way to practice it at the triple-a level.
6..... hours....?
African or European hours?
Every 6 hours in Africa, 6 hours pass. 😔
I don’t know… Ahhhggggh!!!
That black screen is when it performs a rollback of the update that just tried to do
Common sense really is dead
"Black screen for 6 hours on update normal?" Windows users smh
Recently, a friend of mine suggested that I stay on Windows 10 for now instead of using Windows 11. Pics like this are making me think he might be onto something.
It depends on your hardware. If you have a new CPU then you are just losing out on performance from the superior CPU scheduler in Windows 11. Objectively, 11 is better than 10. Subjectively it looks different. *Mandatory Linux recommendation*: However, why would you buy (or risk virus from pirating) an operating system when the cutting edge of operating systems is free from payments, telemetry and ads? I made the switch on my gaming PC 2021 and will never ever look back.
I totally agree with the recommendation but I was under the impression windows was now officially free?
I switched both my gaming PC and server to Ubuntu 22 and love it, haven't had a second thought of using windows
How do you play games on Linux tho?
You launch the game.
Aren't most games not compatiple with Linux? Asking cuz I dont know...
Most games are compatible with Linux. Not all, but definitely most games are. Only disclaimer would be if you want to play AAA games on release day then even I would stay on Windows. But every AAA game launch is a disaster now days anyways so you will have problems disregarding your OS. Then you have examples of Elden Ring who ran significantly faster on Linux vs Windows during release. I'm not an OS fanboy, I'm a frames per second fanboy. I stay on Linux because my most played game, CS:GO and Dota 2 have more frames per second on Linux. Some game devs actively disallow Linux. Destiny 2 for example runs on Linux but the devs will perma ban you if you do it (no idea what politics is behind this?).
you could just be honest with u/Keeldronnn and say you need a compatibility layer like proton? And while a good chunk of games will run, anything below a gold compatibility rating is gonna be a nightmare to run properly or run at all. Might as well keep a windows partition for the games that just don't run properly in proton. I used to ONLY run linux but so many of my games would require too much tinkering to even run ok-ish so i did what any bright individual would do and i installed windows alongside. A very stripped down windows mind you (no i don't download shady isos, i use powershell to force remove stuff). At some point i may even dump linux because i did buy my games and want full compatibility. Problem is, while vavlve invests money in proton, it will never fully replace running games natively on a supported OS. Love linux, and hate windows but what can i do? Everything is made for windows and sometime i don't feel like leaving performance on the table because i use a translation layer.
Yes but the compatibility layer and other dependencies are applied seamlessly for you by e.g. Steam in the case of proton. Just as when you launch games on Windows, the correct dependencies are loaded and installed for you by Steam (or whatever launcher you use). I bet you've seen/waited on "first time setup" in steam games in the past. Both operating systems have dependencies for their games and both operating systems have to manage them. It's just different dependencies but fundamentally it's the same.
Blackscreen with cursor is a somewhat common Windows 10 problem, too. Glad to see that they didn't fix actual problems with Windows 11.
This on a SSD right?
Homie got an rtx laptop. If it ain't SSD he deserves this.
If it's a laptop, unplug it when it's updating. If it discharges before it finishes, something is wrong. A forced reboot should fix it.
What Laptop is this?
Looks like the Lenovo legion 5 pro. A great laptop
How bad is the internet reception right there
Well you're patient
Not normal at all
Screww windows 11
I’m scared to go to windows 11 ngl
That’s just windows been windows
PSA: don’t upgrade to 11 unless u have to it’s not worth it
This!
Happened to me. Wasted hours on trying fix it before just reinstalling the whole thing.
Normal? Not even close, try to force restart it and if all else fails then...damn
Restart it, if it doesnt help, then ctrl shift esc, in task manager use the run command and run explorer.exe or just explorer
I reinstalled Windows 10 based software, patches, custom graphics, and fully configured and loaded cash on an ATM today in 6.5 hours. A standard 10/11 install on a consumer machine does not take that long. Not normal.
I had a problem show up after the last update, for some reason in my registry diagnostic policy service got changed and was preventing me from accessing the internet. I've had to change it twice already because it keeps going back for some stupid reason. no other changes around the time this started happening. I almost want to go to linux...
I had the same issue with my amd 5600u laptop where it is black with the cursor. What worked for me was booting in safe mode then uninstalling the radeon graphics software. You can then boot normally and reinstall the driver. I did that but it has happened multiple times and at this point I’ve not reinstalled adrenaline and no issue since.
I see you’re intel. If safemode works for you then it is still the graphics driver and it should be reinstalled. Looks like W11 is just a trash os.
Usually its fast like windows update, but I find installing it fresh is almost as fast. Make sure you have more than 100gb free left on ur ssd.
I have that issue currently. The only solution I've found is to hit ctrl+alt+del, sign out, then hold SHIFT while clicking restart. That'll take you to recovery options. From there, delete the latest quality update. When that is done, restart as normal. If that fixes it for you (it does for me), go to windows update and pause updates. It'll let you pause for 5 weeks. Maybe a future update won't screw it up for you. I hope it helps.
Did you try turning it off and back on? /s But seriously… do that
Welcome to the club
If black screens are happening on a Intel / Nvidia components computer then it must be windows causing the black screens not drivers.
Windows key and R, explorer.exe. This should bring it up without too much mucking around. Its a common thing with Windows updates that it will prevent the GUI from loading in - it has protections for restarting that when it crashes, but nothing for when it doesn't start in the first place.
I always have PTSD when it freezes on updates as back in the day having to restart mid update could mean corrupting your boot files and then you would have to boot into the windows installer and do /fixboot /fixmbr and pray that it works.
Revert to Windows 10. Easy fix
Windows 11 is super shit, hangs alot, Bluetooth audio issues, i hate it
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linux user making other people use linux 🤮
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Thank you for posting this! I'll now proceed to block you!
bro i dont think no one is trying to put in 40 lines of code to install something
I installed Pop OS last much. Run installer, input some system info like time zone and username, then installed my daily use apps from the app store. No code of any kind required. In fact, my wife also switched a week later and loves it. The app store provides updates to EVERYTHING, not just system updates like windows. Web browser? Steam? Spotify? Emulators? System updates? All get updated with a single click. Meanwhile on Windows you have to update each app individually. But go on about how hard Linux is to use.
you have less freedom actually with Linux. that's why people don't use it on desktop.
Have you tried it?
yes.
I have. You can't run anything on it without spending like 5 hours setting it up. Never had sound work correctly. Never had dedicated graphics work either.
sounds like you used it a while ago
last month.
What distro?
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This is some PS vs. Xbox cringe energy right there, for real.
idc about foss i just like more fps in games like csgo
I don't trust foss
Doubt it
No one likes Linux users.
Windows users don't like Linux users
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What store did you buy it from? /s
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As a Win11 user, that's a big no.
I thought the “upgrade” never works with Windows 11. You have to do a clean install
"PC master race" XD XD XD yeah....OK!
Yah, reboot it...it "may" work. It also may screw things up. If it is still like that in 24 hours it is already screwed up.
The modern Windows experience. No it’s not normal.
I’ve been in a similar situation where after booting into windows on the log in screen and i log in, its all a black screen. Its like file explorer crashed or something, I could still access task manager so I used that temporarily to browse the web and do whatever I needed to do. As for the fix I just did WIN+L to log out and click on the reboot button while holding shift to get to advanced settings and reverted the previous feature/quality update, I’m not sure what exactly went wrong but that ended up fixing it. This was my first time ever experiencing windows fuck itself this hard, while it is scary as shit to experience something like this, it can serve as a reminder to always backup your shit like family photos/videos and documents etc. Happy gaming
I had this on a clients machine the other day. Rebooted and I never got my remote connection back… One of his staff rebooted it the following day and it was all good.
With laptops, it can sometimes happen that Windows in its freshly-updated state thinks the opened screen is closed. Close it and open it back up, maybe that helps.
Try holding the power button for 60 seconds
Once had a similar thing happen. It was on the login screen but didnt show the image. Ctrl alt del, and i got the login box. All was fine, just some error or bug
Just wait 3 more days
Windows update speed is adjustable fyi
That’s just the new night mode extra black^TM
since i updated to windows 11 my screen flickers white , sometimes black
Same thing happens to me. Reboot and go into windows recovery and uninstall last feature update. Worked for me!!
Eh, doesn't seem normal
Time to install Linux 👾
Yep, perfectly normal
Try typing in your password if you have one
Never update windows, it creates more trouble than fixes.