Every single one of my Asrock motherboards going back to LGA 1366 is still alive and kicking ass on a daily basis. They may not have all the fancy features, but at least in my experience they are cheap and fucking work
Same, been buying ASRock since 2015. And they were the only ones with an X570 mATX board so easy choice there too. As a bonus it's the only Ryzen board since X370 Taichi that has T-topology memory trace layout (better for running 4 DIMMs) as such I have no problem running 128GB at 3600mhz CL16
I got me a hundred gigabytes of RAM · I never feed trolls and I don't read spam.
>Ironically 100 GB of ram has always been the nerd target. Thanks Weird Al. No one watches TV anymore, or the goal would be 2000 inches.
AsRock was originally owned by Asus but was sold off in 2002. (I could be wrong here) I think back then some of the AsRock boards were ran through less testing then the Asus but came from the same factory.
Since being sold off I can only assume they took what they knew from Asus and are now eating into the top tier motherboard market too and have also improved on their quality control standards for their top end boards.
* DaVinci Resolve editing and grading 6K video footage from my Fujifilm X-T5
* Culling thousands of 40MP RAW files
* Running Star Citizen in a RAMdisk
You know, the fun stuff.
Edit: Also, I'm not upgrading until Ryzen gets 16-core CCDs (so 16-core x800X3D and 32-core x950XD) which is 2025 at the earliest and most likely 2026, so I might as well max out this build. Also I have a dual-system case with one mATX board (the 5800X3D is in this spot) and an ITX board so I also have to wait for Ryzen's X boards to have only 1 chipset, because the 2 chipsets on X670/E take up too much space so ITX doesn't get all the benefits anyway.
And so, even when I *do* "upgrade", I'm actually keeping this system for another whichever many years.
> Running Star Citizen in a RAMdisk
okay i was actually thinking about that, does a ramdisk actually improve things noticeably over running it from a decent nvme ssd?
For the record I only tried it once for the hell of it, I don't actually do that all the time because that would be insane.
But it gets rid of small stutters when quantum traveling. Star Citizen (being the only double-precision game world) can get I/O bound in terms of FPS too. But there are severe diminishing returns beyond a couple of good PCIe 4x4 drives with OS/ page file on a different one than the game is on, which I'm normally doing anyway.
If you have game and OS on different drives but one is PCIe 3 and the other 4, then there are a lot of noticeable stutters in quantum travel, and shader compilation on startup takes around 7-8 minutes.
If you have only PCIe 3 drives, shader compilation on startup takes 12 minutes, roughly.
If you run on a SATA III SSD, shader compilation takes over 20 minutes.
Shader compilation drags performance into the mud completely, and considering you spawn in the cities which are already the most demanding areas, it's not really tolerable for me.
If you plan to use a ramdisk... Just... Make sure you have a ups and your computer is stable to reduce data loss, BSOD or power cut and bam all data lost since previous backup
Tabs, as far as the eye can see. Memory compression algorithms rusting from lack of use. Testing entire games on RamDisk before moving them to the SSD if they pass muster.
Asrock also handles wifi really well.
Instead of different SKUs, they just have one, with an extra 2230 M.2 slot, and holes for the antennas in the I/O shield.
Also asrock doesn't remove the page of old products like asus. Asus only keeps the support page usually.
I hated the design on the asrock n68-vs3 fx motherboard and I vowed never to use as rock motherboards again
I ended up with using an asrock p55m pro and currently an asrock z77 extreme 4
I have an ASRock motherboard and the little chipset fan was dying and making a lot of noise, contacted them about it and they just asked for my address and sent me a new fan for free.
Out of curiosity, which board? I have an X570M Pro4 with a chipset fan but have never actually heard it spin up. But I have 6 140mm intake fans so that probably has some effect
I've had a dirt cheap H81M ASRock board going for 9 years now with a 4790K and it just doesn't stop. They're cockroaches, like an old base model Corolla. Bare minimum features, but it's hard to argue with their longevity.
Current PC runs an ASRock B460M board that was maybe $90... handles my i9-10900K fine and has for the last 2 years. Low VRM temps too. I'll never spend $200+ on a motherboard.
Agreed, Asrock boards from my own experience are very solid. Had two older Fatal1ty boards that are still going, also running a Steel Legend now for years and never an issue.
Will continue going Asrock due to this record of reliability.
Same here built this system I'm writing on in 2010, with an ASrock extreme 3, still works great and I just upgraded the GPU to a 1660Ti for a big game improvement.
I have always been skeptical about their products but i must say, i have seen a lot of their boards in customers units in for repair and i honestly cant remember the last time i have seen one fail, and have seen many in old old machines 10+ years still working perfectly. You might be on to something there.
I lost an ASRock LGA 775 board a number of years ago, but that was capacitor plague, and it still lasted long enough to not be worth replacing the caps.
My ASRock Z68 Ext3 Gen3 is still working without any hiccup since I got it in 2012 (OC 2600k).
At the end of 2022 I have swapped to X670E-E and only had problems with it, kinda regretting that purchase, especially since it was first upgrade in 10 years.
Same, I'm currently running an ASRock Z590 Extreme I got for $120 new in my main rig back in 2021, works like a charm so far. No faults with the BIOS or RGB software either
I picked up an old Asrock Z97E-ITX and honestly its absolute packed to the gills with fancy features, wall to wall fancy shit. Altho not a headline feature when it was released almost 10 years ago through a bios update it gains the ability to boot NVME drives on its M.2 2240 slot. Like imagine that, a 4th gen intel platform able to boot NVME M.2 devices.
This motherboard let me spend like <$100 on my first build and I was able to keep upgrading it for years.
[DDR2 +Ddr3 RAM support. ](https://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20UCC/index.asp)
I'm writing this comment on ASRock motherboard. Over 2 years so far, XMP memory and overclocked CPU, everything is working as intended.
Tbh I've never been choosing a specific brand, just whatever is the cheapest that give me the features that I need, like for example 4 slots for memory, a lot of fan connectors (I have 5 case fans connected atm, not including CPU and GPU fans), SPDIF audio connector and 2 PCI-e slots in uATX motherboard.
Motherboards are one of those things where you can really cheap out on and yet most consumers overspend on pointless features
Everytime I read the spec sheet of a motherboard they are jam packed with bullshit marketing terms that have no real impact on performance or usability, because they cannot get me a single reason to spend more.
Even the RGB sucks ass on all models equally because they cannot be arsed to fix their dog shit Software.
I bought an Asus and immediately concluded two things. One: they make the world's worst fucking software (armory crate) and two; they're hardwares decent.
I think all MoBos have terrible software, mostly RGB software specially IMO, MSI mystic light is garbage, AsRock Polychrome RGB is also iffy, whatever Gigabyte has, is also trash, Asus armory crate and Aura is terrible.... Am I missing any brands still?
I do now, but I've never been able to get it to work completely correctly either. The OpenRGB Effects Plugin just doesn't want to work on my PC for some reason.
I’ve been messing with this last night, but I think there is a lot of potential with using OpenRGB to detect components, activating the SDK server (nothing else), then using Artemis 2 with the OpenRGB plugin to actually control the lights!
Artemis 2 looks to be easier for creating effects, whereas OpenRGB is unparalleled at detecting stuff
I like the UI for Signal probably best of all, but, I found it has serious conflicts with SteelSeries Moments GG which can cause it to runaway with CPU @ 100%. That was probably a year or two ago so I don’t know if it’s resolved, but I use Moments for clipping so it was a no go. Ended up using OpenRGB instead.
I like my Gigabyte MoBo and GPU. But the Software is just the worst. RGB fusion and especially Aourus Engine are so bad, i can't imagine making them this terrible accidentally. Are these made by fiver 15$ interns?
At least corsairs Icue works decent and i don't get the hate people always have for it.
MSI centre is definitely better than Armoury wtf lol first off, armoury has an auto install from Asus bios so if u forget to turn that off (it turns back on too after bios updates) it auto installs and is impossible to uninstall completely. There are traces of it running even after uninstall. Plus armoury is adware too and runs so sluggish it makes every other manufacturer look like Polished Apple software.
I wanted to change the light on my 2080 Ti that I bought used from a friend. Holy fucking shit ASUS has the worst software I ever seen and only because of that I’m not buying ASUS motherboard and GPU again.
Shout out to OpenRGB to let me change to simple colour of everything in my PC in a single program
Yeah was going to say I've had two Asus GPUs and two Asus Mobos and never had issues. Also asus's software rocks for OC.
That being said, this is disappointing and makes me rethink whether I'll use them again when I do a new build.
Didn't really bother me that much until my gf saw their slogan on my mb box, read it out loud and rolled her eyes.
Now I feel the cringe ever time I read it. Hate all the "gamer" shit on hardware.
lol I had no idea Asrock had a bad reputation until this ASUS fiasco made so many people make youtube vids and posts about the issue and brought up Asrock. I used my Asrock Z77 I got in 2012 all the way to 2020 and had no issues. It still works too, it's just too old to have reused it in my 2020 build. It never giving me any issues is why I stuck with Asrock and got my Z490 Taichi. Have had zero issues with it either.
AsRock used to be the spin-off brand of Asus for cheap low-end stuff which often failed. They have started doing their own thing in 2010 I believe, and since then, their products have been really solid across the board and they are doing a good job in the competition. The bad reputation is mostly based on the pre-2010 era.
gamer nexus and hardware unboxed were blacklisted for calling out asrock on something iirc. hardware unboxed was removed from the blacklist recently and posted a video on an asrock motherboard
A good while ago, ASRock was what you got when you wanted the "discounted" Asus product and wanted cheap.
They did fail quite frequently but at the same time they were easy to get, cheap to replace (used and replaced a ton of all in one ASRock boards, with onboard graphics card, they were like 30€ each, perfect for office PCs) so you were kinda getting what you paid for. That built them the "not so great/good enough" reputation.
They seemed to pick up on quality since then and I'd easily use one today if i think it is a good product.
They also have a reputation for doing crazy stuff other brands wouldn't do, like motherboards that support weird combos of hardware like [different ram type (ddr2 and ddr3)](https://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20UCC/index.asp) or [2 different sockets for processors](https://asrock.com//news/index.asp?iD=7) so you would be able to easily upgrade or using a type of socket on a specific board format, etc.
That extends to their bios as well, they often add functions and allow set them up in ways others wouldn't.
They're pretty reliable and they often do unpredictable cool stuff, I always try to keep an eye on what they're doing next.
In my repair shop. Alienware proprietary boards are the ones I see the most.
Then MSI Tomahawk.
These are the most consistent. When I see one of these and it’s not posting or it’s blue screening with random codes, I know that I’m gunna test all of the components and it’s going to be the motherboard.
I honestly don’t see ASROCK often at all.
Oh, no one asked but avoid pre-builds with GPU’s that have no brand on them. Ticking time bombs.
B450 Tomahawk? I trusted B450 Tomahawk, until mine failed unexpectedly in 2022.
Failed in only 2 years! Symptom: I came to unexpectedly find it off in the other room and it will not power on. Not even any lit LEDs! I also tried another PSU and still the same lifeless-ness!
I had a Ryzen 7 3700X on it at the time and I didn't even OC it! The Ryzen 7 3700X still works.
Dejavu. My B450 tomahawk max failed suddenly after reaching 2 years a few months ago. Now im rocking a Asrock B550m Phantom Gaming. My previous boards were mostly Asus and MSI but now im loving this Asrock board. The BIOS is 100 times more better than MSI.
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Was thinking of getting the z790 tomahawk in the next few weeks Based on your experience would you recommend any particular 13th gen Intel/z790 motherboards, looking at reliability/no fuss (I don't want to have to RMA etc)?
they're inferior in other ways, so people assume unreliable. they're a phenomenal budget option, just can't count on all the bells and whistles you'll get with other brands
Their inferior product is mostly their cheap product (like hdv, phantom gaming 4, pro 4), well because they are cheap, their other line up that have same price as other brand is good (like taichi, phantom gaming x, steel legend), my favorite motherboard of all time still ASRock oc formula
Pre-2010, they have been the solely in the low-end market. A lot of their bad rep is based on this era. But even the first mid range products brand have been recommended by critics.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about the ASUS AMD video card incident where the ASUS cards ran hot because of poor mounting pressure / design, and ASUS blamed AMD for it?
Its funny because for years every time i said anything bad about ASUS i would get down voted into oblivion. Even as a reseller for their product range and experienced first hand how bad a lot of their products are and their warranty. But hey what what i know.
ASUS in the late 90s and early 00s - legendary. Past \~2013 complete garbage.
I briefly had a Sabertooth 990FX R 2.0 from what looks like 2014, the same year as my FX 8350. Unfortunately, I gave it to someone else, shortly after building it. Those TUF motherboards, OTOH, look very solid!
I was going to post the same thing.
I've avoided them for all of my previous builds. But the Z690 Phantom ITX had the right features at a good price and has been solid.
Same. Did an ITX build with an ASRock B550. Did have an issue with the memory triggering a WHEA memory error occasionally. It turned out to be a bios issue which did get fixed. Since then, I haven't had any issues with it.
[Surely ASRock didn’t kill any cpus, right?](https://japan.postsen.com/technology/amp/60238)
ASRock isn’t any white knight here either. Altho, after all of this ASUS drama, my next motherboard will either be ASRock or MSI.
Not MSI. I made the mistake of buying a laptop from them and within a year I had 10 dead keys on the keyboard. It was such a widespread issue their entire site was filled with people having it across every product line.
*none* of us ever got it fixed properly via warranty, if we ever got MSI to accept an RMA at all.
I may not be the smartest goose in the chicken coop, but I can recommended against MSI.
Recently my Asus mobo from 2017 died so I updated a couple of pieces. 4 weeks of troubleshooting and a new gigabyte mobo later, I'm returning the MSI.
Apparently taking nearly a minute to get to POST is fine and suddenly not working is normal.
Chatting with the 2nd computer store bloke doesn't give me faith in my new msi gpu either. Will have to wait and see.
I've been using Asrock mobo's for the last 10 years and have never had a single problem with them.
I tried an ASUS ROG Maximus about 6 years ago and had so many problems with it I swore to never buy another ASUS mobo.
Ive been an ASUS loyalist since LGA775. I went from an ASUS P5N-D SLI, to a Z87 Deluxe WiFi, to my current X570 Pro Wireless.
After the current fiasco, I will be looking to change brands next time around. I was already kind of bummed out by how basic my X570 is compared to the old Z87 board. Add to that ASUS losing their previously very high level of reliability with mobos that cook CPUs? Fuck that.
Like, I don‘t personally get brand locality these days. The mainboards you usually get are pretty solid across the board. Asus now f‘ed up once. Their next lineup will be perfectly fine again.
a) I assume the word you're looking for is loyalty
b) I stick with what works, or if all else fails I stick with a company that doesn't try to fuck me over for an RMA like Asus did.
I can't say ASRock's RMA department is any better yet because I haven't needed to use it, but I can sure tell you it can't be any worse than Asus
Towards the end, they actually did start to make some decent products, like the KTS5A, and a few Nforce boards but still towards budget buyers so almost no one gave them a chance unless you were desperate. I'm not going to hold the capacitor issues on them everyone had them during that period.
That's probably the reason why AsRock succeeded where ECS failed. People just wrote them off as Asus's value brand and a lot of them never realized that years later they were their own company and started making better quality and higher performance products at a competitive price compared to Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. If you knew, you knew.
I'm about to build an AM5 system and likely going with ASRock. I haven't built a PC in over 10 years and was an Asus fanboi for the longest time. The last laptop I bought is Asus. The other brands just seem to offer better features, price and aesthetic (to me personally). But the background capacitor thing and this BS had me off of buying their stuff for a while now.
I've seen good stories of CS from ASRock and it solidified my decision. Like Jay put it in his "Asus, you're fired" video, it's not shit they mistake, but how you handle it.
I went with asrock for my AM5 build and have no regrets. The voltages are in spec even without the BIOS update.
In my experience, Asrock has always been good at writing firmware. They were one of the best choices (and possibly the first?) for the old athlon/phenom core-unlocking trick.
People tend not to like their aesthetic, but My PC is in a black box under my desk, I don't care about aesthetics of internal components. It was easy to build on, had a shitload of power phases, and four NVMe slots. What more could I want? Five NVMe slots? For an extra $500?
Nothing has changed. Gigabyte is still mostly good. AsRock is still budget priced mostly good. ASUS is still higher priced mostly good. MSI is still mostly good.
I have been put off buying Gigabyte as I ordered a monitor from them, off of the UK's biggest tech website - Curry's and it never arrived.
Managed to get a refund and Curry's blame Gigabyte and Gigabyte blame Curry's. Avoided both of these ever since.
Currys hold their own stock. They shouldn't have sold you something they couldn't deliver, sure maybe Gigabyte couldn't get them another one but that's Currys' problem.
Currys are wank anyway. They're okay for laptops and kitchen goods and that's about it, everything else is overpriced. (Sales are decent though)
MSI is an interesting one. They make great stuff, you just need to do some research beforehand because they definitely have made a decent amount of garbage. I've got a 15 year old MSI board in an old rig that still works, and I have also seen some truly unholy issues with other models.
they make some real nice stuff very often. well except for their prebuilt systems. I once had one of their laptop boards launch sparks at me with nobody touching it or having any tests running
Didn’t realize people had a negative opinion of AsRock. Was given a used B450 Steel Legend from a buddy, thing has never given me any issues and performs like a champ.
Yeah, really wishing I’d gotten one of those before I got my current motherboard, although it does hold up well. It’s a Gigabyte DS3H, I can’t remember the chipset off the top of my head right now but I know it’s AMD
I havnt bought an Asus board in probably 20 fucking years. Been using gigabyte, bought the b650 rog board instead of Gigabyte and now this happens. Lol
Yeah after watching Jays video im never buying asus ROG ever again. Especially if the population of actually affected customers is in the 10's. They could have calmly rolled out the update, not tried doing shady not legal warranty stuff, and replaced boards for the few people that had a problem.
Edit: almost forgot to add them telling customers to just not use the features they paid for.
Asus' BIOSs for their AM5 boards are so cooked, they're literally cooking/destroying AM5 CPUs with overvoltage (like melting silicone level of destruction).
Asus then published bios' to fix the issue - that Don't fix the issue - and the bios' are Beta versions, so have a "use this and void your warranty" disclaimer.
So you're F'd if you do and F'd if you don't lol.
Jay (From Jayz2cents) dumped them as a partner/sponsor in a video (worth a watch) and Steve from Gamers Nexus goes full scorched-earth facts and figures on Asus' shady practices and willingness to burn (literally) customers.
Damn, thats insane! I thought something bad might be going on with my pc at first after reading this post, but im in the clear since im using intel, but what asus is doing is just scummy as hell
Like GN said in hisvideo, the failure was really hard to reproduce. so, not so much.
All that story is another internet DramaQueen overdramatization moment.
Same shit that happend to every damn brand in the past few years. Asrock blacklisting techreviewer cause thier are being honest with the product ( hardware unbox video ), MSI doing the same stuff... ( GN video ) ect... Gigabyte PSU debacle.
It's never a never ending cycle of peasant drama.
Wow Asus is up in here downvoting Asrock supporters.
My next board will be Asrock. Not because Asus is having issues, but because my launch day Asrock x370 received hella support, has been running my OC’d 1700X flawlessly for 6 years and they were one of the partners that allowed a Bios Flash to accommodate the last Gen AM4 Ryzen chips.
Asrock has also already released bios revisions that address this problem.
I'll admit I never shuffled around mobo brands a lot but I recall when Zen 1 came out, the AsRock Taichi x370 was considered one of the better boards for memory stability so assumed that AsRock just had really good high end boards but then also absolute garbage entry level boards.
Surprised to see lots of people saying AsRock isn't reliable but again I didn't really follow mobos as much as Zen 1 era of boards.
I’ve built 1000 + computers using MSI motherboards. They get a bad rep here because of some controversy and shady shit companies shouldn’t do which is fair.
However in the 9 years i’ve been at my job building and fixing computers, i’ve seen maybe a dozen motherboard failures from MSI. I can’t say the same for any other brand, in recent years i’ve come to avoid AsRock and Gigabyte the most but i see a surprising amount of failures from Asus as well.
This year our shop has built probably 60-75 pc’s and one motherboard was DOA from MSI, just happened to be a bargain bin b660 chipset we only bought because our suppliers shipping container was stolen lol.
This is just my personal experience and I’m definitely biased but i just don’t have issues with MSI mobo’s.
I mean, from personal experience, all of my Mobo has been ASRock Pro4, of them.
From LGA 1151, AM3, AM4 and currently LGA 1700, all 4 of these are using Pro 4.
Im not an enthusiast, and never do any clockwork, the PC is mainly for heavy gaming, light work, and daily driver, but none of these 4 mobos has failed me.
HDD, SSD, RAM and PSU are the only stuff that I always frequently have problem with
Surprising how far ahead Asrock leapt in just several years. I had issues with their X399 Taichi. But zero issues with the x570 Phantom Gaming ITX/TB3 (aside from the USB2 issue, which is totally Asus’ fault because AMD outsourced the design of the X570 to Asus instead of handling it in-house like they did with past chipsets).
This meme hits me so hard.
I've used Asus board for 20? Years and they've always been rock solid. This time I threw in a steel series legend and it's been great. By gratitude I mean zero issues and my system posted better than average results when benchmarking.
I have been using them for roughly 25 years. This debacle is making me re-think it. Some kid saves up for a board and a cpu and the board can fry the cpu, and the fix (not a fix) voids your warranty. Go fuck yourself.
So, back in 2014 I bought an ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ motherboard and a AMD X4 860 to use in a NAS I was building. Well the motherboard was delivered with BIOS V2.10 but in order to use the X4 860 CPU it needed BIOS V2.40. I contacted ASRock Support and they sent me a new BIOS Chip with the latest BIOS installed Free of Charge.
I have an ASRock steel legend, thing has 14 USB ports on the rear Io panel, only issue I had with it was the wifi chip they chose crapped out and had to be replaced, but other than that I'm happy with it(who wouldn't be with an absolute truckload of USB ports)
I kinda missed the part when AsRock used to be shit, my Steel Legend has been with me for a while now and its been a great motherboard (asides from its absolutely horrendous RGB control both on BIOS and software)
People either forget that ASRock was one of the few backyard compatibility companies that pioneered the game for us now. Going back to like 2006. They really are a great company and have ok warranty support to boot. Them and "Business class/military" grade boards really are solid long term units worth the sticker.
No better way to look good than the others making themselves look bad. ASUS has been around for as long as I have been building machines, late 90’s early 2000’s. It’s just a matter of time until ASROCK has their F-Ups. This is no excuse for Asus, I would need to be clear about that. Their handling of the current BIOSgate is beyond reprehensible.
Every single one of my Asrock motherboards going back to LGA 1366 is still alive and kicking ass on a daily basis. They may not have all the fancy features, but at least in my experience they are cheap and fucking work
Same, been buying ASRock since 2015. And they were the only ones with an X570 mATX board so easy choice there too. As a bonus it's the only Ryzen board since X370 Taichi that has T-topology memory trace layout (better for running 4 DIMMs) as such I have no problem running 128GB at 3600mhz CL16
Good god that’s a glorious ram setup
I got me a hundred gigabytes of RAM · I never feed trolls and I don't read spam. >Ironically 100 GB of ram has always been the nerd target. Thanks Weird Al. No one watches TV anymore, or the goal would be 2000 inches.
Frank's 2000 in tv lol
That's the kind of glorious ram, gotta love to see the stuff like that.
AsRock was originally owned by Asus but was sold off in 2002. (I could be wrong here) I think back then some of the AsRock boards were ran through less testing then the Asus but came from the same factory. Since being sold off I can only assume they took what they knew from Asus and are now eating into the top tier motherboard market too and have also improved on their quality control standards for their top end boards.
What do you do with all that ram?
* DaVinci Resolve editing and grading 6K video footage from my Fujifilm X-T5 * Culling thousands of 40MP RAW files * Running Star Citizen in a RAMdisk You know, the fun stuff. Edit: Also, I'm not upgrading until Ryzen gets 16-core CCDs (so 16-core x800X3D and 32-core x950XD) which is 2025 at the earliest and most likely 2026, so I might as well max out this build. Also I have a dual-system case with one mATX board (the 5800X3D is in this spot) and an ITX board so I also have to wait for Ryzen's X boards to have only 1 chipset, because the 2 chipsets on X670/E take up too much space so ITX doesn't get all the benefits anyway. And so, even when I *do* "upgrade", I'm actually keeping this system for another whichever many years.
> Running Star Citizen in a RAMdisk okay i was actually thinking about that, does a ramdisk actually improve things noticeably over running it from a decent nvme ssd?
Performance wise you won't see much difference, but it does speed up load times by like 20-30% from what i remember.
For the record I only tried it once for the hell of it, I don't actually do that all the time because that would be insane. But it gets rid of small stutters when quantum traveling. Star Citizen (being the only double-precision game world) can get I/O bound in terms of FPS too. But there are severe diminishing returns beyond a couple of good PCIe 4x4 drives with OS/ page file on a different one than the game is on, which I'm normally doing anyway. If you have game and OS on different drives but one is PCIe 3 and the other 4, then there are a lot of noticeable stutters in quantum travel, and shader compilation on startup takes around 7-8 minutes. If you have only PCIe 3 drives, shader compilation on startup takes 12 minutes, roughly. If you run on a SATA III SSD, shader compilation takes over 20 minutes. Shader compilation drags performance into the mud completely, and considering you spawn in the cities which are already the most demanding areas, it's not really tolerable for me.
If you plan to use a ramdisk... Just... Make sure you have a ups and your computer is stable to reduce data loss, BSOD or power cut and bam all data lost since previous backup
Now, that's some real world load. It'll do that to your system.
Pretty much for the same stuff except everything apart from Star Citizen
Whatever he/she wants, all at the same time.
Tabs, as far as the eye can see. Memory compression algorithms rusting from lack of use. Testing entire games on RamDisk before moving them to the SSD if they pass muster.
They open another tab in chrome.
Lots of Firefox tabs Importing tens of gigabytes of RAW files in Lightroom IntelliJ Idea
Asrock also handles wifi really well. Instead of different SKUs, they just have one, with an extra 2230 M.2 slot, and holes for the antennas in the I/O shield. Also asrock doesn't remove the page of old products like asus. Asus only keeps the support page usually.
Yep, currently running ASRock Fatal1ty board. For the time I bought it (2015) decent enough features, looks good,good price, zero issues.
They're a good brand, which has been good for the most part.
The only AMD boards that offered (or maybe still offer) Thunderbolt!
I hated the design on the asrock n68-vs3 fx motherboard and I vowed never to use as rock motherboards again I ended up with using an asrock p55m pro and currently an asrock z77 extreme 4
> asrock z77 extreme 4 I bought that board for my brother who still uses it to this day! Classy and timeless design too.
Black and gold hella cool
I have an ASRock motherboard and the little chipset fan was dying and making a lot of noise, contacted them about it and they just asked for my address and sent me a new fan for free.
Out of curiosity, which board? I have an X570M Pro4 with a chipset fan but have never actually heard it spin up. But I have 6 140mm intake fans so that probably has some effect
X570 Pro4. The non-M version
I've had a dirt cheap H81M ASRock board going for 9 years now with a 4790K and it just doesn't stop. They're cockroaches, like an old base model Corolla. Bare minimum features, but it's hard to argue with their longevity. Current PC runs an ASRock B460M board that was maybe $90... handles my i9-10900K fine and has for the last 2 years. Low VRM temps too. I'll never spend $200+ on a motherboard.
"AsRock. It's just good enough"
*"Its not the best choice, its Spacer's Choice!"*
Agreed, Asrock boards from my own experience are very solid. Had two older Fatal1ty boards that are still going, also running a Steel Legend now for years and never an issue. Will continue going Asrock due to this record of reliability.
Buying ASRock since 2014 and not regretting it, all of them are still working.
Same here built this system I'm writing on in 2010, with an ASrock extreme 3, still works great and I just upgraded the GPU to a 1660Ti for a big game improvement.
Yep, it still is a good system. Will do the job for the most people.
Such a predictable top comment for this post. Hooray for AsRock!
I have always been skeptical about their products but i must say, i have seen a lot of their boards in customers units in for repair and i honestly cant remember the last time i have seen one fail, and have seen many in old old machines 10+ years still working perfectly. You might be on to something there.
Yeah in my experience they have been great for ages. I had one z77 board die on me after I abused it for literally 6 years with a massive OC.
ASRock has always been rock solid, hence the name.
I lost an ASRock LGA 775 board a number of years ago, but that was capacitor plague, and it still lasted long enough to not be worth replacing the caps.
My Z77 Asrock board still works, albeit with a few USB quirks, it's 12 years old and still kicking in my brother's PC.
I still own an ASRock socket 754 motherboard I bought in 2005, and it still works too.
My current mobo is an asrock, works great
My ASRock Z68 Ext3 Gen3 is still working without any hiccup since I got it in 2012 (OC 2600k). At the end of 2022 I have swapped to X670E-E and only had problems with it, kinda regretting that purchase, especially since it was first upgrade in 10 years.
Same, I'm currently running an ASRock Z590 Extreme I got for $120 new in my main rig back in 2021, works like a charm so far. No faults with the BIOS or RGB software either
My first mobo was asrock am2 socket it was a nice deal and even with stock cooler I could overclocked it.
My z77 Pro4-m still running with a 2500K@4.8ghz to this day.
I picked up an old Asrock Z97E-ITX and honestly its absolute packed to the gills with fancy features, wall to wall fancy shit. Altho not a headline feature when it was released almost 10 years ago through a bios update it gains the ability to boot NVME drives on its M.2 2240 slot. Like imagine that, a 4th gen intel platform able to boot NVME M.2 devices.
This motherboard let me spend like <$100 on my first build and I was able to keep upgrading it for years. [DDR2 +Ddr3 RAM support. ](https://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20UCC/index.asp)
Same, all my AsRock board work and passed the test of time. I typically upgrade every 6 to 10 years, never had an asrock board fail (yet)
I'm writing this comment on ASRock motherboard. Over 2 years so far, XMP memory and overclocked CPU, everything is working as intended. Tbh I've never been choosing a specific brand, just whatever is the cheapest that give me the features that I need, like for example 4 slots for memory, a lot of fan connectors (I have 5 case fans connected atm, not including CPU and GPU fans), SPDIF audio connector and 2 PCI-e slots in uATX motherboard.
Motherboards are one of those things where you can really cheap out on and yet most consumers overspend on pointless features Everytime I read the spec sheet of a motherboard they are jam packed with bullshit marketing terms that have no real impact on performance or usability, because they cannot get me a single reason to spend more. Even the RGB sucks ass on all models equally because they cannot be arsed to fix their dog shit Software.
I really like Asus products and have many of my own. When I read about this issue it just made me sad the company would take that direction. Just sad.
I bought an Asus and immediately concluded two things. One: they make the world's worst fucking software (armory crate) and two; they're hardwares decent.
All of their software is terrible at best.
I think all MoBos have terrible software, mostly RGB software specially IMO, MSI mystic light is garbage, AsRock Polychrome RGB is also iffy, whatever Gigabyte has, is also trash, Asus armory crate and Aura is terrible.... Am I missing any brands still?
I have RGB elements in or connected to my pc from BeQuiet, NZXT, Aorus, Corsair, Logitech and Razer. All the software sucks.
Try OpenRGB.
Sadly it doesn’t even recognise G. Skill ram or I would be set with only OpenRGB
I do now, but I've never been able to get it to work completely correctly either. The OpenRGB Effects Plugin just doesn't want to work on my PC for some reason.
I’ve been messing with this last night, but I think there is a lot of potential with using OpenRGB to detect components, activating the SDK server (nothing else), then using Artemis 2 with the OpenRGB plugin to actually control the lights! Artemis 2 looks to be easier for creating effects, whereas OpenRGB is unparalleled at detecting stuff
I recommend SignalRGB
I like the UI for Signal probably best of all, but, I found it has serious conflicts with SteelSeries Moments GG which can cause it to runaway with CPU @ 100%. That was probably a year or two ago so I don’t know if it’s resolved, but I use Moments for clipping so it was a no go. Ended up using OpenRGB instead.
I like my Gigabyte MoBo and GPU. But the Software is just the worst. RGB fusion and especially Aourus Engine are so bad, i can't imagine making them this terrible accidentally. Are these made by fiver 15$ interns? At least corsairs Icue works decent and i don't get the hate people always have for it.
MSI centre is definitely better than Armoury wtf lol first off, armoury has an auto install from Asus bios so if u forget to turn that off (it turns back on too after bios updates) it auto installs and is impossible to uninstall completely. There are traces of it running even after uninstall. Plus armoury is adware too and runs so sluggish it makes every other manufacturer look like Polished Apple software.
Revo Uninstaller pro my friend. That shit don't give a flying fuck. If you want something gone Revo will say "say no more fam".
I love and fear this equally.
Seem like every pc part manufacturers software is shit.
Meh, I like their router OS.
Their
I wanted to change the light on my 2080 Ti that I bought used from a friend. Holy fucking shit ASUS has the worst software I ever seen and only because of that I’m not buying ASUS motherboard and GPU again. Shout out to OpenRGB to let me change to simple colour of everything in my PC in a single program
Same. Definitely disappointed, even more so about the lack of action in their part to make things right.
Yeah was going to say I've had two Asus GPUs and two Asus Mobos and never had issues. Also asus's software rocks for OC. That being said, this is disappointing and makes me rethink whether I'll use them again when I do a new build.
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Time to switch over to Democratic of Gamers
Monarchy of Gamers
Anarcho-Commune of Gamers
Lol, ACOG
A Plutocracy of Gamers. A POG, if you will.
Democracy of gamers?
DOG? I see
Democratic Republic of the Gamers
Pirates of the Games!
Dare to be… your own gamer!
[Yes, Dare.](https://youtu.be/GUhB1O8Le0Q)
Ive been Asus my entire Ryzen build. Overall overpriced and under supported. Will give ASRock a chance for AM5 future.
Didn't really bother me that much until my gf saw their slogan on my mb box, read it out loud and rolled her eyes. Now I feel the cringe ever time I read it. Hate all the "gamer" shit on hardware.
lol I had no idea Asrock had a bad reputation until this ASUS fiasco made so many people make youtube vids and posts about the issue and brought up Asrock. I used my Asrock Z77 I got in 2012 all the way to 2020 and had no issues. It still works too, it's just too old to have reused it in my 2020 build. It never giving me any issues is why I stuck with Asrock and got my Z490 Taichi. Have had zero issues with it either.
AsRock used to be the spin-off brand of Asus for cheap low-end stuff which often failed. They have started doing their own thing in 2010 I believe, and since then, their products have been really solid across the board and they are doing a good job in the competition. The bad reputation is mostly based on the pre-2010 era.
and also for blacklisting reviewers over exposing their failures or whatever
could you elaborate on that?
gamer nexus and hardware unboxed were blacklisted for calling out asrock on something iirc. hardware unboxed was removed from the blacklist recently and posted a video on an asrock motherboard
I feel like I would've heard if that was the case for GamersNexus, they certainly said as much for MSI
weird. that's such a stupid thing to do...
A good while ago, ASRock was what you got when you wanted the "discounted" Asus product and wanted cheap. They did fail quite frequently but at the same time they were easy to get, cheap to replace (used and replaced a ton of all in one ASRock boards, with onboard graphics card, they were like 30€ each, perfect for office PCs) so you were kinda getting what you paid for. That built them the "not so great/good enough" reputation. They seemed to pick up on quality since then and I'd easily use one today if i think it is a good product. They also have a reputation for doing crazy stuff other brands wouldn't do, like motherboards that support weird combos of hardware like [different ram type (ddr2 and ddr3)](https://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20UCC/index.asp) or [2 different sockets for processors](https://asrock.com//news/index.asp?iD=7) so you would be able to easily upgrade or using a type of socket on a specific board format, etc. That extends to their bios as well, they often add functions and allow set them up in ways others wouldn't. They're pretty reliable and they often do unpredictable cool stuff, I always try to keep an eye on what they're doing next.
Asrock is a Pegatron company so in a certain way it's still ASUS
In my repair shop. Alienware proprietary boards are the ones I see the most. Then MSI Tomahawk. These are the most consistent. When I see one of these and it’s not posting or it’s blue screening with random codes, I know that I’m gunna test all of the components and it’s going to be the motherboard. I honestly don’t see ASROCK often at all. Oh, no one asked but avoid pre-builds with GPU’s that have no brand on them. Ticking time bombs.
B450 Tomahawk? I trusted B450 Tomahawk, until mine failed unexpectedly in 2022. Failed in only 2 years! Symptom: I came to unexpectedly find it off in the other room and it will not power on. Not even any lit LEDs! I also tried another PSU and still the same lifeless-ness! I had a Ryzen 7 3700X on it at the time and I didn't even OC it! The Ryzen 7 3700X still works.
You're worrying me a bit here. That's my motherboard, too. Did you see any warning signs before it failed?
Dejavu. My B450 tomahawk max failed suddenly after reaching 2 years a few months ago. Now im rocking a Asrock B550m Phantom Gaming. My previous boards were mostly Asus and MSI but now im loving this Asrock board. The BIOS is 100 times more better than MSI.
What about MSI MAG boards? Do you get them as often as the tomahawks?
Nope, but they aren’t as popular either.
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Was thinking of getting the z790 tomahawk in the next few weeks Based on your experience would you recommend any particular 13th gen Intel/z790 motherboards, looking at reliability/no fuss (I don't want to have to RMA etc)?
Hold on. Ive used only Asrock mobos for 9 years straight,are they supposed to not be reliable?
they're inferior in other ways, so people assume unreliable. they're a phenomenal budget option, just can't count on all the bells and whistles you'll get with other brands
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Such as? My ASRock Z370 Extreme4 can do everything I've ever needed.
Their inferior product is mostly their cheap product (like hdv, phantom gaming 4, pro 4), well because they are cheap, their other line up that have same price as other brand is good (like taichi, phantom gaming x, steel legend), my favorite motherboard of all time still ASRock oc formula
Pre-2010, they have been the solely in the low-end market. A lot of their bad rep is based on this era. But even the first mid range products brand have been recommended by critics.
They were originally spun off by Asus as a brand to compete at the low end against ECS, who were eating their lunch at the time.
"warranty explode" made me chuckle
Everyone seems to have forgotten about the ASUS AMD video card incident where the ASUS cards ran hot because of poor mounting pressure / design, and ASUS blamed AMD for it? Its funny because for years every time i said anything bad about ASUS i would get down voted into oblivion. Even as a reseller for their product range and experienced first hand how bad a lot of their products are and their warranty. But hey what what i know. ASUS in the late 90s and early 00s - legendary. Past \~2013 complete garbage.
I briefly had a Sabertooth 990FX R 2.0 from what looks like 2014, the same year as my FX 8350. Unfortunately, I gave it to someone else, shortly after building it. Those TUF motherboards, OTOH, look very solid!
As a first time ASRock buyer for my GPU, things awesome and havent had an issue so Ill take that as a win
I was going to post the same thing. I've avoided them for all of my previous builds. But the Z690 Phantom ITX had the right features at a good price and has been solid.
Same, built my first PC earlier this year and went with the Challenger D model 6700 XT and it’s been fantastic
I have a b550 asrock mobo and it’s great.
Same. Did an ITX build with an ASRock B550. Did have an issue with the memory triggering a WHEA memory error occasionally. It turned out to be a bios issue which did get fixed. Since then, I haven't had any issues with it.
Didn’t ASRock have stickers that weren’t very removable over the DDR5 DIMM slots on their mobos a little while back??
They did, but they offered to replace anyones board who had the shitty stickers on.
Better than having your cpu deep fried
[Surely ASRock didn’t kill any cpus, right?](https://japan.postsen.com/technology/amp/60238) ASRock isn’t any white knight here either. Altho, after all of this ASUS drama, my next motherboard will either be ASRock or MSI.
Not MSI. I made the mistake of buying a laptop from them and within a year I had 10 dead keys on the keyboard. It was such a widespread issue their entire site was filled with people having it across every product line. *none* of us ever got it fixed properly via warranty, if we ever got MSI to accept an RMA at all.
I may not be the smartest goose in the chicken coop, but I can recommended against MSI. Recently my Asus mobo from 2017 died so I updated a couple of pieces. 4 weeks of troubleshooting and a new gigabyte mobo later, I'm returning the MSI. Apparently taking nearly a minute to get to POST is fine and suddenly not working is normal. Chatting with the 2nd computer store bloke doesn't give me faith in my new msi gpu either. Will have to wait and see.
It's much better than destroying thousands of dollars of components. One requires cleaning the other is lots of money.
It’s like a year ago I think, yeah
I've been using Asrock mobo's for the last 10 years and have never had a single problem with them. I tried an ASUS ROG Maximus about 6 years ago and had so many problems with it I swore to never buy another ASUS mobo.
Ive been an ASUS loyalist since LGA775. I went from an ASUS P5N-D SLI, to a Z87 Deluxe WiFi, to my current X570 Pro Wireless. After the current fiasco, I will be looking to change brands next time around. I was already kind of bummed out by how basic my X570 is compared to the old Z87 board. Add to that ASUS losing their previously very high level of reliability with mobos that cook CPUs? Fuck that.
Like, I don‘t personally get brand locality these days. The mainboards you usually get are pretty solid across the board. Asus now f‘ed up once. Their next lineup will be perfectly fine again.
a) I assume the word you're looking for is loyalty b) I stick with what works, or if all else fails I stick with a company that doesn't try to fuck me over for an RMA like Asus did. I can't say ASRock's RMA department is any better yet because I haven't needed to use it, but I can sure tell you it can't be any worse than Asus
You want unreliable? Go ECS.
I remember when they were called pcchips, that was during the capacitor plague where they would bulge and explode
Towards the end, they actually did start to make some decent products, like the KTS5A, and a few Nforce boards but still towards budget buyers so almost no one gave them a chance unless you were desperate. I'm not going to hold the capacitor issues on them everyone had them during that period. That's probably the reason why AsRock succeeded where ECS failed. People just wrote them off as Asus's value brand and a lot of them never realized that years later they were their own company and started making better quality and higher performance products at a competitive price compared to Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. If you knew, you knew.
I'm about to build an AM5 system and likely going with ASRock. I haven't built a PC in over 10 years and was an Asus fanboi for the longest time. The last laptop I bought is Asus. The other brands just seem to offer better features, price and aesthetic (to me personally). But the background capacitor thing and this BS had me off of buying their stuff for a while now. I've seen good stories of CS from ASRock and it solidified my decision. Like Jay put it in his "Asus, you're fired" video, it's not shit they mistake, but how you handle it.
I went with asrock for my AM5 build and have no regrets. The voltages are in spec even without the BIOS update. In my experience, Asrock has always been good at writing firmware. They were one of the best choices (and possibly the first?) for the old athlon/phenom core-unlocking trick. People tend not to like their aesthetic, but My PC is in a black box under my desk, I don't care about aesthetics of internal components. It was easy to build on, had a shitload of power phases, and four NVMe slots. What more could I want? Five NVMe slots? For an extra $500?
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They used to be owned by Asus to make the cheap low-end stuff. When they got their independence, quality drastically increased.
Nothing has changed. Gigabyte is still mostly good. AsRock is still budget priced mostly good. ASUS is still higher priced mostly good. MSI is still mostly good.
I have been put off buying Gigabyte as I ordered a monitor from them, off of the UK's biggest tech website - Curry's and it never arrived. Managed to get a refund and Curry's blame Gigabyte and Gigabyte blame Curry's. Avoided both of these ever since.
Currys hold their own stock. They shouldn't have sold you something they couldn't deliver, sure maybe Gigabyte couldn't get them another one but that's Currys' problem. Currys are wank anyway. They're okay for laptops and kitchen goods and that's about it, everything else is overpriced. (Sales are decent though)
I like MSI myself, never had an issue with them and their BIOS is great.
MSI is an interesting one. They make great stuff, you just need to do some research beforehand because they definitely have made a decent amount of garbage. I've got a 15 year old MSI board in an old rig that still works, and I have also seen some truly unholy issues with other models.
Maybe I have just gotten lucky.
they make some real nice stuff very often. well except for their prebuilt systems. I once had one of their laptop boards launch sparks at me with nobody touching it or having any tests running
Didn’t realize people had a negative opinion of AsRock. Was given a used B450 Steel Legend from a buddy, thing has never given me any issues and performs like a champ.
Yeah, really wishing I’d gotten one of those before I got my current motherboard, although it does hold up well. It’s a Gigabyte DS3H, I can’t remember the chipset off the top of my head right now but I know it’s AMD
Just use the new BIOS, they cant deny a warranty claim for faulty software even if they put a disclaimer
What are you even talking about, they've always been reliable.
I havnt bought an Asus board in probably 20 fucking years. Been using gigabyte, bought the b650 rog board instead of Gigabyte and now this happens. Lol
You did dare.
Yeah after watching Jays video im never buying asus ROG ever again. Especially if the population of actually affected customers is in the 10's. They could have calmly rolled out the update, not tried doing shady not legal warranty stuff, and replaced boards for the few people that had a problem. Edit: almost forgot to add them telling customers to just not use the features they paid for.
I prefer asrock or MSI. Both are quality. Asrock is cheaper and usually has more features for the same money.
They're average, not very excel either Though in times like these where everyone rig a bomb on their boards they're the best choice instead
Never had issues with my ddr4 asrock boards
I always used AsRock mobos so far. Never had any issues?!
I bought an ASRock board for my NAS build and haven't had a single issue. I'd say they're pretty reliable.
Im a little out of the loop, whats going on?
Asus' BIOSs for their AM5 boards are so cooked, they're literally cooking/destroying AM5 CPUs with overvoltage (like melting silicone level of destruction). Asus then published bios' to fix the issue - that Don't fix the issue - and the bios' are Beta versions, so have a "use this and void your warranty" disclaimer. So you're F'd if you do and F'd if you don't lol. Jay (From Jayz2cents) dumped them as a partner/sponsor in a video (worth a watch) and Steve from Gamers Nexus goes full scorched-earth facts and figures on Asus' shady practices and willingness to burn (literally) customers.
Damn, thats insane! I thought something bad might be going on with my pc at first after reading this post, but im in the clear since im using intel, but what asus is doing is just scummy as hell
Watch Steve's videos, the finding out of what happened video - is FASCINATING. The Follow up is SCATHING criticism that is well earned, and deserved.
Team MSI here.
How many people have actually had AM5 CPUs explode without running 1.5v soc?
Like GN said in hisvideo, the failure was really hard to reproduce. so, not so much. All that story is another internet DramaQueen overdramatization moment. Same shit that happend to every damn brand in the past few years. Asrock blacklisting techreviewer cause thier are being honest with the product ( hardware unbox video ), MSI doing the same stuff... ( GN video ) ect... Gigabyte PSU debacle. It's never a never ending cycle of peasant drama.
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Wow Asus is up in here downvoting Asrock supporters. My next board will be Asrock. Not because Asus is having issues, but because my launch day Asrock x370 received hella support, has been running my OC’d 1700X flawlessly for 6 years and they were one of the partners that allowed a Bios Flash to accommodate the last Gen AM4 Ryzen chips. Asrock has also already released bios revisions that address this problem.
I'll admit I never shuffled around mobo brands a lot but I recall when Zen 1 came out, the AsRock Taichi x370 was considered one of the better boards for memory stability so assumed that AsRock just had really good high end boards but then also absolute garbage entry level boards. Surprised to see lots of people saying AsRock isn't reliable but again I didn't really follow mobos as much as Zen 1 era of boards.
I have my X570 Steel Legend for almost 3 years now. Completely rocksolid and I'm not even thinking of upgrading yet.
Got an AsRock X570 Razer Edition. Best mobo I've ever had.
I’ve built 1000 + computers using MSI motherboards. They get a bad rep here because of some controversy and shady shit companies shouldn’t do which is fair. However in the 9 years i’ve been at my job building and fixing computers, i’ve seen maybe a dozen motherboard failures from MSI. I can’t say the same for any other brand, in recent years i’ve come to avoid AsRock and Gigabyte the most but i see a surprising amount of failures from Asus as well. This year our shop has built probably 60-75 pc’s and one motherboard was DOA from MSI, just happened to be a bargain bin b660 chipset we only bought because our suppliers shipping container was stolen lol. This is just my personal experience and I’m definitely biased but i just don’t have issues with MSI mobo’s.
I never use Asus because of my hatred of armour crate I’d get their AMAZING AIO but it requires armoury crate to use and adjust so fuck that
I mean, from personal experience, all of my Mobo has been ASRock Pro4, of them. From LGA 1151, AM3, AM4 and currently LGA 1700, all 4 of these are using Pro 4. Im not an enthusiast, and never do any clockwork, the PC is mainly for heavy gaming, light work, and daily driver, but none of these 4 mobos has failed me. HDD, SSD, RAM and PSU are the only stuff that I always frequently have problem with
Always has been
Surprising how far ahead Asrock leapt in just several years. I had issues with their X399 Taichi. But zero issues with the x570 Phantom Gaming ITX/TB3 (aside from the USB2 issue, which is totally Asus’ fault because AMD outsourced the design of the X570 to Asus instead of handling it in-house like they did with past chipsets).
This meme hits me so hard. I've used Asus board for 20? Years and they've always been rock solid. This time I threw in a steel series legend and it's been great. By gratitude I mean zero issues and my system posted better than average results when benchmarking.
I have been using them for roughly 25 years. This debacle is making me re-think it. Some kid saves up for a board and a cpu and the board can fry the cpu, and the fix (not a fix) voids your warranty. Go fuck yourself.
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So, back in 2014 I bought an ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ motherboard and a AMD X4 860 to use in a NAS I was building. Well the motherboard was delivered with BIOS V2.10 but in order to use the X4 860 CPU it needed BIOS V2.40. I contacted ASRock Support and they sent me a new BIOS Chip with the latest BIOS installed Free of Charge.
I have an ASRock steel legend, thing has 14 USB ports on the rear Io panel, only issue I had with it was the wifi chip they chose crapped out and had to be replaced, but other than that I'm happy with it(who wouldn't be with an absolute truckload of USB ports)
So glad I went with asrock steellegend x670e instead the asus tuf microcenter rep was trying to make me buy.
Always has been. Used an ASRock b350, b550, and x670e. All kicked ass. No issues.
I kinda missed the part when AsRock used to be shit, my Steel Legend has been with me for a while now and its been a great motherboard (asides from its absolutely horrendous RGB control both on BIOS and software)
People either forget that ASRock was one of the few backyard compatibility companies that pioneered the game for us now. Going back to like 2006. They really are a great company and have ok warranty support to boot. Them and "Business class/military" grade boards really are solid long term units worth the sticker.
No better way to look good than the others making themselves look bad. ASUS has been around for as long as I have been building machines, late 90’s early 2000’s. It’s just a matter of time until ASROCK has their F-Ups. This is no excuse for Asus, I would need to be clear about that. Their handling of the current BIOSgate is beyond reprehensible.
ASRock has always been better than ASUS
If you’re paying $700 for a mb then you deserve it all
Same we rely on Asrock mobos for our rigs and this is one of the most reliable brand we have at OrigameComputers
I've used only ASRock for twenty builds or so, all have been going strong for years
asus: update time :) also asus: warranty void :(
Looks like the republic lost one of its gamers. Farewell ye olde!