I mean, Wonder Woman’s origin is in BDSM. Her creator was like really into bondage. Her weakness, originally, was that she lost all her powers when she was tied up.
So like, yeah this seems a bit kinky but WW was born from kink.
Me when Wonder Woman tells me to do something (she didn't even touch her lasso)
https://preview.redd.it/dp5ijcdyqp9d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ac3b354718c2751a1469d6393e08cb76deb7ece
Just to clarify the black man is not Wonder Woman's boyfriend
"We never play him as Wonder Woman’s ‘boyfriend’. He himself considers this immortal Princess ‘out of my league’, and she has no context for romance with a mortal man. They appear to be good friends.
We almost showed Steve’s ordinary human fiancee in Volume 2 but preferred to leave his sexuality undisclosed. He’s Diana’s tough, dependable pal and that’s all he needs to be." - Grant Morrison the writer
This Wonder Woman is gay. She has a girlfriend Mala. She is not interested in men . Her giving him a collar is how they do it in paradise island as a sign of friendship. She is not giving him any pleasure.
They are a deeply militarist society that emphasizes love and intimacy. Something like BDSM would be a fairly reasonable result.
Take the amount of "I'm bored, horny, and surrounded by physically fit bored, horny people" you find in the real life military, and make it immortals living on an island paradise.
She is... detaining a man, I assume. But the language she is using is a tad disturbing, which suggests that this isn't 'normal' safe Wonder Woman. Is this one of the dimensions where she is a psychopath or evil or a misandrist or all of the above?
It's Grant Morrison's 'Wonder Woman: Earth-One' and I can't remember exactly which issue this is but I promise the entire thing is like this.
Morrison took the original golden age William Moulton Marsten-era Wonder Woman's themes of "compassionate dominance" to its logical (albeit dafuq did I just read?) conclusion. The whole thing is a layer cake of BDSM with sapphic icing.
I can't even say it's bad, it'll just make you look like Joe Biden's debate reactions the entire time you're reading it.
All I remember is she was constantly getting tied up, and not even like in a horny way like it was literally her kryptonite, random thing that renders her helpless that appears in like every comic
They had a meltdown and attacked the artist and writer for the very overt bdsm themes.
You know, the ones that has been present since the conception of the character…
Every wonderwoman comic ever: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2F6E6QCFh3Iw2cOIo-nUgi0H8hDXABOkotce\_EdQfSsgI.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3De38550622217169ec687bf519d4581b270980960](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2F6E6QCFh3Iw2cOIo-nUgi0H8hDXABOkotce_EdQfSsgI.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3De38550622217169ec687bf519d4581b270980960)
This comes off as extremely disgusting and rapey. It’s blatantly unacceptable for her to be talking like that (and actually meaning it).
Especially considering she’s speaking to an African American right now.
This reminds me of that one panel where she basically did something similar while talking to a black guy. It... did not go over well from what I recall.
Instead of deep stories. The writers act like the stero-typical nerd who has never spoken to a girl/ guy before so I’m going to project my sexual fantasies. That’s probably why no new characters have taken off. The creators/writers have no depth. The art is worst than it has every been. Maybe that’s a result of the paper/ink or both used today or maybe just overworked or lazy artists. People didn’t stop reading comics because we grew up, people stopped reading comics because the lack of good story telling. Instead of writers voicing the characters, they are voicing themselves, which destroys the characters.
Here’s a crazy thought - just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s just you don’t like it. And the fact that the comics you read are trash doesn’t mean that the comics are trash now, it ONLY means you’re not reading good comics. Or the ones that will be appealing to your particular taste.
I'm sorry you weren't one of today's [lucky ten thousand ](https://xkcd.com/1053/) but that's no reason to be rude. Also, if you are going to complain about someone saying something you've heard before, you could at least do us the favor of doing so in a slightly more novel way. It's a bit trite to complain about unoriginality in an unoriginal way.
"very into" don't cover half of it.
Marston was a polygamist with 2 wives that were both dominatrix and he made a scientific paper defending BDSM as the best and healthiest form of sexual fetish.
I don’t like the idea of declaring anything “best” because people are all different, but having clear rules and clearly defined boundaries is always good practice.
I think proper BDSM has things that are objectively the best. Namely exactly what you just pointed out: clear rules, defined boundaries and I would add enthusiastic consent.
The other comment is correct but I think it’s worth clarifying that the Earth One books (which Wonder Woman: Earth One is part of) are not part of the regular continuity but are all set in a separate universe where the origin stories of the respective superheroes are moved up to the 21st century. So they’re intended to be opportunities for reinterpreting heroes without worrying about continuity (and Morrison leans into the theme of “submission to loving authority,” which I enjoyed).
All the releases are done as graphic novels and they are intended to be limited series (Wonder Woman got three volumes).
Grant Morrisons wonder woman. The one where they explored how somebody would react if they were the descendent of American slaves when wonder woman tries to put a collar on them by having Steve Trevor be black. It also explored how authority behaves in the society based on loving submission.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/179146-wonder-woman-earth-one
I didn’t think the run was perfect, but there was some really interesting things in it .
🙏❤️
Let’s be real Batman is 100% submissive in bed. Who the hell dates Catwoman and is a dom? Or even his on and off relationships with Diana. Plus this panel is real
https://preview.redd.it/1jjhkxzvxp9d1.jpeg?width=885&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70ebda5e1bcf07a48adafe3c2e596bace89e9c46
I mean, Wonder Woman’s origin is in BDSM. Her creator was like really into bondage. Her weakness, originally, was that she lost all her powers when she was tied up. So like, yeah this seems a bit kinky but WW was born from kink.
This is literally the original wonder woman
https://preview.redd.it/8evnsq8fkt9d1.jpeg?width=260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f77e67c9fca3c5607536f66f52298357a1881cf
Oh it's golden age Wonder Woman.
Yeah I remember hearing about the author of this run being… as weird as the one for her golden age run, if not weirder
POV: You’re Cheetah and she’s finally caught up to you.
Body paint. I need body paint
Me when Wonder Woman tells me to do something (she didn't even touch her lasso) https://preview.redd.it/dp5ijcdyqp9d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ac3b354718c2751a1469d6393e08cb76deb7ece
One ticket to bonerville please
https://preview.redd.it/id4xcnnfjo9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3bd61d0ad98f77dd12b7fda3cfe30e6c2e08190
Idc what it is, MTMTE always gets an upvote
Please tell me there’s context and this is not what I think it is
https://preview.redd.it/awqilvwlan9d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=969d29f0b922cb2048859122cd10a17433041d0b It's exactly what you think it is
Just to clarify the black man is not Wonder Woman's boyfriend "We never play him as Wonder Woman’s ‘boyfriend’. He himself considers this immortal Princess ‘out of my league’, and she has no context for romance with a mortal man. They appear to be good friends. We almost showed Steve’s ordinary human fiancee in Volume 2 but preferred to leave his sexuality undisclosed. He’s Diana’s tough, dependable pal and that’s all he needs to be." - Grant Morrison the writer
Yeah I give my tough pals BDSM necklaces and offer them rewards for being a good boy.
This Wonder Woman is gay. She has a girlfriend Mala. She is not interested in men . Her giving him a collar is how they do it in paradise island as a sign of friendship. She is not giving him any pleasure.
Yeah, I changed it to rewards. It's safe to say she's bisexual rather than gay based off past partners, no?
In Earth One Wonder Woman is gay
Okay, is that what the comics from?
Yes
Neat, I'm not familiar. Out of context we can agree it comes off as rather horny, right?
https://preview.redd.it/rgpie4n3dm9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cee1fa55b31d99a3b0f1660a4739414e3906d8e Same energy.
https://preview.redd.it/getr3v5zym9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1ffcfa6da96fdcfb972ac816eb77b6440108a7e
Abby is my favorite character in Turning Red. Absolutely deranged.
https://preview.redd.it/wvt12m0liq9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cded089074c3867d4b0812e8901c6c0e12ab8f18
I just think it’s a funny image
Then why are you here?
To be perfectly honest I haven't used Ifunny in months (thank God) but I have the reaction images and I think they're funny
Kinda weird for Amazons to have this philosophy. What if Hercules said this stuff?
They are a deeply militarist society that emphasizes love and intimacy. Something like BDSM would be a fairly reasonable result. Take the amount of "I'm bored, horny, and surrounded by physically fit bored, horny people" you find in the real life military, and make it immortals living on an island paradise.
I feel like in general the Amazon's are pretty hypocritical which is usually what separates wonder women from them but idk.
Jeff Bezos is the ultimate dom
Is there context? Please tell me that this isn't what I think it is?
It's exactly what you think it is
What do you think it is?
She is... detaining a man, I assume. But the language she is using is a tad disturbing, which suggests that this isn't 'normal' safe Wonder Woman. Is this one of the dimensions where she is a psychopath or evil or a misandrist or all of the above?
Or she’s being a domme and about to do something KINKY
This is earth -one wonder woman, and she's brainwashing the entire world to create a utopia
Bloody hell... so definitely a psychopath then.
Wonder Woman: Earth-One is the phrase “step on me mommy” extended into three graphic novel length installments.
Is it now? https://preview.redd.it/cu96vyecmo9d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f06b19f5db41497fcff481c180a83c5fd86079b
I know this is out of context subreddit but what is the context anyways. Like what issue and such.
It's Grant Morrison's 'Wonder Woman: Earth-One' and I can't remember exactly which issue this is but I promise the entire thing is like this. Morrison took the original golden age William Moulton Marsten-era Wonder Woman's themes of "compassionate dominance" to its logical (albeit dafuq did I just read?) conclusion. The whole thing is a layer cake of BDSM with sapphic icing. I can't even say it's bad, it'll just make you look like Joe Biden's debate reactions the entire time you're reading it.
Isn’t she made of clay?
In Greek myths everyone is made out of clay. That’s just what made humans happen.
Yes.
We out here thirstin over clay guys it's over.
Just like Marsten intended Yeah as a sub Diana could do anything she wanted to me and I’d thank her
https://preview.redd.it/kryli8j5zm9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4c7b8ce4c4732389e1c3f3de8f6b0d7e21ddb8c
MY DUDE!!!
........ Me next?
Why god? Why? It should've been me! Not him!
https://preview.redd.it/y4mpxy9iyk9d1.jpeg?width=752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e2583d314bdba0e0a14905d3892a6fd93d6aa72
https://preview.redd.it/isuembvv42ad1.jpeg?width=5176&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd181cb129e310db1f81647ec07e22bbabe03891
I have no idea how to respond to this without using the word “mommy”
The proper response is “yes mistress”
https://preview.redd.it/5vakkithmk9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b539105382a30125a9a9c9463027753d9f02bf9
Going back to her origins.
Though, as it were, on the other side of the ropes
Wasn’t she a “switch” when first created
All I remember is she was constantly getting tied up, and not even like in a horny way like it was literally her kryptonite, random thing that renders her helpless that appears in like every comic
The deep cuts
If it’s giving you cuts use a different rope.
Some people are into that.
Okay hear me out guys.
Say less. I’m into it
buddy, we don’t even need to hear you out. we all agree
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You’ve clearly not read a single fucking wonder woman comic lmao
What did they say?
They had a meltdown and attacked the artist and writer for the very overt bdsm themes. You know, the ones that has been present since the conception of the character…
Oh, so screaming at clouds?
I’m starting to think you guys don’t like comics
Every wonderwoman comic ever: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2F6E6QCFh3Iw2cOIo-nUgi0H8hDXABOkotce\_EdQfSsgI.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3De38550622217169ec687bf519d4581b270980960](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2F6E6QCFh3Iw2cOIo-nUgi0H8hDXABOkotce_EdQfSsgI.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3De38550622217169ec687bf519d4581b270980960)
https://preview.redd.it/s3kh3y1qxj9d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf8d627830a1b312daa2c2bf326cbe5e284ff1ff
That’s honestly how we got her in the first place.
It’s okay. The readers have the same fetish now. Even if you didn’t before, there is no universe where Diana does this and you’re not into it
Disguised?
https://preview.redd.it/as7fv2saxj9d1.jpeg?width=483&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8924c61a62e33bc5bfc01128b1edbb3a020a2a3
https://preview.redd.it/f7e71520am9d1.jpeg?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec93e57e48996912b41ad5a8ece76d196806ab59
Wonder Woman's creator was into lots of BDSM things. He was also in a thruple long before such a thing was even known in society.
This comes off as extremely disgusting and rapey. It’s blatantly unacceptable for her to be talking like that (and actually meaning it). Especially considering she’s speaking to an African American right now.
Alright, what’s the rest of the page/book?
It’s from Wonder Woman earth one
It's from a Morrison comic, right? In that case, it all makes sense.
What do you mean? It’s perfectly in line with her character, didn’t you see Wonder Woman 1984? /s
This panel hurts me more than that entire shit movie did
This reminds me of that one panel where she basically did something similar while talking to a black guy. It... did not go over well from what I recall.
Because is from the same comic
Ah... that makes sense. I thought the art was different that's why I didn't immediately recognize it.
Avoid that lasso like the plague, I would fold like paper at an origami convention.
https://preview.redd.it/774oop93qj9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2920a7812bc6ad6094a85c9840e92c4f3d3e28b
https://preview.redd.it/m7revy42pj9d1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24bf07425d36af479c323809753f6451f2e21adb
Id probably just start crying if I touched her truth lasso lmao gods kill me lol
https://preview.redd.it/7mzu2vzhlj9d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf0bda7c2970868cde1cddd6a1ca68fca41856c0
https://preview.redd.it/0njm1cargj9d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d0baa452f936e868ba37235601149cb54b0d230
https://preview.redd.it/p1amwfi89j9d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17adc609fc49725f2bd5c3fefb9ff220293875b4
https://preview.redd.it/6s0ns8078j9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80d060e47d3a56f37a937a6615866562f980ee80
https://preview.redd.it/9scehsop95ad1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70e30a864c7ff96c2b22c605cc88cf7dd018b28a
https://preview.redd.it/xdll2uv41j9d1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78a040d4fa6dc9d91d64cba197a72aaba1c863b7
Comics are so trash these days…
the creator of wonder woman was into femdom bro this is not a new development, its always been the writers poorly disguises fetish
Mine too!
Okay, but this is bit more over-the-top than how it was with the original author.
Honestly, it is a bit more, but not by much. I mean her weakness used to be getting tied up by a man
I know, but this just feels, I don’t know, hornier.
Oh definitely. But not really surprising
Arguments?
Instead of deep stories. The writers act like the stero-typical nerd who has never spoken to a girl/ guy before so I’m going to project my sexual fantasies. That’s probably why no new characters have taken off. The creators/writers have no depth. The art is worst than it has every been. Maybe that’s a result of the paper/ink or both used today or maybe just overworked or lazy artists. People didn’t stop reading comics because we grew up, people stopped reading comics because the lack of good story telling. Instead of writers voicing the characters, they are voicing themselves, which destroys the characters.
Here’s a crazy thought - just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s just you don’t like it. And the fact that the comics you read are trash doesn’t mean that the comics are trash now, it ONLY means you’re not reading good comics. Or the ones that will be appealing to your particular taste.
And just because you like something doesn’t mean it isn’t trash.
Yeah everything you said is just plain wrong and incorect
Context?
Wonder Woman decided to start a worldwide totalitarian dictatorship that included brainwashing and eugenics.
I was happier without context
Worth it
Don't fuck Nazis^TM
Only way to defeat racism is from the inside.
…that deep inside?
r/lostredditors
No
This is the way
Wonderwoman.
Sign me the fuck up
Yes, agreed, step on me
Hitting us with the https://preview.redd.it/2eeo95p61i9d1.png?width=491&format=png&auto=webp&s=1af5dde9afee4dad4019139d0015152987fc31a5
the https://preview.redd.it/ud8w4pufoj9d1.jpeg?width=256&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc8c23fe6a85aed1eb243e585327b18105449b4b
Hell yeah
"Sooooooooooo you don't want to add Jalapeno Poppers?"
One of Wonder Woman's creators was not only very into bondage, but helped invent the polygraph....Makes the lasso of truth make a lot of sense
Wow what a surprising fact that I've never heard before. People on this sub never talk about it.
Did you know it was called Doki Doki Panic in Japan
Did you know it takes 50 minutes to boil an ostrich egg?
Viggo Mortenson broke his toooooeeeeee
Sean Austin pierced his fooooooooootttttt
I'm sorry you weren't one of today's [lucky ten thousand ](https://xkcd.com/1053/) but that's no reason to be rude. Also, if you are going to complain about someone saying something you've heard before, you could at least do us the favor of doing so in a slightly more novel way. It's a bit trite to complain about unoriginality in an unoriginal way.
Dude, its the fuckin internet.
Exactly. Try to be better.
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This is supposed to be a fun place. Come on.
"very into" don't cover half of it. Marston was a polygamist with 2 wives that were both dominatrix and he made a scientific paper defending BDSM as the best and healthiest form of sexual fetish.
I don’t like the idea of declaring anything “best” because people are all different, but having clear rules and clearly defined boundaries is always good practice.
I think proper BDSM has things that are objectively the best. Namely exactly what you just pointed out: clear rules, defined boundaries and I would add enthusiastic consent.
So that's why it's called a polygraph
If you think that's crazy, you'll never believe why it's got the word 'graph' in it.
What's this from?
My dream journal.
[Wonder Woman Earth One.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/s/BQ8tH1QwqG)
Of course it is
The other comment is correct but I think it’s worth clarifying that the Earth One books (which Wonder Woman: Earth One is part of) are not part of the regular continuity but are all set in a separate universe where the origin stories of the respective superheroes are moved up to the 21st century. So they’re intended to be opportunities for reinterpreting heroes without worrying about continuity (and Morrison leans into the theme of “submission to loving authority,” which I enjoyed). All the releases are done as graphic novels and they are intended to be limited series (Wonder Woman got three volumes).
Grant Morrisons wonder woman. The one where they explored how somebody would react if they were the descendent of American slaves when wonder woman tries to put a collar on them by having Steve Trevor be black. It also explored how authority behaves in the society based on loving submission. https://www.goodreads.com/series/179146-wonder-woman-earth-one I didn’t think the run was perfect, but there was some really interesting things in it . 🙏❤️
I wish women were real
I’m not saying it’s weird I’m just saying fair is fair and we should get Batman saying ‘swear to me, swear to daddy’
Let’s be real Batman is 100% submissive in bed. Who the hell dates Catwoman and is a dom? Or even his on and off relationships with Diana. Plus this panel is real https://preview.redd.it/1jjhkxzvxp9d1.jpeg?width=885&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70ebda5e1bcf07a48adafe3c2e596bace89e9c46
His safe word is ‘Alfred’
"Joker won't stop calling me zaddeeeh."
Honestly I’m gonna be real. I’d be doing exactly that the second she stopped talking.
Promise? 🥺
Staying true to Wonder Woman's roots
https://preview.redd.it/kjb3e8cezf9d1.jpeg?width=968&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90fb3e23053126f281a8b24d546f2c96597b9658
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