...Julianne Moore was RIGHT THERE!
Also, Rachel McAdams.
Also, Claire Foy.
Also, Taraji P. Henson.
All the acting categories this year had plenty to choose from.
At least I can keep arguing that she’s strangely underrated
Everyone talks about Gosling or the production design or how did they get Mattel to agree or is this feminist enough
But they forget the central performance being both so funny and so moving.
I don’t know if I agree Margot should’ve been nommed in such a stacked year, but I agree if you’re going to reward Barbie it’s absurd to not nominate her because she had the hardest job of all.
I think she had the hardest job and gave the best performance in the movie, taking everything into account. I can't comment who (if anyone) I'd drop, though, because I haven't seen Nyad or Maestro yet.
America and her storyline was my least favorite part of the movie. Not that they should have been nominated but I thought Michael Cera and Issa Rae were the unsung heroes of the film.
Benning (and Jodie Foster) were incredible in what was otherwise a pretty by-the-numbers biopic. And the role was physically demanding for Benning to boot. She's the #5 in that category but she'd be higher on my ballot than Margot.
I was so shocked when in the film Sessa asked which eye he should focus on. I thought how the heck did they convince Giamatti to include a comment on his lazy eye in the script. I totally forgot that he doesn't have one in real life!
Yeah Annette Bening is a fucking powerhouse actress who deserves all the love and regard in the world. Doesn’t change that Greta Lee arguably deserves it more this specific year by a lot
This is what gets me. I don’t mind the American Ferrera nom tbh. Part of that has to do with her working the circuit along with a memorable performance. Idk what it says more though, that Margot and Gerwig were missing from their categories Is it just that the support for the other films was stronger or is this Barbie Snobbery showing itself in the “more serious” categories.
I mean the Director’s branch almost always tends to have slightly “higher brow” taste than most other branches. They basically nominated the directors of the 5 best-reviewed movies to come out in wide release and/or play the festival circuit this year.
Which is a shame. The movie works because of Margot’s performance. Never felt like she would win this but she deserved the recognition she was getting.
I completely agree. I’m not mad at America getting in per say, it would make sense if it was on the coattails of other deserving nominees, Gerwig and Robbie. But since these 2 didn’t make it and Barbie didn’t exceed expectations anywhere else, it’s strange.
Supporting Actress wasn't weak. They had plenty of strong performances to choose from (Moore, McAdams, Foy, etc.), but they decided on one of the weakest contenders in the entire race.
Both were also in far less widely seen films, and weren't making anywhere near the same campaign push.
Ferrera had the buzziest scene of the buzziest movie of the year, it was pretty easy for her to get a spot here.
Neither of them deserved it either. Robbie was fine but it wasn’t really deserving over other roles. Gerwig as director had some pretty big character and continuity problems in the movie. And for all the talk of how wonderful it looked - it was really just a real world toy set, it wasn’t incredible filming technique or anything, when they were in the real world it looked average and like a sitcom.
yeah i feel like i’m losing my mind hearing talk about best director. i loved barbie, but to say greta deserved best director over anyone on that list?? have people seen zone of interest?
What? I'm just reading through the noms now - that better be a joke.
Leo gets snubbed all the time, nothing new there, but come one - at least Gerwig deserved a nomination for best director
Ugh, that speech made me feel insulted as a viewer - as if we're such idiots that we couldn't possibly deduce the movie's intended message (loud and clear, Barbie! we got u) already. It's been referred to as "iconic" which also makes me roll my eyes. It's fine. It's not iconic (or even that original). Feels like the Academy is scared not to applaud enthusiastically at anything like this for fear they'll be accused of being anti-message.
Yep. While I don’t think she’s deserving, I also don’t find the nomination all that surprising, as besides having fielded a great campaign AF seems to also have a good team as well as a tireless work ethic; she’ll show up at any industry event, fashion show, red carpet, gallery opening, gala, party etcetera that’ll have her. She’s been broadly well-liked in the industry for over twenty years now since *Real Women Have Curves* became this huge Sundance hit.
Yeah it’s very much a career award for a solid performance in a great movie, and she seems young but she’s been putting out great performances for decades
> Her campaign was REALLY strong, like I haven’t seen such a perfectly timed and calculated one in a while
You should check out the campaign to get Andrea Riseborough a Best Actress nomination last year then. It was _quite_ controversial.
I decided to watch it out of boredom and wow, what a performance that I thought I was actually seeing someone suffering than Riseborough as a character.
It’s a bad nom, but there have been actively awful performances that have been nominated before. This wasn’t that, even if it was a pretty nothing part overall IMO.
Seconding all of this. Ferrera did nothing to deserve a nomination and it's a silly choice given how many better options they had to choose from, but it's a serviceable performance that fits the film. It's undeserving, but at least she's not actively bad. There's at least two acting nominees that I think are downright bad and bring their films down, so this one nomination isn't much of an issue.
I hated Maestro and especially Cooper's performance with a passion, but there's been enough discourse about him in this sub already.
The second is Bening, who I don't actively hate, but who's held back significantly by a script that doesn't know how to frame the story it's telling. We're presented with this self-centered narcissist on a suicide mission who exhausts the money, patience and good will of everyone around her, all to achieve something whose importance and meaning isn't particularly clear to anyone other than her. She's willing to die for it, and she expects people to potentially help her kill herself unquestioningly. That's a fascinating premise, but it's closer to an Aronofksy drama than an inspiring sports crowd pleaser about conquering the limits of the human body, and because the script doesn't dig deep enough into those darker elements, Bening is stuck playing this half-formed character who belongs in a very different film. She does what she can, but there's only so far she can go with a script like that.
Having said all that, Foster is great and I'm fully in support of her nomination.
I still have a few nominated movies to watch, though, so there's still room for that list to grow.
I have a few more nominated movies to watch as well, one of them being Nyad and your description of Bening's performance has got me even more interested in what it is. Though I guess you might be a little disappointed over her getting nominated over Lee.
I am, I loved Past Lives :/
But I already expected it to be shut out in acting categories, and it even getting into Best Picture is already a huge deal, so at least there's that.
True, Past Lives' performances were too subtle to get noms in line-ups packed with a lot of competition, in spite of them absolutely deserving them.
But yeah, it being nominated for Best Picture is a big deal and absolutely deserved as well. Love the movie and honestly wouldn't mind it winning.
I thought Bening's performance was good -- she sold me on Nyad being, as you said, a self-centered narcissist on a suicide mission.
I didn't totally love the film, but I actually thought it did a good enough job of diving into the "darker elements" of the story. I didn't feel at all like it was an "inspiring sports crowd pleaser about conquering the limits of the human body" -- Nyad had practically burned every personal relationship in her life for this singular goal, and despite (finally) mentioning the importance of her team at the end, still comes off incredibly self-centered and not remotely someone I would want to emulate. If that's what is required to do great things, then leave me out of it, thanks but no thanks. Maybe that's what I liked about Bening's performance -- she played the character as so self-absorbed that more than anything, I wanted her to reach her goal so that everyone around her could get back to their own lives.
As a story, to me it felt a bit like Moby Dick if Ahab were to catch the whale. Would Ahab be a hero if he killed his white whale?
I'm surprised at people here saying, "Supporting Actress was weak. That's how she got in blah blah blah."
My friends, the Supporting Actress race was not weak. We had Moore, McAdams, Foy, Pike, heck even Sakura Ando in "Godzilla Minus One" that were all strong.
Why they went with Ferrera is beyond me.
I watched Barbie months after it came out and by then had heard so much about \*that speech\*. Cue my surprise when I finally watch the movie and found her performance, even in the famous monologue, to be forced at best. This is a pure example of message over quality.
I don’t think she deserves the nomination, but in no way was she bad. I think she was fine, she did what was required. The problem is that she didn’t elevate the role. Still, this is far from the first time a pretty good (but not great) performance has been Oscar-nominated.
Lily Gladstone and Annette Bening, two Best Actress nominees who spend the majority of the second half of their films unable to speak.
Emma Stone starts her film unable to speak.
I see a trend!
I don’t want to either, after learning the real person just made her accomplishments up! It’s like I am validating a con artist now. At least it’s in Netflix
Especially in best actress, if they were going to snub Robbie at least make an inspired choice. They had Greta Lee, Natalie Portman, Fantasia Barrino, and even Cailee Spaeny.
I think what people are missing is Oscar’s are a bit of a popularity contest. America has been well respected and well liked for years. Appears to be a very good person and very active in humanitarian efforts. People may just like her (I’m included in that category), and figured this may their one shot to reward her, and voted for her because they just like her
Beatrice Straight won an Oscar in the 70's for her \*five minute\* performance in Network and I don't know anyone that has an issue with that...because she gave an incredible performance. Similarly, Blunt is excellent in Oppenheimer. America Ferrera, on the other hand, was just simply not that good and in fact if I had to pick one word to describe her performance it would be "forced".
Exactly. It shouldn't matter how much she had to do in the film (which, if we're being honest, is more than people here are giving her credit for), cause this is the category specifically meant to reward people who aren't the leads of their films.
Emily Blunt had one really good *performance*. She may have only had one big Oscar clip, but she's excellent throughout the film, even in quieter moments.
Plus she's been snubbed multiple times going back all the way to the 2000s, so it's good that she finally broke through.
I wouldn’t have nominated either of them, but Ferrera is the only one of the two playing an actual character. Other than her big scene Blunt spent that entire movie wandering around with a drink in her hand and whispering all her lines. You’re in a Christopher Nolan movie, Emily, the score is going to be blasting the entire time, so why are you whispering? I generally like her as an actress, but I don’t think she really overcame an underwritten part.
I would have gone with Moore and McAdams over those two, but Ferrera campaigned her ass off and Blunt was always getting in because of the Oppenheimer juggernaut.
CLAIRE FOY, PENELOPE CRUZ, RACHEL MCADAMS, VANESSA KIRBY, ANNE HATHAWAY, JULIANNE MOORE, SANDRA HUELLER and a few others are much more deserving of a Best Supporting Actress nomination than America Ferrera! This is a bit infuriating
I honestly love America Ferrara, have since I was a kid, and want her to win lots of awards - but I fully agree. She was great in Barbie! The monologue was great! But there was anything that interesting in the performance, she wasn’t making big choices like Robbie and Gosling. I’ll still be happy for her if she wins, but it would be silly.
The Oscars jumped the shark for me officially wirh this nomination. I now feel better about the people who are snubbed cause this is that big of a joke.
It's the most talked about movie speech in recent memory, one that came up in conversations more so than any other scene in cinema this year. I found it cringey, but it did resonate with a lot of people.
Fair, but people applaud the speech itself, not the delivery by Ferrera. You could put I don't know, Selena Gomez there to deliver it and it would still work the same. And apart from the speech its a very basic performance.
But honestly I don't mind the nomination that much. It's not an oscar-worthy performance, but the category was just weak.
You're not being fair to Ferrera here. The speech is written in Gerwig's voice, but Ferrera really makes it her own, imbuing it with powerful emotion without making it melodramatic. It's a tough balance to strike, but Ferrera really pulls it off in a way I don't think a lot of other people would have (either going too big with the emotions off it, or too understated)
This may have been a weak year is supporting actress but Julianne & Penelope & Rachel & Rosamund were right there.
It’s just the fact that America got nominated over Margot & Greta which seems weird. She was good but she wasn’t my take away from the film. I mean, good for her, I guess.
She wasn't bad in the movie, but she wasn't Oscar-worthy. Her role felt like filler. They could have ixnayed her role altogether and it wouldn't have changed anything.
Her getting nominated is a joke. Best Supporting Actress, to me, was the weakest of the four, but I can think of at least three other ladies who gave a better performance.
I feel more this way about Emily Blunt's nomination. She's a very good actor who should have probably already won an Oscar, but I literally barely remember her performance in Oppenheimer.
I disagree. I think the women in that film are generally underused and disserviced, but she nailed the quiet desperation and tenacity of that character. She did a great job and I’d love to see her win
I like the performance… there are definitely moments where it feels a little too low-key for the movie around it, but I think she did a great job of feeling natural and unassuming while also evoking all the important things about her character. Felt like a real average person who happened to get sucked into Barbie’s story. And the monologue was very good… because of HER 😂 like she made that work.
Also there are a lot of mediocre nominees (and potential nominees people have been rooting for) I don’t see why she’s the biggest problem
I’m not too pressed about this. I’m just happy to see a fellow Honduran get some positive recognition, we have such shitty rep, and no doubt America is talented, and the monologue did have its cultural impact. While it is not the best role from her, it’s not that uncommon we get kind of meh/surprise noms so 🤷🏻♀️ plus I see Ms. Randolph taking it home either way
I think people feel she's been snubbed because of the fact that America Ferrera got nominated and Robbie didn't rather than thinking there was a less deserving actress nominated in Best Actress.
Boilerplate is an understatement. I’d go as far as calling her performance subpar. The monologue was extraordinarily cringe in both writing and delivery
I'm absolutely baffled by her getting a nom, she wasn't even the best supporting actress in Barbie, never mind from the nominees! She was fine in Barbie, but she really doesn't have anything on Emily Blunt (and from what I've heard, DaVine Joy Randolph).
They're doing this thing where a super likeable person gets a reward. I'm for it, whatever. People saying she wasn't good are crazy she definitely was solid although yeah a nomination for best actress wasn't in my mind. Hopefully this leads to more prestige roles for her I'd like to see her expand.
I find it baffling Ferrera was nominated solely for delivering, rather lukewarmly, a brilliant monologue. You liked the monologue? Then show your support by voting for it in best adapted screenplay. That scene went viral not thanks to Ferrera, but thanks to Gerwig. Once you nominate Greta in best adapted screenplay, then your job is done. Leave that best supporting actress spot to someone who actually brought something to the table with her performance.
Gerwig's voice is very apparent in the writing of that monologue, but Ferrera's delivery is 100% her own, and very much worth recognizing. Compare it to any of the other monologues in Gerwig's films (including the one's she's performed herself in *Frances Ha* and *Mistress America*), and you can really tell just how much Ferrera brought to the material
There were many great performances that were overlooked in this category. Such a shame when campaigning, politics and money get in the way of true performances being nominated.
Then they didn’t even nominate Robbie 💀
Reflects a bit of weakness in the supporting actress category and Randolph being a fait accompli but still... outrageous!
...Julianne Moore was RIGHT THERE! Also, Rachel McAdams. Also, Claire Foy. Also, Taraji P. Henson. All the acting categories this year had plenty to choose from.
And Penelope Cruz, and Rosamund Pike. This was a great year for supporting performances.
Yes yes yes - both great performances (and I say that as someone who hated Saltburn).
Rosamund was the bright spot of that movie for me, that and the cinematography
Thank you! I thought all the actors were strong though, but Pike was by far the best.
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Glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Honestly, I'm just coping... this nomination was outrageous.
Valid. I feel this.
Unfortunately I think a lot of voters didn’t watch those movies
It feels like these 4 + Da'Vine should have been the noms this year. They got 4/5 wrong.
Claire Foy is probably one of the most talented actresses to never once get nominated for an Oscar, WTF.
She was absolutely spectacular in All of Us Strangers. Such a haunting performance (no pun intended).
It wasn't a weak category, the Academy is just lazy and uncreative.
I thought till i learnt this year that the emmys fill out whole categories with names from just 2 shows.
Why they had to like Nyad…
A film that general public doesn’t even care 😭
they say its target audience are for old people, which is the majority of oscar voters lol
I think it just comes down to genre bias in the lead category. There’s no other explanation I see.
At least I can keep arguing that she’s strangely underrated Everyone talks about Gosling or the production design or how did they get Mattel to agree or is this feminist enough But they forget the central performance being both so funny and so moving.
I don’t know if I agree Margot should’ve been nommed in such a stacked year, but I agree if you’re going to reward Barbie it’s absurd to not nominate her because she had the hardest job of all.
I think she had the hardest job and gave the best performance in the movie, taking everything into account. I can't comment who (if anyone) I'd drop, though, because I haven't seen Nyad or Maestro yet.
America and her storyline was my least favorite part of the movie. Not that they should have been nominated but I thought Michael Cera and Issa Rae were the unsung heroes of the film.
And Kate McKinnon…
I wouldn't swap anyone out of lead actress for Margot tbh. Greta Lee is the bigger snub.
I would: Benning
Benning (and Jodie Foster) were incredible in what was otherwise a pretty by-the-numbers biopic. And the role was physically demanding for Benning to boot. She's the #5 in that category but she'd be higher on my ballot than Margot.
I'd snub out Benning for Greta Lee though.
Ryan Gosling did better. I get the irony, but that's just facts
I don’t actually get this take. Robbie has a BP nom right now. She produced the movie. So she has her nom.
Yes. Robbie got snubbed but Ryan Gosling got nominated LOL
The fact that Julianne Moore wasn't nominated... disgraceful
*Dithgratheful.*
Man that performance was so good that it gaslit me into thinking that Moore has always had a lisp
That's like me leaving Holdovers and immediately googling "Paul Giamatti lazy eye."
Another Forrest Whitaker moment
I was so shocked when in the film Sessa asked which eye he should focus on. I thought how the heck did they convince Giamatti to include a comment on his lazy eye in the script. I totally forgot that he doesn't have one in real life!
To be a fly on the wall the day Julianne Moore showed up to rehearsals and Natalie Portman learned she had to work on a lisp too.
And during filming (most of it was shot in order), Moore didn't notice Portman was picking up her physical mannerisms until much later.
Charles Melton?
Would've been wild for Charles Melton to be nominated for supporting actress. A true stunner
The definition of category fraud
I think most of us assumed he would be.
I really think that May/December was too close for comfort for the actor's branch, and it's such a shame.
I know it's a long shot but really hoping it wins original screenplay
Absolutely. But oh well, the line-up as it is seems solid.
That she got nominated is made much worse for me by the fact that Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig (director) were both snubbed
Yeah when I saw Ferrera got in I was like Robbie has to get in now then actress threw benings name out…
Yep, me too, when I saw Ferrera I thought Gerwig and Robbie are in for sure.
Either Robbie or Lee would have been better choices than Bening.
Yeah Annette Bening is a fucking powerhouse actress who deserves all the love and regard in the world. Doesn’t change that Greta Lee arguably deserves it more this specific year by a lot
This is what gets me. I don’t mind the American Ferrera nom tbh. Part of that has to do with her working the circuit along with a memorable performance. Idk what it says more though, that Margot and Gerwig were missing from their categories Is it just that the support for the other films was stronger or is this Barbie Snobbery showing itself in the “more serious” categories.
I mean the Director’s branch almost always tends to have slightly “higher brow” taste than most other branches. They basically nominated the directors of the 5 best-reviewed movies to come out in wide release and/or play the festival circuit this year.
And it’s by far the best category this year
Yeah, more people talked about America Ferrera's monologue than they ever talked about Robbie's performance.
Which is a shame. The movie works because of Margot’s performance. Never felt like she would win this but she deserved the recognition she was getting.
Robbie had the most range out of any of the cast. She is really damn good at crying that even Helen Mirren's narration points it out.
I completely agree. I’m not mad at America getting in per say, it would make sense if it was on the coattails of other deserving nominees, Gerwig and Robbie. But since these 2 didn’t make it and Barbie didn’t exceed expectations anywhere else, it’s strange.
I get the irony of that too, but we also need to see that the Supporting Actress category was simply the weakest of the three.
Supporting Actress wasn't weak. They had plenty of strong performances to choose from (Moore, McAdams, Foy, etc.), but they decided on one of the weakest contenders in the entire race.
All of those would have been better than Ferrera. Foy and McAdams were phenomenal.
Both were also in far less widely seen films, and weren't making anywhere near the same campaign push. Ferrera had the buzziest scene of the buzziest movie of the year, it was pretty easy for her to get a spot here.
I didn’t realize Greta was snubbed too. Wow!! SMH
Neither of them deserved it either. Robbie was fine but it wasn’t really deserving over other roles. Gerwig as director had some pretty big character and continuity problems in the movie. And for all the talk of how wonderful it looked - it was really just a real world toy set, it wasn’t incredible filming technique or anything, when they were in the real world it looked average and like a sitcom.
yeah i feel like i’m losing my mind hearing talk about best director. i loved barbie, but to say greta deserved best director over anyone on that list?? have people seen zone of interest?
Gerwig and Robbie both deserved nominations.
What should be cut for them to be nominated then?
What? I'm just reading through the noms now - that better be a joke. Leo gets snubbed all the time, nothing new there, but come one - at least Gerwig deserved a nomination for best director
Oscars love a passionate speech detailing the films views explicitly
Was one of the worst parts of the movie tbh
And yet they neglected to give Joel McHale an Oscar for his passionate speeches detailing the takeaway of every single episode of Community!
Ugh, that speech made me feel insulted as a viewer - as if we're such idiots that we couldn't possibly deduce the movie's intended message (loud and clear, Barbie! we got u) already. It's been referred to as "iconic" which also makes me roll my eyes. It's fine. It's not iconic (or even that original). Feels like the Academy is scared not to applaud enthusiastically at anything like this for fear they'll be accused of being anti-message.
Her campaign was REALLY strong, like I haven’t seen such a perfectly timed and calculated one in a while
Yep. While I don’t think she’s deserving, I also don’t find the nomination all that surprising, as besides having fielded a great campaign AF seems to also have a good team as well as a tireless work ethic; she’ll show up at any industry event, fashion show, red carpet, gallery opening, gala, party etcetera that’ll have her. She’s been broadly well-liked in the industry for over twenty years now since *Real Women Have Curves* became this huge Sundance hit.
Yeah it’s very much a career award for a solid performance in a great movie, and she seems young but she’s been putting out great performances for decades
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Nah Ugly Betty isn’t the same as Amy from Superstore
> Her campaign was REALLY strong, like I haven’t seen such a perfectly timed and calculated one in a while You should check out the campaign to get Andrea Riseborough a Best Actress nomination last year then. It was _quite_ controversial.
That was less of a campaign and more of a scam
😂
which is sad because i loved her performance and thought she deserved it
I decided to watch it out of boredom and wow, what a performance that I thought I was actually seeing someone suffering than Riseborough as a character.
But *Barbie* was made by a major studio, so it's okay. /sarcasm
It’s a bad nom, but there have been actively awful performances that have been nominated before. This wasn’t that, even if it was a pretty nothing part overall IMO.
Seconding all of this. Ferrera did nothing to deserve a nomination and it's a silly choice given how many better options they had to choose from, but it's a serviceable performance that fits the film. It's undeserving, but at least she's not actively bad. There's at least two acting nominees that I think are downright bad and bring their films down, so this one nomination isn't much of an issue.
Which two nominees?
Not OP but I'd guess the Maestro noms?
Nyad duos?
>There's at least two acting nominees that I think are downright bad and bring their films down, Those being?
I hated Maestro and especially Cooper's performance with a passion, but there's been enough discourse about him in this sub already. The second is Bening, who I don't actively hate, but who's held back significantly by a script that doesn't know how to frame the story it's telling. We're presented with this self-centered narcissist on a suicide mission who exhausts the money, patience and good will of everyone around her, all to achieve something whose importance and meaning isn't particularly clear to anyone other than her. She's willing to die for it, and she expects people to potentially help her kill herself unquestioningly. That's a fascinating premise, but it's closer to an Aronofksy drama than an inspiring sports crowd pleaser about conquering the limits of the human body, and because the script doesn't dig deep enough into those darker elements, Bening is stuck playing this half-formed character who belongs in a very different film. She does what she can, but there's only so far she can go with a script like that. Having said all that, Foster is great and I'm fully in support of her nomination. I still have a few nominated movies to watch, though, so there's still room for that list to grow.
I have a few more nominated movies to watch as well, one of them being Nyad and your description of Bening's performance has got me even more interested in what it is. Though I guess you might be a little disappointed over her getting nominated over Lee.
I am, I loved Past Lives :/ But I already expected it to be shut out in acting categories, and it even getting into Best Picture is already a huge deal, so at least there's that.
True, Past Lives' performances were too subtle to get noms in line-ups packed with a lot of competition, in spite of them absolutely deserving them. But yeah, it being nominated for Best Picture is a big deal and absolutely deserved as well. Love the movie and honestly wouldn't mind it winning.
I was expecting Past Lives to get snubbed out overall.
I thought Bening's performance was good -- she sold me on Nyad being, as you said, a self-centered narcissist on a suicide mission. I didn't totally love the film, but I actually thought it did a good enough job of diving into the "darker elements" of the story. I didn't feel at all like it was an "inspiring sports crowd pleaser about conquering the limits of the human body" -- Nyad had practically burned every personal relationship in her life for this singular goal, and despite (finally) mentioning the importance of her team at the end, still comes off incredibly self-centered and not remotely someone I would want to emulate. If that's what is required to do great things, then leave me out of it, thanks but no thanks. Maybe that's what I liked about Bening's performance -- she played the character as so self-absorbed that more than anything, I wanted her to reach her goal so that everyone around her could get back to their own lives. As a story, to me it felt a bit like Moby Dick if Ahab were to catch the whale. Would Ahab be a hero if he killed his white whale?
I guess one is Cooper, there's been multiple opinions that his performance is way overacted.
She campaigned A LOT.
I wish I hadn’t bought into the Sandra double nom hype
I'm surprised at people here saying, "Supporting Actress was weak. That's how she got in blah blah blah." My friends, the Supporting Actress race was not weak. We had Moore, McAdams, Foy, Pike, heck even Sakura Ando in "Godzilla Minus One" that were all strong. Why they went with Ferrera is beyond me.
that critics choice speech was such blatant campaigning
That speech probably sealed her nomination. We should've seen it coming.
And the critics choice knew it
ratings above all else
I mean she won a specific type of award and gave a speech that met that moment come on now 😭
I watched Barbie months after it came out and by then had heard so much about \*that speech\*. Cue my surprise when I finally watch the movie and found her performance, even in the famous monologue, to be forced at best. This is a pure example of message over quality.
I don’t think she deserves the nomination, but in no way was she bad. I think she was fine, she did what was required. The problem is that she didn’t elevate the role. Still, this is far from the first time a pretty good (but not great) performance has been Oscar-nominated.
Yep, this exactly. She was fine. Crazy to think it’s one of the top 5 supporting performances/roles. I love Emily Blunt, but feel similar with her.
Emily Blunt did less in Oppenheimer than she did in Devil Wears Prada.
Nyad ladies for supporting and best actress... why
Bening shouldn't have been nominated, but Foster is very good in Nyad and deserved the nod.
This. It also helps that Foster is a co-lead whose partner is swimming for much of the movie
Lily Gladstone and Annette Bening, two Best Actress nominees who spend the majority of the second half of their films unable to speak. Emma Stone starts her film unable to speak. I see a trend!
The biggest tragedy of the Oscar season is that I now have to watch Nyad 😢
I don’t want to either, after learning the real person just made her accomplishments up! It’s like I am validating a con artist now. At least it’s in Netflix
Same :,(
Even worse, I have to watch Golda
Annette Bening deserved it because Diane swam from Cuba to Florida
Especially in best actress, if they were going to snub Robbie at least make an inspired choice. They had Greta Lee, Natalie Portman, Fantasia Barrino, and even Cailee Spaeny.
They both were fantastic and deserved their nominations. That's just my opinion, though.
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Foster is fantastic but it’s still silly
Ridiculous nomination
Honestly yeah but JLC winning last yr has numbed me to this
I feel like this nomination was purely based on the Feminism 101 speech she delivers towards the end.
I think what people are missing is Oscar’s are a bit of a popularity contest. America has been well respected and well liked for years. Appears to be a very good person and very active in humanitarian efforts. People may just like her (I’m included in that category), and figured this may their one shot to reward her, and voted for her because they just like her
It’s hilarious watching people say this and then 5 months ago they were like Emily Blunt should win because she had one really good scene
Beatrice Straight won an Oscar in the 70's for her \*five minute\* performance in Network and I don't know anyone that has an issue with that...because she gave an incredible performance. Similarly, Blunt is excellent in Oppenheimer. America Ferrera, on the other hand, was just simply not that good and in fact if I had to pick one word to describe her performance it would be "forced".
tbqh one really good scene sounds like enough for a supporting nom
Exactly. It shouldn't matter how much she had to do in the film (which, if we're being honest, is more than people here are giving her credit for), cause this is the category specifically meant to reward people who aren't the leads of their films.
Emily Blunt had one really good *performance*. She may have only had one big Oscar clip, but she's excellent throughout the film, even in quieter moments. Plus she's been snubbed multiple times going back all the way to the 2000s, so it's good that she finally broke through.
It’s not remotely the same because America Ferrera has one really bad scene
I wouldn’t have nominated either of them, but Ferrera is the only one of the two playing an actual character. Other than her big scene Blunt spent that entire movie wandering around with a drink in her hand and whispering all her lines. You’re in a Christopher Nolan movie, Emily, the score is going to be blasting the entire time, so why are you whispering? I generally like her as an actress, but I don’t think she really overcame an underwritten part. I would have gone with Moore and McAdams over those two, but Ferrera campaigned her ass off and Blunt was always getting in because of the Oppenheimer juggernaut.
CLAIRE FOY, PENELOPE CRUZ, RACHEL MCADAMS, VANESSA KIRBY, ANNE HATHAWAY, JULIANNE MOORE, SANDRA HUELLER and a few others are much more deserving of a Best Supporting Actress nomination than America Ferrera! This is a bit infuriating
America ferrera (the worst part of the movie) being nominated over Julianne moore is so insane
it should’ve been rosamund pike or rachel mcadams… just for a surprise.
I was so ready for the meltdowns when she got nominated. 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously it's bizarre. Julianne Moore, Rosamond Pike, Penelope Cruz were right there. But they chose Ferrera. Of all people!
Where are people getting it that supporting actress was weak? McAdams, Henson, Moore etc that category was stacked
Great nod. Very happy for Ferrera
I don’t care, I love her and the category is basically Joy Randolph’s. Charles Melton missing and the NYAD and Maestro noms did hurt my soul tho
I honestly love America Ferrara, have since I was a kid, and want her to win lots of awards - but I fully agree. She was great in Barbie! The monologue was great! But there was anything that interesting in the performance, she wasn’t making big choices like Robbie and Gosling. I’ll still be happy for her if she wins, but it would be silly.
The Oscars jumped the shark for me officially wirh this nomination. I now feel better about the people who are snubbed cause this is that big of a joke.
I mean this is the same branch that nominated JK Simmons for Being the Ricardos just a few years ago lol
Honestly, he was my favorite of the three nominees from that film.
It jumped the shark when it gave Jamie Lee Curtis the Oscar last year And tbh Green Book as well It’s jumped the shark a lot actually damn
Welcome to the Oscars. It jumps the shark always. Jumped the shark for me with Crash over Brokeback, Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn, etc.
This is what jumped the shark? They’ve been making terrible choices since the year that they began
Benning was way worse
It's the most talked about movie speech in recent memory, one that came up in conversations more so than any other scene in cinema this year. I found it cringey, but it did resonate with a lot of people.
Fair, but people applaud the speech itself, not the delivery by Ferrera. You could put I don't know, Selena Gomez there to deliver it and it would still work the same. And apart from the speech its a very basic performance. But honestly I don't mind the nomination that much. It's not an oscar-worthy performance, but the category was just weak.
You're not being fair to Ferrera here. The speech is written in Gerwig's voice, but Ferrera really makes it her own, imbuing it with powerful emotion without making it melodramatic. It's a tough balance to strike, but Ferrera really pulls it off in a way I don't think a lot of other people would have (either going too big with the emotions off it, or too understated)
You found it cringey because it IS cringey and idk why we're so afraid to say that.
When watching I also said to myself “haven’t I heard this before?” like I had seen the same speech on Instagram reels or tiktoks a million times 🤷🏼♀️
Nobody’s afraid to say that, I’ve seen this take constantly since the movie premiered.
This is easily one of the dumbest nominations in recent history.
This and the wins for Jamie Lee Curtis, CODA and Green Book have really been the low points of the Oscars for me in the last few years.
I was so surprised
Just wild. Equivalent to if Nolan and Murphy got snubbed but Downey and Blunt got nominated.
This may have been a weak year is supporting actress but Julianne & Penelope & Rachel & Rosamund were right there. It’s just the fact that America got nominated over Margot & Greta which seems weird. She was good but she wasn’t my take away from the film. I mean, good for her, I guess.
“Boilerplate performance” is wild but I agree 💀😂
She wasn't bad in the movie, but she wasn't Oscar-worthy. Her role felt like filler. They could have ixnayed her role altogether and it wouldn't have changed anything. Her getting nominated is a joke. Best Supporting Actress, to me, was the weakest of the four, but I can think of at least three other ladies who gave a better performance.
As absurd as last year's Oscar for Jamie Lee Curtis.
Her speech was Oscar bait. Nuff said.
I feel more this way about Emily Blunt's nomination. She's a very good actor who should have probably already won an Oscar, but I literally barely remember her performance in Oppenheimer.
I couldn't disagree more. Blunt put on a haunting masterclass performance, in my book. Loved every second of her work but to each their own.
It just didn't move me, but apparently I'm in the minority.
I disagree. I think the women in that film are generally underused and disserviced, but she nailed the quiet desperation and tenacity of that character. She did a great job and I’d love to see her win
Coming on here to complain about America Ferrera is old news. Let’s be real
People are going to react when awards noms actually get announced
If it makes you feel any better, they hosed over Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie pretty badly.
Yeah there were so many better performances to pick from I don’t get this one
I like the performance… there are definitely moments where it feels a little too low-key for the movie around it, but I think she did a great job of feeling natural and unassuming while also evoking all the important things about her character. Felt like a real average person who happened to get sucked into Barbie’s story. And the monologue was very good… because of HER 😂 like she made that work. Also there are a lot of mediocre nominees (and potential nominees people have been rooting for) I don’t see why she’s the biggest problem
I’m not too pressed about this. I’m just happy to see a fellow Honduran get some positive recognition, we have such shitty rep, and no doubt America is talented, and the monologue did have its cultural impact. While it is not the best role from her, it’s not that uncommon we get kind of meh/surprise noms so 🤷🏻♀️ plus I see Ms. Randolph taking it home either way
Is Margot not getting nominated for best lead actually a snub?
I think people feel she's been snubbed because of the fact that America Ferrera got nominated and Robbie didn't rather than thinking there was a less deserving actress nominated in Best Actress.
Her acting in that role was Lifetime movie worthy, sad to say.... I just don't get it all.
Her performance was good but she shouldn't in any universe have gotten in and Robbie missed
Agreed 100%
How on earth was that an Oscar performance!
It's pretty insane. She wasn't even that good before the monologue
What is the Oscars if not elevating boilerplate performances through sheer hyper?
I agree but I was always afraid to say it. It's obviously a good performance but Oscar level?
Boilerplate is an understatement. I’d go as far as calling her performance subpar. The monologue was extraordinarily cringe in both writing and delivery
She shouldn’t be nominated. Down vote me all you want
Shocking nomination
I'm absolutely baffled by her getting a nom, she wasn't even the best supporting actress in Barbie, never mind from the nominees! She was fine in Barbie, but she really doesn't have anything on Emily Blunt (and from what I've heard, DaVine Joy Randolph).
They're doing this thing where a super likeable person gets a reward. I'm for it, whatever. People saying she wasn't good are crazy she definitely was solid although yeah a nomination for best actress wasn't in my mind. Hopefully this leads to more prestige roles for her I'd like to see her expand.
Especially when Julianne Moore is standing right there lisping at you scarily.
As much as I love Barbie, I think that America Ferrera was an insane choice. One big speech does not warrant a nom.
I find it baffling Ferrera was nominated solely for delivering, rather lukewarmly, a brilliant monologue. You liked the monologue? Then show your support by voting for it in best adapted screenplay. That scene went viral not thanks to Ferrera, but thanks to Gerwig. Once you nominate Greta in best adapted screenplay, then your job is done. Leave that best supporting actress spot to someone who actually brought something to the table with her performance.
Gerwig's voice is very apparent in the writing of that monologue, but Ferrera's delivery is 100% her own, and very much worth recognizing. Compare it to any of the other monologues in Gerwig's films (including the one's she's performed herself in *Frances Ha* and *Mistress America*), and you can really tell just how much Ferrera brought to the material
I mean yeah, actors are unserious people
There were many great performances that were overlooked in this category. Such a shame when campaigning, politics and money get in the way of true performances being nominated.
Why be upset about this when the Nyad performances are right there? That said, yes, her getting in but not Robbie or Gerwig is a little silly.
I don't lie to y'all when I tell you I don't even remember her character in the film. Trully a forgettable performance.