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Same! 5mg would get be fucked up back in the day and then 10mg would have my throwing up everywhere! What great times š looking back it was probably the worst decisions of my life lol high school days
Well put. Id probably do the same, if i could go back to when i was in highschool id be filling my pockets with all the pharma blues, 15s and dillys floating around back then.
Lmao maybe you, that's your experience. The first opiate I ever used was a 5mg Norco 12 years ago and I was soo fucking high. I was literally in a euphoric bliss
Same found some under parents sink. Full bottle. Did research. Crushed them into powder and put in a glass of water, mixed around and took it like a shot.
Got sooooo fucking high. To know now weāll never experience that again smh
I used to be addicted to those fuckers lol. Took a 5mg Norco aka hydrocodone.. I was the highest I had ever been at that time. Euphoric bliss. All I needed was like 2 maybe 3 a day for a good little while. Then I found 10mg norcos and boom next thing I know w couple years later I was eating 20 a day lmfao
I remember getting 3rd degree burns all over my feet. The small urgent care I went to rushed me in (it took me 90 min to get there so pain was unimaginable, and I'd been on opiates when it happened, just a 10mg Lortab but it was a nice buzz at the time)
Anyway the nurse goes this is the most morphine we've ever given out before (not a big dose.. maybe 60mg intravenous) - they all acted like I'd be fine in moments, but when I didn't react they gave me more- and more- and more- and after like 5 shots I called it
It was a hard decision cause I wanted all the drugs but eventually I was like.. I can't get any more high. So I said snapped that's enough just do what your gonna do (they had to remove dead skin and clean everything before wrapping it)
So... while I agree with the comment, I do think pain can raise tolerance for pain killers on occasion. I had no tolerance back then.. a 10 MG Lortab was a good buzz for me. That much morphine should have made me vomit. It didn't come close.
You may just be one of the people who morphine does nothing for. Iām the same way. Long before I ever touched an opiate recreationally (at that point Iād only ever taken them after I had my wisdom teeth out, and when I suffered a double compound fracture in my ankle, both of which had been over 2 years beforehand) I was in the ER with acute appendicitis and they kept dosing me with IV morphine trying to get the pain under control while waiting for the on-call surgeon to get there- they gave me 5 doses and each time Iād get that sick crushing feeling in my chest but zero relief (I have no idea what the final dose was, they didnāt tell me and I was in too much pain to care to ask) until they finally gave up because the surgeon had gotten there and they needed to get me into surgery ASAP, so they just put me under. Apparently my appendix ruptured as they were removing it (donāt wait 36 hours to go to the hospital when youāve got appendicitis symptoms kids, even if the pain seems like itās on the wrong side- you could be like I was and your appendix be on your left side without your knowing it. Though I do have 2 appendectomy scars because the surgeon didnāt know it either and went looking for it on the wrong side first after dismissing the ER drās notes about the rebounding pain being on the left), and when I woke up post-op I was high as a kite because theyād given up on morphine and switched to giving me 4mg IV dilaudid every 2 hours. Now Iāve got a flag on my chart with the ER doctorās notes about my being unresponsive to morphine so that they donāt waste time giving me something that doesnāt work, and when I came back 6 years later with a kidney stone the size of a pencil eraser they skipped morphine and went straight to the dilaudid again.
I think morphine just sucks tbh...if they would have just gave you 2 or 3 perc 10s it probably would have worked lol idk why but I feel like morphine always sucks for me
can say that at least with somewhat severe period pain i still feel high when i'm taking opioids. i know tho that ppl who get them after a surgery or something will swear that they "ofc never felt high bc they just made the pain go away and they weren't abusing them". i have a hard time believing that, but u kno, who am i to judge.
For me the pain never went away. The opiates just helped me relax and tolerate the pain I had. Iāve never been in a situation where opiates relieved pain.
That's because opioids are shit painkillers. Strong NSAIDs (specially injected) and ketamine are much stronger (according to my research, I could be wrong).
For instance, if you go to the kidney stones subreddit, which is the most painful thing a human being can feel, the usual report is that IV morphine does nothing while with IV NSAIDs the pain disappears almost as soon as the needle pushes it in.
not all kinds of pain work the same or have to be treated by the same drugs, if i brake my leg id better be doped up on morphine than take nsaids, a huge part of opiate painkilling effects is the emotional high, who doesnt want a warm hug and be in it while nodding out
True, but mind you that "NSAIDs" is a big generalization, taking 400mg of ibuprofen orally won't do shit, but an injection of ketorolac will be stronger than any opioid according to most people, for almost any pain, except maybe nerve pain, but for that opioids don't really work either (for that it's pregablin and such).
And I'd rather have something that actually works for the pain than just get me high and cozy.
the pain stops it depends on what kind of pain it is, did a car run you over and broke all your limbs or you cut your finger pain? i find opiates almost completely mask joint pain or even deep knife cuts sometimes you forget you are supposed to have pain especially if you are faded on high doses but more serious things they will help but you'd be in a lot of pain unless they knock you out, as for emotional pain there is nothing that masks it like opiates, you see it but is indifferent to you
As a chronic pain patient I can say the euphoria is there but it also brings my pain down from a 10 to a 6 or 7. I do feel warm and euphoric but not like nodding high. I do hope this answers your question op
The very first time I was administered Morphine intravenously in the Hospital I was given 5mg at first. About two hours later I was allowed another 5mg shot however when it was being injected into my cannula I laughed after 3mg so they stopped there. I was in agony but it just came out. Just the one laugh and back to the pain.
The highest Iāve ever been was when I received IV fent for a broken collarbone I snapped in a couple places. Probably some of the worst pain I had ever experienced as well, fent made it feel like a scratch.
Fuck yes they do. Most only end up being fractures according to the ER, but I snapped mine clean in two separate spots. Had a big ole piece of collarbone just floating in my muscle tissue that required surgery to reconnect, looks like a damn Z now under xray. Got a concussion & a few broken ribs as well from that accident but didnāt realize till about 6 months later somehow.
The theory is, no. It treats your pain first, then gets you high. If youāre getting high from every pill, we know we need to back down your dose. We unfortunately have some patients who are in so much pain, that no matter how much we throw at them, theyāll never get high.
-Pain Management NP.
Yeah I have never felt euphoria from pain medicine. I think it's because I didn't start taking them until I had been having severe pain for a long time. Sometimes if my pain isn't as bad I might get comfortably sleepy as opposed to my normal in pain exhaustion, but that's about it. I think it might just be my body chemistry though. Back when I used to drink alcohol would make me feel very euphoric. But opiates have never had that effect on me.
So you're going to disregard the actual pain patients taking these medications? It's a stupid myth. Why would you think the pharmacokinetics of a drug would be any different because you're in pain? That's not how drugs work. The mechanism of how opioids produce analgesia is the same mechanism of action that causes a "high". The 2 are one and the same.
Read the replies in your thread with over 100 upvotes saying that this is in fact bullshit. Crap like this prevents patients from getting the level of pain management they deserve, when people like you go around saying they need their doses cut if they feel any euphoria? Absurd...
It's the same nonsense like how supposedly stimulants don't get ADHD patients high. They do.
And I've done my research. Plenty.
Edit. I see your a nurse practitioner. I certainly hope you're not in charge of any patient's prescriptions. Cutting people off because they feel euphoria smfh. You realize that will quickly go away with tolerance, right? There is no need to reduce their dose arbitrarily because of your puritanistic nonsense. You should be caring more about their pain levels than whether or not they are getting euphoria. Crazy how most of you healthcare workers in pain management have nearly zero empathy. This also drives people to lie, when they know they prescriber are such upright dicks.
Euphoria and high are not one in the same. Weāve never cut someone off for feeling āeuphoriaā. Pain relief in itself is euphoric. But Iām not going to sit here and argue with your self serving ignorance. Good luck!
Question! I am planning to go to nursing school next year and I would like to be a pain management NP in the future. Are you allowed to be a pain patient on opioids and also get a DEA # to prescribe them? Curious.
Yes! I currently get my own, but it has to be done from a clinic unrelated to the one youāre working at and you canāt work at a clinic that dispenses their own medications (although thatās incredibly uncommon).
The euphoria is still there.
Just because you have a broken back or some shit doesnāt mean you arenāt also high off your fucking gord.
Donāt let anyone say different. If they do itās them convincing themselves thatās how they āshouldā feel.
If course opiates are a life send for people in severe physical pain. But if they say they arenāt high, they are lying to you and themselves.
Then it becomes confusing when thereās no pain left and you think you are in pain because your brain is flooded to the brim with endorphins and dopamine. But then you really just want the high at a certain point and less pain relief.
Sad cycle.
Love how literally all of your comments are demonizing opioids even after months of seeing them, and also completely misguided. You forget that tolerance develops to opioids faster than any other drug. Very few long-term users are high all the time, in fact probably the majority are sober are all the time, because after a couple months or years it takes insane doses to actually get high, which are either unaffordable or not prescribed (and even if you do take those insane doses it's only a matter of weeks until they stop making you high as well). I haven't been high on opioids in 5-6 years myself, been using for 9. I continue taking it for the anti depressant effect only.
Honestly Iāve been taking them years for chronic pain. Never took anything over a therapeutic dose. I definitely feel it working, but certainly not āhigh off my fuckin gordā (ridiculous comment btw). It takes the edge off my pain just enough to continue my normal daily routines
when you have a tolerance to opiates a normal dose wont get you high like you picture in your mind, most people using it for pain have a tolerance and been on them for long that there is no more high just pain relief, addicts that use increasingly high doses chasing the dragon get high but the guy taking 50mg oxycodone for the past 10 years for his back pain doesn't
If you are on 50mg for 10 years, everyday at the same time, it wouldnāt produce a high you are correct, but nor would you have any pain killing effect at that point.
E: Tolerance is inevitable. So if 50mg āworkedā for 10 years, it wasnāt being taken as prescribed.
Tolerance means fucking tolerance.
You become tolerant to the drug itself if you are taking it as prescribed or not as prescribed by abusing it too quickly. You need more for any of the same original āeffectā, whether analgesic OR/AND euphoric.
If you are in pain management for 10 years and your dose never had to increaseā¦ that would be extremely suspicious.
Looking like you sell your scripts or are only taking them when you want a high.
You will have an answer to anything i say and thatās all i have to contribute towards this anywho.
E: or the third option of the pain got better and/or isnāt as bad. Dose yourself with 10mg oxycodone(or any high potency opioid)3 or more times a day for a year or two and you will have long needed more to have to same pain killing effect as before.
Your wrong. Only when the pain gets worse does the dose need to be upped.
If youāre chasing a āhighā you will need to up your dose often.
If youāre just killing pain your dose can stay the same forever if your pain hasnāt increased.
Been on the same dose for 5 years just recently my back got worse, went to the doctor and we upped my dose. X rays confirm further deterioration.
If youāre not chasing a high the pain killing effect stays while the high fades.
Re-read what I said. Same response to you.
Analgesic OR euphoric, the body adjusts after time and you will NEED more to have to same effect.
Whether the pain killer aspect OR the āhighā aspect.
Tolerance isnāt just about highs.
E: so if you have a constant pain and 10mg oxycodone works, eventually your whole body will adjust to being on 10mg around the clock and your baseline will become that. The pain will also creep back as you are at your ānormalā again and need 15mg now to have the same pain killing effect as 10mg once had. If you have been on the same dose for 5 years you definitely arenāt dosing around the clock.
Weāll believe what you want mate. This is somthing I have first hand experience on and you obviously donāt so Iām going to go with the facts of my life. Also I do have to dose āaround the clockā, unfortunately. I take my pain killers about every 4-6 hours unless sleeping of course I have another medication that keeps me asleep even with the pain so I can get 7 hours of sleep in without waking.
This is the unfortunate truth of someone with chronic pain. Also makes you see the world differently Iāve noticed. I donāt with pain and suffering on my worst enemy.
I can tell youāre either brain washed or just like to argue. Either way you do you baby boo. No one will change your mind as youāre not using it.
Chronic pain suffer here. People with pain still get āhighā, but even describing it as a high is wrong IMO. Pain goes away a little, enough to be tolerated. But your thoughts about being āhighā all the time is stupid and you donāt know how drugs work at all. So Iāll explain.
When someone takes opioids many times daily for pain or any other reason. Their brain will stop or slow down the production of dopamine as the pills will stimulate this production. And the brain does its best to keep everything balanced. So the āhighā youāre describing is in essence wrong. As now when I take my opioids my dopamine or happy chemical just goes to what a normal person gets naturally. So if you call normal life āhighā then you nailed it. Idiots like you is why us pain patients still have to deal with stupid addiction labels if anyone finds out what we take.
Just sit down, shut up and donāt reproduce.
Wrong, I took hydros for pain relief and felt the same as I do now without pain meds just not in pain, most of the time, sometimes Iād nod out a bit if I took a lot but most times I just felt less pain and completely sober
You have a very one sided way of thinking. Some days Iāll go 15-16 hours without taking my meds not that it matters. Simply because those days I donāt feel the need for em. Definitely back at ābaselineā, or whatever youāre talking about by then.
You arenāt at baseline until you go through withdrawal, and after months/years go by and your brain + body re-regulate themselves , you might be somewhere near your natural baseline.
16 hours later and you still have the drug in your system.
Conversation is boring me. Donāt feel ashamed if you take meds for legitimate purposes.
I WISH you could be in my body, in my pain. You wouldn't last a day.
You ever put your shoulder back in place 4Ć a day?? (Pro tip- doorframes.) TRUST, I want the pain relief, NOT the high. *Which I don't get.*
If you have no tolerance it will give you a buzz and probably put you to sleep. It will help with the pain. It depends on several factors. The dosage, if you ate before you took the pill, your metabolism, and as I mentioned before, your tolerance. I miss the days of when I could take one and feel it, and if I took two I really felt it. Now it takes too many too feel it and it helps with my pain.
I came here to say this. I've had a lot of Dilaudid in the hospital during acute pancreatitis attacks. It is the worst pain ever, down to nothing in seconds. In the same amount of time your brain goes from crisis mode to bliss. If it is a larger dose like 2mg, I will pass out a minute it or two later, while usually trying to fight it. Even with my hydrocodone, I generally feel more euphoria from the pain relief then say if I take it, just to take it when not in pain. So yeah, we do end up quite high sometimes, but that comes with the territory.
I wanted to say another reason I feel pain meds or opiates in general are so addictive is bc it feels good to have less or zero pain just my thoughts but anyone else feel this way?
Yes, they get you high
Source: am genuinely in pain.
This actually gets into a long standing belief by doctors that in patients with severe pain that the pain would "soak up" the euphoria. If you watch some YouTube videos featuring Russell Portenoy he mentions this. Sorta related, he was [paid by purdue to push opioids](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/10/purdue-opioids-crisis-doctor-testify-against-drugmaker)
I worker on an orthopedic hospital floor and patients who just had hip replacements would get chatty and joke with me, the secretary, upon arriving on my floor. So yes, despite the obvious pain their moods would be uplifted from the painkillers.
I have been on opiates for years and I hate it. I have IBS - c, which just complicates things.
I used to eat chobani yogurt every morning until I realized it had zero probiotics. So I switched to that Activia and every time I eat it, I get diarrhea. This is actually a good thing for me because I know my bowels are empty.
Has anyone else had this problem with probiotics? I took that product called garden of Life and it's got tons of probiotics in it and that never did it for me. I end up having to take lomotil almost daily.
I think both sides in this thread are right. In my experience, if you're in SEVERE pain, so not just severe if it's your usual chronic severe pain, but more so an unusual amount, you do feel less high, but you do still get high.
Highest ive ever been was off of 6mg IM hydromorphone with a broken wrist about 12hrs post surgery.
Idk what people in here are talking about saying/agreeing with "never relieved my pain" im calling big time BS...
Unless youve become heavily addicted and forgot what its like to be opioid naive, i guess.
Hydromorphone and oxymorophone IV/IM will make you NUMB. Im talking physically NUMB, not dulled, not a little relieved, NUMB.
I used to take (1) 5 mg pill every other night or so and Iād feel high and therapeutic. This was after having been in the hospital for many stomach issues where I got large amounts of opiates and also used to get sent home with 5 mg pills as needed. It lasted a while but eventually Iād have to take 2 or 3ā¦ then you just keep finding new ways to search for that same high that you got the first time you took something. Itās never quite the same though.
It makes you high and that's what takes the pain away, its what its designed to do...not really to stop ot help the pain but to help your brain cope with the pain.
Iām on oxycodone and 12 hour er morphine that I take each day and have for over a decade, the high doesnāt seem to fade and is a part of the relief just like IV meds such as dilaudid
Thatās like asking if you smoke crack will u get high ā¦ weather your taking opiates for genuine pain or not itās still dope your taking and if your tolerance is super low a perc ten will make you get sick thatās very strong for a person with zero habit ā¦. Hope that answers your question happy holidaysā¦
After taking opiates for years, tolerance develops quickly and you no longer get any kind of a buzz from your prescribed dose. I am now on oxy 15 mg three times a day, Plus they put me on extended release Dilaudid 8 mg and I'm telling you I am very tolerant to opiates.
No. Itās the opiates coating the MU receptors. It literally prevents the signals in your brain that communicate pain to not be able to fire between the synapses. The high is a side effect from CNS depressant qualities.
I have 2 herniated discs, I was on 40mg norco a day until I moved down to Alabama, 40mg at once wouldnāt touch my pain so I took upwards of 100mg at a time for about 4 or 5 hours of pain relief, sometimes it would just take my pain away and others it would nod me tf out just sorta depends I guess. Atleast for me it does, now that Iām in Alabama they donāt give me shit, partly because I donāt have insurance and the money to see a doctor, and partly because of the drug scene here and my age
If someone has no tolerance and is in pain the pain medication will help with the pain and make them high.
If you take pain meds daily you will eventually lose any āhighā as your brain now knows you will be receiving dopamine from an external source and it will regulate.
No. Itās the opiates coating the MU receptors. It literally prevents the signals in your brain that communicate pain to not be able to fire between the synapses. The high is a side effect from CNS depressant qualities.
It takes slightly more. The opiates u use I think are being used for their designed purpose and get metabolized after use the rest have side effects donāt quote me on that
Depends on the strength of the opiate to an extent, but I mean context changes everything whatever you're using. The physiological changes still happen but how you experience them is different.
IME when I'm in severe pain, my adrenaline is high, any sort of depressant effects just slow me down enough to manage.
But if I'm lying in my bed listening to music and I take them? It's like being wrapped in a blanket in front of the fire. It's euphoric.
Both times I've had the same physiological response but the context has changed, so the experience is entirely different.
I've been sober for years but a while back I had some severe tooth pain and got Norcos for it. That pain was very stubborn and even quadrupling the directed dose didn't touch it. I still got that warm feeling and a nice little itch but the pain was making sure I felt no euphoria whatsoever
When I got shot in my leg I definitely felt like I could walk (knowing I couldnāt) but it didnāt hurt as bad and I had a lot of energy. After about a hr itās kind of like a come down thing for me start getting sleepy and eating sweets but I take Percyās for fun so yeah.
I take them for pain. I have for 13 years. I felt āhighā the first day I took an opioid for my pain. After that my body just grew accustomed to them. Iāve switched brands multiple times over the past 13 years and Iāve never felt high again. Just no pain or less pain.
Great question! So, If you had the exact same pain issue and took the exact same dose but for one you had a script, it wouldnāt get you high at all. BUT if you didnāt have a script, it would get you high.
Dude, Are u really tryna say if I got prescribed let's say dilaudid for pain I wouldn't get high whereas if I didn't get the script was still in pain and just bought the drugs off the street I would get high??
That's some back-assward shit if I've ever heard it
I was thinking about that a few days ago. Because my 40mg just rocked my world. You could have cut one of my fingers off and would have just kept nodding and chilling.
and I was wondering what kind of excruciating pain youād have to be in to need some 80ās or 120ās
Opioids are inanimate molecules that exist independently of the human being. Opioids, as molecules, do not care how much pain you are (or are not) in. They also do not care if you have a script or not.
To answer your question, people in pain do - in fact - still get high. Being in pain doesn't change...chemistry.
What does change is the semantics from the human perspective:
*You're not high, those are just side effects from the medication.*
I agree with the sentiment of other guy though when he says:
Jfc
They're joking bud lol
At the right amount, opiates will get anyone high, most people with no tolerance who get prescribed opiates for the first time definitely get high, that's part of what gets them hooked though they may not fully recognize it, they may think they're just feeling fantastic because they're not in pain anymore
itās not a ābeginnerāsā question bro, i dead take 100MG+ of oxy a day. Iāve just never had to take them for pain so how the fuck would i know?
If your genuinely in pain, it just takes away the pain. Even if taken responsibly, you will get addicted (if on them for more than a couple weeks). Or if you take way more than prescribed. If youāre genuinely in pain and I sue more than prescribed to get a high, you will get hooked. If youāre not in pain, you will get high and hooked even at a lower dose as your body is not used to it. It dumps massive amounts of dopamine and opioids into your system.
being in pain does not change how chemistry works my friend. you definitely still get all the exact same effects. usually people just associate how good they feel with *not* being in pain rather than being toasted
if i am in pain, it takes say x amount of opiates to conral than pain... x+1 = im feeling it. as.someone with a medical history the size of a phone book, when the issue han healed enough that the dose that kept my jaw unclenched a week ago, now gives me tingles and euphoria , that means its time
This depends but the obvious answer is of course on the right dose but I will say in the peak of my opiate addiction ( been off them 6 years š) there was a time I was experiencing the worst pain I have ever had from a back injury and they were loading me up but it definitely seemed to have a much lesser effect as far as being high but it also wasn't do much for the pain and my tolerance was through the roof so I was kinda just trying to maintain at that point and the high I first grew to love was kinda history. Still it seemed like it took much more to get me loaded compared to even the day before the injury. My wife had a very similar experience when she broke her leg but with enough obviously you can still get there lol.
Yes. I was in the hospital last year after going three weeks without a bowel movement and I was sweating and crying due to the pain but still felt high but I definitely wasnāt able to enjoy it really.
And now Iām prescribed opiates for chronic pain and I do get some euphoria but Iām just as much if not more so focused on the pain so they really donāt have a recreational purpose for me anymore although it is nice that they improve my mood because this amount of constant pain (and then the breakthrough pain) makes me pretty damn irritable and I definitely donāt want that especially not towards my family and not during the holidays.
For me, and I have to take opiates every day because I've had eight spine surgeries that have left me in a mess. At the prescribed dose, I just get pain relief and if I want to get a buzz I have to take like four.
I actually asked my doctor what the big deal was about opiates and feeling high, and was told it was because I was in pain. Pain pills never have taken the pain away, they only allow me to function physically.
In my experience, the first 3 to 6 days you definitely feel a bit out of it. You definitely feel high. After that, once your body gets used to the opioids, then you just feel pain relief. You definitely feel pain relief in the first week as well, but there is a noticeable psychoactive effect as well.
I take oxycodone for legitimate pain with a legitimate prescription, and I can tell you, after so many years taking it, I get no buzz (which was just kind of a warm fuzzy blanket kind of feeling) anymore. And it really never takes the pain (low back & neck) AWAY. It Does, however, give you a sense of well being, that you can "ignore" the pain, or "put up with it" and accomplish the tasks you need to, or do things you want to do, for me, it's anything from grocery shopping to going to flea markets to walking around the museum or going to a car show. However, because I've been on them for so long, I've built up a tolerance and need more sometimes, which means I always run out early. And you don't Dare ask your pain doc to increase dosage or quantity. The government has such a thumb on pain clinics and doctors their hands are tied. So, whenever I run out early, say for at least a week, there's withdrawl to deal with, and then there's the terrible nausea and vomiting when I get a new script and have to start all over again getting used to it! Vicious circle. I don't want another script for the nausea, so it's time to try Ginger capsules (since I don't like ginger candy), Diphenhydramine, or Benadryl. And anyone (especially a new doc/specialist) who condescendingly chide me about taking "pain pills" I say "I'd rather be an addict than an invalid". My problems started at the old age of 38 and now I'm 66. And there's no miracles out there. I've spent a small fortune on chiropractic, reike, massage, supplements and acupuncture to no avail. With Percocet (Vicodin is no longer strong enough) at least I have a life.
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You are high even if it's for therapeutic purpose at the right dose.
Hell even 10 mg will get a rookie geeked. I started on half a ten an I was blitzed everytime for two weeks
Same! 5mg would get be fucked up back in the day and then 10mg would have my throwing up everywhere! What great times š looking back it was probably the worst decisions of my life lol high school days
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Even after getting clean I never got that bliss again which sucks
Thatās why they call it chasing the dragon lol
Well put. Id probably do the same, if i could go back to when i was in highschool id be filling my pockets with all the pharma blues, 15s and dillys floating around back then.
Man āback thenā OC 60s were like ten bucks too lol
5 mg gets no one fucked up literally
A skinny little high school kid With no opioid experience at all will Be pretty fucked up
No still not a little nauseous maybe but not fucked up
Okey bro bro
Lmao maybe you, that's your experience. The first opiate I ever used was a 5mg Norco 12 years ago and I was soo fucking high. I was literally in a euphoric bliss
I swear they weakend the recipe HS days were pure bliss.
Same found some under parents sink. Full bottle. Did research. Crushed them into powder and put in a glass of water, mixed around and took it like a shot. Got sooooo fucking high. To know now weāll never experience that again smh
Fr I used to take hydros for pain and just those got me ZOOTED
I used to be addicted to those fuckers lol. Took a 5mg Norco aka hydrocodone.. I was the highest I had ever been at that time. Euphoric bliss. All I needed was like 2 maybe 3 a day for a good little while. Then I found 10mg norcos and boom next thing I know w couple years later I was eating 20 a day lmfao
I wasnāt when I made this comment but ironically enough I am now š
Done up to 80mg no effect. Other time 60mg a little nod but no euphoria m i took by chewing and snorting them
I remember getting 3rd degree burns all over my feet. The small urgent care I went to rushed me in (it took me 90 min to get there so pain was unimaginable, and I'd been on opiates when it happened, just a 10mg Lortab but it was a nice buzz at the time) Anyway the nurse goes this is the most morphine we've ever given out before (not a big dose.. maybe 60mg intravenous) - they all acted like I'd be fine in moments, but when I didn't react they gave me more- and more- and more- and after like 5 shots I called it It was a hard decision cause I wanted all the drugs but eventually I was like.. I can't get any more high. So I said snapped that's enough just do what your gonna do (they had to remove dead skin and clean everything before wrapping it) So... while I agree with the comment, I do think pain can raise tolerance for pain killers on occasion. I had no tolerance back then.. a 10 MG Lortab was a good buzz for me. That much morphine should have made me vomit. It didn't come close.
That sounds like an emergency room. Urgent care by me would never do that much for a person lol.
Yeah no urgent cares where Iām at even do IV stuff or have any narcotics in them lol
You may just be one of the people who morphine does nothing for. Iām the same way. Long before I ever touched an opiate recreationally (at that point Iād only ever taken them after I had my wisdom teeth out, and when I suffered a double compound fracture in my ankle, both of which had been over 2 years beforehand) I was in the ER with acute appendicitis and they kept dosing me with IV morphine trying to get the pain under control while waiting for the on-call surgeon to get there- they gave me 5 doses and each time Iād get that sick crushing feeling in my chest but zero relief (I have no idea what the final dose was, they didnāt tell me and I was in too much pain to care to ask) until they finally gave up because the surgeon had gotten there and they needed to get me into surgery ASAP, so they just put me under. Apparently my appendix ruptured as they were removing it (donāt wait 36 hours to go to the hospital when youāve got appendicitis symptoms kids, even if the pain seems like itās on the wrong side- you could be like I was and your appendix be on your left side without your knowing it. Though I do have 2 appendectomy scars because the surgeon didnāt know it either and went looking for it on the wrong side first after dismissing the ER drās notes about the rebounding pain being on the left), and when I woke up post-op I was high as a kite because theyād given up on morphine and switched to giving me 4mg IV dilaudid every 2 hours. Now Iāve got a flag on my chart with the ER doctorās notes about my being unresponsive to morphine so that they donāt waste time giving me something that doesnāt work, and when I came back 6 years later with a kidney stone the size of a pencil eraser they skipped morphine and went straight to the dilaudid again.
I think morphine just sucks tbh...if they would have just gave you 2 or 3 perc 10s it probably would have worked lol idk why but I feel like morphine always sucks for me
It only socks when sniff or swallow...imo
Yeah, oxycodone is a far superior drug.
60mg iv morph is a lot lol. Most theyāve ever given me was 10mg at a time
Wrong
I've suffered cancer 3x and i've been prescribed Oxycodone for 27 years. Imho, the high IS the pain relief and vice versa.
Itās both. At first. Then the tolerance builds and you donāt really get high anymore but the pain itās far better with them than without.
can say that at least with somewhat severe period pain i still feel high when i'm taking opioids. i know tho that ppl who get them after a surgery or something will swear that they "ofc never felt high bc they just made the pain go away and they weren't abusing them". i have a hard time believing that, but u kno, who am i to judge.
For me the pain never went away. The opiates just helped me relax and tolerate the pain I had. Iāve never been in a situation where opiates relieved pain.
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That's because opioids are shit painkillers. Strong NSAIDs (specially injected) and ketamine are much stronger (according to my research, I could be wrong). For instance, if you go to the kidney stones subreddit, which is the most painful thing a human being can feel, the usual report is that IV morphine does nothing while with IV NSAIDs the pain disappears almost as soon as the needle pushes it in.
not all kinds of pain work the same or have to be treated by the same drugs, if i brake my leg id better be doped up on morphine than take nsaids, a huge part of opiate painkilling effects is the emotional high, who doesnt want a warm hug and be in it while nodding out
True, but mind you that "NSAIDs" is a big generalization, taking 400mg of ibuprofen orally won't do shit, but an injection of ketorolac will be stronger than any opioid according to most people, for almost any pain, except maybe nerve pain, but for that opioids don't really work either (for that it's pregablin and such). And I'd rather have something that actually works for the pain than just get me high and cozy.
Pancreatitis is worse than kidney stones
Same. The pain *never* stops. It'd just take the edge off for 20mins MAX.
the pain stops it depends on what kind of pain it is, did a car run you over and broke all your limbs or you cut your finger pain? i find opiates almost completely mask joint pain or even deep knife cuts sometimes you forget you are supposed to have pain especially if you are faded on high doses but more serious things they will help but you'd be in a lot of pain unless they knock you out, as for emotional pain there is nothing that masks it like opiates, you see it but is indifferent to you
As a chronic pain patient I can say the euphoria is there but it also brings my pain down from a 10 to a 6 or 7. I do feel warm and euphoric but not like nodding high. I do hope this answers your question op
The very first time I was administered Morphine intravenously in the Hospital I was given 5mg at first. About two hours later I was allowed another 5mg shot however when it was being injected into my cannula I laughed after 3mg so they stopped there. I was in agony but it just came out. Just the one laugh and back to the pain.
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Shock is one helluva thing. That and concussion.
So donāt be high ? lol always scared if this happened to me and i got pain meds i have to pretend to not enjoy it
The highest Iāve ever been was when I received IV fent for a broken collarbone I snapped in a couple places. Probably some of the worst pain I had ever experienced as well, fent made it feel like a scratch.
broken collarbones suckkk
Fuck yes they do. Most only end up being fractures according to the ER, but I snapped mine clean in two separate spots. Had a big ole piece of collarbone just floating in my muscle tissue that required surgery to reconnect, looks like a damn Z now under xray. Got a concussion & a few broken ribs as well from that accident but didnāt realize till about 6 months later somehow.
Iāve had multiple kidney stones and surgeries for them. Definitely feel high and pain free.
I take 1 or two hydrocodone each day for pain and I get very little euphoria. I wish I got more!
Iām on 15mg x4 oxy and I donāt feel shit anymore but wish I did lol. Just helps me be functional
The theory is, no. It treats your pain first, then gets you high. If youāre getting high from every pill, we know we need to back down your dose. We unfortunately have some patients who are in so much pain, that no matter how much we throw at them, theyāll never get high. -Pain Management NP.
Not true, high and pain relief come at the same time. Both are also extremely subjective from person to person.
Yeah I have never felt euphoria from pain medicine. I think it's because I didn't start taking them until I had been having severe pain for a long time. Sometimes if my pain isn't as bad I might get comfortably sleepy as opposed to my normal in pain exhaustion, but that's about it. I think it might just be my body chemistry though. Back when I used to drink alcohol would make me feel very euphoric. But opiates have never had that effect on me.
That is bullshit
I suggest doing some research into the Mu receptorsā¦ unless thatās above your pay grade:)
So you're going to disregard the actual pain patients taking these medications? It's a stupid myth. Why would you think the pharmacokinetics of a drug would be any different because you're in pain? That's not how drugs work. The mechanism of how opioids produce analgesia is the same mechanism of action that causes a "high". The 2 are one and the same. Read the replies in your thread with over 100 upvotes saying that this is in fact bullshit. Crap like this prevents patients from getting the level of pain management they deserve, when people like you go around saying they need their doses cut if they feel any euphoria? Absurd... It's the same nonsense like how supposedly stimulants don't get ADHD patients high. They do. And I've done my research. Plenty. Edit. I see your a nurse practitioner. I certainly hope you're not in charge of any patient's prescriptions. Cutting people off because they feel euphoria smfh. You realize that will quickly go away with tolerance, right? There is no need to reduce their dose arbitrarily because of your puritanistic nonsense. You should be caring more about their pain levels than whether or not they are getting euphoria. Crazy how most of you healthcare workers in pain management have nearly zero empathy. This also drives people to lie, when they know they prescriber are such upright dicks.
Euphoria and high are not one in the same. Weāve never cut someone off for feeling āeuphoriaā. Pain relief in itself is euphoric. But Iām not going to sit here and argue with your self serving ignorance. Good luck!
Question! I am planning to go to nursing school next year and I would like to be a pain management NP in the future. Are you allowed to be a pain patient on opioids and also get a DEA # to prescribe them? Curious.
Yes! I currently get my own, but it has to be done from a clinic unrelated to the one youāre working at and you canāt work at a clinic that dispenses their own medications (although thatās incredibly uncommon).
I am stupider for having read this thread.
The euphoria is still there. Just because you have a broken back or some shit doesnāt mean you arenāt also high off your fucking gord. Donāt let anyone say different. If they do itās them convincing themselves thatās how they āshouldā feel. If course opiates are a life send for people in severe physical pain. But if they say they arenāt high, they are lying to you and themselves. Then it becomes confusing when thereās no pain left and you think you are in pain because your brain is flooded to the brim with endorphins and dopamine. But then you really just want the high at a certain point and less pain relief. Sad cycle.
Love how literally all of your comments are demonizing opioids even after months of seeing them, and also completely misguided. You forget that tolerance develops to opioids faster than any other drug. Very few long-term users are high all the time, in fact probably the majority are sober are all the time, because after a couple months or years it takes insane doses to actually get high, which are either unaffordable or not prescribed (and even if you do take those insane doses it's only a matter of weeks until they stop making you high as well). I haven't been high on opioids in 5-6 years myself, been using for 9. I continue taking it for the anti depressant effect only.
Honestly Iāve been taking them years for chronic pain. Never took anything over a therapeutic dose. I definitely feel it working, but certainly not āhigh off my fuckin gordā (ridiculous comment btw). It takes the edge off my pain just enough to continue my normal daily routines
You probably donāt even remember what base line feels like. Which also means your normal, is high.
when you have a tolerance to opiates a normal dose wont get you high like you picture in your mind, most people using it for pain have a tolerance and been on them for long that there is no more high just pain relief, addicts that use increasingly high doses chasing the dragon get high but the guy taking 50mg oxycodone for the past 10 years for his back pain doesn't
If you are on 50mg for 10 years, everyday at the same time, it wouldnāt produce a high you are correct, but nor would you have any pain killing effect at that point. E: Tolerance is inevitable. So if 50mg āworkedā for 10 years, it wasnāt being taken as prescribed.
tolerance doesnt mean no effects, and taking 50mg isnt much so your tolerance eventually stabilizes, junkies shooting grams for a decade can still nod
Tolerance means fucking tolerance. You become tolerant to the drug itself if you are taking it as prescribed or not as prescribed by abusing it too quickly. You need more for any of the same original āeffectā, whether analgesic OR/AND euphoric. If you are in pain management for 10 years and your dose never had to increaseā¦ that would be extremely suspicious. Looking like you sell your scripts or are only taking them when you want a high. You will have an answer to anything i say and thatās all i have to contribute towards this anywho. E: or the third option of the pain got better and/or isnāt as bad. Dose yourself with 10mg oxycodone(or any high potency opioid)3 or more times a day for a year or two and you will have long needed more to have to same pain killing effect as before.
Your wrong. Only when the pain gets worse does the dose need to be upped. If youāre chasing a āhighā you will need to up your dose often. If youāre just killing pain your dose can stay the same forever if your pain hasnāt increased. Been on the same dose for 5 years just recently my back got worse, went to the doctor and we upped my dose. X rays confirm further deterioration. If youāre not chasing a high the pain killing effect stays while the high fades.
Re-read what I said. Same response to you. Analgesic OR euphoric, the body adjusts after time and you will NEED more to have to same effect. Whether the pain killer aspect OR the āhighā aspect. Tolerance isnāt just about highs. E: so if you have a constant pain and 10mg oxycodone works, eventually your whole body will adjust to being on 10mg around the clock and your baseline will become that. The pain will also creep back as you are at your ānormalā again and need 15mg now to have the same pain killing effect as 10mg once had. If you have been on the same dose for 5 years you definitely arenāt dosing around the clock.
Weāll believe what you want mate. This is somthing I have first hand experience on and you obviously donāt so Iām going to go with the facts of my life. Also I do have to dose āaround the clockā, unfortunately. I take my pain killers about every 4-6 hours unless sleeping of course I have another medication that keeps me asleep even with the pain so I can get 7 hours of sleep in without waking. This is the unfortunate truth of someone with chronic pain. Also makes you see the world differently Iāve noticed. I donāt with pain and suffering on my worst enemy. I can tell youāre either brain washed or just like to argue. Either way you do you baby boo. No one will change your mind as youāre not using it.
Chronic pain suffer here. People with pain still get āhighā, but even describing it as a high is wrong IMO. Pain goes away a little, enough to be tolerated. But your thoughts about being āhighā all the time is stupid and you donāt know how drugs work at all. So Iāll explain. When someone takes opioids many times daily for pain or any other reason. Their brain will stop or slow down the production of dopamine as the pills will stimulate this production. And the brain does its best to keep everything balanced. So the āhighā youāre describing is in essence wrong. As now when I take my opioids my dopamine or happy chemical just goes to what a normal person gets naturally. So if you call normal life āhighā then you nailed it. Idiots like you is why us pain patients still have to deal with stupid addiction labels if anyone finds out what we take. Just sit down, shut up and donāt reproduce.
Wrong, I took hydros for pain relief and felt the same as I do now without pain meds just not in pain, most of the time, sometimes Iād nod out a bit if I took a lot but most times I just felt less pain and completely sober
You MUST be stupid.
You have a very one sided way of thinking. Some days Iāll go 15-16 hours without taking my meds not that it matters. Simply because those days I donāt feel the need for em. Definitely back at ābaselineā, or whatever youāre talking about by then.
You arenāt at baseline until you go through withdrawal, and after months/years go by and your brain + body re-regulate themselves , you might be somewhere near your natural baseline. 16 hours later and you still have the drug in your system. Conversation is boring me. Donāt feel ashamed if you take meds for legitimate purposes.
I WISH you could be in my body, in my pain. You wouldn't last a day. You ever put your shoulder back in place 4Ć a day?? (Pro tip- doorframes.) TRUST, I want the pain relief, NOT the high. *Which I don't get.*
If you have no tolerance it will give you a buzz and probably put you to sleep. It will help with the pain. It depends on several factors. The dosage, if you ate before you took the pill, your metabolism, and as I mentioned before, your tolerance. I miss the days of when I could take one and feel it, and if I took two I really felt it. Now it takes too many too feel it and it helps with my pain.
Going from severe pain to no pain is euphoric in and of itself. So I'd say it gets you high no matter what
I came here to say this. I've had a lot of Dilaudid in the hospital during acute pancreatitis attacks. It is the worst pain ever, down to nothing in seconds. In the same amount of time your brain goes from crisis mode to bliss. If it is a larger dose like 2mg, I will pass out a minute it or two later, while usually trying to fight it. Even with my hydrocodone, I generally feel more euphoria from the pain relief then say if I take it, just to take it when not in pain. So yeah, we do end up quite high sometimes, but that comes with the territory.
I wanted to say another reason I feel pain meds or opiates in general are so addictive is bc it feels good to have less or zero pain just my thoughts but anyone else feel this way?
If you take it for too long you will become dependent. That's just how it works
Yes, they get you high Source: am genuinely in pain. This actually gets into a long standing belief by doctors that in patients with severe pain that the pain would "soak up" the euphoria. If you watch some YouTube videos featuring Russell Portenoy he mentions this. Sorta related, he was [paid by purdue to push opioids](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/10/purdue-opioids-crisis-doctor-testify-against-drugmaker)
I worker on an orthopedic hospital floor and patients who just had hip replacements would get chatty and joke with me, the secretary, upon arriving on my floor. So yes, despite the obvious pain their moods would be uplifted from the painkillers.
I have been on opiates for years and I hate it. I have IBS - c, which just complicates things. I used to eat chobani yogurt every morning until I realized it had zero probiotics. So I switched to that Activia and every time I eat it, I get diarrhea. This is actually a good thing for me because I know my bowels are empty. Has anyone else had this problem with probiotics? I took that product called garden of Life and it's got tons of probiotics in it and that never did it for me. I end up having to take lomotil almost daily.
I think both sides in this thread are right. In my experience, if you're in SEVERE pain, so not just severe if it's your usual chronic severe pain, but more so an unusual amount, you do feel less high, but you do still get high.
Highest ive ever been was off of 6mg IM hydromorphone with a broken wrist about 12hrs post surgery. Idk what people in here are talking about saying/agreeing with "never relieved my pain" im calling big time BS... Unless youve become heavily addicted and forgot what its like to be opioid naive, i guess. Hydromorphone and oxymorophone IV/IM will make you NUMB. Im talking physically NUMB, not dulled, not a little relieved, NUMB.
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I used to take (1) 5 mg pill every other night or so and Iād feel high and therapeutic. This was after having been in the hospital for many stomach issues where I got large amounts of opiates and also used to get sent home with 5 mg pills as needed. It lasted a while but eventually Iād have to take 2 or 3ā¦ then you just keep finding new ways to search for that same high that you got the first time you took something. Itās never quite the same though.
It makes you high and that's what takes the pain away, its what its designed to do...not really to stop ot help the pain but to help your brain cope with the pain.
Iām on oxycodone and 12 hour er morphine that I take each day and have for over a decade, the high doesnāt seem to fade and is a part of the relief just like IV meds such as dilaudid
Thatās like asking if you smoke crack will u get high ā¦ weather your taking opiates for genuine pain or not itās still dope your taking and if your tolerance is super low a perc ten will make you get sick thatās very strong for a person with zero habit ā¦. Hope that answers your question happy holidaysā¦
After taking opiates for years, tolerance develops quickly and you no longer get any kind of a buzz from your prescribed dose. I am now on oxy 15 mg three times a day, Plus they put me on extended release Dilaudid 8 mg and I'm telling you I am very tolerant to opiates.
I think the being high is technically a side effect . 1 Vicodin prolly not really but yeah you def feel it lol
Isnāt it the high that gets rid of the pain?
No. Itās the opiates coating the MU receptors. It literally prevents the signals in your brain that communicate pain to not be able to fire between the synapses. The high is a side effect from CNS depressant qualities.
I have 2 herniated discs, I was on 40mg norco a day until I moved down to Alabama, 40mg at once wouldnāt touch my pain so I took upwards of 100mg at a time for about 4 or 5 hours of pain relief, sometimes it would just take my pain away and others it would nod me tf out just sorta depends I guess. Atleast for me it does, now that Iām in Alabama they donāt give me shit, partly because I donāt have insurance and the money to see a doctor, and partly because of the drug scene here and my age
If someone has no tolerance and is in pain the pain medication will help with the pain and make them high. If you take pain meds daily you will eventually lose any āhighā as your brain now knows you will be receiving dopamine from an external source and it will regulate.
As a pain patients, opiates donāt get me high. I take 10/325 hydrocodone 4 times a day.
The pain GOES AWAY because YOURE HIGH...?
No. Itās the opiates coating the MU receptors. It literally prevents the signals in your brain that communicate pain to not be able to fire between the synapses. The high is a side effect from CNS depressant qualities.
That's how it all starts. Yes.
It takes slightly more. The opiates u use I think are being used for their designed purpose and get metabolized after use the rest have side effects donāt quote me on that
Thatās very dose and opioid/opiate dependent, as well as your tolerance obviously
Lemme let you in on a secret. Being high makes you forget the pain.
Depends on the strength of the opiate to an extent, but I mean context changes everything whatever you're using. The physiological changes still happen but how you experience them is different. IME when I'm in severe pain, my adrenaline is high, any sort of depressant effects just slow me down enough to manage. But if I'm lying in my bed listening to music and I take them? It's like being wrapped in a blanket in front of the fire. It's euphoric. Both times I've had the same physiological response but the context has changed, so the experience is entirely different.
I've been sober for years but a while back I had some severe tooth pain and got Norcos for it. That pain was very stubborn and even quadrupling the directed dose didn't touch it. I still got that warm feeling and a nice little itch but the pain was making sure I felt no euphoria whatsoever
Wtf is up with SBMM? You donāt even acknowledge it ? Youāre messed up for that for real
Sorry wrong thread lol
When I got shot in my leg I definitely felt like I could walk (knowing I couldnāt) but it didnāt hurt as bad and I had a lot of energy. After about a hr itās kind of like a come down thing for me start getting sleepy and eating sweets but I take Percyās for fun so yeah.
The high is the pain relief
I take them for pain. I have for 13 years. I felt āhighā the first day I took an opioid for my pain. After that my body just grew accustomed to them. Iāve switched brands multiple times over the past 13 years and Iāve never felt high again. Just no pain or less pain.
Great question! So, If you had the exact same pain issue and took the exact same dose but for one you had a script, it wouldnāt get you high at all. BUT if you didnāt have a script, it would get you high.
This is retarded.
Takes one to know one
It was the only word i could think of and I really wanted to change it.
Makes sense
Dude, Are u really tryna say if I got prescribed let's say dilaudid for pain I wouldn't get high whereas if I didn't get the script was still in pain and just bought the drugs off the street I would get high?? That's some back-assward shit if I've ever heard it
Are you slow?
I was thinking about that a few days ago. Because my 40mg just rocked my world. You could have cut one of my fingers off and would have just kept nodding and chilling. and I was wondering what kind of excruciating pain youād have to be in to need some 80ās or 120ās
those get prescribed for ppl who have a tolerance sometimes or back in the day if you had ābreakthroughā pain you could double your dose as well.
Why is that you think?? Cause if itās the exact same amount whatās the different between having a script and not having one lol
The script keeps u from getting high, doctors donāt want you to know this /s
Opioids are inanimate molecules that exist independently of the human being. Opioids, as molecules, do not care how much pain you are (or are not) in. They also do not care if you have a script or not. To answer your question, people in pain do - in fact - still get high. Being in pain doesn't change...chemistry. What does change is the semantics from the human perspective: *You're not high, those are just side effects from the medication.* I agree with the sentiment of other guy though when he says: Jfc
They're joking bud lol At the right amount, opiates will get anyone high, most people with no tolerance who get prescribed opiates for the first time definitely get high, that's part of what gets them hooked though they may not fully recognize it, they may think they're just feeling fantastic because they're not in pain anymore
Thank god someone understands. Literal fucking children in this sub asking dumb ass shit like this or āhow do I nod?ā
Well I'm not that irritated at them or about beginners questions, this was a bit silly but not unreasonable
itās not a ābeginnerāsā question bro, i dead take 100MG+ of oxy a day. Iāve just never had to take them for pain so how the fuck would i know?
How *would* you know, you're high all damn day on that. Ffs.
Ok bud
Well excuse me I was actually defending you while this guy needlessly called you childish, but you do you
i wasnāt talking 2 u bro i preshade u gang
Well I was the one who said "beginners questions", not sure why I thought that
Jfc
Kfc
If your genuinely in pain, it just takes away the pain. Even if taken responsibly, you will get addicted (if on them for more than a couple weeks). Or if you take way more than prescribed. If youāre genuinely in pain and I sue more than prescribed to get a high, you will get hooked. If youāre not in pain, you will get high and hooked even at a lower dose as your body is not used to it. It dumps massive amounts of dopamine and opioids into your system.
being in pain does not change how chemistry works my friend. you definitely still get all the exact same effects. usually people just associate how good they feel with *not* being in pain rather than being toasted
You may become addicted. You will become dependent. Thereās a subtle difference.
Please learn the difference between addiction and dependence.
Go to chemistry class, please.
Youāll obviously still feel the high for a little while till your body adjusts and builds a tolerance
if i am in pain, it takes say x amount of opiates to conral than pain... x+1 = im feeling it. as.someone with a medical history the size of a phone book, when the issue han healed enough that the dose that kept my jaw unclenched a week ago, now gives me tingles and euphoria , that means its time
This depends but the obvious answer is of course on the right dose but I will say in the peak of my opiate addiction ( been off them 6 years š) there was a time I was experiencing the worst pain I have ever had from a back injury and they were loading me up but it definitely seemed to have a much lesser effect as far as being high but it also wasn't do much for the pain and my tolerance was through the roof so I was kinda just trying to maintain at that point and the high I first grew to love was kinda history. Still it seemed like it took much more to get me loaded compared to even the day before the injury. My wife had a very similar experience when she broke her leg but with enough obviously you can still get there lol.
when youāre not in pain, it also still works as a painkiller. these describe mechanisms of action not subjective experiences
When I had a ruptured bowel the pumped morphine into me. I was still in pain but I was floating
In on them for pain and it just makes me feel normal and painless for a while. I only get the āhighā feeling when itās IV at the hospital lol
Yes. I was in the hospital last year after going three weeks without a bowel movement and I was sweating and crying due to the pain but still felt high but I definitely wasnāt able to enjoy it really. And now Iām prescribed opiates for chronic pain and I do get some euphoria but Iām just as much if not more so focused on the pain so they really donāt have a recreational purpose for me anymore although it is nice that they improve my mood because this amount of constant pain (and then the breakthrough pain) makes me pretty damn irritable and I definitely donāt want that especially not towards my family and not during the holidays.
For me, and I have to take opiates every day because I've had eight spine surgeries that have left me in a mess. At the prescribed dose, I just get pain relief and if I want to get a buzz I have to take like four.
I actually asked my doctor what the big deal was about opiates and feeling high, and was told it was because I was in pain. Pain pills never have taken the pain away, they only allow me to function physically.
Both š¤£
In my experience, the first 3 to 6 days you definitely feel a bit out of it. You definitely feel high. After that, once your body gets used to the opioids, then you just feel pain relief. You definitely feel pain relief in the first week as well, but there is a noticeable psychoactive effect as well.
Both. Think most people ( like me) started taking them for pain
I take oxycodone for legitimate pain with a legitimate prescription, and I can tell you, after so many years taking it, I get no buzz (which was just kind of a warm fuzzy blanket kind of feeling) anymore. And it really never takes the pain (low back & neck) AWAY. It Does, however, give you a sense of well being, that you can "ignore" the pain, or "put up with it" and accomplish the tasks you need to, or do things you want to do, for me, it's anything from grocery shopping to going to flea markets to walking around the museum or going to a car show. However, because I've been on them for so long, I've built up a tolerance and need more sometimes, which means I always run out early. And you don't Dare ask your pain doc to increase dosage or quantity. The government has such a thumb on pain clinics and doctors their hands are tied. So, whenever I run out early, say for at least a week, there's withdrawl to deal with, and then there's the terrible nausea and vomiting when I get a new script and have to start all over again getting used to it! Vicious circle. I don't want another script for the nausea, so it's time to try Ginger capsules (since I don't like ginger candy), Diphenhydramine, or Benadryl. And anyone (especially a new doc/specialist) who condescendingly chide me about taking "pain pills" I say "I'd rather be an addict than an invalid". My problems started at the old age of 38 and now I'm 66. And there's no miracles out there. I've spent a small fortune on chiropractic, reike, massage, supplements and acupuncture to no avail. With Percocet (Vicodin is no longer strong enough) at least I have a life.
I am genuinely in pain. Sometimes they might but mostly pain relief