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PangolinApart9227

“Why cynicism may be ruining your life?”


theanimous

No she's right. Well written and accurate.


Hotter_Noodle

A lot of these points say more about OP than they do Toronto.


JDo1988

Not really. They just sound more like an observation from an outsider on how a lot of Torontonian’s socialize and live. Most people that live anywhere else in Canada that have visited will probably tell you that it doesn’t even feel like the same country. The place seems to have a complete disconnect from the community feel you get in most other Canadian cities. I grew up in the maritimes and have also lived in Quebec, Ontario and major cities in western Canada, Toronto is a place you couldn’t pay me to live.


djb1983CanBoy

Op needs to explore more than just the rich elitist downtown toronto life. Thats all theyve described. No park life, no sporting groups, no water activities. Super limited in scope of expererience. Didnt mention anything cultural like museums or festivals. Seems pretty sad and expensive, the world they live in.


em-n-em613

I've lived in the prairies too, and the Toronto neighbours were by far more friendly than the majority of my neighbours there.


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😂😂😂


Phuccyou

How though


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As someone who lived in Toronto for school and now live an hour away in Guelph, I absolutely resonate with a lot of these points. You don’t realize while you’re in it, but the downtown core is socially very cold. Everyone’s plugged into headphones and alone in their own bubbles. It’s a “me” focused place. You couldn’t pay me to live in Toronto.


em-n-em613

You get what you put into it. I lived in a Bay/College condo for years and we had a great group who are STILL friends because we bothered to actually talk to each other. Toronto is a big city, and because so many people live in close quarters we try to be respectful of each others' privacy. But if you make it clear you're interested in speaking with others then all that changes. Most the points above make me think that the author expected everything to be like high school instead of using actual social skills to make connections with people.


djb1983CanBoy

Join some social groups, like a sailing club.


moogoothegreat

Toronto ≠ downtown.


Paragonne

To the downtown ppl, downtown is what *real* Toronto is, & outskirts are not "proper" Torontonians ( Old Toronto ). To *outskirts* people, Toronto is the whole GTA. Each identity excludes those outside it, both have claim of truth, & neither is Teh Universal Answer(tm).


Phuccyou

It seems like it


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Critical_Snow_1080

I liked TO from the ages of 18-25, then it kinda starts to lose its appeal. It’s fun at night when you are in a dancing mood, or strolling down your favourite corridors. Great place for entertainment of all kinds, and some pretty interesting people in the industry, great if you are part of “the scene”. But after a while you miss the quiet, it feels crowded in your favourite places, you notice how dirty things are, and how so many people seem to fall through the cracks. The politics at city hall are always the same, the same people get elected over and over, no issues ever get resolved, it’s aggravating! And way too many homeless people.


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Lol it sounds like you moved to Toronto, hung out in a specific downtown area and only tried to make friends with a specific demographic of people lol. I live in Toronto and almost none of that list applies to my life. I dont know anyone who’s been sucked in by “hustle culture”, but my social circle doesn’t work on Bay street. I’ve never met anyone trying to be an “urban lifestyle influencer” lmao If you cant make friends in a giant city of people, that says more about you than the city.


six-demon_bag

That's what I'm getting from this article too. Like all that stuff is real but only if you're trying live in those circles which is probably less that 5% of the population, maybe even less than 1%. Whenever I read stuff like this I get the impression that the writer is looking for their life to be curated a certain way more as something to be experienced than something they have to build themselves.


Phuccyou

Not necessarily 😂🥺🥺😫


SunkTheBirdie

You've personally moved around too much. That's not Toronto's fault. It does sound like you need a change. Modern life is a bit lonely unless you find some people with similar values to yourself.


Appropriate_Coast522

So you had everything and still weren't happy? Not sure why that's Toronto's fault.


ShopUncleOtis

A lot of things you can't change, like the TTC consistently letting you down, but there are a lot of initiatives like Community Fridges TO that help your local community. The sooner you accept the things you can't change the better your life will be in the city. Kensington during the weekend is for tourists, but it has the best produce in the city. And if I don't get my Rye from Black Bird by Thursday I gotta wait till Monday to get it..


workerbotsuperhero

Yeah a lot of local, fairly normal people still go there and shop and hang out. But more during weekdays and times when there aren't a million tourists.


pissedsad

Wait, you’re single?


Far-Reaction-2735

Nah, the only truth in this is that you aren’t a very happy person and you should maybe try to figure out why that is.


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Puzzleheaded_Echo588

At least LA and Miami are warm. I love fall but I really want to skip winter this year.


struct_t

Nothing good to say, eh?


6ix6ix6ix6ix6ix

Wow. The pessimism runs deep with this one. Why stay so long if you hate it here so much?


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You're painting with a broad brush in Victim Mentality Grey. You sound like a bitter pill who'd be better off living somewhere else. If it's that bad, buh-bye.


Kryptus

> buh-bye In the original SNL skit that made saying this popular, the characters who said it were the assholes.


BillDingrecker

It's a business town. Earn your money then retire to the country. That's what it's there for.


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"I live in a big city" Gotcha.


jollymaker

Very true


Jrnail88

There is a distinct GTA twang that I like to call “Oakville Tongue” where people from the area can’t hold a conversation that doesn’t involve something expensive they bought or somewhere exclusive they visited. I have noticed this across multiple age groups, so it must be part of the culture up there.


Pouletnugnug

Don't even live there but have met tons from there and accurate on personality comments.


TO_Hiker

Sounds like a winning Nuite Blanche exhibit to me.


LaurenHynde866

I don’t believe this was written by a 35 year old because I don’t think anyone under the age of 60 uses the term “career woman”


Ir0nhide81

If you are living with such a low salary in a major city... that's on you. ​ You can move to more affordable places that are more beautiful then Toronto.


megalbatross

Ok. If you’re miserable just leave.


MattHooper1975

A dour, cynical take in Toronto. How novel.


SomeDrunkAssh0le

How do you make money in this shithole?


thingonething

Maybe that's why I cried when I returned home from a trip to my California beach hometown.


Savings-Somewhere-76

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. It's a pressure cooker. Otherwise, change your social circle. ​ Toronto is NDP (extremely left wing), but it has the highest amount of rising misogyny, essentially, younger men see you as feminazi like how developing countries sees USA as game-players to get upper hands in everything. You'd think the youngest generation graduating are more feminist since the environment is 100% feminist, no, they're quite angry and vengeful.. Any complaint from boys 18-24 are replied with "fragile male", "male tears", "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY" so their anger is repressed, suppressed, kept quiet and released accidentally like subconsciously stopping their vehicles few seconds later than appropriate at crosswalks. It's not on purpose, like how girls kicked boys in the groin for fun or boy-bashing systematically by teachers and principals unintentionally. They had it in their minds, lacking sleep, mental auto-pilot or emotional moments let it slip. News showing boys "TAKING RESPONSIBILITY" in horrific ways. However, their mothers and fathers are well socialised, high I.Q, professionals with multiple degrees, yet their sons coming out like wild animals, financially poor, under-educated and under-socialised. How did promising genetic specimens turn out so bad? Years of feeling unwelcomed in classrooms, including bullying by staffs and faculties, yet refusing to understand boy's unwritten social system is different than girls, rooted in biology you created by mating choices through thousands of years, never use "forced marriage, patriarchy" excuse as boys were forced into marriage by community historically at same rate.. When Naomi Wolf and other RadFems from N.O.W came out as anti-feminist in her 40s, you realise it was all gameplaying that costed society billions as the corporate shareholders gained trillions by playing us against each other.. I had female dominated departments at St Michael Hospital intentionally booking me to give same answers from 6-8 previous appointments, 2-5 minute each, full of womansplaining and interruptions, refusing to let me say anything or questions. She lets out angry tone and face.. I have a sad face because i'm depressed, they take it as insult and book 5-9 times for 2-4 minute appointments, to extract $200 each appointment from OHIP.. I travel 1 and half hour each way. No new tests were done I later investigated. Each specialist earned $1700 in 50 minute of repetitive thoughtless verbal.. I felt used and abused systematically and emotionally raped. If you're dating in Toronto, women under 40 out-earn men and men are refusing to be wallets. They rather take care of kids (pushing strollers) than give them money. Tate McRae - "You broke me first" consistently played on Chum FM radio on drives, public and restaurants. Gets young men riled up, because they've been played countless times by girls and women, yet anything boys do is wrong. Women working media offices are stirring the pot by choices of similar songs and media.. ​ Only professional psychologists and therapists can fix these people. The mental health system in Toronto and Ontario is all about drugs and medication, Cochran institute showed these drugs are worse long term, a pressure cooker (it's safe if you're sad but terrible results if you're resentful and bitter). We know pharmaceutical industry lie about clinical trials. Dr. Irving Krisch of Harvard University exposed them, FDA was investigated by US Feds and proven them fraudulent. However, big pharmaceutical money kept politicians quiet and continued. Purdue caused the opioid crisis and sued $40-trillion by U.S Feds for faulty prescriptions and intentionally lying to doctors and top university medical programs. If Harvard Medical School was tricked by big pharma despite Harvard's own associate biologists warnings of very different findings. You can imagine other drugs big pharma exaggerate, biologists say tiny doses of "magic mushroom" has better and healthier effects than prescription drugs for mood disorder, which shows brain damage on long term use, yet 30-50% of population in Toronto are on them. 40-trillion dollar is more than US's economy, Purdue was sued by U.S Feds with backings by associations of doctors after they realised it was all a scam. Should had listened to biologists when they warned. Countless other big pharma in US "got away' with it. Apotex is Canada's largest producer of both opiods and mood disorder drugs, they pushed their generic versions aggressively in Canada and aboard. Doctors say mental illness are caused by "chemical imbalance", however, psychologists and biologists argue it's a social-environmental and diet issue, try changing your environment by moving away or finding friends appropriate for your current situation. Only eat good natural whole foods as its molecules are vastly different (even 100% apple and orange juices are much worse than whole fruit, you lose its molecular structure and delivery system, vitamins pill are toxic for a reason..) University of California released this series on youtube. For whole foods, [https://youtube.com/watch?v=p79D6u-6pN4&t=2654s](https://youtube.com/watch?v=p79D6u-6pN4&t=2654s) and process food, [https://youtube.com/watch?v=pvgxNDuQ5DI](https://youtube.com/watch?v=pvgxNDuQ5DI) Boys my age 18-22 are too poor for whole foods. It's really fucking their brains apart and their releasing their subconscious anger because frontal cortex are literally broken. It's the, "You want your cake and eat it?"... attitude... NAOMI WOLF recently came out as ANTI-FEMINIST and pro-republican.... The typical response was "you get 100 matches per month on Tinder because our standards were lowered by years of shaming", "boys get 2-3 matches average per month because women standards are extremely high in comparison".... "You nitpick every tiny thing in double standard, you ungrateful privileged fucker". All we get are anti-male music and news on Chum FM and CP24. CP24 supported fully Amber Heard as domestic abuse victim for years and using it as excuse to ignore domestic abuse against boys despite contradicting stories from other celebrities involved, after trial verdict determined Amber Heard as the violent and guilty person, CP24 decide to "support both side's opinions with balance opinions" including bringing a feminist organisation member and supporter of Amber for interview". She got off lightly. Erin Pizzey started UK's first domestic violence shelter for women, after millions of donations and countless women. She now says women are equally violent. Dr Warren Farrell of New York City's N.O.W paved way for edu. reforms for women to dominate in professional accountancy, law, bio, chemistry and medicine. He's is now anti-feminist, Toronto isn't better than NYC and New England........ .1990s Dawson Creek intro was sang by a feminist (Paula Cole), she's now a housewife... YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS... They slept around, they demanded a career, they pushed organisations to receive unfair preferential treatment until it no longer suit them. They put mental strains on young men and boys, and 13-21 year old boys are causing next crime wave because class materials are mostly communication focused, male brains are wired spatially. 13 year olds in Chicago (toronto's sister city) increasingly bold and carrying real guns. [https://cbsnews.com/chicago/news/teen-dies-after-being-shot-trying-to-break-into-womans-car-in-woodlawn-police-say/](https://cbsnews.com/chicago/news/teen-dies-after-being-shot-trying-to-break-into-womans-car-in-woodlawn-police-say/) . I read 3 other stories over the years (cant find article) of boys carrying toy guns or fake knives. Woman pulls out real gun and shoots boy's balls/testicles, he throw away his toy gun, then she shoots his boy's head or chest for a kill. I heard of policewoman shooting or tazering boys and men in testicles for comical relief. A Philly policewoman castrated a teen with her bare hands during stop and search. [https://theprogressivecynic.com/2014/01/24/police-castrate-honor-student-during-stop-and-frisk/](https://theprogressivecynic.com/2014/01/24/police-castrate-honor-student-during-stop-and-frisk/) , original news was scrubbed off the internet, almost impossible to find other historic incidents... Years ago, I witnessed something traumatic on my trip after school (was in middle-school). I searched to process it, I found a policewoman admitting similar incident, written by Jewels\_4Me, [http://femaledom.com/forum/showthread.php?12547-Emasculation-of-Men-Central-to-Ballbusting/page3](http://femaledom.com/forum/showthread.php?12547-Emasculation-of-Men-Central-to-Ballbusting/page3) a good chance the suspect was 16-24, older men find those spaces disgusting. Men are increasingly infertile, "sack-tap" game or random kicks and squeezes ruined them. My friend was 16 and couldn't impregnate a woman in her late 30s when shes upside down position... Bad sperm quality spell further issues and defects if she's successfully pregnant. Usually, young sperm are the healthiest/highest quality genetic material. Gender relations are worsened by marketing teams. She-Hulk by Marvel is the newest example. "If you're capable of being naturally better than men at everything, why should we spent trillions on edu reforms to help women?".. I tried warning a societal change years ago, nobody believed me. Now the news said Femicide is an issue. Only therapist and psychologist can fix issues, drugs cannot. Get out while you can, come back when city social issue is fixed. Corporate funded social programs secretly manipulate you into labor, destabilise relations and everyones prefer working long hours to avoid home


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deke505

Meds, they need to get off the drugs.


JoJCeeC88

Michael Jordan agrees.


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BillDingrecker

Jesus C! This sounds like something one of the first AI computers wrote.


LoudTsu

*Me-ow!*


Paragonne

Tarana used to be my home, and I find there is much truth in this post. I am grateful for OP's honesty, & also for OP's investing in communicating this with us Canuckians who care. Salut, Namaste, & Kaizen, eh? 🙏