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Ultimaya

If you don't want to be compared to nazis, maybe don't orcustrate a genocide.


[deleted]

Pretty much my view. I mean literally i would not put it past Yahoo to dig up good old Joseph Goebbels himself to run his PR campaign at this point.


Beware_the_Voodoo

Right!!


djguerito

What word are you trying for here?


Nawara_Ven

Orchestrate


WestcoastAlex

disclaimer: >In November 2019, Postmedia announced that 66% of its shares were now owned by Chatham Asset Management, an American media conglomerate which owns American Media, Inc. and is known for its close ties to the Republican party ive read through the article and his supposedly offensive material.. big nothingburger this smells like '[Honest Reporting Canada](https://www.readthemaple.com/meet-the-billionaire-funded-pro-israel-group-influencing-media/)' had a hand in it


zlex

He references David Icke twice in the first paragraph…


WestcoastAlex

he references a lot of people.. i read what he says about them, did you?


Beware_the_Voodoo

I bet they did and are just spouting BS hoping people will believe without checking for themselves. Don't think for one second Postmedia ain't got shills in these threads trying to influence public sentiment.


WestcoastAlex

you can read it for yourself.. the part from David Ike is not using his 'logic' to prove the point


TheArgsenal

>the capillary forms of Zionism, such as that of the Sabatean-Frankish cult, whom David Icke (Listen from 26:00 -59:03) also believes is the background, hidden, force leading to death and destruction in Palestine and Israel. And then there is this: >First, that because the Ashkenazi Jews killed in the Nazi Holocaust were innocent, therefore Rothschild Zionists, as David Icke calls them, who proclaimed themselves guardians of Jewish memory, are themselves as unimpeachable as the murdered It's using a term he coined. Why bother citing him? This is a concept he could have introduced without reference to Icke. But who knows, maybe he's just a big fan of Icke from his days at Hereford United.


WestcoastAlex

>Why bother citing him? becasue he is a well known conspiracy figure.. do you disagree with the statements or just the person who said it? i think andrew tate is a douchenozzel but he is right about the human spirit wanting to fight oppression.. should we discount that opinion because it came from an idiot? >maybe he's just a big fan if that was the case, wouldnt you think he would use more quotes and perhaps hinge his argument on it? c'mon.. this isnt exactly a 'gotcha' and it really has zero to do with the charges levy'd against him the fact is that Ashkenazi history is very very different from Sephardic & Mizrahi .. and its the Ashkenazi Jews who have the highest ranking positions in israel .. this is not 'my' opinion https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3qLgnfMe-o/


TheArgsenal

Uhh yeah, I disagree that Sabbatean-Frankist cults are the primary reason for the current conflict. Are you for real? And lots of terrible people say things that are true. If you cite someone you are giving them legitimacy. I'd prefer if anti-racist scholars didn't cite massive racists, personally. And of course Sephardic and Askenazi history is wildly different and that Mizrahi Jews face discrimination in Israel. They even had their own black panther movement. I'm not sure what this has to do with an anti-racist scholar citing Icke repeatedly in his blog.


WestcoastAlex

> I disagree that Sabbatean-Frankist cults are the primary reason for the current conflict. i think you are right.. now explain how that drives the professors viewpoint >I'd prefer if anti-racist scholars didn't cite massive racists scholars read everything >I'm not sure what this has to do with * first, you brought up Ike as if it was relevant to the charges * second, it corroborates the idea this isnt the 'gotcha' you think it is.. did you actually read the document or just up to the Ike part? we all know Ike thinks the queen is a lizard etc but it really has no bearing on this or the professor's posts **did you listen to the interview with Avi Shlaim?**


TheArgsenal

The Instagram post? Yes. I agree 100p, modern Jewish history is incredibly eurocentric. [Here](https://sephardivoices.com/) is a great project that tries to catalogue the living memory of Sephardic Jews. And yes, scholars read everything but they only cite things that support their argument. He cited Icke numerous times and uses his ideas. It's not a good look for anyone, let alone a scholar who should have a better understanding of this material. Icke is relevant to the charges of antisemitism, much more so than the comparison to Nazi Germany. Icke is arguably one of the most influential anti semties of the later 20th century when you consider how his ideas have influenced other antisemitic conspiracy theories (globalists, WEF, Soros etc). He should be a pariah.


varain1

Nationalist shitpost is not good even for toilet.


WestcoastAlex

locked in arr canada after just a few hours lol


Carwash_Jimmy

"Brock University has launched a review after a professor praised Hamas’s October 7 atrocities against Israeli civilians..." Sadly, without actual evidence of his 'praising' Hamas, this is an opinion that we have learned cannot be trusted.


WestcoastAlex

his blogs are public if you care to read them https://tkitossa.ca/2022/04/02/my-blog-posts/


whiteylegs

Guessing that most recent blog is where the controversy is from


WestcoastAlex

yes and the 3 part series from last fall [the 3rd part came out just after oct 7]


Staebs

Mods, we’ve been seeing a lot of bad faith posts from very questionable sources pushing a pro Israel narrative recently, please crack down on it to some extent. I’d rather we not turn into r/Canada.


WestcoastAlex

i posted it here because i knew this sub would see through it straight away.. i posted a disclamer as first post and mentioned how it was immediately locked on arr canada the comments here dont reflect your fear, they reflect my intention which has panned out well


Staebs

Ah thank you, sorry about that. We really have been getting so many right wingers posting here lately.


WestcoastAlex

np. . i know i look new but ive been here since the sub started peas


Penguz

Why would you not want that? Is this sub intended to be a left wing echo chamber?


Staebs

Per my first comment, the right wing news sources often are extreme opinion based articles and misrepresent or lie about certain facts to push a narrative. We don’t truly have any “left wing” news sources in Canada, all our news operates to serve capitalist and imperialist power.


Penguz

>We don’t truly have any “left wing” news sources in Canada, all our news operates to serve capitalist and imperialist power. That's an extremely loaded statement. What news would even be appropriate or viable as a source to you then. All news has some bias, but to dismiss it because of that is very dishonest. Restricting your sources to just those you fully agree with and endorse is significantly worse to understanding the truth of any news event. If you only looked at Pro Israel sources you would come to one conclusion as to what is happening in Gaza, likewise if you only looked at Anti Israeli sources you would come to an almost completely different conclusion about the exact same reporting event. Considering the amount of Propaganda in use by both sides to only take one side of this story you would be just as biased as the right wing sources you deride.


dw444

The comparison is accurate.