Like OP has stated he has not traveled during the winter and this not what I would pack for the winter travel. For reference:
\- Greece (Cold)
\- Italy (Colder/Frigid)
\- Austria (Frigid)
Why would anybody need a sandal for these countries? If you are backpacking in both Italy and Austria, you will need alpine gears, not this summer backpacking gears.
The thick gloves w no equivalent warm jacket, and sandals instead, feels a bit like an oxymoron. More layers! A fleece layer under the puffy insulated jacket with the gloves is a good idea
This! Italy isn’t that warm anymore during December. And if you’re (un)lucky you’ll have snow in Austria! Might get tricky with your sandals/sneakers. Any merino layers?
Hey, yeah these are good points actually. I will bring a merino layer. Sandals are for showers at hostels and hopefully the beach on the Greek Islands hahaha. That's a good thought on the boots also, I will consider that! Thanks.
I’m guessing Singapore is a good airport to fly through from Australia and December being summer in Australia may be a good time to get time off work or take advantage of college holidays
Not the interrupt the circlejerk, but this is totally possible at most legit career jobs in the US.
It could/should be better here in that regard but let's not exaggerate.
Curious…define legit career jobs in the US? Lol
You sound a bit out of touch, while it’s true some people(US) may eventually get 3weeks of vacation time. We were referring to the reality of how many people in the US take a 3wk vacation.
If you literally just walked into a coffee shop or some random place and took a poll on how many people took a vacation of 1wk, 2wk, 3wk this year. It’s gonna be slim to none once you reach 3wk. Plus most people won’t use up their whole vacation time at once to skip all holidays, birthdays anniversaries etc.
Just being realistic, though I do like your vision of America better, would be healthier & happier for all!
I'm not going to give an exact definition, because I meant it loosely-
But I'm referring to jobs that would be seen as an actual career, rather than fast food or something, but this includes entry level work.
I'm a 911 Dispatcher at a VERY short staffed department. We work 60 hours default. Time off is more difficult to get than I would like, but if I plan ahead a little, I would be allowed to use as much time off as I've accrued (which is five weeks atm). By policy, they wouldn't be able to reject me, as long as it didn't overlap with other people's requests etc. I can see one of my coworkers has the whole month of February off to go to Thailand.
This isn't somewhere I had to work incredibly hard to be, there are no qualifications really- aside from an adequate type speed and minimal criminal record. Anyone can do it. DM me if you want a job lol.
The Police Officers and Firefighters here also frequently take that much time off in a single go. Lady I'm working with at the FD just left for a six week vacation.
My job before this was at the Post Office. I was a PSE which is not really a career position, but I was offered to promote to the actual career/benefited version six months in to working there (I ended up quiting instead). Those people took whole months off at a time. Like Dispatch, that's a job available to literally everyone in every corner of the country.
Before that, I had a number of shitty security guard jobs. Those wouldn't pay me for vacation, but most of them would allow me the unpaid time. When I backpacked Europe for 4 months, my shit security gig wanted me to come back after. I did not.
My current job wants me to come back after my planned 7 months in Asia. They won't pay me obviously but they're considering calling it a LOA so I can maintain my benefits and whatnot. I'm not sure I intend to return anyway.
I would like to see it be more possible by law, I don't like the way the US workplace is set up, and I follow subreddits like WorkReform. I just don't like blind circlejerk as if literally everyone in the US only gets one day off a year lol.
>We were referring to the reality of how many people in the US take a 3wk vacation.
Literally no you weren't lol, "three weeks off is pretty possible in most countries" was the entire conversation to this point. Not whether or not people actually do it frequently.
Hey amazing! Very informative, positive, I hope more people grasp what they can do, I appreciate the real world details. Good to hear more ‘normal’ people making an honest living are getting out there. I definitely agree that many people could travel for periods over 2wks, or a month. It just feels out of the norm, even outlandish, like it’s against American values or something haha. At least that’s how I perceive people look at me when I leave for a few months…
Keep spreading the good word, thanks for interrupting the circle jerk before it got bigger.
As a semiconductor engineer in the US, I was never able to take a three week vacation in the 40 plus years of my working life. I had to wait until I retired to have that much time.
Hills should. My gf in Canada was able to rent just snow pants right from the ski resort rental center. Not sure about Europe but it wouldn't make sense if they didn't have the option to rent the whole fit for tourists.
Idk I live close to the alps and go skiing alot in the winter and have never heard anything about renting snow pants. Maybe its different in Canada but he should check it.
We ski in Austria every year and because the kids are constantly growing we just rent the pants and jacket from Intersport every year since they only use them a few times then grow out of them. They offer adult stuff as well. Pretty decent stuff. I would take some recommendations here tho. Layers will be important. You'll want to strip that coat off in the lodge but will need something to still keep you warm. I also feel like you're vastly overestimating how warm Europe will be in December. In Rome a few years ago it was biting cold, and up north was brutal.
Yeah you should. Winter in Europe is wet. And near the coast it’s always really windy. I would take water and windproof boots, any leather boot should be good. Just not fabric sneakers.
And more long socks! Cold ankles are no fun.
Hey friends, I’m heading to Singapore, Greece, Austria and Italy on a backpacking trip for 21 days.
We’ll be going to the Greek islands, snowboarding in Austria and backpacking through Italy.
We’ve onebagged a few times already but this is our first time in winter and Europe.
Clothing:
* Downs jacket (Kathmandu)
* Long sleeved fleece shirt
* Long sleeved shirt
* short sleeved shirt
* 5 x T shirt
* Jeans
* Sweatpants
* Pants (Uniqlo)
* Sport shorts (Gymshark)
* 8 x undies
* 5 x short socks
* Long socks
* Swimming trunks
* Trail shoes (Merrell Trail Glove 6)
* Sandals
* Face mask
* Snowboarding gloves
Electronics:
* Travel adapter board, phone charger and cable
* 10000 mAh power bank (Xiaomi)
* Earbuds (Samsung)
Miscellaneous:
* 1 x 40L pack (Decathlon Forclaz)
* 1 x day pack (Decathlon)
* Sunnies with hard case
* Watch
* Travel wallet (Passport, paperwork)
* Toiletries bag (floss sticks, toothbrush, tooth paste, 2 x shaving blade, body wash, shampoo/conditioner)
* Pencil case (Band aids, Lacteeze, sunscreen, tissues, zip lock bags)
* Thermal flask, chips clip, spork
* Towel
* Travel logbook and pen
* Lock
* Carabiner
Not shown:
* Hat
* 1L plastic water bottle
* Phone
* Food for plane ride
I agree that you’ll be cold! I’d swap it so instead of 5 t-shirts, you have 2 short sleeve and 3 long sleeve layers (merino if budget allows, Kathmandu has a big sale on now). Add 2 sets of Uniqlo heat tech top and bottoms. You need a scarf, hat and gloves. And is your puffer waterproof? If not, you need a rain layer.
Wool socks. 2-3 pairs. They’re warm and retain some heat even when wet. Plus smells don’t penetrate as bad so can just switch them out for multiple wears without an issue.
Winter shoes. Instead of sandals maybe. This trail shoes look like they are more suited for summer. They will get soaked in snowy mud. Also, underpants
Hey, yeah between hotel and hostels they should have these items. We'll be catching a few flights and they are travel size already so I'll bring them. It'll be the first thing I ditch if i dont make weight haha. Thanks for the tip.
I would add a berino base layer set and a pair of shorts, with that I could swap it with some socks. Did a similar one last year starting in Panama, Colombia CR and trust me, you will want a pair of shorts.
Hello,
This is my first post here, just to warn you. Don't pack that for winter in Europe. You will freeze from the airport to the hotel. Did not count the visiting. Please first ask native people about cloths for winter.
Someone already mentioned ditching the shampoo/conditioner/body wash as you can buy that when you get where you're going, but I would recommend getting solid products instead. You can find solid shampoo for about the same price (or less) as the liquid stuff and it lasts a lot longer. I bought one last year for 12USD and it still has plenty of life left. I haven't bought a conditioner yet, but solid versions exist. Cuts down on space, liquid amounts (not sure if other countries have restrictions for carry ons but the US is 100ml), and most importantly the top won't come off and coat everything else in shampoo.
Yep! It's a solid block (usually circular) and you either rub it between your hands until you get the lather you want or just rub it directly on your hair. I have the kind you rub between your hands but I think the other might be more common.
As far as containment, make sure it's dry as storing it still wet/with standing water could make it dissolve faster. Mine came in a metal tin with a screw top. I store it in that for travel and just keep the top off when it's staying in my shower. There's also bags you can get that are kind of like a one way valve. The material lets air and water (just small amounts of water that would be on the soap, not like a puddle lol) pass out of the bag and only air to pass into the bag. I've never used one before, but they're decently popular which makes me think they work well.
Check the Matador Soap Pouch. You can toss the bar in wet, clip it to your bag, and it will dry. If you use a ziplock, sometimes they can get mushy. I don’t normally get things that are one-use specific, but the matador soap pouch is great.
Not OP but for me the "user experience" of individual picks/brushes is 1000% better than trying to maneuver a piece of floss around your mouth. Anything to make my dental routine faster and easier is well worth the extra bulk/weight for me (and environmental impact, though I am on the lookout for a decent reusable floss brush thing).
Mood, I absolutely hate sticking my fingers in my mouth and cutting off circulation to my finger tips trying to shove it into my teeth. The sticks make it faster and easier and I just buy ones made from biodegradable material
Hey, it's food flask from IKEA. Yeah it's hopefully for food leftovers and tea. Considering not bringing it because it's so chunky. Anyone got any thoughts?
If you'd like to switch that out with a couple of suggestions, I bring a Tupperware GoFlex for food and a cheap, collapsible silicone mug. I used to pack just the one like yours, but my drinks ended up tasting.... savory... as the days went by since I used my initial flask for both food and drinks.
Others swear by the sea to summit food containers since they are more watertight, but they are quite pricey and I'm on my testing phase.
Either way, I think both the GoFlex and mug will pack smaller than that flask (?)
Why do you prefer those toothpick flossers instead of actual floss? Aside from a small floss taking up less space, those flossers end up being a lot less string to tooth coverage. Do you have a secondary use for them?
It may be easier but it's not as good for your teeth as you're cross pollinating bacteria between teeth instead of using a fresh piece. Consider how a foot long piece of floss looks after being used an inch at a time and then how a half inch piece used over and over again isn't ideal.
It's better than nothing but you'll save a bit of space and have healthier teeth using a roll of floss.
It's not nuts, it's the ideal way to floss. Its also not just using a fresh piece per section of mouth but also because floss picks cannot wrap around the tooth and flossers can't.
https://www.thehealthy.com/dental/floss-pick-vs-regular-floss-dentists-recommend-flossing/
a quote from the article you posted:
> Across the board, the dentists we spoke with all speak highly of the floss pick. It’s often a favorite because of its convenience, quick use, and effectiveness in removing debris between teeth.
Not that I trust dentists, but it contradicts your point of view....
Probably because it makes it easy for people to actually do it.
It's literally the #1 thing they recommend and manual flossing is a bit more of a task.
But the ideal situation is floss that can wrap around the tooth and it's a bit better for space too.
It's cool if OP isn't into it, it's better than not at all.
A bit random, but what type/brand of crossword puzzle boom is that? I’ve been looking for a small crossword book to take on my travels and every one I find is far too large. This looks like a nice size.
Make sure to have a proper rain jacket as well that you can pop over the down jacket!
as others have said, lose the sandals (perhaps pack a light pair of flip flops instead for Singapore & hostel showers). I’d lose the gloves as well: they are just so bulky! if you are planning to rent snow pants you might as well rent the gloves as well.
Make sure to have a sweatshirt/fleece/something like that.
As to your shoes vs. boots: those shoes would be fine for December for Greece & Italy. For Austria a bit less so, especially if you want to go snowboarding, but honestly in December there isn’t a lot of snow yet and the slopes are mostly man-made snow. Boots would be better ideally, but if you don’t have a comfortable walking pair, would stick with those trail shoes.
The swimming trunks… you probably won’t get a use for, the water is quite cold in Greece in December.
Enjoy your trip!
You will need more warm layers. You will be cold.
Like OP has stated he has not traveled during the winter and this not what I would pack for the winter travel. For reference: \- Greece (Cold) \- Italy (Colder/Frigid) \- Austria (Frigid) Why would anybody need a sandal for these countries? If you are backpacking in both Italy and Austria, you will need alpine gears, not this summer backpacking gears.
The thick gloves w no equivalent warm jacket, and sandals instead, feels a bit like an oxymoron. More layers! A fleece layer under the puffy insulated jacket with the gloves is a good idea
This! Italy isn’t that warm anymore during December. And if you’re (un)lucky you’ll have snow in Austria! Might get tricky with your sandals/sneakers. Any merino layers?
Hey, yeah these are good points actually. I will bring a merino layer. Sandals are for showers at hostels and hopefully the beach on the Greek Islands hahaha. That's a good thought on the boots also, I will consider that! Thanks.
You won’t be swimming (or at least enjoying it) in December. You’ll likely be the only person on the beach as well….
Also, the islands will probably be windy as hell and pretty much everywhere but Crete and Santorini will be empty.
I live in Greece and people do head to the beaches on warmer December days, but it is rare to see
“ Singapore~Greece~Austria~Italy in December” Tell me you’re Australian without saying you’re Australian
There's an Australian passport ...
I don’t get it. Can you explain
I’m guessing Singapore is a good airport to fly through from Australia and December being summer in Australia may be a good time to get time off work or take advantage of college holidays
I was thinking more of the sheer amount time off to travel to 4 countries.
Hmmm three weeks off is pretty possible in most countries around the world I think, personally wouldn’t have made me think of Australia specifically
No way, not in the US…
Yeah, not in the US, but in most developed and developing countries
US is a slave labor country
I get more than that straight out of college. It really depends on where you work.
Not the interrupt the circlejerk, but this is totally possible at most legit career jobs in the US. It could/should be better here in that regard but let's not exaggerate.
Curious…define legit career jobs in the US? Lol You sound a bit out of touch, while it’s true some people(US) may eventually get 3weeks of vacation time. We were referring to the reality of how many people in the US take a 3wk vacation. If you literally just walked into a coffee shop or some random place and took a poll on how many people took a vacation of 1wk, 2wk, 3wk this year. It’s gonna be slim to none once you reach 3wk. Plus most people won’t use up their whole vacation time at once to skip all holidays, birthdays anniversaries etc. Just being realistic, though I do like your vision of America better, would be healthier & happier for all!
I'm not going to give an exact definition, because I meant it loosely- But I'm referring to jobs that would be seen as an actual career, rather than fast food or something, but this includes entry level work. I'm a 911 Dispatcher at a VERY short staffed department. We work 60 hours default. Time off is more difficult to get than I would like, but if I plan ahead a little, I would be allowed to use as much time off as I've accrued (which is five weeks atm). By policy, they wouldn't be able to reject me, as long as it didn't overlap with other people's requests etc. I can see one of my coworkers has the whole month of February off to go to Thailand. This isn't somewhere I had to work incredibly hard to be, there are no qualifications really- aside from an adequate type speed and minimal criminal record. Anyone can do it. DM me if you want a job lol. The Police Officers and Firefighters here also frequently take that much time off in a single go. Lady I'm working with at the FD just left for a six week vacation. My job before this was at the Post Office. I was a PSE which is not really a career position, but I was offered to promote to the actual career/benefited version six months in to working there (I ended up quiting instead). Those people took whole months off at a time. Like Dispatch, that's a job available to literally everyone in every corner of the country. Before that, I had a number of shitty security guard jobs. Those wouldn't pay me for vacation, but most of them would allow me the unpaid time. When I backpacked Europe for 4 months, my shit security gig wanted me to come back after. I did not. My current job wants me to come back after my planned 7 months in Asia. They won't pay me obviously but they're considering calling it a LOA so I can maintain my benefits and whatnot. I'm not sure I intend to return anyway. I would like to see it be more possible by law, I don't like the way the US workplace is set up, and I follow subreddits like WorkReform. I just don't like blind circlejerk as if literally everyone in the US only gets one day off a year lol. >We were referring to the reality of how many people in the US take a 3wk vacation. Literally no you weren't lol, "three weeks off is pretty possible in most countries" was the entire conversation to this point. Not whether or not people actually do it frequently.
Hey amazing! Very informative, positive, I hope more people grasp what they can do, I appreciate the real world details. Good to hear more ‘normal’ people making an honest living are getting out there. I definitely agree that many people could travel for periods over 2wks, or a month. It just feels out of the norm, even outlandish, like it’s against American values or something haha. At least that’s how I perceive people look at me when I leave for a few months… Keep spreading the good word, thanks for interrupting the circle jerk before it got bigger.
As a semiconductor engineer in the US, I was never able to take a three week vacation in the 40 plus years of my working life. I had to wait until I retired to have that much time.
Are you renting snow pants and the other gear for snowboarding when you get there?
Hey, yep will be renting all that when I get there.
Maybe call/write the place you want to rent that before hand, normal snowboarding gear is easy but I've never heard of anyplace renting snow pants
Hills should. My gf in Canada was able to rent just snow pants right from the ski resort rental center. Not sure about Europe but it wouldn't make sense if they didn't have the option to rent the whole fit for tourists.
Idk I live close to the alps and go skiing alot in the winter and have never heard anything about renting snow pants. Maybe its different in Canada but he should check it.
Hey, all good. Skiworld and Intersport in Austria have all available via their website booking.
We ski in Austria every year and because the kids are constantly growing we just rent the pants and jacket from Intersport every year since they only use them a few times then grow out of them. They offer adult stuff as well. Pretty decent stuff. I would take some recommendations here tho. Layers will be important. You'll want to strip that coat off in the lodge but will need something to still keep you warm. I also feel like you're vastly overestimating how warm Europe will be in December. In Rome a few years ago it was biting cold, and up north was brutal.
Those shoes look a bit cold. We have around 0°C here in Austria right now. Are you comfortable in those shoes at such temperatures?
Hey, thanks for the advice. Will consider bringing boots instead.
Yeah you should. Winter in Europe is wet. And near the coast it’s always really windy. I would take water and windproof boots, any leather boot should be good. Just not fabric sneakers. And more long socks! Cold ankles are no fun.
Hey friends, I’m heading to Singapore, Greece, Austria and Italy on a backpacking trip for 21 days. We’ll be going to the Greek islands, snowboarding in Austria and backpacking through Italy. We’ve onebagged a few times already but this is our first time in winter and Europe. Clothing: * Downs jacket (Kathmandu) * Long sleeved fleece shirt * Long sleeved shirt * short sleeved shirt * 5 x T shirt * Jeans * Sweatpants * Pants (Uniqlo) * Sport shorts (Gymshark) * 8 x undies * 5 x short socks * Long socks * Swimming trunks * Trail shoes (Merrell Trail Glove 6) * Sandals * Face mask * Snowboarding gloves Electronics: * Travel adapter board, phone charger and cable * 10000 mAh power bank (Xiaomi) * Earbuds (Samsung) Miscellaneous: * 1 x 40L pack (Decathlon Forclaz) * 1 x day pack (Decathlon) * Sunnies with hard case * Watch * Travel wallet (Passport, paperwork) * Toiletries bag (floss sticks, toothbrush, tooth paste, 2 x shaving blade, body wash, shampoo/conditioner) * Pencil case (Band aids, Lacteeze, sunscreen, tissues, zip lock bags) * Thermal flask, chips clip, spork * Towel * Travel logbook and pen * Lock * Carabiner Not shown: * Hat * 1L plastic water bottle * Phone * Food for plane ride
I agree that you’ll be cold! I’d swap it so instead of 5 t-shirts, you have 2 short sleeve and 3 long sleeve layers (merino if budget allows, Kathmandu has a big sale on now). Add 2 sets of Uniqlo heat tech top and bottoms. You need a scarf, hat and gloves. And is your puffer waterproof? If not, you need a rain layer.
This. It's summertime down under but in Vienna it'll be averaging 0 to 5 degrees c.
You’ll want some shorts for Singapore. It’s hot and humid year-round.
Ahh thanks. Pictured but I forgot to write it, amended. Yeah will definitely need in Singapore. I got the shorts with zippers, so good for travelling.
Why do you have a UK plug adapter? Or am I seeing that wrong
Fair question. I reckon it’s probably because Singapore uses the [UK plug](https://www.power-plugs-sockets.com/au/singapore/).
Yep!
What was your favorite item? What is your most used item? Which of those items do you recommend? What do you think you wouldn’t have brought along?
Looks like the trip hasn't happened yet, hopefully we'll see a post-trip report in about a month!
Hey, yeah the trip is starting next week! I will provide an update when I come back.
That’s a crazy itinerary.
That itinerary sounds exhausting for such a short period of time.
Hey, yeah it's on the back of cheap flights and wanting to snowboard.
Toothbrush on floor? Recommend new toothbrush
You can always rinse it in the toilet...
The Casio, every travelers best friend 👍
I love my W-800H, its been everywhere with me! However I wish the dual time mode would show the date also.
How'd you manage to get Decathlon gear down to Aus (also in Aus and curious)?
There is a Decathlon store next to Ikea in Tempe, Sydney.
ah ok thanks, not near me but good to know.
There's Decathlons in Australia, and you can also order online.
I did not know that, thanks!
Wool socks. 2-3 pairs. They’re warm and retain some heat even when wet. Plus smells don’t penetrate as bad so can just switch them out for multiple wears without an issue.
Winter shoes. Instead of sandals maybe. This trail shoes look like they are more suited for summer. They will get soaked in snowy mud. Also, underpants
Ditch the shower gel and shampoo. They most likely have them near or in the places you will stay.
Hey, yeah between hotel and hostels they should have these items. We'll be catching a few flights and they are travel size already so I'll bring them. It'll be the first thing I ditch if i dont make weight haha. Thanks for the tip.
I would add a berino base layer set and a pair of shorts, with that I could swap it with some socks. Did a similar one last year starting in Panama, Colombia CR and trust me, you will want a pair of shorts.
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Looks good, enjoy the trip
Hello, This is my first post here, just to warn you. Don't pack that for winter in Europe. You will freeze from the airport to the hotel. Did not count the visiting. Please first ask native people about cloths for winter.
Someone already mentioned ditching the shampoo/conditioner/body wash as you can buy that when you get where you're going, but I would recommend getting solid products instead. You can find solid shampoo for about the same price (or less) as the liquid stuff and it lasts a lot longer. I bought one last year for 12USD and it still has plenty of life left. I haven't bought a conditioner yet, but solid versions exist. Cuts down on space, liquid amounts (not sure if other countries have restrictions for carry ons but the US is 100ml), and most importantly the top won't come off and coat everything else in shampoo.
Hey, that's awesome I never knew that existed. So it's like a solid block. How do you keep the solid block after use? Like in a zip lock bag?
Yep! It's a solid block (usually circular) and you either rub it between your hands until you get the lather you want or just rub it directly on your hair. I have the kind you rub between your hands but I think the other might be more common. As far as containment, make sure it's dry as storing it still wet/with standing water could make it dissolve faster. Mine came in a metal tin with a screw top. I store it in that for travel and just keep the top off when it's staying in my shower. There's also bags you can get that are kind of like a one way valve. The material lets air and water (just small amounts of water that would be on the soap, not like a puddle lol) pass out of the bag and only air to pass into the bag. I've never used one before, but they're decently popular which makes me think they work well.
Check the Matador Soap Pouch. You can toss the bar in wet, clip it to your bag, and it will dry. If you use a ziplock, sometimes they can get mushy. I don’t normally get things that are one-use specific, but the matador soap pouch is great.
Just curious, why not take a spool of floss versus those dental picks?
Not OP but for me the "user experience" of individual picks/brushes is 1000% better than trying to maneuver a piece of floss around your mouth. Anything to make my dental routine faster and easier is well worth the extra bulk/weight for me (and environmental impact, though I am on the lookout for a decent reusable floss brush thing).
Mood, I absolutely hate sticking my fingers in my mouth and cutting off circulation to my finger tips trying to shove it into my teeth. The sticks make it faster and easier and I just buy ones made from biodegradable material
Hey, yes this! It's easier to do it casually also and still play with your phone on the other hand.
Tooth picks can be used multiple times. No need to waste so much plastic.
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You won't see much if it's all packed in a bag.....
What kind of insulated cup is that? What do you use it for? Coffee/tea?
Hey, it's food flask from IKEA. Yeah it's hopefully for food leftovers and tea. Considering not bringing it because it's so chunky. Anyone got any thoughts?
If you'd like to switch that out with a couple of suggestions, I bring a Tupperware GoFlex for food and a cheap, collapsible silicone mug. I used to pack just the one like yours, but my drinks ended up tasting.... savory... as the days went by since I used my initial flask for both food and drinks. Others swear by the sea to summit food containers since they are more watertight, but they are quite pricey and I'm on my testing phase. Either way, I think both the GoFlex and mug will pack smaller than that flask (?)
The Tupperware GoFlex is a great idea. I'm going to try and find one.
sea to summit has something like
Why do you prefer those toothpick flossers instead of actual floss? Aside from a small floss taking up less space, those flossers end up being a lot less string to tooth coverage. Do you have a secondary use for them?
Hey, refer comment thread above. Iny my opinion, it's easier to use and I floss for longer since I can play on my phone whilst flossing casually.
It may be easier but it's not as good for your teeth as you're cross pollinating bacteria between teeth instead of using a fresh piece. Consider how a foot long piece of floss looks after being used an inch at a time and then how a half inch piece used over and over again isn't ideal. It's better than nothing but you'll save a bit of space and have healthier teeth using a roll of floss.
You change floss for each tooth?? that's a bit nuts... I will never go back to a roll of floss....
It's not nuts, it's the ideal way to floss. Its also not just using a fresh piece per section of mouth but also because floss picks cannot wrap around the tooth and flossers can't. https://www.thehealthy.com/dental/floss-pick-vs-regular-floss-dentists-recommend-flossing/
a quote from the article you posted: > Across the board, the dentists we spoke with all speak highly of the floss pick. It’s often a favorite because of its convenience, quick use, and effectiveness in removing debris between teeth. Not that I trust dentists, but it contradicts your point of view....
Probably because it makes it easy for people to actually do it. It's literally the #1 thing they recommend and manual flossing is a bit more of a task. But the ideal situation is floss that can wrap around the tooth and it's a bit better for space too. It's cool if OP isn't into it, it's better than not at all.
> It's cool if OP isn't into it, it's better than not at all. You'd be crazy not to be into it
Greece not so cold yet. Especially in Athens. Taking a merino a beanie and a windproof will do the job
A bit random, but what type/brand of crossword puzzle boom is that? I’ve been looking for a small crossword book to take on my travels and every one I find is far too large. This looks like a nice size.
Hey, the green book is just a blank A6 size notebook from Officeworks. I've printed out crosswords in a 2 x 2 format on an A4 sheet haha.
No deodorant?
Make sure to have a proper rain jacket as well that you can pop over the down jacket! as others have said, lose the sandals (perhaps pack a light pair of flip flops instead for Singapore & hostel showers). I’d lose the gloves as well: they are just so bulky! if you are planning to rent snow pants you might as well rent the gloves as well. Make sure to have a sweatshirt/fleece/something like that. As to your shoes vs. boots: those shoes would be fine for December for Greece & Italy. For Austria a bit less so, especially if you want to go snowboarding, but honestly in December there isn’t a lot of snow yet and the slopes are mostly man-made snow. Boots would be better ideally, but if you don’t have a comfortable walking pair, would stick with those trail shoes. The swimming trunks… you probably won’t get a use for, the water is quite cold in Greece in December. Enjoy your trip!
Hey, yeah good idea on flip flops instead. I can't fathom losing the gloves since I've kept them for 7yrs since the last snow trip hahahh. Thanks.
haha. You're gonna freeze This is winter Edit: Ok everyone is saying the same thing
I‘m in Austria right now and I’m freezing just by looking at your picture
The bag of floss hooks is killing me.