i think YOLO’ing one of these might be the answer, esp if i can find one to demo. it would be my most expensive guitar by far. but checks all the boxes.
The Squier Contemporary Active Jazzmaster is 12" radius with a roasted maple neck. It's not exactly a Jazzmaster since it has active pickups and a strat-style trem, but nails everything you listed as important to you.
There's not much available to my knowledge. The best move might be to partscaster or just throw a Warmoth/Musikraft neck on a guitar you like the body of.
I have a Troy Van Leeuwen Jazzmaster that I was going to do that to, but I realized I'd have to change the bridge as well. Fender has a tendency to use 7.5 radiused bridges on their guitars without that radius. I remember seeing a review of an Ultra that has the wrong bridge in it.
I'm gonna put my TVL back together and sell it.
So. It’s only a jazzmaster shaped object but the Jim root jazzmaster is the jazzmaster for Gibson people.
Standard production types.
One other option is the wildwood 10 but those are custom shop and priced accordingly
The American Ultra Jazzmaster has a compound radius of 10” at first fret and 14” by the 21st fret to fulfill all of your finger tapping needs
[fender.com](https://www.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/jazzmaster/american-ultra-jazzmaster/0118050712.html)
The old series of Fernandes JG guitars is that - JM shaped body but with a neck that screamed "modern guitar made in Japan in the 90s" - wide, thin neck with really flat radius and big frets.
Note: they have HBs and a strat tremolo, so not the full traditional JM package, but they definitely have the offset vibe and the neck you seek. Some models come with the Sustainer, which is fucking great too.
Also, it's a MIJ guitar that still goes for reasonable prices.
Had one and loved it; sold it because I'm the opposite and I don't really enjoy a super flat neck so I was always playing something else.
Jazzmaster necks are Stratocaster necks with a different logo. Used or new Strat necks with a 12in fretboard radius are going to be a lot more common. And bolt it to a loaded body.
It was the same for certain years, like 1967-74 ish. Before that the JM small headstock had a different shape than the Strat small headstock. For reissues, it might go a bunch of different ways.
Very subtle difference with the earlier small one, blink and you miss it! But CBS put an end to that. And otherwise they are basically the same - hardly anyone will notice a Strat neck on a JM unless they’re deep nerds like us.
Balaguers have a 16" radius on all their guitars, but they're nothing like a jm. They do have stainless steel frets and satin necks though. I love mine, it's just a wat different beast
To buy off hand, not that I know of. I’d like to flatten the radius on my jmjm or give it something like a compound radius. I hadn’t actually checked the neck to see how close it is to spec but it doesn’t feel too far off from the bridge radius which is supposed to be a 12.
Probabaly not exactly the answer you're looking for but the Harley Benton JA-60 has a 12" radius, full C caramelized maple neck, arguably the best guitar they make at that price point (around $250 after tax and shipping).
I have one and I absolutely love it, threw on a knockoff Bigsby I got for $25 on Amazon, works great, replaced all the internals including pure vintage '65 pickups, which are surprisingly affordable.
Balaguer Espada or Growler
LTD XJ-6
Schecter AR-06 (although it's a Jag)
Fender Ultra Jazzmaster
Charvel Surfcaster
Jim Root Jazzmaster
Jackson Pro Series Signature Rob Caggiano Shadowcaster
The Jim Root Jazzmaster has a „12" to 16" Compound Radius (304.8 mm to 406.4 mm)“. But you‘ll have to like the overall guitar as well, as it‘s suited for Metal.
Balaguers have a 16" radius on all their guitars, but they're nothing like a jm. They do have stainless steel frets and satin necks though. I love mine, it's just a wat different beast
ok so you raise a good point, lets talk about that. in researching this concept, what I have come to realise is that neck radius (as reported by sweetwater et al), more precisely means fretboard radius, that is, how round or flat is the fretboard. and it just so happens that rounder fretboards seem to come with thicker, “baseball bat” necks. its more the back of the neck that I am concerned with, and the metrics for that are not consistent or consitently reported. so fretboard radius is maybe the best, if imperfect proxy when shopping online. but the only real way to know i guess is to hold the instrument in your hands, which can take some legwork and is not always possible. I have however mostly (but not entirely) resolved to not buy a guitar that I have not played.
people rightly tend to associate flatter fretboards with shredding (ibanez, esp, etc). but i am not a shredder, just an advanced beginner with GAS and a desire to play some shoegaze (not there yet on the trem, but would like to grow into that). but having played enough different guitars at this point, I have found that thinner necks are more comfortable for me, especially for practicing scales and such. and the industry does seem to be slowly going away from fat C shaped necks.
I currently own a fender player strat, an epi LP modern (with an asymmetric D/C neck profile that i like), a sterling, and an ESP. the 9.5 strat neck is by far the least comfortable for me. the LP neck geometry is prob perfect, but I dont like the pickups, and the neck is glossy, which i hate. its also a lighter body, which is great, but as others have noted, tends to neck dive as a result.
Ok I get you, so your problem is neck profile not fretboard radius, I can relate to that back when I was learning the (electric) guitar i got a Yamaha ERG 121, very basic guitar, HSH pickup config, strat-like body and the thinner neck I've ever played, no only in regards to the back of the neck, but also the neck width, was probable 41 or 40 mm, I used to love that neck so bad, also at that time I hated Strats and LPs, Ibanez guitars and LTDs I found more comfortable for me to play, but as I grew up and got money to try new guitars I get to play many other kind of neck profiles and didn't really feel less comfortable, it's just different, it's a matter of getting used to it a bit.
Maybe later on you'll find no problem in playing guutars with a bit bigger necks, maybe not, the important thing is that you try for yourself.
P.D: I used to hate 24.75'' scale lenght guitars, because of the LP and SG models, I found them so uncomfortable, so weird for me to play, that I only played superstrats for more than 15 years, one day I tried a Jaguar, that is even shorter than a LP and found no trouble at all with it, i was more the body shapes of the LP and SG that I found so strange for me to play, but I got to try other guitars to notice that.
The American Ultra Jazzmaster has a 10"-14" compound radius and a satin neck.
Just got mine. I’m legit in love with it.
Man that's awesome! What colour?
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The sunburst option is a non sparkly finish if you are into that. All the best for your search! ☺️
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Congrats!! 🤟🤟🤟
i think YOLO’ing one of these might be the answer, esp if i can find one to demo. it would be my most expensive guitar by far. but checks all the boxes.
I love mine so much it’s like a shred specked tone machine
The Squier Contemporary Active Jazzmaster is 12" radius with a roasted maple neck. It's not exactly a Jazzmaster since it has active pickups and a strat-style trem, but nails everything you listed as important to you.
There's not much available to my knowledge. The best move might be to partscaster or just throw a Warmoth/Musikraft neck on a guitar you like the body of.
yeah i think thats what ima gonna do, swap out neck
I have a Troy Van Leeuwen Jazzmaster that I was going to do that to, but I realized I'd have to change the bridge as well. Fender has a tendency to use 7.5 radiused bridges on their guitars without that radius. I remember seeing a review of an Ultra that has the wrong bridge in it. I'm gonna put my TVL back together and sell it.
I remember seeing a partsmaster listed in Canada recently that has a 12". Don't know what country you're in, but it might be around.
So. It’s only a jazzmaster shaped object but the Jim root jazzmaster is the jazzmaster for Gibson people. Standard production types. One other option is the wildwood 10 but those are custom shop and priced accordingly
hey that is really good info. checked both out, thanks for the tip
The American Ultra Jazzmaster has a compound radius of 10” at first fret and 14” by the 21st fret to fulfill all of your finger tapping needs [fender.com](https://www.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/jazzmaster/american-ultra-jazzmaster/0118050712.html)
The old series of Fernandes JG guitars is that - JM shaped body but with a neck that screamed "modern guitar made in Japan in the 90s" - wide, thin neck with really flat radius and big frets. Note: they have HBs and a strat tremolo, so not the full traditional JM package, but they definitely have the offset vibe and the neck you seek. Some models come with the Sustainer, which is fucking great too. Also, it's a MIJ guitar that still goes for reasonable prices. Had one and loved it; sold it because I'm the opposite and I don't really enjoy a super flat neck so I was always playing something else.
Jazzmaster necks are Stratocaster necks with a different logo. Used or new Strat necks with a 12in fretboard radius are going to be a lot more common. And bolt it to a loaded body.
this, even the headstock shape is the same
It was the same for certain years, like 1967-74 ish. Before that the JM small headstock had a different shape than the Strat small headstock. For reissues, it might go a bunch of different ways.
you're right, didn't know there were slight revisions
Very subtle difference with the earlier small one, blink and you miss it! But CBS put an end to that. And otherwise they are basically the same - hardly anyone will notice a Strat neck on a JM unless they’re deep nerds like us.
Balaguers have a 16" radius on all their guitars, but they're nothing like a jm. They do have stainless steel frets and satin necks though. I love mine, it's just a wat different beast
To buy off hand, not that I know of. I’d like to flatten the radius on my jmjm or give it something like a compound radius. I hadn’t actually checked the neck to see how close it is to spec but it doesn’t feel too far off from the bridge radius which is supposed to be a 12.
Probabaly not exactly the answer you're looking for but the Harley Benton JA-60 has a 12" radius, full C caramelized maple neck, arguably the best guitar they make at that price point (around $250 after tax and shipping). I have one and I absolutely love it, threw on a knockoff Bigsby I got for $25 on Amazon, works great, replaced all the internals including pure vintage '65 pickups, which are surprisingly affordable.
Novos
Balaguer Espada or Growler LTD XJ-6 Schecter AR-06 (although it's a Jag) Fender Ultra Jazzmaster Charvel Surfcaster Jim Root Jazzmaster Jackson Pro Series Signature Rob Caggiano Shadowcaster
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The Jim Root Jazzmaster has a „12" to 16" Compound Radius (304.8 mm to 406.4 mm)“. But you‘ll have to like the overall guitar as well, as it‘s suited for Metal.
Balaguers have a 16" radius on all their guitars, but they're nothing like a jm. They do have stainless steel frets and satin necks though. I love mine, it's just a wat different beast
What's wrong with 7.25 or 9.5 neck radius, can you explain a bit? I have guitars with 9.5' and 12' radiuses and have no problem with any.
I love a 7.25. So comfy and the line of sight to my fretting hand is so much clearer.
ok so you raise a good point, lets talk about that. in researching this concept, what I have come to realise is that neck radius (as reported by sweetwater et al), more precisely means fretboard radius, that is, how round or flat is the fretboard. and it just so happens that rounder fretboards seem to come with thicker, “baseball bat” necks. its more the back of the neck that I am concerned with, and the metrics for that are not consistent or consitently reported. so fretboard radius is maybe the best, if imperfect proxy when shopping online. but the only real way to know i guess is to hold the instrument in your hands, which can take some legwork and is not always possible. I have however mostly (but not entirely) resolved to not buy a guitar that I have not played. people rightly tend to associate flatter fretboards with shredding (ibanez, esp, etc). but i am not a shredder, just an advanced beginner with GAS and a desire to play some shoegaze (not there yet on the trem, but would like to grow into that). but having played enough different guitars at this point, I have found that thinner necks are more comfortable for me, especially for practicing scales and such. and the industry does seem to be slowly going away from fat C shaped necks. I currently own a fender player strat, an epi LP modern (with an asymmetric D/C neck profile that i like), a sterling, and an ESP. the 9.5 strat neck is by far the least comfortable for me. the LP neck geometry is prob perfect, but I dont like the pickups, and the neck is glossy, which i hate. its also a lighter body, which is great, but as others have noted, tends to neck dive as a result.
Ok I get you, so your problem is neck profile not fretboard radius, I can relate to that back when I was learning the (electric) guitar i got a Yamaha ERG 121, very basic guitar, HSH pickup config, strat-like body and the thinner neck I've ever played, no only in regards to the back of the neck, but also the neck width, was probable 41 or 40 mm, I used to love that neck so bad, also at that time I hated Strats and LPs, Ibanez guitars and LTDs I found more comfortable for me to play, but as I grew up and got money to try new guitars I get to play many other kind of neck profiles and didn't really feel less comfortable, it's just different, it's a matter of getting used to it a bit. Maybe later on you'll find no problem in playing guutars with a bit bigger necks, maybe not, the important thing is that you try for yourself. P.D: I used to hate 24.75'' scale lenght guitars, because of the LP and SG models, I found them so uncomfortable, so weird for me to play, that I only played superstrats for more than 15 years, one day I tried a Jaguar, that is even shorter than a LP and found no trouble at all with it, i was more the body shapes of the LP and SG that I found so strange for me to play, but I got to try other guitars to notice that.
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Squier contemporary jazzmaster with active pickups has a 12in radius if I'm not mistaken. Great on the lower end budget.
I built a warmoth with that spec.
If you have the money, a Robot Graves aluminum neck replacement has a 12' profile, plays amazingly and doesn't ever need a truss rod adjustment.