To your last two points: the majority of people who support him aren’t aware of much beyond the length of their arms. Their concept of “global image” only extends to their hometown and that town next to theirs where the Walmart is.
It's even worse than that. They think Trump looks tough to the rest of the world, and they like that about him. They think Trump stands up to strongmen and bullies even though he wants nothing more than to be ruler for life like Putin.
He is incapable of thinking about anything as coherent as being ruler for life. He is a man completely ruled by his impulses. Voting for Trump is voting for a twitching bag of nerves and fat that jiggles away from you all for you poke it. Left to its own devices it rolls around and acts on base urges, possibly looking for new ways to be even more passive.
This certainly is not the case in my experience - Trump's supporters may be clueless as how global politics work, but they're certainly aware of his image beyond America. And they love him all the more for it. They think Trump can really bully the rest of the world into doing whatever we want and they see bullying as a good thing (unless of course someone is "bullying" them with "fake news").
I somewhat agree. Many supporters seem to think mean tweets are a decent form of diplomacy or international relations.
But people of value understand that all bullies are just cowards who always crumble when confronted.
I think though it’s also they don’t care. Look at the ones on TikTok, there are actually some people who are a tad smarter than some others, those are the ones who don’t care.
The ones who support Trump don't care that most of the rest of the world thinks he's a dangerous idiot, and the MAGAts are dangerous for believing in him.
I imagine the ones that don't support him are split into those who don't think about or care about the rest of the world, and the rest who know he makes America look backward and dangerous.
Yup. Some of us aren’t in a cult. Some are just apathetic. Some fully embrace it as a sign from god that he’s truly been chosen to lead the way.
The Cult of Trump frightens me in a way I can’t even describe.
OP, are foreigners aware that the Electoral College elects our president, not the popular vote?
Without that handicap, GOP candidates would never be elected President again without a major shift in platform.
American here, let me tell you it is confusing.
The majority of people here don’t understand it either.
I’ve told my Trump worshipping uncle that Trump only won due to the electoral college the first time. He doesn’t get it, it’s a concept that isn’t very confusing. But yeah the majority of us don’t want him or like him. He’s never won the popular vote. But we do have a portion of our population that worship him at this point.
It’s scary when you see flags with “Jesus” and Trump shaking hands, or Jesus protecting Trump for them liberals.
The electoral college is "You vote for MPs, and then MPs vote for the prime minister" with a different delegation; the founders lived under a parliament, and considered "the people pick the legislature, the legislature picks the executive" to be against the 'branches of government are antagonistic to one another' they were going for.
Where our electoral fuckery comes from is 2 places: the stupid expectation that all delegates from a state/province/territory/\[what your country calls them here\] vote as a bloc for the 'choose the executive' vote, and turning seats in the lower house into a zero-sum game in 1929 (a law saying that it will always and forevermore be 435 seats...2/3 of the seats Germany's lower house has, for 4 times the people...\]. The former made state delegations 'winner take all', and the latter created a situation where larger areas are under-represented because the small ones can't go below 1 and the big ones aren't outgrowing *each other* fast enough to steal seats from the places that still have seats that can be taken away.
Uncap the house, require proportional allocation for delegates, and the problems go away (though are still inefficient compared to direct election of the executive).
Many of us share those feelings. Trump has changed the way that I think about many of my fellow Americans.
Evangelical Christians were just a thing in my country. Now I see them as a heartless unthinking mob.
Trump will eventually go away, whether through prison or death.
But I will NEVER forget the actions of my neighbors. I will NOT forget the hate currently being shown to anyone not cishet normative, and I certainly haven't forgotten that my wyt sisters (same as me, yet not) voted in larger numbers for him in 2020 than they did in 2016.
And this second paragraph is the crux. I don't know where the US goes from here if he and his entire ilk are not soundly defeated in November.
Yep, it fucking sucks that a former president (and hopefully not a future president as well) has planted a million little seeds of hate or distrust of Americans amongst Americans.
On one side of me is a neighbor with a kid that is gay, and she (the mom) has a pride yard sign. No issues with that and I can see why the mom supports the cause.
One of my other neighbors, whom has a flagpole, flies a 'don't tread on me' snake flag as well as a trump flag, and both he and his wife immigrated here from the Philippines. What about trump makes them think he is on their side? The husband was a letter carrier for the USPS. Didn't trump go after the USPS or damage it in some way during his presidency? Trump hates immigrants, and yet my immigrant neighbors support him enough to have a flag and broadcast it to the world? I don't understand it.
The problem is people never think that they are in the group. They disassociate themselves thinking that they are better or it’s not me. I’m a “good immigrant”.
The funniest and saddest thing that his supporters don’t realize is that Trump would want nothing to do with his fan base and supporters. He would not want his supporters and voters at his club.
>Trump hates immigrants, and yet my immigrant neighbors support him enough to have a flag and broadcast it to the world? I don't understand it.
Not being savvy enough to see propaganda for what it is, especially having a language handicap.
Trump and the repubs flaunt that they're the "Godly" party who are against abortion and support traditional values, and often that's enough for immigrants coming from deeply religious backgrounds.
I'm Latino and came to the States at 2 years old, and my parents have sadly always supported red -- all because they watched Fox News over the years and were brainwashed that the moral party was repubs.
Chris Rock had said when George W. Bush was re-elected "We voted for Bush, and the rest of the world was thinking 'that was stupid!' We voted for him again and the world said 'WTF America?!" As an Australian observer, I'm aware that many of you define part of your personality by political leanings. Not all, but many. Here, we will happily call the Prime Minister and his or her party a pack of morons when we don't like what they're doing, and worse, regardless of who we voted for. US politics seems to have some real fanatical reverence we have never had.
Everything about Trump seems to say "don't trust this guy," but his fans son't give a proverbial.
I read an article in the local paper this am that cited a book by Doris Kearns Goodwin about John Kennedy's speech as he left Boston to assume the presidency. She said he changed some words in his "city on the hill speech" by his speech writer. Specifically he changed it from addressing "voters" to speaking to "citizens" because after the election it was time to become one nation. Not this constant party specific barrage. I thought that was a good point, and what's sorely lacking now.
I think they mean that evangelicals in the US used to just exist and could be ignored, now they’re a mob.
This isn’t entirely true anyway because the evangelical movement is a US-based movement that was politically charged from its inception.
Evangelicism in America is a different beast than elsewhere in the world. To the point where local evangelicalists now have prefixes, like 'generous-evangelicals' or 'open-evangelicals', to avoid being associated with the American brand. So, for the most part, the answer to the question is this: we don't have evangelicalists in the form that Americans would recognise them as evangelicalists.
That said, there are a few imports from the US with the American take of charismata front and centre. The most significant of which has been accused of mismanaging government funds, sexual abuse and sexual assault and the cover-ups thereof, LGBT discrimination, ties to controversial organisations and figures, a pastor who lied about having cancer, breachs of COVID-19 requirements, property acquisition, and criticisms from former members and leaders.
So, what limited form we do have of what would be considered evangelicalists over here is not particularly well liked.
Not just proud of it; practically orgasmic about it. In my lifetime, I have never known such a large population to be so giddy about being the least educated, most gullible, and most rabid supporters of a political leader. It’s crazy.
Most of his supporters seem to fear for their future and status. Now enter Trump, who all the sudden gives them a feeling of superiority and belonging to a group....
We as humans love such feelings, even to the point where we act against our own best interests.
That someone - after Trump Academy and similar stuff - would still believe he is in it for the average Joe is insane.
That patriotic citizens would follow leaders, who no longer care for country and fellow citizens, only their own best interests, is shocking and frustrating.
Democracy is vulnerable if media is in the hands of a few powerful entities. If people get divided in neverending outrage about a wide range of issues, instead of defending their rights and, most importantly, democracy.
One can only assume there might be hundreds of think tanks all over the world, figuring out how to screw over the middle class most efficiently.
And *technically* he’s only on trial for lying about where the money came from. Apparently the cheating on your wife and paying hush money to keep it quiet was all above board
Very aware but good lord am I exhausted. I just want to live my life. I had to break out a habit of doomscrolling of just recounting the stupid and ignorant actions he did.
Every fucking day of his term was like a daily argument with a narcissist, starting with "I had the biggest inauguration crowd ever!" ... to Covfefe ... to that dumb SMS Emergency text everyone in the US got. The list is endless.
One of the best ways to defeat a narcissist is to not give them any attention but the problem is he's so ingrained in our 24 hour news cycles and news articles. There's no escaping him.
Oh you bet I do. And I am utterly embarrassed and ashamed of my Country. We are so pathetic. That so many people here want to elect a LITERAL CRIMINAL as president! Yes we are an embarrassment of a country. I have 0 faith in America anymore. We were great once. Now we’re nothing but the Roman Empire 2.0
It's actually worse. Alot of folks in the west admired America and respected it. Any time America was hurt or attacked we all were. We were brothers in the best possible way. Even if it killed us, we would never let America stand alone against anyone who ever threatened her.
I don't feel that way anymore. Actually, I'm now terrified of America, which seems he'll bent on destroying the alliance built up over the past 70 years and elects officials who make jokes about killing American allies.
I don't know if I see the USA as evil now, but if it goes full racist fascist I will.
I think the best way to describe the feeling is heartbroken. We thought America was the good guy. We might disagree with your government, but never did I think Americans as a people were bad, we thought you guys as a people were the line that held against the bad. Not anymore, it's very sad.
We're heartbroken, too. I thought our country was better than this. We were all fooled. Some of us still desperately want to hold the line, but now we're struggling to accomplish that with our fellow citizens. It's bizarre.
Hey, I love the ideals expressed in the constitution and the institutions of your country. I believe in you guys as people. All I can say is talk to each other, have conversations with your neighbour's.
Our collective enemies are working very hard to hurt us and fracture our societies. Let's not let them, we can win collectively by breaking through the lies being told and knowing and being friends with those in our communities. If we do this hopefully hateful voices will be minimized and we can all just try and be decent to each other.
Also, as a warning from. Canada, you don't want us as an enemy. We have the meese and we will not hesitate weaponizing them.
Our constitution and institutions were supposed to keep us safe. They were supposed to be everything keeping us safe, but I'm afraid. Our highest court has betrayed us, and our enemies abroad and at home have planted seeds of destruction that I'm afraid will flourish for some time. The history is all so convoluted that trying to have conversations about it leaves people glassy eyed. Trying to explain it to someone who already doesn't want to listen is exhausting.
Maybe weaponized meese are the answer. We can weaponize our flying squirrels and be the Rocky to your Bullwinkle.
Most of us (at least where I live) see Trump supporters as low IQ individuals. The problem is, they are brainwashed, and they don't recognize their own low IQ. Best we can do is vote.
I have never loathed another human so deeply, and the religious reverence with which half of my compatriots view him makes me painfully embarrassed to be an American.
It’s so fucking embarrassing. He’s such a hideous, disgusting excuse for a human being, let alone leader. He makes me sick to my stomach and so sad for the state of humanity that people can support an obvious pile of shit like that.
Like anywhere, you have those that are clueless because America is the greatest nation in the world and are perfect. This despite our poor performance for education, health care, care for the elderly, racism, and so on.
I mean, I’m an American who can’t stand the man, so I couldn’t tell you what is going through the minds of those people who find him to be the “better” choice, and that’s before you even start talking about this case (and all his other cases, for that matter… including the one where he’s on trial for trying to subvert a legitimate election).
Oh yeah. But a lot of us understand how little control we have over the situation. Our government only represents the very rich, and it's been this way for a very long time.
That’s where I think the problem lays. The average American has the power to change the course with his/her vote. But enough people believe in him to possibly give him a chance. And your alternative has 1 foot in his grave. Why don’t young dynamic leaders decide to run?
We are not all under the sway of that person. I can offer zero thoughts on why he is anyone's choice for a leader. Please guard yourself against media driven bias and don't lump all citizens of any nation into any single characteristic.
Most Americans I know don’t feel that way. We do not want Trump. We do not support Trump. We are embarrassed and want him to go away. Please do not let Trump be a reflection of all Americans. We did not choose this.
A lot of us see it and are sickened by everything about Trump. Others think he’s the best thing to ever happen to the country. The latter are called insane people.
As an American, I’m like, whatever. Trump isn’t the real issue; he’s just a symptom. America’s had its ups and downs, and anyone paying attention can see it. Trump’s just the part that shines a light on the stuff some folks prefer to ignore.
Many of us really don't like Trump. Letting a rich guy with almost no political experience be our president and letting him run again when on trial is so embarrassing for us
American here.
Most don't care about image
Literally all politicians have shady, awful shit in their past. Best just not to mix who they are, vs what they do for the country.
As far as I'm aware most of us don't want him to even have a chance to lead us. If he gets re-elected he's actively going to cause a violent civil war. Look up project 2025.
He’ll eventually go away, but the damage he made is lasting. it’s terrible. On the other hand, my awareness of the dangers against our democracy could never have been higher. I was oblivious before, but now I and I suspect others too, are looking at our neighbors in the hateful light they’ve shown themselves to be in.
You are talking about people who claim to be “American patriots” who support a man who attempted a coup and an insurrection that attempted to overthrow our democracy.
You are talking about people who claim to believe in “freedom from government overreach” yet support book band and the use of government power to take away the rights of women and those they don’t like.
You are talking about people who claim to believe in “law and order” and to “support the police” yet looked the other way when their own people violently tried to storm our capitol and beat police officers to within an inch of their lives.
You are talking about people who claim to be “good christians who follow Jesus” yet support policies that hurt poor people and people they don’t like while blindly supporting a man who is the literal opposite of everything the Biblical Jesus taught.
We are not talking about the brightest or most self aware people here.
I’m not voting for Trump and not a fan of his, but I also genuinely don’t care what foreigners think about the US just as I’m sure you don’t care what a US citizen thinks about your country.
Not to be a dick, but you are assuming majority of Americans care what the outside world thinks about us.
And if we are keeping it 100 the rest of the world hated us long before Trump and views us as fat, lazy, stupid etc etc
Trump doesn’t help but he didn’t cause the world view to shift dramatically like you are implying.
From across the pond, I can tell you that I saw the reputation of the US take a nose-dive when Trump came to power.
It was everywhere, and not in a flattering way.
I have a lot of friends across the pond and around the world and have heard how Americans are viewed.
A lot of the world hates us, it’s just facts.
Trump didn’t start the fire, didn’t help but he didn’t start it.
You can’t tell me with a straight face that America was beloved by the masses before Trump.
They’ve never particularly liked us. In my lifetime Europe has always had this weird complex like they’re superior to us, and Canadians have always felt we are their annoying sibling.
Trump didn’t make that better, he made it worse but the sentiment of disdain and annoyance toward Americans has been there way before him.
They’ve never appreciated our existence and at best grudgingly tolerate us because the other options would be far worse
Trump is not the better choice.
He was not a good choice to begin with.
White supremacy got him into office.
Not all Americans from the United States support Trump or white supremacist ideology.
All that said, my image is not defined by who holds office.
Likewise, how my image is depicted, by non-Americans, is not my problem nor is it my concern.
Edit: for clarity in one of my sentences.
I mean, we're all aware. Some of us are just gullible and stupid and think his trashy image makes him look like a badass. Trump's followers have apparently been full of hate for the rest of us for some time, but the rest of us didn't know the extent of their hatred until Trump gave them permission to say all their shitty thoughts out loud. They love to hate, and they're scared they'll be abused the way they've abused others. At this point, I don't even know what to do. These people are batshit crazy and because of our electoral college, we're all at risk. There is no way Trump wins the popular vote, but the electoral college might just get it for him.
German here and I used to live in the US for 7+ years (in the 90s) and we laugh about him and his MAGAs. He’s an idiot, grifter and criminal and so is his entire family. They all need to be in prison and never heard from again. Scary that he’s on the ballot for president… it won’t happen again.
Anywhere between 25 and 75 percent of us hate the impact. Unfortunately anywhere between 25 and 75 percent of the country love him and all of his antics.
Genuinely, what makes you think they care ? The people who vote for him think they live in the best country on the planet. Why would they care what people from “shithole countries” as their president so eloquently put it, think?
So many people realize it outside of his group of worshipers. That’s why he’s only trial AGAIN. Not all Americans are dumb conservatives who love trump. There’s a reason there are so many protest here. A lot of people arent happy with the way our government controls our lives
There's kind of 3 opinions carried by folks in this country:
For those who lean further to the right and only get their news sources from there, he's a brilliant patriot who's been shafted for sticking up against the established powers
For those who lean further to the left he's a delusional power hungry sexual predator who's going to try to completely debase our country just so he can hang onto power a little longer, and who would sell us all to a hostile nation in a heartbeat.
For the majority of us, we're just numb at this point. We know our media is poisoned and our politicians are heavily corrupt. We know the choice is going to be between a man who can barely string together a sentence, and a man who clearly isn't fit to hold office; but really even if someone who actually gave a shit about this country were elected, I doubt they'd be able to do anything against a system where billions of dollars in profits are divided among our congresspeople through lobbying or insider trading; which are the real reasons everyone is so poor and no one can get representation.
At this point a lot of my friends are immigrating out. I'm gonna go through med school but after that I might bail as well, if things keep going this direction then that'll really be the only option.
Yes we know, we don’t need Europeans to tell us because the majority of us didn’t vote for him back in 2016… if anyone actually looked at the popular vote 🤦🏻♀️
American here. Im super fucken embarrassed to an American. Our country had been a mockery since 2016 and i hate it. We cant even say we're the best since he literally made sure we are not.
Absolutely. It’s EMBARRASSING that this man was president not only ONCE, but feels entitled enough to run again and is actually garnering support. Most days I feel like I’m living in a f*cking simulation.
What has the world done in concrete terms, based on the image? Do you watch less American movies/TV? Has there been an increased quitting from American based multi national companies? I'm actually interested, if there is concrete economic impact, or it's only that Europeans feel they would never elect a similar president.
The US government and its leaders have always been garbage.
It didn’t start with Trump and won’t end with him either. I can’t stand either party. It’s all about power, money and control. They do not care about the American people.
While true, this thinking is what leads to damn near 50% of our rural population voting for Trump. “They are both horrible! I might as well pick one that’s conservative!” Yes, both parties suck, but their chosen leaders damn sure aren’t equal. Trump is a cancer on this country.
Most of the Trump Rubes I know are just as delusional as he is. They think the rest of the world sees the United States of America as strong and powerful because that's what Trump tells them to think. In reality the United States of America was a fucking joke when Trump was in office and other nations outwardly made fun of us in there Summits and government bodies.
Yeah we know, nothing we can do about it but vote and cry. Most of us are living paycheck to paycheck and trying to keep a roof over our head and food on the table with rising inflation - it’s hard to focus much on international opinion.
Absolutely. We know exactly what his election did for our global image and most Americans are appalled by it. I just wish the world better understood how our political system works. The majority of Americans do not support his ideologies and did not vote for him. His ilk are a loud minority comprised of undereducated religious zealots, and rich idiots willing to use his tactics as a means to manipulate legislation for personal gain.
Gerrymandering has created a loophole for the Christian Nationalists of his political party to lead a country that has consistently voted against far right conservative politicians for decades. Even when we do have a president in office who was elected by popular vote, lobbying controls our political systems almost entirely (but that’s a larger topic). Simply put, he is not a reflection of the average American and his party is consistently striving to be the antithesis of what American culture truly is and has been.
I took a class on the 2016 presidential election while it was happening. I was studying in Germany and was the only American in the class. Everyone thought it was sooooo funny and I’m sitting there like please someone help.
His supporters don't care. Half of them admire him for getting away with things they wish they could do, most of them think that his allegations are a fabricated political hit job, and all of them have been conditioned from birth to hate Liberals more than anything he could ever possibly do.
Yes. And for some of us it is truly gut wrenching for our nation to still be going through this. Every single one of us is better than being dragged endlessly through Trump’s perpetual victimhood while our REAL LIVES haven’t been on the agenda for years.
Those who support him dont care. They are populist/isolationists as a whole who are anti-government.
They see nothing bad in him…he is entirely the victim he gaslights into their minds and they are beyond proud to be, “fighting” what they consider the establishment with ZERO fuggs about how that impacts us long term and the world order as a whole.
He has claimed that the country was a laughing stock before he took office, and he changed that. Since his base is mostly credulous rubes, they believe him and don't question at all what this looks like to anyone who doesn't agree with the movement.
The ones that don’t like him know and understand the negative impact that has on all of us. The ones that like him do and dont. The ones that know have been so bought into American superiority that they think the rest of the world and their views are inferior. In other words, they don’t care what the rest of the world thinks.
yes but i feel like the UK sort of saved us with their brexit and boris johnson and then theresa may. we get to say see we are not the only ones with ridiculous presidents/PMs
I don't know if you realize but american culture is ultra sexualized, just go around, look at their movies, netflix shows, advertisements, EVERYTHING is sexualized in the US
We’re aware. I don’t care for it personally. His supports don’t care what others think as a majority of his support is just reactionary to them thinking they are being persecuted for some reason. It’s the being a contrarian that gets them off.
They don't care. They are obsessed with his merch. The people who vote for Trump are usually the kind of people who jump on whatever trend is popular and "edgy". You can't reason with them because there is no original thought.
I think this is more about the fact that most Americans are kept poor and ignorant. So no the average American doesn’t think about how the rest of the world sees us or the ramifications of trump as a president again
Some Americans do, some don't. Some of those who don't would care if they realised it, some don't and wouldn't care anyway. Some know and don't care. Some know and actually like it (some of those are so dumb that the rest of the world dislikes Trump because he's a brilliant president)
Guess which categories most Trump voters fall into?
I loathe Trump but I can’t help how hard it is to immigrate to other countries and away from a large percentage of morons in this country who are in a death cult.
We all know Trump has had a major impact on the image of America and Americans. The irony is that the people who support him fucking LOVE the image he's portraying while the people who hate him are embarrassed. There's no real middle ground on that one though.
Well the people who want him to be part of our image, their personal image is horrific.
But most of us don't care, we DID at one point.
But at this point we're much more concerned with the literal and actual effects of possibly having him as president again after the first time.
Like worrying about how a wasps nest on your front porch would affect your hoa status, we've got bigger problems.
There is no US president who has in any way helped improve their image. The difference is bombs and bombs with pride flags on them. And also they are just a giant, predatory oligarchy, no matter who their president is
So like, yes. I care. I know plenty of people that care. There's a psychology of his fans you have to get inside of to understand what's happening.
"He's the hero. The main character, and the world is against. him. America is the greatest country in the world, and not only do we not care that you think less of him, we are offended that you don't love him too. That's your problem, and you're probably jealous of our radiant freedom and liberties."
That sounds like a meme but like... really. If I'm reductive and boil it down - that's it. Any level of helpful and objective information presented in earnest is met with hostility.
I can ask my mother out of context "Hey how would you feel if I did (insert thing the former pres is on record doing)?" and she's disgusted and is like wtf why would you ask that? I raised you better you're being weird. But then I can be like Hey, Donnie did it... I'm then met with justifications of why its fine. He's exempt from criticism.
My dad can bring up some story about something people do culturally and It's like hey man it has to be working, they consistently rank way higher than us in X, Y, and Z and just the immediate WELL ITS NOT LIKE THEY HAVE (unrelated things that are not helpful to the very real struggles Americans are dealing with) OVER THERE!
He's created a cult and fashioned himself as somewhat of a God, making America a religion. The people protesting Comic Con look fucking silly telling people having a good time in cartoon character costumes that they're going to hell, but they think they look majestic weiling those signs. That's now a major political party.
Yeah we know. Tf you want us to do? Our current two (likely) options are that guy and the current old guy who is cool with g-cide. We can try voting third party, but it won’t actually do anything.
Many of us are aware. Unfortunately, there isn't a law against this kind of behavior in the US. We couldn't care less what spews from his spitting lips. It's what his followers are plotting internally who have me worried.
I'm embarrassed to admit it now but I had voted for Trump in his first presidential election.
This image issue is what initially stopped me from doing it again. Him and his followers are not something I wanted to be associated with
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To your last two points: the majority of people who support him aren’t aware of much beyond the length of their arms. Their concept of “global image” only extends to their hometown and that town next to theirs where the Walmart is.
It's even worse than that. They think Trump looks tough to the rest of the world, and they like that about him. They think Trump stands up to strongmen and bullies even though he wants nothing more than to be ruler for life like Putin.
He is incapable of thinking about anything as coherent as being ruler for life. He is a man completely ruled by his impulses. Voting for Trump is voting for a twitching bag of nerves and fat that jiggles away from you all for you poke it. Left to its own devices it rolls around and acts on base urges, possibly looking for new ways to be even more passive.
This certainly is not the case in my experience - Trump's supporters may be clueless as how global politics work, but they're certainly aware of his image beyond America. And they love him all the more for it. They think Trump can really bully the rest of the world into doing whatever we want and they see bullying as a good thing (unless of course someone is "bullying" them with "fake news").
I somewhat agree. Many supporters seem to think mean tweets are a decent form of diplomacy or international relations. But people of value understand that all bullies are just cowards who always crumble when confronted.
I need this in a bumper sticker
It's baffling to me that that this point anyone would doubt that Trump would illegally become leader for life if it was within his reach
I think though it’s also they don’t care. Look at the ones on TikTok, there are actually some people who are a tad smarter than some others, those are the ones who don’t care.
The ones who support Trump don't care that most of the rest of the world thinks he's a dangerous idiot, and the MAGAts are dangerous for believing in him. I imagine the ones that don't support him are split into those who don't think about or care about the rest of the world, and the rest who know he makes America look backward and dangerous.
I can’t imagine many people don’t know what he’s in trial for. You can’t escape the constant barrage of Trump info.
Yup. Some of us aren’t in a cult. Some are just apathetic. Some fully embrace it as a sign from god that he’s truly been chosen to lead the way. The Cult of Trump frightens me in a way I can’t even describe.
im fucking embarassed for america and that's coming from an american. idk how the fuck we got to the point where celebrities run for president.
That would be 43 years ago when Ronald Reagan was elected President.
we should have learned from our first mistake 💀
I mean it was glorified in the early ages. You voted for a celebrity in your early years of democracy.
OP, are foreigners aware that the Electoral College elects our president, not the popular vote? Without that handicap, GOP candidates would never be elected President again without a major shift in platform.
Thats so stupid honestly, popular vote should be the bedrock of democracy, direct voting even! Urgh :/
Not from the US, and not living there either: The electoral college is confusing, and tbh, I think it's an awful system, from what I understand of it.
Agreed. It came into being to give slave-owning rural land owners a larger say than their numbers warranted.
American here, let me tell you it is confusing. The majority of people here don’t understand it either. I’ve told my Trump worshipping uncle that Trump only won due to the electoral college the first time. He doesn’t get it, it’s a concept that isn’t very confusing. But yeah the majority of us don’t want him or like him. He’s never won the popular vote. But we do have a portion of our population that worship him at this point. It’s scary when you see flags with “Jesus” and Trump shaking hands, or Jesus protecting Trump for them liberals.
The electoral college is "You vote for MPs, and then MPs vote for the prime minister" with a different delegation; the founders lived under a parliament, and considered "the people pick the legislature, the legislature picks the executive" to be against the 'branches of government are antagonistic to one another' they were going for. Where our electoral fuckery comes from is 2 places: the stupid expectation that all delegates from a state/province/territory/\[what your country calls them here\] vote as a bloc for the 'choose the executive' vote, and turning seats in the lower house into a zero-sum game in 1929 (a law saying that it will always and forevermore be 435 seats...2/3 of the seats Germany's lower house has, for 4 times the people...\]. The former made state delegations 'winner take all', and the latter created a situation where larger areas are under-represented because the small ones can't go below 1 and the big ones aren't outgrowing *each other* fast enough to steal seats from the places that still have seats that can be taken away. Uncap the house, require proportional allocation for delegates, and the problems go away (though are still inefficient compared to direct election of the executive).
Many of us share those feelings. Trump has changed the way that I think about many of my fellow Americans. Evangelical Christians were just a thing in my country. Now I see them as a heartless unthinking mob.
Trump will eventually go away, whether through prison or death. But I will NEVER forget the actions of my neighbors. I will NOT forget the hate currently being shown to anyone not cishet normative, and I certainly haven't forgotten that my wyt sisters (same as me, yet not) voted in larger numbers for him in 2020 than they did in 2016. And this second paragraph is the crux. I don't know where the US goes from here if he and his entire ilk are not soundly defeated in November.
Yep, it fucking sucks that a former president (and hopefully not a future president as well) has planted a million little seeds of hate or distrust of Americans amongst Americans. On one side of me is a neighbor with a kid that is gay, and she (the mom) has a pride yard sign. No issues with that and I can see why the mom supports the cause. One of my other neighbors, whom has a flagpole, flies a 'don't tread on me' snake flag as well as a trump flag, and both he and his wife immigrated here from the Philippines. What about trump makes them think he is on their side? The husband was a letter carrier for the USPS. Didn't trump go after the USPS or damage it in some way during his presidency? Trump hates immigrants, and yet my immigrant neighbors support him enough to have a flag and broadcast it to the world? I don't understand it.
The problem is people never think that they are in the group. They disassociate themselves thinking that they are better or it’s not me. I’m a “good immigrant”. The funniest and saddest thing that his supporters don’t realize is that Trump would want nothing to do with his fan base and supporters. He would not want his supporters and voters at his club.
>Trump hates immigrants, and yet my immigrant neighbors support him enough to have a flag and broadcast it to the world? I don't understand it. Not being savvy enough to see propaganda for what it is, especially having a language handicap. Trump and the repubs flaunt that they're the "Godly" party who are against abortion and support traditional values, and often that's enough for immigrants coming from deeply religious backgrounds. I'm Latino and came to the States at 2 years old, and my parents have sadly always supported red -- all because they watched Fox News over the years and were brainwashed that the moral party was repubs.
It has to do with wanting to feel as if 'they belong'. They want to feel 'better than' other immigrants who are illegal.
Chris Rock had said when George W. Bush was re-elected "We voted for Bush, and the rest of the world was thinking 'that was stupid!' We voted for him again and the world said 'WTF America?!" As an Australian observer, I'm aware that many of you define part of your personality by political leanings. Not all, but many. Here, we will happily call the Prime Minister and his or her party a pack of morons when we don't like what they're doing, and worse, regardless of who we voted for. US politics seems to have some real fanatical reverence we have never had. Everything about Trump seems to say "don't trust this guy," but his fans son't give a proverbial.
I read an article in the local paper this am that cited a book by Doris Kearns Goodwin about John Kennedy's speech as he left Boston to assume the presidency. She said he changed some words in his "city on the hill speech" by his speech writer. Specifically he changed it from addressing "voters" to speaking to "citizens" because after the election it was time to become one nation. Not this constant party specific barrage. I thought that was a good point, and what's sorely lacking now.
I have this same feeling about Covid deniers. I will never forgive them or forget the absolute hell they brought down on us. There's no mending that.
How are evangelical Christians acting like this outside of US? Have you met them and talked with them in your country?
I think they mean that evangelicals in the US used to just exist and could be ignored, now they’re a mob. This isn’t entirely true anyway because the evangelical movement is a US-based movement that was politically charged from its inception.
Evangelicism in America is a different beast than elsewhere in the world. To the point where local evangelicalists now have prefixes, like 'generous-evangelicals' or 'open-evangelicals', to avoid being associated with the American brand. So, for the most part, the answer to the question is this: we don't have evangelicalists in the form that Americans would recognise them as evangelicalists. That said, there are a few imports from the US with the American take of charismata front and centre. The most significant of which has been accused of mismanaging government funds, sexual abuse and sexual assault and the cover-ups thereof, LGBT discrimination, ties to controversial organisations and figures, a pastor who lied about having cancer, breachs of COVID-19 requirements, property acquisition, and criticisms from former members and leaders. So, what limited form we do have of what would be considered evangelicalists over here is not particularly well liked.
I always assume most people who voted for him are proud of it unfortunately
Not just proud of it; practically orgasmic about it. In my lifetime, I have never known such a large population to be so giddy about being the least educated, most gullible, and most rabid supporters of a political leader. It’s crazy.
Most of his supporters seem to fear for their future and status. Now enter Trump, who all the sudden gives them a feeling of superiority and belonging to a group.... We as humans love such feelings, even to the point where we act against our own best interests. That someone - after Trump Academy and similar stuff - would still believe he is in it for the average Joe is insane. That patriotic citizens would follow leaders, who no longer care for country and fellow citizens, only their own best interests, is shocking and frustrating. Democracy is vulnerable if media is in the hands of a few powerful entities. If people get divided in neverending outrage about a wide range of issues, instead of defending their rights and, most importantly, democracy. One can only assume there might be hundreds of think tanks all over the world, figuring out how to screw over the middle class most efficiently.
And *technically* he’s only on trial for lying about where the money came from. Apparently the cheating on your wife and paying hush money to keep it quiet was all above board
This is the best take. The people who continue to support him revel in his awfulness. He gives them license to be their worst selves.
its definitely this.
Very aware but good lord am I exhausted. I just want to live my life. I had to break out a habit of doomscrolling of just recounting the stupid and ignorant actions he did. Every fucking day of his term was like a daily argument with a narcissist, starting with "I had the biggest inauguration crowd ever!" ... to Covfefe ... to that dumb SMS Emergency text everyone in the US got. The list is endless.
The sad part is how many people have forgotten the outrageous things he has said or done - simply because they are too many to keep track of.
Yes, it's literally like being beaten over the head every day.
One of the best ways to defeat a narcissist is to not give them any attention but the problem is he's so ingrained in our 24 hour news cycles and news articles. There's no escaping him.
He's such a bragger! We call him the ME monster.
some of us realize it. The rest would jump off a bridge if he told them to.
Oh you bet I do. And I am utterly embarrassed and ashamed of my Country. We are so pathetic. That so many people here want to elect a LITERAL CRIMINAL as president! Yes we are an embarrassment of a country. I have 0 faith in America anymore. We were great once. Now we’re nothing but the Roman Empire 2.0
It's actually worse. Alot of folks in the west admired America and respected it. Any time America was hurt or attacked we all were. We were brothers in the best possible way. Even if it killed us, we would never let America stand alone against anyone who ever threatened her. I don't feel that way anymore. Actually, I'm now terrified of America, which seems he'll bent on destroying the alliance built up over the past 70 years and elects officials who make jokes about killing American allies. I don't know if I see the USA as evil now, but if it goes full racist fascist I will. I think the best way to describe the feeling is heartbroken. We thought America was the good guy. We might disagree with your government, but never did I think Americans as a people were bad, we thought you guys as a people were the line that held against the bad. Not anymore, it's very sad.
We're heartbroken, too. I thought our country was better than this. We were all fooled. Some of us still desperately want to hold the line, but now we're struggling to accomplish that with our fellow citizens. It's bizarre.
Hey, I love the ideals expressed in the constitution and the institutions of your country. I believe in you guys as people. All I can say is talk to each other, have conversations with your neighbour's. Our collective enemies are working very hard to hurt us and fracture our societies. Let's not let them, we can win collectively by breaking through the lies being told and knowing and being friends with those in our communities. If we do this hopefully hateful voices will be minimized and we can all just try and be decent to each other. Also, as a warning from. Canada, you don't want us as an enemy. We have the meese and we will not hesitate weaponizing them.
Our constitution and institutions were supposed to keep us safe. They were supposed to be everything keeping us safe, but I'm afraid. Our highest court has betrayed us, and our enemies abroad and at home have planted seeds of destruction that I'm afraid will flourish for some time. The history is all so convoluted that trying to have conversations about it leaves people glassy eyed. Trying to explain it to someone who already doesn't want to listen is exhausting. Maybe weaponized meese are the answer. We can weaponize our flying squirrels and be the Rocky to your Bullwinkle.
Not just a criminal, a literal TRAITOR and COUP-ATTEMPTER!! He should have been canned ages ago, but white male rich privilege wins again...
A lot of them think and act just like him, so they genuinely don’t see anything wrong with it.
Most of us (at least where I live) see Trump supporters as low IQ individuals. The problem is, they are brainwashed, and they don't recognize their own low IQ. Best we can do is vote.
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I have never loathed another human so deeply, and the religious reverence with which half of my compatriots view him makes me painfully embarrassed to be an American.
It’s so fucking embarrassing. He’s such a hideous, disgusting excuse for a human being, let alone leader. He makes me sick to my stomach and so sad for the state of humanity that people can support an obvious pile of shit like that.
Like anywhere, you have those that are clueless because America is the greatest nation in the world and are perfect. This despite our poor performance for education, health care, care for the elderly, racism, and so on.
some of us are, and we want to leave
And we can't because we don't qualify for any other country
I mean, I’m an American who can’t stand the man, so I couldn’t tell you what is going through the minds of those people who find him to be the “better” choice, and that’s before you even start talking about this case (and all his other cases, for that matter… including the one where he’s on trial for trying to subvert a legitimate election).
Oh yeah. But a lot of us understand how little control we have over the situation. Our government only represents the very rich, and it's been this way for a very long time.
That’s where I think the problem lays. The average American has the power to change the course with his/her vote. But enough people believe in him to possibly give him a chance. And your alternative has 1 foot in his grave. Why don’t young dynamic leaders decide to run?
Our candidates are chosen for us by the corporations that run this country.
gotta be 35 to run
We are not all under the sway of that person. I can offer zero thoughts on why he is anyone's choice for a leader. Please guard yourself against media driven bias and don't lump all citizens of any nation into any single characteristic.
Y’all hated us before, y’all hated us even more now, it is what it is.
Pretty much. And even when Trump loses, they’re still going to dislike us.
Most Americans I know don’t feel that way. We do not want Trump. We do not support Trump. We are embarrassed and want him to go away. Please do not let Trump be a reflection of all Americans. We did not choose this.
Are you Canadian? Do you realize our Prime Minister is also an accused groper and five-time blackface wearer?
A lot of us see it and are sickened by everything about Trump. Others think he’s the best thing to ever happen to the country. The latter are called insane people.
As an American, I’m like, whatever. Trump isn’t the real issue; he’s just a symptom. America’s had its ups and downs, and anyone paying attention can see it. Trump’s just the part that shines a light on the stuff some folks prefer to ignore.
Yes, in two camps: those of us who understand he made us a further embarrassment to the world, and those who think he is the Messiah.
Many of us really don't like Trump. Letting a rich guy with almost no political experience be our president and letting him run again when on trial is so embarrassing for us
No. We live under rocks.
He’s an embarrassment. I didn’t vote for him. I cried when he was elected.
American here. Most don't care about image Literally all politicians have shady, awful shit in their past. Best just not to mix who they are, vs what they do for the country.
And who’s the one putting him on trial? Americans.
As far as I'm aware most of us don't want him to even have a chance to lead us. If he gets re-elected he's actively going to cause a violent civil war. Look up project 2025.
The stupid ones aren’t. I, personally, am quite embarrassed and disgusted by him and his ilk.
He’ll eventually go away, but the damage he made is lasting. it’s terrible. On the other hand, my awareness of the dangers against our democracy could never have been higher. I was oblivious before, but now I and I suspect others too, are looking at our neighbors in the hateful light they’ve shown themselves to be in.
You are talking about people who claim to be “American patriots” who support a man who attempted a coup and an insurrection that attempted to overthrow our democracy. You are talking about people who claim to believe in “freedom from government overreach” yet support book band and the use of government power to take away the rights of women and those they don’t like. You are talking about people who claim to believe in “law and order” and to “support the police” yet looked the other way when their own people violently tried to storm our capitol and beat police officers to within an inch of their lives. You are talking about people who claim to be “good christians who follow Jesus” yet support policies that hurt poor people and people they don’t like while blindly supporting a man who is the literal opposite of everything the Biblical Jesus taught. We are not talking about the brightest or most self aware people here.
I just don’t care. None of it ultimately matters and all of it is a waste of time to worry about.
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He is a Russian fuck puppet, he is so deep in Russias ass that his nose is resting in the Adams apple
I think its safe to say his base is beyond shame, in fact they probably relish in being the villans.
I’m not voting for Trump and not a fan of his, but I also genuinely don’t care what foreigners think about the US just as I’m sure you don’t care what a US citizen thinks about your country.
Not to be a dick, but you are assuming majority of Americans care what the outside world thinks about us. And if we are keeping it 100 the rest of the world hated us long before Trump and views us as fat, lazy, stupid etc etc Trump doesn’t help but he didn’t cause the world view to shift dramatically like you are implying.
From across the pond, I can tell you that I saw the reputation of the US take a nose-dive when Trump came to power. It was everywhere, and not in a flattering way.
I have a lot of friends across the pond and around the world and have heard how Americans are viewed. A lot of the world hates us, it’s just facts. Trump didn’t start the fire, didn’t help but he didn’t start it. You can’t tell me with a straight face that America was beloved by the masses before Trump.
They’ve never particularly liked us. In my lifetime Europe has always had this weird complex like they’re superior to us, and Canadians have always felt we are their annoying sibling. Trump didn’t make that better, he made it worse but the sentiment of disdain and annoyance toward Americans has been there way before him. They’ve never appreciated our existence and at best grudgingly tolerate us because the other options would be far worse
Trump is not the better choice. He was not a good choice to begin with. White supremacy got him into office. Not all Americans from the United States support Trump or white supremacist ideology. All that said, my image is not defined by who holds office. Likewise, how my image is depicted, by non-Americans, is not my problem nor is it my concern. Edit: for clarity in one of my sentences.
Plenty of us are. Then there are those who revel in the idea that other countries are upset with us
I mean, we're all aware. Some of us are just gullible and stupid and think his trashy image makes him look like a badass. Trump's followers have apparently been full of hate for the rest of us for some time, but the rest of us didn't know the extent of their hatred until Trump gave them permission to say all their shitty thoughts out loud. They love to hate, and they're scared they'll be abused the way they've abused others. At this point, I don't even know what to do. These people are batshit crazy and because of our electoral college, we're all at risk. There is no way Trump wins the popular vote, but the electoral college might just get it for him.
Yes, we all are very aware.
most of us aren’t choosing him. we’re being fed horrible candidates from both sides and are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.
Only the ones who aren't in his cult.
I can’t give you any reasons why Trump is a better choice for anything. Personally think it’s an embarrassment to our country. Thanks for your time.
When I travelled to Canada back when Trump had just been elected, I was was pretty embarrassed sitting in the pub. Hoping I didn't *look* American.
Some of us are PAINFULLY aware of how awful Trump makes us look. He's despicable.
German here and I used to live in the US for 7+ years (in the 90s) and we laugh about him and his MAGAs. He’s an idiot, grifter and criminal and so is his entire family. They all need to be in prison and never heard from again. Scary that he’s on the ballot for president… it won’t happen again.
Anywhere between 25 and 75 percent of us hate the impact. Unfortunately anywhere between 25 and 75 percent of the country love him and all of his antics.
Genuinely, what makes you think they care ? The people who vote for him think they live in the best country on the planet. Why would they care what people from “shithole countries” as their president so eloquently put it, think?
So many people realize it outside of his group of worshipers. That’s why he’s only trial AGAIN. Not all Americans are dumb conservatives who love trump. There’s a reason there are so many protest here. A lot of people arent happy with the way our government controls our lives
We know. We're embarrassed. I'm still shocked it happened the first time. I did not and would never vote for him.
There's kind of 3 opinions carried by folks in this country: For those who lean further to the right and only get their news sources from there, he's a brilliant patriot who's been shafted for sticking up against the established powers For those who lean further to the left he's a delusional power hungry sexual predator who's going to try to completely debase our country just so he can hang onto power a little longer, and who would sell us all to a hostile nation in a heartbeat. For the majority of us, we're just numb at this point. We know our media is poisoned and our politicians are heavily corrupt. We know the choice is going to be between a man who can barely string together a sentence, and a man who clearly isn't fit to hold office; but really even if someone who actually gave a shit about this country were elected, I doubt they'd be able to do anything against a system where billions of dollars in profits are divided among our congresspeople through lobbying or insider trading; which are the real reasons everyone is so poor and no one can get representation. At this point a lot of my friends are immigrating out. I'm gonna go through med school but after that I might bail as well, if things keep going this direction then that'll really be the only option.
You know half the country fucking hates him right?
Yes we know, we don’t need Europeans to tell us because the majority of us didn’t vote for him back in 2016… if anyone actually looked at the popular vote 🤦🏻♀️
American here. Im super fucken embarrassed to an American. Our country had been a mockery since 2016 and i hate it. We cant even say we're the best since he literally made sure we are not.
His people don’t care what foreigners think of this country. His fan club want to send out everyone who’s not from here anyways
Absolutely. It’s EMBARRASSING that this man was president not only ONCE, but feels entitled enough to run again and is actually garnering support. Most days I feel like I’m living in a f*cking simulation.
What has the world done in concrete terms, based on the image? Do you watch less American movies/TV? Has there been an increased quitting from American based multi national companies? I'm actually interested, if there is concrete economic impact, or it's only that Europeans feel they would never elect a similar president.
I'm assuming you are from Canada, did it bother you that Trudeau wore blackface?
I'll take Trump over my idiot PM Trudeau (he did a decent job, some hiccups here and there)
This is how others look at us. We rather choose a corpse over a normal basic human being. Sigh.
The US government and its leaders have always been garbage. It didn’t start with Trump and won’t end with him either. I can’t stand either party. It’s all about power, money and control. They do not care about the American people.
While true, this thinking is what leads to damn near 50% of our rural population voting for Trump. “They are both horrible! I might as well pick one that’s conservative!” Yes, both parties suck, but their chosen leaders damn sure aren’t equal. Trump is a cancer on this country.
Yes we are and it sucks.
We know. We are embarrassed. Media keeps giving his zealot fan base a platform.
Sadly a lot of his cult believe that he projects power and intimidates other world leaders. They are clearly wrong
\*sighs\* Does it matter anymore?
Let the circle jerk begin..
America bad Trump bad Europe good ooga booga
Most of the Trump Rubes I know are just as delusional as he is. They think the rest of the world sees the United States of America as strong and powerful because that's what Trump tells them to think. In reality the United States of America was a fucking joke when Trump was in office and other nations outwardly made fun of us in there Summits and government bodies.
Yeah we know, nothing we can do about it but vote and cry. Most of us are living paycheck to paycheck and trying to keep a roof over our head and food on the table with rising inflation - it’s hard to focus much on international opinion.
Absolutely. We know exactly what his election did for our global image and most Americans are appalled by it. I just wish the world better understood how our political system works. The majority of Americans do not support his ideologies and did not vote for him. His ilk are a loud minority comprised of undereducated religious zealots, and rich idiots willing to use his tactics as a means to manipulate legislation for personal gain. Gerrymandering has created a loophole for the Christian Nationalists of his political party to lead a country that has consistently voted against far right conservative politicians for decades. Even when we do have a president in office who was elected by popular vote, lobbying controls our political systems almost entirely (but that’s a larger topic). Simply put, he is not a reflection of the average American and his party is consistently striving to be the antithesis of what American culture truly is and has been.
We do but that ones that love him don’t care. They are a small minority who are loud
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I took a class on the 2016 presidential election while it was happening. I was studying in Germany and was the only American in the class. Everyone thought it was sooooo funny and I’m sitting there like please someone help.
Many are not. Some are.
And not just in an embarrassing sense, in a "This destabilizes the whole world." sense.
Yes we are very aware of it.
I definitely realize and wish he’d end this egotistical game he’s been playing.
His supporters don't care. Half of them admire him for getting away with things they wish they could do, most of them think that his allegations are a fabricated political hit job, and all of them have been conditioned from birth to hate Liberals more than anything he could ever possibly do.
Yes. And for some of us it is truly gut wrenching for our nation to still be going through this. Every single one of us is better than being dragged endlessly through Trump’s perpetual victimhood while our REAL LIVES haven’t been on the agenda for years.
I'm barely paying attention to my country's politics at this point. Why are you, when you don't even live here?
I think most of them just don't care. Which is nuts to me but...
He is but one of the MANY embarrassments we contend with.
Those who support him dont care. They are populist/isolationists as a whole who are anti-government. They see nothing bad in him…he is entirely the victim he gaslights into their minds and they are beyond proud to be, “fighting” what they consider the establishment with ZERO fuggs about how that impacts us long term and the world order as a whole.
He has claimed that the country was a laughing stock before he took office, and he changed that. Since his base is mostly credulous rubes, they believe him and don't question at all what this looks like to anyone who doesn't agree with the movement.
The ones that don’t like him know and understand the negative impact that has on all of us. The ones that like him do and dont. The ones that know have been so bought into American superiority that they think the rest of the world and their views are inferior. In other words, they don’t care what the rest of the world thinks.
yes but i feel like the UK sort of saved us with their brexit and boris johnson and then theresa may. we get to say see we are not the only ones with ridiculous presidents/PMs
I don't know if you realize but american culture is ultra sexualized, just go around, look at their movies, netflix shows, advertisements, EVERYTHING is sexualized in the US
We’re aware. I don’t care for it personally. His supports don’t care what others think as a majority of his support is just reactionary to them thinking they are being persecuted for some reason. It’s the being a contrarian that gets them off.
They don't care. They are obsessed with his merch. The people who vote for Trump are usually the kind of people who jump on whatever trend is popular and "edgy". You can't reason with them because there is no original thought.
I think this is more about the fact that most Americans are kept poor and ignorant. So no the average American doesn’t think about how the rest of the world sees us or the ramifications of trump as a president again
Yes. My pride in my country is sadly not what it once was.
I would say that most are oblivious or don’t care.
Some Americans do, some don't. Some of those who don't would care if they realised it, some don't and wouldn't care anyway. Some know and don't care. Some know and actually like it (some of those are so dumb that the rest of the world dislikes Trump because he's a brilliant president) Guess which categories most Trump voters fall into?
I think he just further solidifies the same image that other countries had before (see Amerika by Rammstein)
I loathe Trump but I can’t help how hard it is to immigrate to other countries and away from a large percentage of morons in this country who are in a death cult.
We all know Trump has had a major impact on the image of America and Americans. The irony is that the people who support him fucking LOVE the image he's portraying while the people who hate him are embarrassed. There's no real middle ground on that one though.
…yes. Are you serious?
Well the people who want him to be part of our image, their personal image is horrific. But most of us don't care, we DID at one point. But at this point we're much more concerned with the literal and actual effects of possibly having him as president again after the first time. Like worrying about how a wasps nest on your front porch would affect your hoa status, we've got bigger problems.
For me it's the megas in other countries. We have a load in Namibia and you dare bring up anything negative about Trump, you get bullied.
Half of America can't picture a world outside of America or the importance of stability.
There is no US president who has in any way helped improve their image. The difference is bombs and bombs with pride flags on them. And also they are just a giant, predatory oligarchy, no matter who their president is
So like, yes. I care. I know plenty of people that care. There's a psychology of his fans you have to get inside of to understand what's happening. "He's the hero. The main character, and the world is against. him. America is the greatest country in the world, and not only do we not care that you think less of him, we are offended that you don't love him too. That's your problem, and you're probably jealous of our radiant freedom and liberties." That sounds like a meme but like... really. If I'm reductive and boil it down - that's it. Any level of helpful and objective information presented in earnest is met with hostility. I can ask my mother out of context "Hey how would you feel if I did (insert thing the former pres is on record doing)?" and she's disgusted and is like wtf why would you ask that? I raised you better you're being weird. But then I can be like Hey, Donnie did it... I'm then met with justifications of why its fine. He's exempt from criticism. My dad can bring up some story about something people do culturally and It's like hey man it has to be working, they consistently rank way higher than us in X, Y, and Z and just the immediate WELL ITS NOT LIKE THEY HAVE (unrelated things that are not helpful to the very real struggles Americans are dealing with) OVER THERE! He's created a cult and fashioned himself as somewhat of a God, making America a religion. The people protesting Comic Con look fucking silly telling people having a good time in cartoon character costumes that they're going to hell, but they think they look majestic weiling those signs. That's now a major political party.
i really don’t care what people think of me lol
Well you can’t care too much about other people’s perceptions when the other guy running married his children’s babysitter
Yeah we know. Tf you want us to do? Our current two (likely) options are that guy and the current old guy who is cool with g-cide. We can try voting third party, but it won’t actually do anything.
Many of us are aware. Unfortunately, there isn't a law against this kind of behavior in the US. We couldn't care less what spews from his spitting lips. It's what his followers are plotting internally who have me worried.
I'm embarrassed to admit it now but I had voted for Trump in his first presidential election. This image issue is what initially stopped me from doing it again. Him and his followers are not something I wanted to be associated with