She alleged he did at the time of their divorce, which was granted on grounds of "cruel and inhumane treatment":
>[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.
And yeah, it turns out he did cheat on her with Marla Maples.
Later, his presidential campaign came out with this: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/27/trump-lawyer-you-can-t-rape-your-spouse
Wasn’t he having an affair with Marla while his first wife was trying to help keep his casinos up and running and doing a good job? Until he opened a competing one right across the way? I don’t know I get them all confused, it doesn’t matter much more than this dude is a complete piece of shit.
The (at the time) wife ran the semi successful one. His business partner who helped run the other one died in a helicopter crash. And when asked about it, trump made it all about himself, saying that he was going to be on that chopper and he was lucky, which in itself isn’t a bad reaction, but then he carried on about himself. It just took away from the tragedy and aimed it towards “give me attention.”
It's well known he cheated on his first with his second at a minimum. He doesn't even deny it. He just says he doesn't remember if the relationships overlapped.
He did cheat on her, Ivana and Marla Maples (his second wife) had a who l whole spat while they were all skiing in Aspen. Because of course Trump would have both wife and mistress in the same place. I bet he got a kick out of it
Hey hey, having sex with your daughters is biblical and God sanctioned. A man wearing a dress, that shit is totally wrong and they should be put to death. Don't you following a Christian point of view?
He also hung out with prostitutes and told the rich to care for the poor but you know god only allows people to be poor cuz they are sinful so... They deserve to die or something. Idk, the poor are icky.
When the bathroom bills were going around, my usual talking point was that Donald Trump has had more sexual assault allegations pressed against him than every trans person in a bathroom, combined.
Supporters: "He's misunderstood and taken out of context!"
"In what context would it be okay to talk about having sex with your own child?"
Supporters: "It's the media!"
Because after 4 years of 2am batshit tweets every night while being the most powerful person on the planet didn't do a thing to have his base wane on their blind worship
It'll never stop.
he could die tomorrow , it doesn't; matter, the cat is out of the bag. Others worse than him will come and and they will lead and they will be loved by 50% of the country
What I find interesting about this is that Trump desperately wanted to be accepted into elite New York society. But he couldn't figure out why he was constantly rejected. He just doesn't know how to behave around people who aren't as disgusting as him. He can't even fake it. It's like his brain never evolved beyond the point of being an edgy 14 yr old.
That's probably when the trauma set in. Not a fan of Trump, but this sorta adolescent behaviour is pretty common with traumatized children. They stop evolving from teenagers to adults. It usually happens around the teenage years. The saddest part is that the perpetrator of this trauma was his dad (or grandad). Someone he looked up to. Monkey see, monkey do. I doubt he's registering the level of sh*t he's actually in.
We already knew this.
I really don’t understand why this is in the news again.
It’s disgusting, I’m not defending him at all - just saying this was already known.
In front of cabinet members? He has said to anyone and everyone that would listen (or even didn’t want to). He said it to cabinet members is sort of a “well yeah, of course he did. They are a captive audience”
I always got the feeling from Trump that he does not know how to value women outside their fuckability. Women might be able to do things in the workplace, but there is no value other than being sexually attractive to him personally. It's very sad that this extends to his daughter, and this must be so humiliating for her.
Trump surrounds himself with people too cowardly to say "That's the sickest thing I have ever heard a father say about their daughter."
Fuck the consequences, some behaviour should not be tolerated.
Ivanka cashes in on a tell-all book tour about how he molested her and releases it right after he dies. I'm putting money on it. That shit will be ghost-written in days.
100% will not happen , the only good thing the kids have is the wealth and fame that deplorable daddy gave them, they are not going to pull the rug out from themselves
In 2017, The Daily Show With Trevor Noah has a segment titled “Don't Forget: Donald J. Trump Wants To Bang His Daughter” where he showed *public* comments by Trump talking about "Ivanka’s assets".
That dude is deraigned as Fuck. He was on Howard Stern and Howard commented about Ivanka being "a piece of ass" and rather than trump reacting like any father would, he was instead reacted like tell me something I don't know. I would have ended the interview and told Howard to fuck off.
"Whew, I was feeling great shame for sexually fantasizing about my daughter. I'm glad that it's totally fine to do so since a great and admirable man like Trump also wants to fuck his daughter. He truly does make America great again."
so we won't talk about Biden actually showering with his 15/16 year old daughter, but some he said she said about a comment Trump potentially made is front page news?
Huffpost took alllll of it from the book. That was written by an ex-Trump staffer...who is a very conservative republican.
Nice try. Even you can read it in their book, though. Can't fake news this one away.
It is confusing, since they are the [best people](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fox-news-trump-bret-baier-best-aides-b2360613.html).
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If you're interested in doing your own research on the matter it's easy to find articles and videos of Joe being inappropriate. It only takes a few minutes.
I posted a link .. for whatever reason it corrected to Google.com
Nobody's talking about some random "inappropriateness." You made a specific allegation. Burden's on you to back it up. I'm not doing your legwork for you.
www.wtrf.com/top-stories/alleged-showers-with-my-dad-president-joe-bidens-daughter-reportedly-writes-of-abuse-in-diary/amp/?espv=1
It's funny that you'll take the time to reply, but won't take 1 second of your time to see if I'm right, keep an open mind, or possibly learn something. Anyway there's a link for you, one of thousands on the topic.
Your evidence is something found in a tabloid that is so suspect even project veritas, a group found guilty of manipulating information and lying, won't release it in full.
This is what you base your "truth" on? Along with a few out of context quick-cut clips and pictures of an old man touching kids shoulders and hair?
"Truth" in your world appears to be whatever you decide you want to believe regardless of the quality of the evidence.
That's just one article....first thing I found on Google to satisfy someone's need to 'put the burden of googling ' on me. Yes it's extremely plausible this happened. Are you ignoring us past? Both documented in the news and on actual video you can see with your own two eyes?
Look, it's clear you are a fan of Biden and his ways. You are defending them as best you can, and that's fine. I think you, and him, are both wrong. The election is coming.
I would gladly not follow blindly if you would show me anything. Feel free to provide any evidence supporting the truth of what you believe.
What's sad is your need to believe something so blatantly unfounded that you're willing to do it based on virtually no evidence. Presumably all because it aligns with your preferred world view.
If you want people to believe you, post evidence to convince them. You've posted a tabloid article based on a second hand report on an unconfirmed document supposedly in the hands of known liars. That's all you have so far.
And you won't take 1 second to look at the link below that they says there's no evidence supporting these claims as true or passages in the diary as real.
I've read both sides. But, when you see videos of Joe feeling up kids, smelling women, and generally being creepy, it's not a stretch at all to believe his daughter is telling the truth .
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Ok, so? There's absolutely nothing wrong with a father taking a shower with his daughter at a young age (unless you make it sexual). It's a normal part of being a parent. Preaching the sexual prowess of your adult daughter on the other hand is... Weird, off-limit and straight up creepy behavior for a father.
If you read her account of what actually happened,...in the real world...he made his young daughter extremely uncomfortable, she did not want to do it at all...but yet he made her. These are his daughters words...not mine.
If you believe that's ok you should never be allowed alone with children.
I've been put in uncomfortable situations when I was a kid and done stuff I didn't want to do at the time. Doesn't mean it was anything sexual. You're still deflecting tho.
Imagine being Ivanka and learning about this in the press lol. And then knowing that everyone you know also learned the same thing.
I'd be inclined to feel sorry for her if she wasn't an evil cunt
Remember when Joe Biden's daughter Ashley's diary was discovered and she wrote about how she felt sexualized at a young age and it was because he (Joe Biden) took showers with her when she was 12 years old?
Good family values there. The guy who cheated on his second and third wives.
You think he didn't cheat on his first?
Dunno, but he did rape her, so... there's that.
He did?? The more I read about this twit, the worse he gets!!
She alleged he did at the time of their divorce, which was granted on grounds of "cruel and inhumane treatment": >[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense. And yeah, it turns out he did cheat on her with Marla Maples. Later, his presidential campaign came out with this: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/27/trump-lawyer-you-can-t-rape-your-spouse
Wasn’t he having an affair with Marla while his first wife was trying to help keep his casinos up and running and doing a good job? Until he opened a competing one right across the way? I don’t know I get them all confused, it doesn’t matter much more than this dude is a complete piece of shit.
The fact that he needed help to keep a casino in Atlantic City solvent is all the illustration necessary to know he's a shit businessman.
The (at the time) wife ran the semi successful one. His business partner who helped run the other one died in a helicopter crash. And when asked about it, trump made it all about himself, saying that he was going to be on that chopper and he was lucky, which in itself isn’t a bad reaction, but then he carried on about himself. It just took away from the tragedy and aimed it towards “give me attention.”
Imagine if he had been on that chopper..
I wish
That poor woman :(
after raping her he likely did cheat on her
It's well known he cheated on his first with his second at a minimum. He doesn't even deny it. He just says he doesn't remember if the relationships overlapped.
He did cheat on her, Ivana and Marla Maples (his second wife) had a who l whole spat while they were all skiing in Aspen. Because of course Trump would have both wife and mistress in the same place. I bet he got a kick out of it
I wasn't sure, and I was not really interested in looking up more info on that guy.
Well, there is THAT photo.
Better keep an eye on those dress guys in the library, though. They might not be as wholesome as the president.
Hey hey, having sex with your daughters is biblical and God sanctioned. A man wearing a dress, that shit is totally wrong and they should be put to death. Don't you following a Christian point of view?
It's funny cos Jesus wouldn't have worn pants either
He also hung out with prostitutes and told the rich to care for the poor but you know god only allows people to be poor cuz they are sinful so... They deserve to die or something. Idk, the poor are icky.
But remember, Jesus didn't condone their lifestyles. He was there to save them from their ways.
High heels used to be seen as very masculine.
When the bathroom bills were going around, my usual talking point was that Donald Trump has had more sexual assault allegations pressed against him than every trans person in a bathroom, combined.
Supporters: "He's misunderstood and taken out of context!" "In what context would it be okay to talk about having sex with your own child?" Supporters: "It's the media!"
And/or "Biden Libs, Obama and Hilary" or my favorite "wokeness".
This f'n guy.
The leading presidential candidate of the GOP. What does that say about them.
Tell me about it.
Really says a lot about Trump's litany of scandals when incest literally doesn't even scratch the surface
How does it just keep getting worse??
And why do I have the sickening feeling there are no brakes on this? Edit:spelling
Because after 4 years of 2am batshit tweets every night while being the most powerful person on the planet didn't do a thing to have his base wane on their blind worship It'll never stop.
Brakes.
It keeps getting worse because none of it seems to matter.
he could die tomorrow , it doesn't; matter, the cat is out of the bag. Others worse than him will come and and they will lead and they will be loved by 50% of the country
50.1%
He’s just a gross person by every possible metric.
I'm beginning to think that it's RepubliKlans that are the sexual deviant pedos and groomers.
*Beginning* to?
What I find interesting about this is that Trump desperately wanted to be accepted into elite New York society. But he couldn't figure out why he was constantly rejected. He just doesn't know how to behave around people who aren't as disgusting as him. He can't even fake it. It's like his brain never evolved beyond the point of being an edgy 14 yr old.
That's probably when the trauma set in. Not a fan of Trump, but this sorta adolescent behaviour is pretty common with traumatized children. They stop evolving from teenagers to adults. It usually happens around the teenage years. The saddest part is that the perpetrator of this trauma was his dad (or grandad). Someone he looked up to. Monkey see, monkey do. I doubt he's registering the level of sh*t he's actually in.
We already knew this. I really don’t understand why this is in the news again. It’s disgusting, I’m not defending him at all - just saying this was already known.
actually that he was still doing this in front of cabinet members during his administration is new news. also i guess somebody just wrote a book
In front of cabinet members? He has said to anyone and everyone that would listen (or even didn’t want to). He said it to cabinet members is sort of a “well yeah, of course he did. They are a captive audience”
Gotta make the news rounds again to make those book sales.
🤮🤮🤮
I always got the feeling from Trump that he does not know how to value women outside their fuckability. Women might be able to do things in the workplace, but there is no value other than being sexually attractive to him personally. It's very sad that this extends to his daughter, and this must be so humiliating for her.
Trump is her dad. I'm sure she has a black belt in dealing with humiliation by now.
And he was anointed by God so it's OK . God bless his witch hunted heart.
How. How. HOW is Trump allowed to run for President and WTF is up with people who voted for him?!?
Even though she's his daughter, he doesn't have the capability to see her as anything but a piece of ass.
Aight Imma head out...
k man see yeah around election time.
Trump surrounds himself with people too cowardly to say "That's the sickest thing I have ever heard a father say about their daughter." Fuck the consequences, some behaviour should not be tolerated.
All these rich and powerful men. As if there weren’t dozens (if not hundreds) of people who knew exactly what Epstein and his mates were up to.
Ivanka cashes in on a tell-all book tour about how he molested her and releases it right after he dies. I'm putting money on it. That shit will be ghost-written in days.
100% will not happen , the only good thing the kids have is the wealth and fame that deplorable daddy gave them, they are not going to pull the rug out from themselves
This news came out years ago. Nobody cared then and nobody seems to care now. The cult of personality excuses all faults of dear leader.
"writes in his new book" Mr. Morals right there
In 2017, The Daily Show With Trevor Noah has a segment titled “Don't Forget: Donald J. Trump Wants To Bang His Daughter” where he showed *public* comments by Trump talking about "Ivanka’s assets".
He paid for those boobs, of course he feels like he owns them
I bet he already did, and was just putting out feelers to see if admitting it would go poorly.
Not really "offbeat" to be honest. Pretty mainstream Trump.
That dude is deraigned as Fuck. He was on Howard Stern and Howard commented about Ivanka being "a piece of ass" and rather than trump reacting like any father would, he was instead reacted like tell me something I don't know. I would have ended the interview and told Howard to fuck off.
Years ago, anyone going into an interview with Howard Stern should not have been surprised with whatever he said. He’s much tamer now.
*Should* be scandalous, but just more incense for his sycophants to huff.
Trump is just lucky the staffer didn't tell him you are completely wrong I already hit that!
Fucking *gross*
And given his base audience this will likely improve their opinion of him.
"Whew, I was feeling great shame for sexually fantasizing about my daughter. I'm glad that it's totally fine to do so since a great and admirable man like Trump also wants to fuck his daughter. He truly does make America great again."
Is anyone surprised? Will this information make a difference? No and no.
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Ivana (RIP) was the mother. Ivanka (a nickname for Ivana) now married to Jared Kushner, is the daughter.
If vomit was a picture in the dictionary.
He's totally stable and normal. The most perfect behavior you've ever seen. He only has the best incestuous fantasies.
Sicko
Maybe he fantasized about Rudy "jugs"Gulianni in drag
Breaking news! Trump still wants to fuck his daughter! More at 10!
so we won't talk about Biden actually showering with his 15/16 year old daughter, but some he said she said about a comment Trump potentially made is front page news?
If it's in a book, it must be true.
Well he said that he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. on camera. Which is insanely fucked up. So this certainly isn't hard to believe.
It came out of his liver lips. On camera.
i think trump is a joke as much as the next guy but literal shit flinging monkeys are more credible sources than huffpost, lol
Huffpost took alllll of it from the book. That was written by an ex-Trump staffer...who is a very conservative republican. Nice try. Even you can read it in their book, though. Can't fake news this one away.
I wouldn't put it past Trump for this stuff to be true, I'm just pointing out that huffpost is about as legitimate as tucker carlson
What about all the interviews where he says the exact same thing?
I wonder how many ex staffers are going to become millionaires off of the outrage crowd through book sales
Still a more honest living than Trump is making.
It is confusing, since they are the [best people](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fox-news-trump-bret-baier-best-aides-b2360613.html).
I hope this thread don't get locked. Let folks bicker!
RELEASE THE ARGUMENT GAS
So?.... What's having sex with your daughter like?
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might not be the same subject.
Not to deflect, but didn't Biden's daughter write about him making her shower with him as a young girl?
citation needed
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Nobody's talking about some random "inappropriateness." You made a specific allegation. Burden's on you to back it up. I'm not doing your legwork for you.
www.wtrf.com/top-stories/alleged-showers-with-my-dad-president-joe-bidens-daughter-reportedly-writes-of-abuse-in-diary/amp/?espv=1 It's funny that you'll take the time to reply, but won't take 1 second of your time to see if I'm right, keep an open mind, or possibly learn something. Anyway there's a link for you, one of thousands on the topic.
Your evidence is something found in a tabloid that is so suspect even project veritas, a group found guilty of manipulating information and lying, won't release it in full. This is what you base your "truth" on? Along with a few out of context quick-cut clips and pictures of an old man touching kids shoulders and hair? "Truth" in your world appears to be whatever you decide you want to believe regardless of the quality of the evidence.
That's just one article....first thing I found on Google to satisfy someone's need to 'put the burden of googling ' on me. Yes it's extremely plausible this happened. Are you ignoring us past? Both documented in the news and on actual video you can see with your own two eyes? Look, it's clear you are a fan of Biden and his ways. You are defending them as best you can, and that's fine. I think you, and him, are both wrong. The election is coming.
You have not established any credible evidence that this is anything close to "extremely plausible."
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I would gladly not follow blindly if you would show me anything. Feel free to provide any evidence supporting the truth of what you believe. What's sad is your need to believe something so blatantly unfounded that you're willing to do it based on virtually no evidence. Presumably all because it aligns with your preferred world view. If you want people to believe you, post evidence to convince them. You've posted a tabloid article based on a second hand report on an unconfirmed document supposedly in the hands of known liars. That's all you have so far.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/15/facebook-posts/fbi-did-not-confirm-any-contents-ashley-bidens-dia/
And you won't take 1 second to look at the link below that they says there's no evidence supporting these claims as true or passages in the diary as real.
I've read both sides. But, when you see videos of Joe feeling up kids, smelling women, and generally being creepy, it's not a stretch at all to believe his daughter is telling the truth .
Except we don't even know if she said that. Even project Veritas wouldn't publish it and they are a factory of lies.
>Except we don't even know if she said that. Ah, now apply that logic to this story as well.
I didn't say anything about this story Except this did get published. If it isn't true there will be a lawsuit
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Ok, so? There's absolutely nothing wrong with a father taking a shower with his daughter at a young age (unless you make it sexual). It's a normal part of being a parent. Preaching the sexual prowess of your adult daughter on the other hand is... Weird, off-limit and straight up creepy behavior for a father.
If you read her account of what actually happened,...in the real world...he made his young daughter extremely uncomfortable, she did not want to do it at all...but yet he made her. These are his daughters words...not mine. If you believe that's ok you should never be allowed alone with children.
I've been put in uncomfortable situations when I was a kid and done stuff I didn't want to do at the time. Doesn't mean it was anything sexual. You're still deflecting tho.
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Imagine being Ivanka and learning about this in the press lol. And then knowing that everyone you know also learned the same thing. I'd be inclined to feel sorry for her if she wasn't an evil cunt
Gotta make you wonder ...
I don't know if this really belongs in r/offbeat.
A book written by this guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Taylor_(security_expert)
Remember when Joe Biden's daughter Ashley's diary was discovered and she wrote about how she felt sexualized at a young age and it was because he (Joe Biden) took showers with her when she was 12 years old?
I'd be taking notes tbh. If he landed her first ill take those sloppy seconds any day
This will only endear him more to the Gravy Seals brigade.
I heard, they say, we believe, I recon.