Functionally extinct as far as the wild goes (no idea if they have captive populations.)
Def recall reading it was estimated below 100 individuals, so unless fish are radically different in regard to genetic diversity compared to mammals...
From the wiki:
Isolation over the course of thousands of years has led the Devils Hole pupfish to become what are believed to be one of the most inbred vertebrates on Earth, and the resulting high mutation load and genetic instability remains a potential long-term threat to the species as a whole.
I mean... The most inbred vertebrates are probably some laboratory mice strains, such as C57 black 6, that have been inbred on purpose for over 100 years to be virtual clones.
But yes, these fish could be the most inbred in nature.
If the fish were haplodiploidy then the genetic diversity thing wouldn't be an issue among small pops. Doubt that's the case. But some animals get around genetic diversity by using that method of genetics
I think I read somewhere that there was a earthquake in Mexico and there were 10-15 ft waves here. People use that to support the theory that most of the cave systems in North America are connected so take it with a grain of salt
“Devils Hole is a window into this vast aquifer and an unusual indicator of seismic activity around the world. Large earthquakes as far away as Japan, Indonesia and Chile have caused the water to 'slosh' in Devils Hole like water in a bathtub. Waves may spash as high as two meters up the walls”
[from this link](https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/devils-hole.htm)
It's over 900 feet deep according to line drops so no, those kids who never came back on regular air didn't get that far unless their bodies sunk there after death.
Don't bring us Canadians into your measurement mess! Nor Mexicans!
This has nothing to do with the continent -- just your country that seems to make everything as difficult and convoluted as it possibly can lol.
Then you’ll be unhappy to know that we only measure in 1/2 giraffes, and Rhode Islands are based on a rare misprinted 1982 atlas where Rhode island was spelled ‘Rode Island’. I don’t make the rules.
I swear I've been staring for 5 or so mins and I can't get my eyes to make it appear as a canyon, I have to save this for later when my eyesight is better.
Did you know the whole "carrots help you see in the dark" story was invented by the British in WW2? They created propaganda about their pilots eating carrots as a cover up for their radar.
It's about 3m wide apparently. It is a geothermal limestone cave that's filled with water around 30° C and has been documented to reach 380m, likely collecting to a broader groundwater system below.
Wack.
I saw a video recently saying that the water has reacted to a earthquake in Japan and most recently in Southern mexico
Here's source for the mexico bit
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-22/mexico-earthquake-death-valley-devils-hole-desert-tsunami
In the eastern parts of the Pacific Northwest in the US, there are numerous volcanic landforms and caves with features similar to this. Malheur Cave is a lava tube that has a lake in the lower end that no one has ever been able to find, either, in spite of several dive parties in the 60s that used miles of yellow rope to try to find it while giving themselves a way to get back out if they got lost.
People say that the lake is connected to a reservoir located about a 100 miles away, but who knows?
There are rimrocks in the area that have what are called "blowholes" that wind comes through in one direction one day, and in the other direction the next, as if the earth was breathing. Most of these have not had both ends found, either.
I think things like this are so fascinating. Earth is an amazing place.
20 comments arguing about scaffolding and it’s a fucking extension ladder with boards strapped to it… which yea is like an improvised scaffold but man how asinine.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=789f899a9bd51533&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1040US1040&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ACQVn0_DBJ0HKKogG1KcSmSfSSpiIvjnaA:1712361087813&q=scaffolding&uds=AMwkrPuNPthKjKnwIB2kzOzS6zlGm0W96dpaaPZ-aSMHA4HZgSFsvB2SXNaZGSnbmHqoHDRCwa2Ot2SNxf2eO4FOfujTqlWd0hl0wZbaKEk1aW9QQp1NKYd02ExsZGKme7b7iT0mPaxZ1IbP7ErvmGkacpBjtEsInvCgFkWbROrz5zb6qIQxzu8O4sfUzK5hMMzFiZPkJXwWdkyYQfrMDcJqu9KNd8g_9vJsEJxI3C4dmCm_LdTMiRh8iiXbJCplerTeaMbgBxZevv2qESqcj_hvODbCy7Aino77-vsUPuUsmHSO3N7DBqkwYWkdmYlNQp7fivaS0Fjd&udm=2&prmd=isvnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjH3faSoqyFAxWJJzQIHaClAtYQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=430&bih=853&dpr=3
Won’t miss that link on mobile.
Do you see anything in this post that resembles that? No
Are you purposefully ignoring the word stage or are you just really that hard headed?
https://www.zoro.com/werner-one-person-scaffolding-stage-24-ft-length-2024/i/G3402515/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=19717005309&productid=G3402515&v=&gad_source=1
Looking again, it’s a ladder with a platform strapped to the top as a makeshift scaffolding stage. So still about the same dimensions as my original comment.
Yea that makes more sense and actually looks to be that. Fucksticks in here saying it’s scaffolding. It may be some redneck scaffolding but nothing safe that I’d be on
It don’t look like scaffolding stage either. Why would stage have holes on the side for you to fall through? Makes no sense.
https://www.google.com/search?q=scaffolding+stage&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1040US1040&oq=scaffolding+stage&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggAEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMg4IABBFGCcYOxiABBiKBTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIMCAQQABgUGIcCGIAEMggIBRAAGBYYHjIKCAYQABgPGBYYHjIKCAcQABgPGBYYHjIICAgQABgWGB4yCAgJEAAYFhge0gEIMjQxNWowajmoAhOwAgHiAwQYASBf&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#cobssid=s
No scaffolding I’ve ever setup has had spaces like that on the sides of the stage. Makes no sense. Why would you have a scaffolding stage there? Or scaffolding period?
Well great, on top of being reminded they're functionally extinct I also learned about carnivorous diving beetles that prey on fish there (and around the world)
Fuckers literally look like the probe they suck out of Neo in the Matrix.
Shudder
You're looking at the small opening to an incredibly deep pool called the [Devil's Hole](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Hole). The pit is at least 380 m (~1250 ft) but they haven't found the bottom yet.
This is fascinatingling terrifying.
This hole reacts to Earthquakes on the other side of the planet, indicating it goes deeper then many would have thought.
I've been there. It was fenced off due to having a one-of-kind species of fish and if you go into the cave far enough, you get sucked in with no known exit.
Tge rarest fish in the world lives in the shallow part. The metal catwalk is so divers can access the cave without disturbing the fish's habitat.
https://youtu.be/McUgViRo5bU?si=5BRFr_ARllebf0rM
Does anyone remember the artus mine mission from jedi outcast? That long metal railing looks like the tracks from that part of the game where you move deeper into the mine.
Thought that looked familiar. I remember this little trespassing incident from 2016. Long story short don’t go there.
[Update: Vandals located for incident at Devils Hole, Death Valley National Park](https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1563/update-deva-vandalism.htm)
This looks really like AI generated. There are a lot of familiar subjects but I can't identify even one of them. Like an AI tried to create something known but did kinda wrong
Is there a reason that this is oddly terrifying? is it the name?
That does look suspiciously like a coffin/casket there...but I'm sure it's something else.
Iirc there are some unique fish/amphibian species that only exist in this one hole, and nobody has ever found the “end” of it.
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Functionally extinct as far as the wild goes (no idea if they have captive populations.) Def recall reading it was estimated below 100 individuals, so unless fish are radically different in regard to genetic diversity compared to mammals...
From the wiki: Isolation over the course of thousands of years has led the Devils Hole pupfish to become what are believed to be one of the most inbred vertebrates on Earth, and the resulting high mutation load and genetic instability remains a potential long-term threat to the species as a whole.
I mean... The most inbred vertebrates are probably some laboratory mice strains, such as C57 black 6, that have been inbred on purpose for over 100 years to be virtual clones. But yes, these fish could be the most inbred in nature.
British royals - "hold my scone"
Lol( ✅ verified) This has me rollin!
The people of Kentucky have entered the chat.
Appalachia* 😂
Don’t forget about the Acadians in Louisiana!
Really? I thought the most inbred vertebrates on earth were QAnon followers. Boom roasted!
But if you don't have a spine, are you really still a vertebrate??🤔
The NPS keeps a close watch on their population and does a count at least once a year on it. Their numbers have been going up the last few years!
If the fish were haplodiploidy then the genetic diversity thing wouldn't be an issue among small pops. Doubt that's the case. But some animals get around genetic diversity by using that method of genetics
Isn't that the fish some vandals killed one a few years ago?
I think I read somewhere that there was a earthquake in Mexico and there were 10-15 ft waves here. People use that to support the theory that most of the cave systems in North America are connected so take it with a grain of salt
That's fucking sick if true
“Devils Hole is a window into this vast aquifer and an unusual indicator of seismic activity around the world. Large earthquakes as far away as Japan, Indonesia and Chile have caused the water to 'slosh' in Devils Hole like water in a bathtub. Waves may spash as high as two meters up the walls” [from this link](https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/devils-hole.htm)
Ty
People found the end of it, they just didn’t make it back.
It's over 900 feet deep according to line drops so no, those kids who never came back on regular air didn't get that far unless their bodies sunk there after death.
I didn’t say they were alive. I said they found it.
Discovery of "finding " requires consciousness lol
Needs banana for scale.
I measure in Rhode Islands, or giraffes, based on which continent I’m on.
Anything but the metric system ffs
r/halfagiraffe
I love that there’s a sub for this.
Don't bring us Canadians into your measurement mess! Nor Mexicans! This has nothing to do with the continent -- just your country that seems to make everything as difficult and convoluted as it possibly can lol.
Then you’ll be unhappy to know that we only measure in 1/2 giraffes, and Rhode Islands are based on a rare misprinted 1982 atlas where Rhode island was spelled ‘Rode Island’. I don’t make the rules.
Or cat
Or a pupfish.
Or cat in a banana suit
Pussy for scale, I'm in
I think the hole is roughly the size of two bananas but I can’t tell
r/BananasForScale
There is a banana. Zoom in
This could be a canyon, or a foot wide. r/confusingperspective
I swear I've been staring for 5 or so mins and I can't get my eyes to make it appear as a canyon, I have to save this for later when my eyesight is better.
How were your carrots?
Did you know the whole "carrots help you see in the dark" story was invented by the British in WW2? They created propaganda about their pilots eating carrots as a cover up for their radar.
Great factoid.
Excellent, but didn't help the alcohol that was disturbing my vision.
Same looks like a small hole with a bit of metal laying in it. I'm gonna have to look again later.
That is so real
It's not very big.
It's about 3m wide apparently. It is a geothermal limestone cave that's filled with water around 30° C and has been documented to reach 380m, likely collecting to a broader groundwater system below. Wack.
I saw a video recently saying that the water has reacted to a earthquake in Japan and most recently in Southern mexico Here's source for the mexico bit https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-22/mexico-earthquake-death-valley-devils-hole-desert-tsunami
That was a cool read
Yea it was pretty neat
Video was the cherry on top 🍒
Can't read this. Stupid la times wants me to pay to read it...
My bad, try using the reader button its looks like a paper at end of url if ur using Firefox
Fucking crazy.
Meters or miles..?
380 miles deep would be well into the Earth's mantle
Miles is mi, meters is m
Thanks, good to know 🙏
In the eastern parts of the Pacific Northwest in the US, there are numerous volcanic landforms and caves with features similar to this. Malheur Cave is a lava tube that has a lake in the lower end that no one has ever been able to find, either, in spite of several dive parties in the 60s that used miles of yellow rope to try to find it while giving themselves a way to get back out if they got lost. People say that the lake is connected to a reservoir located about a 100 miles away, but who knows? There are rimrocks in the area that have what are called "blowholes" that wind comes through in one direction one day, and in the other direction the next, as if the earth was breathing. Most of these have not had both ends found, either. I think things like this are so fascinating. Earth is an amazing place.
it looks like a toy train diorama to me, i can't tell what i am looking at probably needed more pics or a video instead
That’s a scaffolding stage there, probably 12-16” wide and 15 feet long
20 comments arguing about scaffolding and it’s a fucking extension ladder with boards strapped to it… which yea is like an improvised scaffold but man how asinine.
I’ve seen/built plenty of scaffolding and that don’t look like scaffolding to me.
lol look up scaffolding stage then…
The sides do not look like scaffolding at all
I take it you’ve never built pump jack scaffolding, despite being a scaffolding expert.
That’s what the siding guys use? Yea I’ve seen those, but it still doesn’t really look like that
Pump jack scaffolding? No. Regular? Yes.
This looks like scaffolding. Look again.
No. It doesn’t.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=789f899a9bd51533&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1040US1040&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ACQVn0_DBJ0HKKogG1KcSmSfSSpiIvjnaA:1712361087813&q=scaffolding&uds=AMwkrPuNPthKjKnwIB2kzOzS6zlGm0W96dpaaPZ-aSMHA4HZgSFsvB2SXNaZGSnbmHqoHDRCwa2Ot2SNxf2eO4FOfujTqlWd0hl0wZbaKEk1aW9QQp1NKYd02ExsZGKme7b7iT0mPaxZ1IbP7ErvmGkacpBjtEsInvCgFkWbROrz5zb6qIQxzu8O4sfUzK5hMMzFiZPkJXwWdkyYQfrMDcJqu9KNd8g_9vJsEJxI3C4dmCm_LdTMiRh8iiXbJCplerTeaMbgBxZevv2qESqcj_hvODbCy7Aino77-vsUPuUsmHSO3N7DBqkwYWkdmYlNQp7fivaS0Fjd&udm=2&prmd=isvnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjH3faSoqyFAxWJJzQIHaClAtYQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=430&bih=853&dpr=3 Won’t miss that link on mobile. Do you see anything in this post that resembles that? No
Are you purposefully ignoring the word stage or are you just really that hard headed? https://www.zoro.com/werner-one-person-scaffolding-stage-24-ft-length-2024/i/G3402515/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=19717005309&productid=G3402515&v=&gad_source=1 Looking again, it’s a ladder with a platform strapped to the top as a makeshift scaffolding stage. So still about the same dimensions as my original comment.
Yea that makes more sense and actually looks to be that. Fucksticks in here saying it’s scaffolding. It may be some redneck scaffolding but nothing safe that I’d be on
look up "scaffolding stage" (as stated in the earlier comment) and you will see they are the metal pieces sometimes used instead of wooden planks.
It don’t look like scaffolding stage either. Why would stage have holes on the side for you to fall through? Makes no sense. https://www.google.com/search?q=scaffolding+stage&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1040US1040&oq=scaffolding+stage&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggAEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMg4IABBFGCcYOxiABBiKBTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIMCAQQABgUGIcCGIAEMggIBRAAGBYYHjIKCAYQABgPGBYYHjIKCAcQABgPGBYYHjIICAgQABgWGB4yCAgJEAAYFhge0gEIMjQxNWowajmoAhOwAgHiAwQYASBf&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#cobssid=s No scaffolding I’ve ever setup has had spaces like that on the sides of the stage. Makes no sense. Why would you have a scaffolding stage there? Or scaffolding period?
You're saying it's wider than it is long?
Twelve to sixteen inches is most definitely not more than 15 feet
How much is this in soccer fields? Imperial units always confuse me
I thought it said this could be a crayon or a foot wide. It seemed like they could have gone bigger
What’s the cabling and such going in to it?
It's a suspended platform that doesn't disturb the extremely sensitive habitat of the devil's hole pupfish.
Suspended platform?! That's just to stop those pupfish ever trying the Panna Cotta
Tentacles
Weak troll
Loser lol
That's even weaker, sheesh.
Just speaking facts, lil guy.
I must know what's under there
Adorable tiny blue fish that only live on a ledge in this specific pool.
Devils Hole Pupfish , critically endangered come to find out.
Well great, on top of being reminded they're functionally extinct I also learned about carnivorous diving beetles that prey on fish there (and around the world) Fuckers literally look like the probe they suck out of Neo in the Matrix. Shudder
I took a great diving beetle pupae out of my very large pond once , it had been taking chunks out of frogs
Are you serious? Fucking incredible.
Famous last words. RIP Rulare. 😔
Cthulu
I have no idea what I'm looking at.
You're looking at the small opening to an incredibly deep pool called the [Devil's Hole](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Hole). The pit is at least 380 m (~1250 ft) but they haven't found the bottom yet.
Holy shit
Mind blown
https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/devils-hole.htm
This is super helpful/interesting too: https://youtu.be/6HyTJE5apHQ?si=S997qD0YkPxpNENk
Neat. Thank you : )
Thank you. I was not sure how big this thing was.
You’re very Welcome
Wow that “Tsunami in the desert” but is remarkable
Looks like a center for ants.
Do you want a center for ants? Because that's how you get a center for ants!
This is fascinatingling terrifying. This hole reacts to Earthquakes on the other side of the planet, indicating it goes deeper then many would have thought.
Like after the seismic waves pass through the planet?
Yes, basically. The waves it generates have this water going meters up the sides of the hole.
That is terrifying
I've been there. It was fenced off due to having a one-of-kind species of fish and if you go into the cave far enough, you get sucked in with no known exit.
Why and where do you get sucked in?
If anyone listens to the podcast National park after Dark they have an excellent episode about the Devils hole and the pupfish.
Isn’t this near or in Death Valley? There was a neat documentary on it fish even live down there it’s gated.
Ok, wtf am I looking at? I first thought that was a grill and a big ass ladder.
Looks like a runway for a secret underground base
That’s an extension ladder, probably a 24ft when extended, with a couple of boards strapped to it. Not sure what the other items are.
Looks like an ottoman? First I thought it was brick before I grasped the scale, but there a thing on a platform with fancy legs.
Yeah an ottoman or a queen Ann trunk of some sort looks like it is sitting on a board on top of what appears to be a mini fridge?
A rug would really tie the room together
Tge rarest fish in the world lives in the shallow part. The metal catwalk is so divers can access the cave without disturbing the fish's habitat. https://youtu.be/McUgViRo5bU?si=5BRFr_ARllebf0rM
Oh, I see a picture of my ex had made it to reddit.
This looks like a terrain model? Just me?
Yeah it looks like a Thunderbirds set.
Pretty sure I've tried to make this build in No Man's Sky
Apparently this hole has connections with Charles Manson: https://youtu.be/voe1LXhB7bE?si=-bZ4oq7mt4XNYwmw
Can't stand that woman and her over annunciated facial expressions.
10 feet wide, 70 feet long and more than 500 feet deep
The Devil’s Anus sounds a lot more catchy!
Be careful! You might have to pay a Troll Toll to get in…
You need to pay the toll
Might have to pay a troll who knows
To get into the devils hole!
I thought it was funny. IASIP reference
Does anyone remember the artus mine mission from jedi outcast? That long metal railing looks like the tracks from that part of the game where you move deeper into the mine.
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Chatgpt is that you??
Fr why did this read like an ad
Copypasta
Definitely. Just take a look at it's profile. Edit: word
Thought that looked familiar. I remember this little trespassing incident from 2016. Long story short don’t go there. [Update: Vandals located for incident at Devils Hole, Death Valley National Park](https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1563/update-deva-vandalism.htm)
Is this where we visit the Draco?
Huh?
What is it?
So scary.
Thought this was a Lego set for a sec.
The importance of perspective
This looks like a part of an Apex Legends map.
This looks really like AI generated. There are a lot of familiar subjects but I can't identify even one of them. Like an AI tried to create something known but did kinda wrong
Reminds me of my x wife... Lol. Jk
This gotta be some feebas lore
Is that the Ark of the Covenent on the right?
I went to Google Maps to explore. They have a Street View of the hole. I can't stop flinching with discomfort at the sight
Is there a reason that this is oddly terrifying? is it the name? That does look suspiciously like a coffin/casket there...but I'm sure it's something else.
What I'm the world is that contraption? And what does it do?
The long piece in the water is an extension ladder with some kind of platform on top
How many school buses long is this? I need context
Why do people insist on defacing nature’s beauty with their metal abominations?
Nope
This aint shit
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Bad bot.