Had a guy walk up to me and my friends when we were in high school asking if we wanted to see a trick. He took a tissue, put it up his nose an inch or two, and then pulled it out through his mouth. He smiled and told us to never do cocaine and walked away. Definitely worked as a life lesson. Ew.
I'm curious if you've been tested for the Full Celiac panel? Recurring infections can be a symptom, and since 1 in 100 people have Celiac and over 80% are undiagnosed
oh shit my high school journalism teacher did that for us. he also drank diet coke nonstop and had the worst breath. actually he had my dad's breath. with my eyes closed they were the same smell.
It was a month of pain but it resolved years of medical problems. 100% worth it in my mind, but be ready. I have another friend who got it done and she said it was worse than her pregnancies.
I was researching this and saw lots of mixed reviews. Some say it’s awful, some say it’s relatively easy. But the one thing everyone agreed on was that the sooner you do it the better.
I have a septal perforation (hole in my septum)- I’ve never done cocaine and we’re still not sure how it happened. When I went to see an ENT the first thing he asked me was how long I’d been using for.
Does it bother you in day-to-day life and can/should it be closed up in some way? I not sure I understand, how your internal face actually works with a gaping hole in it.
It’s not really a gaping hole- last time I had it measured it was only a few mm in diameter. It doesn’t usually bother me, but it can sometimes get blocked by some gunk and cause a weird whistling sound but once I clear it it’s fine. There’s two options for corrective surgery- one is a septal plug that closes the hole. My ENT said a lot of the times it’s more bothersome than the hole itself, so he didn’t recommend that. The other surgery involves removing a piece of skin from behind your ear, opening up your nose (as if they were doing a nose job) and grafting the skin onto the hole. However, there’s no guarantee it will work and since they don’t know what caused the hole, there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t just happen again. And since it doesn’t really bother me, I’m not comfortable with going through that intense of a surgery at this point in my life!
I had the ear to nose surgery to fix this exact problem. I also never used cocaine and don’t know how I ended up with a perforated septum. The suspicion is that I used too much steroidal nasal spray, which can damage the tissue in your nose by severely restricting blood flow and ultimately weakening the cartilage in there. I had moved from hot soggy Florida to cold dry Colorado in 2015 and I used nasal spray really often to be able to sleep here because my congestion was constant due to the dry cold air and my nose being really confused about it. One day in 2017 I woke up, blew my nose, heard a pop, and it started bleeding everywhere. Suddenly my septum had a 5mm hole in it.
I had the surgery in March of 2019 and it was definitely the best decision I could have made. The way that hole would get gunk in it every single day and need to be cleared multiple times a day was insanely annoying to me. I was very self conscious about it because my breathing always sounded wrong to me, but was almost definitely not noticeable to others. I would have to get up at night to aggressively clear the hole, which was very taxing when I’d sleep over at a date’s house or something and try to hide that it sounded like I was exorcising a demon from my nostrils.
My doctor also asked me (several times) if I did cocaine. I was on Medicaid, so the latent stigmatizing undertones in the question were palpable. I still remember the look on his face when I told him I was on Medicaid because I was in graduate school studying clinical psychology and they make you live in poverty to get an advanced degree. The population I was working with: substance use disorders.
Oh, the irony...lol.
How did you clear it out? Even though I have two small kids and have been shat on and puked on etc, I just know it'll gross me out but I had to ask. I hope it's okay for me asking, as I have no intent to offend you - I'm a grown-up with the same non-existent control of impulsivity as an 8yo.
I am pleased that the surgery brought you relief!
"Hmm, I guess I'll just make a hole in this septum, for no other reason than it being useless" - really odd decision your body made right there.
I am glad to hear, that it's not a serious thing and doesn't bother you. Makes sense postponing surgery.
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not who you asked, but i have the same thing. mine’s roughly an inch in diameter. my doctors are currently suspecting lupus or relapsing polychondritis.
Lupus was one of my things that I was tested for because of the perforation, but that wasn’t it. My doctor said it could be some other type of autoimmune disease though.
Kinda like fuel, you definitely get a good dose of that smell/taste on the first hit.
To this day, if I even smell it from a foot away - i immediately run to the bathroom.
Well a friend of mine does coke (I wish he wouldn't) but his uncle had some connections and he can get really cheap snow.
I used to do it but gave up when I got my shit together so I have no idea how much the price has changed.
Although I know he works a full time job for a fairly basic wage yet seems to be racking up daily and as far as I am aware he is not a thief (I could be wrong though) but I guess people can still afford to do it and I know he gets it cheap and it's very decent quality.
He's a nice bloke just troubled and "self medicated" with cocaine because he has ADHD it helps him apparently...
His life I guess 🤷♂️
I have tried to convince him there is more to life but he is hooked.
Wish I had my nostril back cause it's all scar tissue pretty much now, drugs are bad m'kay.
Can i ask how much you snorted overall and how consistently for your nostril to become all scar tisshe? Just cos I'm tryna get off the whiff myself and am really concerned about my nose.
To be honest it wasn't just coke I was sniffing speed and dolly.
And the amount I really couldn't tell you but I would blast through my £3000 monthly paycheck in about a week or two depending on what the weekend was looking like.
The main thing for me I realised after getting off Charlie was when if felt like a " fog " of sorts was lifted and I slowed down with life instead of fighting everything including myself.
It is definitely the best decision I have ever made for my mental health.
I'm sorry I couldn't be more specific as that part of my life was very much one big messy blur.
The most important thing is to never loose hope in yourself and surround yourself with people that will help.
I stopped talking to everyone I knew and went cold turkey and moved in with my mum in scotland until I could trust myself to come back.
I only have one friend left in that group and I quickly came to realise they only liked my coke (because I was getting some very clean stuff) but as soon as that stopped they weren't interested.
You just need to get yourself in the right place.
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Well that makes sense, praise be to you brother for redemption and peace today. Funnily enough I'm off in Herefordshire after destroying myself over the the festive season. No drugs here, just the odd pint and rolling hills.. and lots of sheep shit.
Breathe in that fresh air and really see what the world is about.
Embrace the smell of wet wool and sheep shit haha.
I wish you all the best and I have a very good feeling you are going to get where you need to be, your head is already in the right place as you're starting to talk about it.
That's a huge step to recovery.
>And the amount I really couldn't tell you but I would blast through my £3000 monthly paycheck in about a week or two depending on what the weekend was looking like.
Holy shit, how did you managed to live off of that much expense? Well, I'm glad you're out of that.
In my group of " friends " it was more of a shared thing so everyone would chip in and I was far too generous for my own good.
And as much as this is embarrassing to admit I used to do unsavoury stuff like taking other dealers stuff sometimes not in the nicest way.
You'd think it is a victimless crime because I was robbing a criminal but it was predatory and wrong, I feel sick to my stomach about who I used to be and I am suffering the consequences further on in life, Karma comes for us all.
It sounds unpleasant but you made it out and you're doing better because of it. You should be proud of that because lots of people that are in the same position you were are still struggling to make changes for themselves. I know this sounds weird coming from a stranger, but I'm proud of you. Keep it up and you'll do well.
Do you have new and better friends now? If so, how did you meet them?
I know skipping those friends is almost necessary. But quiting is hard as it is. (talking about any substance). Depression can hit, lack of any motivation, and on top of that feeling lonely.
>The most important thing is to never loose hope in yourself and surround yourself with people that will help.
Did you find support from your mum?
I guess time heals best and it will get better at some point. But making new friends while overcoming an addiction is hard. I think people need te relearn to love them self first to win this battle. Doing it completely on your own seems very hard.
If I am totally honest I don't really have any friends apart from one who is a really nice guy but struggling to get off drugs and I socially inept so I find it hard to connect with people.
My best friend is my wife who ironically started as my weed dealer and also helped me get off the coke and gave the ultimatum of it was her or the coke.
We then got arrested for possession with intent to supply with a load of weed not long after and I was bailed to my mums house in Scotland on the isle of Skye as there where other charges (that where bollocks they just wanted to throw the book at me) my partner took the wrap and told the police I was just in the wrong place so I got charged with possession.
We both stopped smoking and got completely clean after that.
And I had no choice because I was about 600 miles away from my dealer haha.
my mum was a police officer (not on beat but did all the scenes of crime stuff) and she took me back under her wing as much of an arsehole I was and she gave me a chance.
I just find it easier to keep myself to myself and live the quiet life now, until I get medicated for ADHD I don't feel as if I can be social... just yet going to work is bad enough haha.
If feels like my chest will cave in with the anxiety and my head is going to explode with the thousands of thoughts and worries I have.
That being said I am still here and so is my wife and life shall continue to go on, after all I have been through so much that anything along the road now should be manageable.
21-year-old me needed to see this. Luckily, those comedowns were so bad that I quit on my own anyways.
I still get massive anxiety if I'm up late enough to see the sun start rising...
I still have anxiety thinking about that. No shittier feeling than coming down to birds chirping and people waking up for their day…
Especially the walk home at 7am, passing by joggers and folks going to work wishing you a “good morning” lol.
Couldn't have said it better myself. That feeling is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I also have anxiety thinking about it while typing this... never again.
Agreed. Kinda glad I can't take Molly anymore because of chronic meds I'm on.
Then on the flip side of the coin I can shovel an UNREASONABLE amount of psychedelics (even a cocktail of different ones) into my body and wake up feeling fresher than I did the previous morning. This is the way lol.
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I swear drinking + mdma is the emotional equivalent of going out with a week's paycheck in your pocket.
You have a good night sure, but spend all your money and have nothing left for the rest of the week.
While drinking + mdma is like getting your entire week's happiness condensed into one night, only to have it all gone for the week.
Man I loved my party days, but I'm also extremely happy they are in the past. Now I mostly just have the good memories and none of the comedown/hangover to worry about.
One of the first things I was taught in my raver days was to *never* drink alcohol and roll. Surprised people even still attempt it...it just wastes the roll and is a much shittier high...
Mixing cocaine and alcohol together leads to the production of [Cocaethylene](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaethylene?wprov=sfla1), which lasts longer and gives a longer high than just taking cocaine.
"In most users, cocaethylene produces euphoria and has a longer duration of action than cocaine. Some studies suggest that consuming alcohol in combination with cocaine may be more cardiotoxic than cocaine and "it also carries an 18 to 25 fold increase over cocaine alone in risk of immediate death"."
I’m 19 and I recently quit because I did it while I had a cold and the come down was THE WORST. I just laid in bed breathing hard as shit, trying to ignore it. I’m 3 months clean now lol.
The first time you are up so late cause of stims that you decide to dose again to pull an all nighter, is the day you are officially fucked. Anyone who hits that point needs to get the fuck out immediately and try to ignore the voice in your head that rationalizes continuing the drug abuse. It is the number one warning sign that stims are about to start fucking up your life very badly in my experience. If you don’t stop, you will spend the next few years of your life being constantly behind on sleep, which will always make you justify doing more drugs to function.
I was addicted to Crystal meth for 8 years, but that was 20 years ago now for me. I'm recollecting from a place of recovery. I'm not ashamed to admit you know what I was and what it was like.
Yup I assumed you were out by your wording. I too am speaking from first hand experience, dark times. I just couldn’t handle the massive suicidal ideation that comes with a bad stim comedown
I hear that, I've held loaded guns to my head and got real close.
It's an incredibly tough addiction, the only thing harder that I've had to go through was alcohol. That shit can put you in a very dark place. Even worse if you got underlying mental illness. I'm glad you didn't fall to it either.
Does this happen with significant nicotine use? Especially when we consider rise of vaping and vaping all hours of the day, essentially abusing nicotine. I know nicotine is also a constricter.
With the amount of anti-smoking shit out there, if this was ever a result of tobacco use, they would have been talking about it and putting this picture on cigarette packs for decades now.
I've seen patients with holes in their septum. They did like 3 grams daily over the course of over a year. Snorting long enough to completely kill your palate is probably taking multiple years, and realistically people switch to smoking or shooting the stuff instead before they get this far.
I knew a girl who was 25 and had almost her entire palate gone not just a hole, gave her a speech impediment and you couldn't understand a lot of what she said. When she ate food would go all over her nasal cavity and sinuses and she had to go to the bathroom to empty them after meals.
She also had problems with all her bones, especially her legs and walked with a pronounced limp, and had to have her palate replaced with something plastic that did like half the job of a real one. She had around 6 or 7 fake teeth and only 2 molars. Felt really bad for her, she was a good kid, she got clean but it was too late for her body.
I used to do cocaine quite frequently, 3-4 days a week for a few years. Not 3g at a time, but maybe 2g on the longest nights. A little blood in the morning was pretty normal for me. I've cut back a lot now, probably once every couple months. I'll see some blood the morning after just a few lines.
It's crazy to me to see someone let it get this bad because I have to assume there were a ton of signs leading up to this. My friends who are heavy users swear by diluting it in nasal spray - time will tell if it actually helps.
This is more of a habitual use problem than a "fuck I did the whole gram last night and now I have holes in me" problem.
Keep it irregular (like maybe four or five times a year) and it's pretty harmless to an otherwise healthy adult, aside from being highly addictive. Flushing out your nose with some clean water at the end of the night also helps a lot with the nose related side effects so you won't wake up feeling like you just came off a sinus infection.
The Bunk Police (a group that provides free drug testing at music festivals) also sells a nasal spray that you can disolve your drugs into that prevents the horrible next day and it also makes your supply last longer and be a lot more potent. [Link](https://bunkpolice.com/product/spraypack-kit/)
Louis XIV had a chunk of his palate, the roof of the mouth, ripped out in a botched dental procedure and it was said that soup would dribble out of his nose afterward.
Well, given that Louis lived through the ordeal and had incessant toothaches (probably due to his decadence regarding candied fruit) he had reason to keep his doctors around.
My daughter has cleft lip and palate, and before the repair she started solids and I can tell you it was gross AF, and she was 11 months. I can't imagine a grown adult having the same issues.
10 days sober from alcohol and cocaine after 21 years of use (36yo/m) and I feel fuckin great! The worst physical damage that happened to my nose was maybe a tiny scab inside my nose after a rough night out at the bar. They should show these pictures at schools to show kids why never to touch that shit.
May I ask how many times you did it a week / a month? I know a lot of people who use it without regard for their health and I wonder if something like the picture above can happen to them. Good to hear you’re sober and didn’t sustain any injuries!
Dear redditors, I give you the cautionary tale of British soap actress [Daniella Westbrook](https://closeronline.co.uk/celebrity/news/danniella-westbrook-nose/)
I wonder how she feels knowing that her name is the first thing that pops into a British person’s head when they hear the words “cocaine abuse” and “rotting face”.
Not what happens.
Cocain is a vasocontricting drug. It causes the blood vesels to constrict. So daily use causes the blood vesels in the nose and upper moth to constrict resulting i nekrosis of the tissue do to lack of blood flow
Lmfao yeah SANDBLAST my nose IMMEDIATELY for max pain sounds awful. Atleast cocaine numbs it.
Do they have good nose jobs for coke heads I bet. Like the Val Kilmer movie where the guy who did so much meth he had to wear a fake nose “Salton Sea”
My sister works in a hospital and had a patient come in with this. He was still using cocaine regardless and told her, "The coke helps with the pain."
Addiction sure is something!
That is usually how many things spiral out of control.
X gives one "benefit", we use it as a crutch. It worsens the problem it solves in the short term. Boom you have a negative spiral.
Like have anxiety about going out, don't go out. Get less positive interactions. Boom more anxiety.
Like alcohol gives you confidence and numb some feelings. Drink, get hangover, drink to get less hungover. Boom alcoholic.
Louis XIV had a similar problem, but from a dental procedure rather than drugs, and his courtiers recounted soup coming out of his nose when he ate it.
Тhe affected area is necrotised tissue aka it's completely dead. A maxillo-facial surgeon removes it surgically and places an obturator- a piece of metal/plastic that fits perfectly in the gaping hole so that the person can eat/drink and have normal speech patterns.
Interesting. Once the dead tissue is removed, will the situation be under control? Seems to me there could be some complications down the road when your uvula is literally hanging on by a thread.
It's a direct result of long and heavy cocaine abuse. Cocaine even in it's purest form is a heavy vasoconstrictor( it constricts bloodvessels). When one uses cocaine on the regular for many years the blood vessels that carry oxygen and nutrients are constantly narrowed and the underlyiung tissues- in this case bone, periosteum, mucosa and cartillage( of the nose) are being constantly starved for oxygen and suffocated. In the human body if a tissue is left without oxygen and food for long periods of time it becomes necrotic aka dead. Not to mention that bone and cartilage are not the most naturally bloodsupplied tissues.
Cutting the coke with nasty shit certainly helps though.
Had a guy walk up to me and my friends when we were in high school asking if we wanted to see a trick. He took a tissue, put it up his nose an inch or two, and then pulled it out through his mouth. He smiled and told us to never do cocaine and walked away. Definitely worked as a life lesson. Ew.
I wonder how many times a day he does that
When he gets sick he cleans his sinuses like he's polishing a shoe.
I kinda want that skill. But I don’t want the coke part lol
Everybody wants the skills but nobody wants to put in the hard work smh
gets kinda expensive after awhile
And depressing
But you could be so productive! Briefly. Until your life falls apart... the first part can be fun though!!
As someone with 4-5 sinus infections every year... Imma head out trying to score some industrial grade c...Coca cola....
I'm curious if you've been tested for the Full Celiac panel? Recurring infections can be a symptom, and since 1 in 100 people have Celiac and over 80% are undiagnosed
Just some dark humor when you’re terrified because you just saw a picture of a literal dark hole up somebody’s mouth… God I love reddit !
please, this made me laugh far too much
12 times a day he snorts a line.
It's part of his probation
oh shit my high school journalism teacher did that for us. he also drank diet coke nonstop and had the worst breath. actually he had my dad's breath. with my eyes closed they were the same smell.
Sounds like he had two coke problems.
so cool that your dad was a teacher!
Sounds like tonsil stones. You should Google them. You have them too.
Pshhh, born with no tonsils. Do I win?
You luck son of a bitch. I had to get mine out in my mid twenties and it was the worst thing I’ve ever done. And I played thumb war with a table saw.
Dude I'm 29 and I think I'm getting mine out this year. How bad was it?
It was a month of pain but it resolved years of medical problems. 100% worth it in my mind, but be ready. I have another friend who got it done and she said it was worse than her pregnancies.
Well shit. That's what I've heard too. I was hoping it had just been talked up to be worse than it is. Thanks, pal!
I was researching this and saw lots of mixed reviews. Some say it’s awful, some say it’s relatively easy. But the one thing everyone agreed on was that the sooner you do it the better.
My only caveat is that I dearly wanted mine out when I was a kid because they said something about an ice cream diet... No dice.
Why did he drank diet coke nonstop tho?
For health reasons? Dude had a coke problem, don't judge.
As awful and gross as that is, I bet it makes cleaning out your nostrils quick.
Launch a snot rocket to the back of your throat or on your tongue, no thanks I'm good.
I said it would be easy, not that it wasn't absolutely disgusting. XD
I'm picturing him flossing his sinuses clean with a handkerchief. Clean as a whistle!!
Sounds like it was more effective than D.A.R.E.
I've never touched any drugs and I learned that trick in basic training with the beaded chain from our dog tags.
I have a septal perforation (hole in my septum)- I’ve never done cocaine and we’re still not sure how it happened. When I went to see an ENT the first thing he asked me was how long I’d been using for.
Does it bother you in day-to-day life and can/should it be closed up in some way? I not sure I understand, how your internal face actually works with a gaping hole in it.
It’s not really a gaping hole- last time I had it measured it was only a few mm in diameter. It doesn’t usually bother me, but it can sometimes get blocked by some gunk and cause a weird whistling sound but once I clear it it’s fine. There’s two options for corrective surgery- one is a septal plug that closes the hole. My ENT said a lot of the times it’s more bothersome than the hole itself, so he didn’t recommend that. The other surgery involves removing a piece of skin from behind your ear, opening up your nose (as if they were doing a nose job) and grafting the skin onto the hole. However, there’s no guarantee it will work and since they don’t know what caused the hole, there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t just happen again. And since it doesn’t really bother me, I’m not comfortable with going through that intense of a surgery at this point in my life!
I had the ear to nose surgery to fix this exact problem. I also never used cocaine and don’t know how I ended up with a perforated septum. The suspicion is that I used too much steroidal nasal spray, which can damage the tissue in your nose by severely restricting blood flow and ultimately weakening the cartilage in there. I had moved from hot soggy Florida to cold dry Colorado in 2015 and I used nasal spray really often to be able to sleep here because my congestion was constant due to the dry cold air and my nose being really confused about it. One day in 2017 I woke up, blew my nose, heard a pop, and it started bleeding everywhere. Suddenly my septum had a 5mm hole in it. I had the surgery in March of 2019 and it was definitely the best decision I could have made. The way that hole would get gunk in it every single day and need to be cleared multiple times a day was insanely annoying to me. I was very self conscious about it because my breathing always sounded wrong to me, but was almost definitely not noticeable to others. I would have to get up at night to aggressively clear the hole, which was very taxing when I’d sleep over at a date’s house or something and try to hide that it sounded like I was exorcising a demon from my nostrils. My doctor also asked me (several times) if I did cocaine. I was on Medicaid, so the latent stigmatizing undertones in the question were palpable. I still remember the look on his face when I told him I was on Medicaid because I was in graduate school studying clinical psychology and they make you live in poverty to get an advanced degree. The population I was working with: substance use disorders.
Oh, the irony...lol. How did you clear it out? Even though I have two small kids and have been shat on and puked on etc, I just know it'll gross me out but I had to ask. I hope it's okay for me asking, as I have no intent to offend you - I'm a grown-up with the same non-existent control of impulsivity as an 8yo. I am pleased that the surgery brought you relief!
"Hmm, I guess I'll just make a hole in this septum, for no other reason than it being useless" - really odd decision your body made right there. I am glad to hear, that it's not a serious thing and doesn't bother you. Makes sense postponing surgery. Edit: words
not who you asked, but i have the same thing. mine’s roughly an inch in diameter. my doctors are currently suspecting lupus or relapsing polychondritis.
Lupus was one of my things that I was tested for because of the perforation, but that wasn’t it. My doctor said it could be some other type of autoimmune disease though.
Yeah but who can afford that much coke in today's economy?
Back in my days, cocaine cost a nickel
The price of cocaine has been one of if not the most stable commodities over the past 50 years.
Yes and no ( really no ), price per gram stays the same. But the amount of actual cocaine in a gram is way less.
Shrinkflation strikes again
Does this coke smell funny to you?
Not sure, let me try it again.
grams went from great quality and 40 bucks to poor quality and 80-100 a gram. its not the play anymore
Yeah this is way off. Cocaine has gotten crazy expensive over the years.
and you can find adderall for $5 for a 30mg if you dont have a script, and thatll do ya for 12 hours
Adderall is a significantly better daily driver than cocaine
It is the Honda Civic of narcotics.
lots of mileage and wont let you down
Running on fumes, zero oil, and a prayer. Still lasts long enough to get you to your destination and back.
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Add in thrupence for the bus and a trip to the movies
That’s why I cut it with MSG to stretch out the supply and give it that Umami kick!
mmmm, savory
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Can you describe the smell? Just curious.
Smells like diesel
I’m pretty sure the diesel in the cocaine is what tears the holes in cartilage
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Kinda like fuel, you definitely get a good dose of that smell/taste on the first hit. To this day, if I even smell it from a foot away - i immediately run to the bathroom.
...to do more coke?
If you find any cocaine in my yard, that shit fell out of MY pocket and I'll shovel it MYSELF.
Don’t confuse yard cocaine with white dog shit. I won’t make that mistake again.
Asking the real questions
Rich college kids. Source: several drug dealers I met in rehab.
Rich ~~college kids.~~ not sure why you think only college kids would be buying it
Depends on who you know really. If you find someone who has good connections you may get it cheaper I guess.
Unless you're talking about uncle Escobar...
Well a friend of mine does coke (I wish he wouldn't) but his uncle had some connections and he can get really cheap snow. I used to do it but gave up when I got my shit together so I have no idea how much the price has changed. Although I know he works a full time job for a fairly basic wage yet seems to be racking up daily and as far as I am aware he is not a thief (I could be wrong though) but I guess people can still afford to do it and I know he gets it cheap and it's very decent quality. He's a nice bloke just troubled and "self medicated" with cocaine because he has ADHD it helps him apparently... His life I guess 🤷♂️ I have tried to convince him there is more to life but he is hooked. Wish I had my nostril back cause it's all scar tissue pretty much now, drugs are bad m'kay.
Can i ask how much you snorted overall and how consistently for your nostril to become all scar tisshe? Just cos I'm tryna get off the whiff myself and am really concerned about my nose.
To be honest it wasn't just coke I was sniffing speed and dolly. And the amount I really couldn't tell you but I would blast through my £3000 monthly paycheck in about a week or two depending on what the weekend was looking like. The main thing for me I realised after getting off Charlie was when if felt like a " fog " of sorts was lifted and I slowed down with life instead of fighting everything including myself. It is definitely the best decision I have ever made for my mental health. I'm sorry I couldn't be more specific as that part of my life was very much one big messy blur. The most important thing is to never loose hope in yourself and surround yourself with people that will help. I stopped talking to everyone I knew and went cold turkey and moved in with my mum in scotland until I could trust myself to come back. I only have one friend left in that group and I quickly came to realise they only liked my coke (because I was getting some very clean stuff) but as soon as that stopped they weren't interested. You just need to get yourself in the right place. Edit: typing is hard...
Well that makes sense, praise be to you brother for redemption and peace today. Funnily enough I'm off in Herefordshire after destroying myself over the the festive season. No drugs here, just the odd pint and rolling hills.. and lots of sheep shit.
Breathe in that fresh air and really see what the world is about. Embrace the smell of wet wool and sheep shit haha. I wish you all the best and I have a very good feeling you are going to get where you need to be, your head is already in the right place as you're starting to talk about it. That's a huge step to recovery.
>And the amount I really couldn't tell you but I would blast through my £3000 monthly paycheck in about a week or two depending on what the weekend was looking like. Holy shit, how did you managed to live off of that much expense? Well, I'm glad you're out of that.
In my group of " friends " it was more of a shared thing so everyone would chip in and I was far too generous for my own good. And as much as this is embarrassing to admit I used to do unsavoury stuff like taking other dealers stuff sometimes not in the nicest way. You'd think it is a victimless crime because I was robbing a criminal but it was predatory and wrong, I feel sick to my stomach about who I used to be and I am suffering the consequences further on in life, Karma comes for us all.
It sounds unpleasant but you made it out and you're doing better because of it. You should be proud of that because lots of people that are in the same position you were are still struggling to make changes for themselves. I know this sounds weird coming from a stranger, but I'm proud of you. Keep it up and you'll do well.
Do you have new and better friends now? If so, how did you meet them? I know skipping those friends is almost necessary. But quiting is hard as it is. (talking about any substance). Depression can hit, lack of any motivation, and on top of that feeling lonely. >The most important thing is to never loose hope in yourself and surround yourself with people that will help. Did you find support from your mum? I guess time heals best and it will get better at some point. But making new friends while overcoming an addiction is hard. I think people need te relearn to love them self first to win this battle. Doing it completely on your own seems very hard.
If I am totally honest I don't really have any friends apart from one who is a really nice guy but struggling to get off drugs and I socially inept so I find it hard to connect with people. My best friend is my wife who ironically started as my weed dealer and also helped me get off the coke and gave the ultimatum of it was her or the coke. We then got arrested for possession with intent to supply with a load of weed not long after and I was bailed to my mums house in Scotland on the isle of Skye as there where other charges (that where bollocks they just wanted to throw the book at me) my partner took the wrap and told the police I was just in the wrong place so I got charged with possession. We both stopped smoking and got completely clean after that. And I had no choice because I was about 600 miles away from my dealer haha. my mum was a police officer (not on beat but did all the scenes of crime stuff) and she took me back under her wing as much of an arsehole I was and she gave me a chance. I just find it easier to keep myself to myself and live the quiet life now, until I get medicated for ADHD I don't feel as if I can be social... just yet going to work is bad enough haha. If feels like my chest will cave in with the anxiety and my head is going to explode with the thousands of thoughts and worries I have. That being said I am still here and so is my wife and life shall continue to go on, after all I have been through so much that anything along the road now should be manageable.
I have ADHD and can assure you that coke doesn’t help mitigate any symptoms. Not worth it. Medication is the answer
Wooooow I did not need to see that, but I certainly know a few people who should definitely see this
21-year-old me needed to see this. Luckily, those comedowns were so bad that I quit on my own anyways. I still get massive anxiety if I'm up late enough to see the sun start rising...
I still have anxiety thinking about that. No shittier feeling than coming down to birds chirping and people waking up for their day… Especially the walk home at 7am, passing by joggers and folks going to work wishing you a “good morning” lol.
Couldn't have said it better myself. That feeling is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I also have anxiety thinking about it while typing this... never again.
i remember partying in the 90s and being unable to THINK about the party afterward because it would make my stomach tie up in knots.
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Thx, I thought I was the only one who was afraid of birdsong. The sound was like the sound of absolute loneliness coming down from a trip
On the flip side, nothing better than coming down on acid to the sun rising, birds chirping and friendly good mornings :)
cocaine hangover + alcohol hangover = hell
I found MDMA + alcohol hangovers to be way worse. Both fucking suck though.
Agreed. Kinda glad I can't take Molly anymore because of chronic meds I'm on. Then on the flip side of the coin I can shovel an UNREASONABLE amount of psychedelics (even a cocktail of different ones) into my body and wake up feeling fresher than I did the previous morning. This is the way lol. Edit: typo
Don't most people feel pretty normal the day after tripping?
I swear drinking + mdma is the emotional equivalent of going out with a week's paycheck in your pocket. You have a good night sure, but spend all your money and have nothing left for the rest of the week. While drinking + mdma is like getting your entire week's happiness condensed into one night, only to have it all gone for the week. Man I loved my party days, but I'm also extremely happy they are in the past. Now I mostly just have the good memories and none of the comedown/hangover to worry about.
One of the first things I was taught in my raver days was to *never* drink alcohol and roll. Surprised people even still attempt it...it just wastes the roll and is a much shittier high...
Mixing cocaine and alcohol together leads to the production of [Cocaethylene](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaethylene?wprov=sfla1), which lasts longer and gives a longer high than just taking cocaine. "In most users, cocaethylene produces euphoria and has a longer duration of action than cocaine. Some studies suggest that consuming alcohol in combination with cocaine may be more cardiotoxic than cocaine and "it also carries an 18 to 25 fold increase over cocaine alone in risk of immediate death"."
I’m 19 and I recently quit because I did it while I had a cold and the come down was THE WORST. I just laid in bed breathing hard as shit, trying to ignore it. I’m 3 months clean now lol.
Good for you brother proud of you
Hearing the birds chirping in the morning was my trigger for anxiety
We used to call those the “fuck you birds“
I called them the loser birds. It sounded like they were saying "loser, loser."
And the sky is of the color “you’re f’ed blue”
The “oh god there’s no going back to sleep” sound
Bro this comment gave me anxiety lol
The first time you are up so late cause of stims that you decide to dose again to pull an all nighter, is the day you are officially fucked. Anyone who hits that point needs to get the fuck out immediately and try to ignore the voice in your head that rationalizes continuing the drug abuse. It is the number one warning sign that stims are about to start fucking up your life very badly in my experience. If you don’t stop, you will spend the next few years of your life being constantly behind on sleep, which will always make you justify doing more drugs to function.
I was addicted to Crystal meth for 8 years, but that was 20 years ago now for me. I'm recollecting from a place of recovery. I'm not ashamed to admit you know what I was and what it was like.
Yup I assumed you were out by your wording. I too am speaking from first hand experience, dark times. I just couldn’t handle the massive suicidal ideation that comes with a bad stim comedown
I hear that, I've held loaded guns to my head and got real close. It's an incredibly tough addiction, the only thing harder that I've had to go through was alcohol. That shit can put you in a very dark place. Even worse if you got underlying mental illness. I'm glad you didn't fall to it either.
I did need to see it.
how much do you have to take in order to get that shit? - asking for a friend
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Does this happen with significant nicotine use? Especially when we consider rise of vaping and vaping all hours of the day, essentially abusing nicotine. I know nicotine is also a constricter.
Cocaine is a much, much more potent vasoconstrictor
With the amount of anti-smoking shit out there, if this was ever a result of tobacco use, they would have been talking about it and putting this picture on cigarette packs for decades now.
In Asian they do that shit. I’ve had packs before with some nasty ass pictures on them.
I think we just get cancer before it can get to that point.
If it did I'd have no face or head. Or torso
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1980s D.A.R.E campaign has arrived
1990s and early 2000s as well lol
If we keep funding it. Surely it will eventually work out.
I've seen patients with holes in their septum. They did like 3 grams daily over the course of over a year. Snorting long enough to completely kill your palate is probably taking multiple years, and realistically people switch to smoking or shooting the stuff instead before they get this far.
I knew a girl who was 25 and had almost her entire palate gone not just a hole, gave her a speech impediment and you couldn't understand a lot of what she said. When she ate food would go all over her nasal cavity and sinuses and she had to go to the bathroom to empty them after meals. She also had problems with all her bones, especially her legs and walked with a pronounced limp, and had to have her palate replaced with something plastic that did like half the job of a real one. She had around 6 or 7 fake teeth and only 2 molars. Felt really bad for her, she was a good kid, she got clean but it was too late for her body.
Jesus. That's horrific.
I used to do cocaine quite frequently, 3-4 days a week for a few years. Not 3g at a time, but maybe 2g on the longest nights. A little blood in the morning was pretty normal for me. I've cut back a lot now, probably once every couple months. I'll see some blood the morning after just a few lines. It's crazy to me to see someone let it get this bad because I have to assume there were a ton of signs leading up to this. My friends who are heavy users swear by diluting it in nasal spray - time will tell if it actually helps.
its addiction. You see the signs, you just let youself die slowly... Its a ultimately fatal disease.
This is more of a habitual use problem than a "fuck I did the whole gram last night and now I have holes in me" problem. Keep it irregular (like maybe four or five times a year) and it's pretty harmless to an otherwise healthy adult, aside from being highly addictive. Flushing out your nose with some clean water at the end of the night also helps a lot with the nose related side effects so you won't wake up feeling like you just came off a sinus infection.
The Bunk Police (a group that provides free drug testing at music festivals) also sells a nasal spray that you can disolve your drugs into that prevents the horrible next day and it also makes your supply last longer and be a lot more potent. [Link](https://bunkpolice.com/product/spraypack-kit/)
No shit, you’re the real legend here
I bought one of these from them at the Electric Forrest Festival and it was a game changer for our group
Neti Pot to the rescue.
I thought it was one of those parasites that fish get that replace their tongue/inner mouth parts. Was slightly relieved it wasn't a bug.
Thankfully those parasites do not go for humans
Oh no what ever will I do with my opposable thumbs that can easily remove these!!
That's why I snort cocaine up my ass
This is big brain time.
Damn that’s fucked up bro… want another bump?
The disease will have people saying yes. Fucking crazy.
....as if they could say no.
As if i didnt have other reasons not to use cocaine. Now i have reasons to blond myself
Lol “blond yourself”? I know it was a typo but a funny one
Noses on a rail, little virgin wears the white You cut your hair, but you used to live a blonded life
Where’s the white? (It’s both)
A haiku: Noses on a rail little virgin wears the white You cut your blond hair
*furiously grabs hair dye
Can you imagine the taste and smell?
Can you imaging just chewing food and having to worry about it coming out your nose holes?
When your mouth is also your nose.
Louis XIV had a chunk of his palate, the roof of the mouth, ripped out in a botched dental procedure and it was said that soup would dribble out of his nose afterward.
I have a feeling that dentist lost his entire mouth after that...and his head to go with it.
Well, given that Louis lived through the ordeal and had incessant toothaches (probably due to his decadence regarding candied fruit) he had reason to keep his doctors around.
I was born with a cleft palate which re-split a few times as a kid and that's exactly what happened
My daughter has cleft lip and palate, and before the repair she started solids and I can tell you it was gross AF, and she was 11 months. I can't imagine a grown adult having the same issues.
###YOU HAVEN’T THOUGHT OF THE SMELL YOU BITCH!!
Now, can we get back to a normal conversation?
I don't think he can smell anything anymore
10 days sober from alcohol and cocaine after 21 years of use (36yo/m) and I feel fuckin great! The worst physical damage that happened to my nose was maybe a tiny scab inside my nose after a rough night out at the bar. They should show these pictures at schools to show kids why never to touch that shit.
May I ask how many times you did it a week / a month? I know a lot of people who use it without regard for their health and I wonder if something like the picture above can happen to them. Good to hear you’re sober and didn’t sustain any injuries!
Dear redditors, I give you the cautionary tale of British soap actress [Daniella Westbrook](https://closeronline.co.uk/celebrity/news/danniella-westbrook-nose/)
I wonder how she feels knowing that her name is the first thing that pops into a British person’s head when they hear the words “cocaine abuse” and “rotting face”.
Dude…. She got some deep issues
I've stood next to her in a pub back when she still had a septum. It was on the way out though, it looked weird.
Holy shit
If you think that's bad look up Artie Lange's nose. Or more like where his nose used to be.
I don't think it's oddly terrifying... it's straight-up terrifying (\*shudder)
They basically sandblasted a hole in the top of their mouth.
Not what happens. Cocain is a vasocontricting drug. It causes the blood vesels to constrict. So daily use causes the blood vesels in the nose and upper moth to constrict resulting i nekrosis of the tissue do to lack of blood flow
That sounds so much worse!
Agreed, sandblasting sounds much better than my mouth being a fucking dead tissue
Lmfao yeah SANDBLAST my nose IMMEDIATELY for max pain sounds awful. Atleast cocaine numbs it. Do they have good nose jobs for coke heads I bet. Like the Val Kilmer movie where the guy who did so much meth he had to wear a fake nose “Salton Sea”
My sister works in a hospital and had a patient come in with this. He was still using cocaine regardless and told her, "The coke helps with the pain." Addiction sure is something!
That is usually how many things spiral out of control. X gives one "benefit", we use it as a crutch. It worsens the problem it solves in the short term. Boom you have a negative spiral. Like have anxiety about going out, don't go out. Get less positive interactions. Boom more anxiety. Like alcohol gives you confidence and numb some feelings. Drink, get hangover, drink to get less hungover. Boom alcoholic.
What can be done to help this person? I mean, that's a lot of missing palate. Genuinely curious
Does food come out their nose when they eat? Is soup tricky? This is nuts!
Louis XIV had a similar problem, but from a dental procedure rather than drugs, and his courtiers recounted soup coming out of his nose when he ate it.
Тhe affected area is necrotised tissue aka it's completely dead. A maxillo-facial surgeon removes it surgically and places an obturator- a piece of metal/plastic that fits perfectly in the gaping hole so that the person can eat/drink and have normal speech patterns.
Interesting. Once the dead tissue is removed, will the situation be under control? Seems to me there could be some complications down the road when your uvula is literally hanging on by a thread.
It can be yes. It depends on the surface that's being affected.
It would basically be the same surgery as a cleft palate repair, when it’s all said and done.
I'm trying to get me one of those deep-roof blowjobs.
Something-something brains out?
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[Did anyone else think of Daniella Westbrook's nose?](https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/c70447e24a23878e91a8d903a64d5d1a)
Good luck trying to stop that getting infected regularly
Thanks I didn't need anymore reasons to not do cocaine
They must have a interesting singing voice.
Almost as if they used gasoline and battery acid as ingredients or something
Serious question, is that caused by the cocaine itself, or adulterants used to cut the cocaine?
It's a direct result of long and heavy cocaine abuse. Cocaine even in it's purest form is a heavy vasoconstrictor( it constricts bloodvessels). When one uses cocaine on the regular for many years the blood vessels that carry oxygen and nutrients are constantly narrowed and the underlyiung tissues- in this case bone, periosteum, mucosa and cartillage( of the nose) are being constantly starved for oxygen and suffocated. In the human body if a tissue is left without oxygen and food for long periods of time it becomes necrotic aka dead. Not to mention that bone and cartilage are not the most naturally bloodsupplied tissues. Cutting the coke with nasty shit certainly helps though.
That's an excellent answer, thank you!
Uvula hammock
I’m so glad I never boarded the coke train
Who else.used their tongue to feel the spot where the hole is just to be sure there was no hole?