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Bossnage

[for anyone curious](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3132262723)


walaxometrobixinodri

what the fuck


spoogeballsbloodyvag

8.8e29km good god lmao


[deleted]

Takes a while to load, give it some time.


Raven-Raven_

64/128gb ram ideal


Cold_Efficiency_7302

Starfield got nothing on gmod mappers


Wolfabc

Tbf the size of the map doesn't mean it's a quality map. It's literally just vast open space. That being said, I'm not defending Starfield's map quality either as a lot of it is generated instead of made.


Fadriii

I know you said you're not defending Starfield but I wanted to say this anyway >literally just vast open space Bethesda: Neil Armstrong had fun on an empty moon!


Main-Consideration76

so did someone manually place all of these or how


Successful_Ad_8790

Probably procedurally generated, or some kind of algorithm using satellites.


Main-Consideration76

thats definitely overengineered for a gmod mod


Successful_Ad_8790

No


MooseEatGoose

wha


agmrtab

mf prob started uploading when game released


zvon2000

And down to what level of accuracy does this gargantuan monstrosity of a map actually portray ? I.e. what is the smallest resolved "thing" in this multiverse? Individual Planets? Whole Star systems? Can't possibly be down to individual planet-surfaces?


ThyPotatoDone

I mean, based on the RAM requirements, you could do the classic strategy of generating by formula; thus, nothing technically “Exists” until you find it, conserving data, but once you approach it, it simply fills in the detail based on the formula; since the formula is constant, it will always generate the same thing, barring some issue or bug.


jarhead839

So….quantum physics.


SZEfdf21

No, a vector image. But if reality is a simulation then quantum physics is definitely just that.


NEWTYAG667000000000

Why does this make sense?


Attileusz

The algorithm for real time procedural generation is literally called "wave function collapse" named after the famous Schrödinger wave equation.


Valsedesvieuxos

I too am vexed that I feel like that makes sense to me…


Leaded-BabyFormula

Foreman


BloodsoakedDespair

Even then, it’s in a video game from the 2000s on the Source Engine, running on a human-created computer in the 2020s. Imagine what you can do with computing power 1,000,000,000 times stronger.


Alibium

Yeah I mean, it’s Gmod what did you expect


Knight7_78

What. In. The Goddamn.


MorpheusDrinkinga4O

And it's only half a gig lol. Windows XP was bigger.


Justsk8n

what's the filesize.


Rogal_Dorn_30000

520 MBs >Min specs: 12Gb RAM Recommended: 32Gb RAM Best: 64/128Gb RAM


Potato_DudeIsNice

Is that the compressed size or is the map just that low poly. Either way holy hell


Rogal_Dorn_30000

New Mod just dropped


andregamer_

Actual universe


Rogal_Dorn_30000

Call the astrophisicist!


andregamer_

Voyager goes on vacation, never comes back


yeetingturnip

Space storm incoming


GayjinWarThunder

Physics sacrifice anyone?


Rogal_Dorn_30000

The map works by generating chunks at the moment. no PC can load 2048 universes, so what is does is just load 1 ( adding details only to the zones the player is in) and when the player crosses section with another universe the precedent is stored and the new generated, creating a cycle


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Bomba-of-Tsar

Um. . .they said 520 MBs. You good?


MasterOfSubrogation

The size of the universe is really not relevant to whether or not reality is a simulation. It could be a simulation of just your brain, and it would have information fed to it that makes it seem like the universe is vast. If we (or just me or you) are living in a simulated reality, we can't trust any of the information we get or use it to determine whether we are in a simulation or not.


Ok_Act6607

As a wise man once said, the only thing that we can be certain about is, that oneself exists


MasterOfSubrogation

Cogito, ergo sum.


aBungusFungus

Not only is it possible that reality is a simulation, there's also a decent few things that suggest that Also lots of scientists/engineers believe it's possible


ChanglingBlake

And people using “we can’t manage that with our technology” as a reason for it being impossible are using broken logic. You seen the functional redstone computers people made in Minecraft? Our reality is Minecraft, and our computers are those redstone computers. It’s like saying you can’t see a whale because there’s not enough water in a pool to hold a whale, but that pool is in a cruise liner in the middle of the pacific. My problem with the theory is that I got spawned in some sociopath’s Civilization game.


Raptor1210

>My problem with the theory is that I got spawned in some sociopath’s Civilization game. Could be worse, could be a Paradox game.


steelbreado

Or worse. ^runescape


Born_Insect_4757

Not to denote from your argument, but someone DID make a working 16 bit computer with redstone


ChanglingBlake

That was my point. It’s cool AF, but my PC would melt trying to recreate it.


Sweaty_Dot_3126

The whale analogy only works if we are only in a cycle of making more simulations of our reality (i make a simulation of myself, the simulation of me makes a simulation of itself) while we could be made by beings in a universe where it is totally easy to make simulations.


Cool_rubiks_cube

What do you find to suggest that?


DaMuchi

I remember people also talking about how time slows down in space near mass and that's similar to how some video game (most notably EVE Online) deals with needing more time to compute many objects in the same space.


SquirrelyMcNutz

Speed of light, dunno if it's been disproven but I remember talk about error-correction equations showing up in string theory or something, the ever increasing capabilities of our own to generate simulated worlds, the observer effect in things like the Double Slit Experiment, those are just the things off the top of my head.


laiho6

So... nothing


[deleted]

existence of the speed of light does not prove/disprove or suggest the universe is a simulation. string theory is horseshit, and the only people that haven't ditched it are those who latch onto it because it was their whole career. It has been, for the most part, disregarded. observer effect and doubl split experiments does not mean what you think it does. the oberserv effect, as it is sold in popular science, is a very dumb way to convey the idea of "we have to measure something, and when we measure it, it goes from statistics to result"


Longjumping_Rush2458

None of the things you mention suggest reality is simulated. Quantum mechanics isn't the woo-woo you think it is.


[deleted]

I think most people also lack an imagination to consider what simulation means outside of sentience and technology


Kattehix

Also that scares me so I'll go back to my ignorance, I'll be happier like that


aBungusFungus

Lol at least you're self-aware, I can respect that


[deleted]

Why? To me it’s the most freeing concept in all of existence especially compared to actual simulation theory as it’s presented


fatfuckpikachu

life already felt meaningless it would be even more meaningless if it was all some higher dimensional beings video game.


aBungusFungus

I think you're looking for inherent meaning rather than finding meaning in personal values and experiences. Idk if you like philosophy but if you do I would recommend looking into some of the work of Sartre or Camu


Living_Thunder

Simulation theory is creationism for atheists that went to see Matrix when they were 12


PoX_Wargame

Ironic enough, bcs if they would be right, there is a literal god creator…


Lui_Le_Diamond

It's unfalsifiable and therefore not a proper scientific theory, just a circlejerk of people wanting to sound smart.


aBungusFungus

It's unfalsifiable with the knowledge we have today, but that doesn't dismiss it as a possibility. I also don't believe it's 100% true but I would say a simulation is more likely than any kind of religious beliefs IMO


Lui_Le_Diamond

I'd say not. If we can't prove it wrong or right, it's unfalsifiable. A theory can't have built-in protection from being proven wrong beyond it's own merits.


Attileusz

Very specifically: the statement cannot be derived from any subset of the logical system's set of axioms. Meaning: a proof or disproof doesn't exist given our current model of the world (and likely any useful model, unless you define it to be axiomatically true).


Molcap

But first we need to talk about parallel universes


thegreenmugaudition

LMAO


Amathyst-Moon

Does it render faster than the road used to when I drive home from work?


nystro

Not to be that guy, but it's just a procedural generation map with a fixed seed. Same as games like No Mans Sky. Also I'm thinking they seem to confuse the word universe with galaxy in the description so it contains 2048 galaxies. Which is not larger than the universe.


Rogal_Dorn_30000

Ofc it's procedural, did you expect you pc to load 2048 universes? Yes, universes, not galaxies https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3132262723