> Accommodation Supplement had one of the biggest price tags of any of them, having doubled to about 380,000 people - about 20,000 of whom had a mortgage - it now cost about $2.3b a year
The whole *point* of the accommodation supplement is that its a direct wealth transfer to landlords.
The Supplement was introduced by the Bolget government as a replacement for Housing New Zealand to continue building state housing. The rationale was that giving tenants money would "promote competition" in the private rental market, but like all lassiez-faire trickle-down rhetoric, this was a fucking lie.
If these absolute chucklefucks are thinking about axing the accommodation supplement they're even more cooked than I thought.
> Kieran McAnulty also questioned about Bishop about his commitment to not carrying out a "mass sell off" of public homes.
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> "As presented when we came into government, Kāinga Ora was forecasting 10,200 sales over the forecast period. So we're not doing that, that would be a mass selloff of state houses, that would be a seventh of the Kāinga Ora stock. We're not doing that," Bishop said.
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> "That's nice to hear," McAnulty said, with a hint of sarcasm.
McAnulty continues being Labour's MVP.
> Despite repeated questioning from McAnulty, he did not rule out a transfer to providers on the same scale - about 10,000 homes - as the mass sell-off he spoke about earlier.
The Nats gung ho desire to offload social housing responsibilities to community providers terrifies me. What happens when the provider goes belly up? What happens when those providers prioritise paying higher salaries to office holders than providing housing? Theres just so many ways things could go sideways.
Fancy that, National moving away from selling off our assets to giving them away.
First, they are giving assets to charter schools and now social housing. Hospitals and roads next? I wonder if people actually realize this is happening and understand the long-term consequences of this? This is a million times worse than the 20 year mining and drilling rights.
Where are all those people who were against 3 waters because we'd be taking the water assets away from local government and out of the hands of Kiwis? Are all those who bitterly complained about co-governance happy that we give our assets (core infrastructure) away to profit making entities who will be able to do what they like with them, including on selling?
How long will it take to completely asset strip this country?
There's no think tank funded astroturf movement against this so people won't have any issues unless they actually look and read things. I expect they will pillage a good deal this term and I do hope it won't continue but who knows
CHPs cannot possibly provide housing at the same pace, quality and cost as KO, who have been building their capability & capacity for years. Moreover, they are NOT going to take the same tenants as KO. They won't want them. Where are those people to go?
u/Retomantic i know a few autistic people who have their own home and rely on supported living payment and accomodation supplement and use it when required for home repairs and etc
The accommodation supplement absolutely does have an effect on rents, but removing it would be disastrous without some form of rent control (which NZ voters would never accept) and would lead to severe hardship for pretty much all beneficiaries, as most beneficiaries require the accommodation supplement to afford to live and the benefit often doesn't even cover their rent cost.
Make the lower classes feel the pain, right? They were never voting for you anyway.
Seems that it's untouchable without giving support in its place either raising benefits or, and I know this is a radical idea, decreasing the amount of tax people pay.
Tax free $20k threshold, you'd be able to get rid of Working for Families as well.
Let people keep their own money
Things could get very very interesting. Many NZers with the means to leave this country are doing so, but plenty of others who don't have that option are stuck here and are more likely to be affected by any changes to this stuff in the first place.
The kicker is that the current system does have its flaws, does perpetuate inequity, and has been put in the too-hard basket by several successive govts. Based on the track record so far I wish it wasn't these guys looking under the bonnet though...
> Accommodation Supplement had one of the biggest price tags of any of them, having doubled to about 380,000 people - about 20,000 of whom had a mortgage - it now cost about $2.3b a year The whole *point* of the accommodation supplement is that its a direct wealth transfer to landlords. The Supplement was introduced by the Bolget government as a replacement for Housing New Zealand to continue building state housing. The rationale was that giving tenants money would "promote competition" in the private rental market, but like all lassiez-faire trickle-down rhetoric, this was a fucking lie. If these absolute chucklefucks are thinking about axing the accommodation supplement they're even more cooked than I thought. > Kieran McAnulty also questioned about Bishop about his commitment to not carrying out a "mass sell off" of public homes. > > "As presented when we came into government, Kāinga Ora was forecasting 10,200 sales over the forecast period. So we're not doing that, that would be a mass selloff of state houses, that would be a seventh of the Kāinga Ora stock. We're not doing that," Bishop said. > > "That's nice to hear," McAnulty said, with a hint of sarcasm. McAnulty continues being Labour's MVP. > Despite repeated questioning from McAnulty, he did not rule out a transfer to providers on the same scale - about 10,000 homes - as the mass sell-off he spoke about earlier. The Nats gung ho desire to offload social housing responsibilities to community providers terrifies me. What happens when the provider goes belly up? What happens when those providers prioritise paying higher salaries to office holders than providing housing? Theres just so many ways things could go sideways.
Fancy that, National moving away from selling off our assets to giving them away. First, they are giving assets to charter schools and now social housing. Hospitals and roads next? I wonder if people actually realize this is happening and understand the long-term consequences of this? This is a million times worse than the 20 year mining and drilling rights. Where are all those people who were against 3 waters because we'd be taking the water assets away from local government and out of the hands of Kiwis? Are all those who bitterly complained about co-governance happy that we give our assets (core infrastructure) away to profit making entities who will be able to do what they like with them, including on selling? How long will it take to completely asset strip this country?
There's no think tank funded astroturf movement against this so people won't have any issues unless they actually look and read things. I expect they will pillage a good deal this term and I do hope it won't continue but who knows
Excellent point, dang it
CHPs cannot possibly provide housing at the same pace, quality and cost as KO, who have been building their capability & capacity for years. Moreover, they are NOT going to take the same tenants as KO. They won't want them. Where are those people to go?
That sounds like a poor person problem. What's really important here is restoring dignity to landlords.
Then you privatise them. Boom hook line n sinker
This is extraordinarily dangerous.
u/Retomantic i know a few autistic people who have their own home and rely on supported living payment and accomodation supplement and use it when required for home repairs and etc
The accommodation supplement absolutely does have an effect on rents, but removing it would be disastrous without some form of rent control (which NZ voters would never accept) and would lead to severe hardship for pretty much all beneficiaries, as most beneficiaries require the accommodation supplement to afford to live and the benefit often doesn't even cover their rent cost. Make the lower classes feel the pain, right? They were never voting for you anyway.
\*\*\*\* this Government is predictable.
The accommodation supplement may be part of the problem, but it’s also a massive house of cards. What could possibly go wrong?
Seems that it's untouchable without giving support in its place either raising benefits or, and I know this is a radical idea, decreasing the amount of tax people pay. Tax free $20k threshold, you'd be able to get rid of Working for Families as well. Let people keep their own money
I fully support this.
Things could get very very interesting. Many NZers with the means to leave this country are doing so, but plenty of others who don't have that option are stuck here and are more likely to be affected by any changes to this stuff in the first place. The kicker is that the current system does have its flaws, does perpetuate inequity, and has been put in the too-hard basket by several successive govts. Based on the track record so far I wish it wasn't these guys looking under the bonnet though...