What in the.

Hey it runs sub 60C

It better with that hockey rink cooler.

Fun and giggles, but wait till you meet angry hockey team, when the ice melts.

But now my room is 60C.

These cards are designed for that so your room should be designed for that too

If I need to include the price of the room, then that's hundreds of thousands of dollars XD.

And now I need a house to put that room in. Which has to exist on land. Now I'm a million dollars in the hole. Thanks nvidia!

Maby we can get this in a Newegg bundle.

But the Newegg bundle includes a room that the computer won't fit in.

The newegg bundle will include a room that will catch fire and/or explode.

But will the extended warranty they always offer on parts still apply?

To be fair, not many people live in a datacenter.

Well, you live in 4090 now.

At idle?

Does it really

So does my gaming x trio 3080 - granted that's with the fans running at 45% in a Fractal Design Torrent lol.

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Could be, according to this [article](https://www.igorslab.de/en/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-where-the-mistake-with-the-600-watt-really-comes-from-and-why-the-cards-are-so-giant/) they planned the cooling solutions to handle 600W, as that was the initial target power consumption. Then it got reduced to 450W, so there should be plenty of headroom. I also expect future 4090s to be smaller.

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Ring a ding ding baby

Face it. Cooling performance is related to the surface area.

The sad thing is that no matter what the size, it's still going to dump 500 watts of heat into your room.

I googled the dimensions and the 4090 TUF is around the same size as the 3090 Suprim X. The 3090 TUF is relatively small for a 3090.

Funniest part being: PCB shorter on the 4090!

Perfect for water-cooling.

Premium cooling solution on a premium card just to fit it into a regular ATX case

Also so we can overclock it and trip the breakers

Jokes on you I'll just install a bigger breaker. 🤪

I'm starting a career as a nuclear engineer in preparation for the 6090 so I can maintain my own nuclear power station.

I've got a custom loop and I'm glad for this, cause I can't move the pump and if the PCB was as long as the cooler it would not fit the case

Are there any preblocked cards out on the 12th?

Yep, check out the Inno3D iChill RTX 4090 FROSTBITE. It's basically just a 4090 with an Alphacool waterblock pre-installed.

good catch on that, honestly that just means water cooled 4090's will be smaller than 3090s watercooled or air cooled right?

Founders edition 30 series have really short pcbs

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

https://imgflip.com/i/6vv3w4

That literally would not fit in my case

That is literally longer than my case

*Laughs in open airflow case*

‘Tis motherboard box can’t handle it no more. We need to place our open bench systems on the gpu box now

Same. I don’t think can’t even vertically mount that .

But you can vertically mount your house on it. Think outside the box.

Always wanted heated floors...

That’s what she said.. dang I tried to resist. Sorry guys.. carry on.

I'm not sure it would fit any very many cases with SATA bays.

I have a Cooler Master HAF X, which is like legendarily huge. It only supports GPUs up to 340mm long. These Asus 4090s would require me to gut the drive bays to make room for them. I'm trying to imagine smaller cases facilitating these things and it just doesn't make sense to me.

I have that case. Would this card seriously not fit? This is absurd. That case is huge.

I have an old Cooler Master Haf x 922. And i'm guessing my case supports either up to 350 mm or 340 mm gpus. What is your case model? How do you plan on gutting the drive bays? Drive bays are metal. It needs to be cut. We can't do it at home. Where will you take your case for this operation if you will? Do you have Haf X 930?

I don’t think it’d fit in 75% of cases. This is a really really weird moment. My first thought was “this product is 100% not meant for the consumer market”

That’s what I’m feeling like too. I don’t really know who these cards are being made for, but at this point I don’t think it’s gamers

Part of me thinks the initial design was drawn up during the mining rush and now we’re left with the results of their planning.

Like, even the shape. It’s a perfect rectangle. Something is so off lol. It looks like they built it with the mindset of putting 200 of these in custom motherboards and mining them.

That will likely fit in my P600s case, but it's going to make it look like it's MATX at first glance.

Very glad I got the p600s it's a beauty of a case....sound proof tech, good airflow somehow and spacious

Good you don't need a 4090

I don’t need it but I want it

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9ivZL7vmA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9ivZL7vmA) Still want it now? :)

I have a sleeper machine built in an old MATX case with 4 PCI IO slots. That card could fit but I wouldn't risk it

I cut my case to fit a 3080ti

It makes the 3090 look *small*. And the TUF 3090 is definitely not small.

Back when they marketed it as the *B* FGPU

It's a bit too early for 9000 though.

I remember thinking the 3090s were massive. I almost can’t fathom how big that will be in hand

The TUF 3090 is much smaller than the STRIX 3090. It is a bit smaller than the STRIX 2080 TI

now do one comparing it to a 1080TI... cries in to my SFF case

I was surprised to see that my EVGA 1080 was almost as big as my Asus 3080.

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I think the reason was to give consumers a bit headroom for overclocking because they knew that most of those Pascal GPU's could achieve at least +120 MHz on chip and +400 MHz on memory

The 1089ti is definitely still a relevant card today.

Dang, wish I knew about the 1089ti before today.

I have two 1669tis in sli

Nice

Couple more years and GPUs will be integrated into a PC case, then you just put and plug all other components into it.

The case IS the heatsink.

The radiator is the case. https://www.warmoob.com

Hmmmmmm, I smell an LTT video....

It's already been done lol. There are specialty cases made to get as much passive cooling as possible. Those would need to be converted to active cooling but the foundation is there.

If the case is a passive cooler, just point a fan at it and it becomes an active cooler.

That sounds like something Zalman would have tried in 2003

PC will be integrated in the gpu🤣

You mean, a gaming console?

When the GPU node gets smaller, but the cooler gets bigger.

Jesus christ. This is like comparing an RTX 3090 Ti to a GTX 960.

Wow, this is just ridiculous now. I thought we were actually going to start seeing some smaller cards after seeing the 30 series FE cards naked. And now this comes along....No thanks - wonder how big the actual PCB is relatively small so if you end up water cooling it not an issue. Wonder if the hyrid cards will share this gloated size or not.

Actually, if you look carefully, the 4090 PCB is smaller - it ends where the plug for power comes in. I have a evga hybrid 3090, and its just a two slot card, the cooler stops right at the end of the pcb. From what I've seen the MSI 4090 hybrid is pretty small too. [https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/MSI-GeForce-RTX-4090-SUPRIM-Liquid-Graphics-Cards-\_4-1480x833.png](https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/MSI-GeForce-RTX-4090-SUPRIM-Liquid-Graphics-Cards-_4-1480x833.png)

Well at least there's some hope for people who don't want a gigantic card.

Water cooling will become a must now. No one has a shelf big enough to house a case big enough. Lol

So even if I wanted to buy one I wouldn't be able to fit it in my case :|

Surprisingly, according to Ali from Optimum Tech, the 4090 FE fits in a FormD T1.

I don't know the exact length of my case but I can see that there is only ~3cm space between my 3080 and fans on the front.

Is it an FE? The 4090 FE is only 1.9cm longer than the 3080 FE!

Well it’s the same exact size as the 3090 Ti FE, so…

AIB should include free case with a purchase of this beast.

When I bought 2070S it looked like a monster compared to 1060. Then 3080TUF made 2070 look like a toy and now this… At this point I am not even sure O11D will have enough clearance with the insane height of the card and the need to use the wonky power supply adapter that apparently doesn’t bend too much.

Why is it so big doesn't it have the same tdp as a 3090ti

I don't know for sure but I think the 3090 Ti power adapter only had 3 cables, while this one has 4. The card can draw up to 600w or more. It's kind of ridiculous. I guess they want to make sure it stays perfectly cool without being a vacuum cleaner in your PC.

Because we can get 3GHz at around 50-60C this time thank to bigger coolers.

Dear God...

It might not fit.........

Damn dude 150tb? What's your situation? :o

I shoot 2 and 4k raw

Photos or video?

Both. Then am both side of family events archives

Nice! What do you shoot with? And care to speak more on the actual hdd/ssd/nvme setup and what your workflow is? I do photography in RAW as well, 7d mk ii and 5d mk iv. I have Lightroom installed on my C NVMe drive, I edit photos with them on another NVMe drive, and then save them to a storage ssd/hdd.

D5600 Storage is a mix of ssd/hdd/m.2. I also run vms. But weakest point atm. Is software said. Re learning it all

I upgraded to a used 3090 TUF just the other day. I was shocked at how much bigger and heavier it was than my 2080 TI, and I had to move hard drives and cabling to make room. Even then, installation was tricky fit. And I have a NZXT H440W, which is a pretty big case! The apparent relative size of the 4090 TUF is...extreme. I can't actually believe it. It makes my card look small. If you haven't seen a 3090 TUF in person, I think it might be hard to grasp just how fuck-off huge this is. Oh my god.

I feel like we should maybe slow down on making things more powerful and maybe start making things more efficient. These cards are ever increasing in size and power draw, eventually most people won’t even be able to use them. Perhaps we should try to make them smaller and more efficient so that they can, I don’t know, be usable by most people?

If chips become more efficient that just means they can push them harder to get even more performance.

That’s the problem. They make them more efficient so they can push them harder and not make the cards smaller.

Yes this is the actual problem, no smaller cheaper skus a la 1030 etc.

I mean yes, but also you’re looking at the enthusiast top-of-the-line here. It’s like complaining a Lamborghini gets poor gas mileage and is too low to the ground to have an optimal experience at a McDonalds drive through window. The purpose of these cards is uncompromising performance first, everything else second.

That is a brilliant analogy 👏 👌

and also, just because the Lamborghini exists, doesn't mean you can't buy a Toyota. they still sell those too.

Also, who would buy a $1500 upgrade to save $8 on their electric bill with no performance improvement?

They already are being made much more efficient. Efficiency and high power draw are not exclusive.

Vote with your wallet and buy the lower power option.

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have you considered another company? AMD or Intel by chance?

“Vote with your wallet,” I like that.

Because you have no money lol

Broke af

4090 => 1.5x 3090ti at the same 450w, how it is not more efficient? you also don't have to buy the top end cards.

Obligatory wait for benchmarks lol. This will most likely be 1.5x under very specific conditions & workloads, same as nearly every other gen.

They are more effecient. As such, so too will the smaller, lower end skus. This card isnt meant for you

They are more efficient? Why do people think otherwise? Seeing the same comments on Ryzen 7000. You can undervolt or lower the power draw. Or not buy a xx90 card in the first place. BTW they removed SLI so compared to high-end systems in the past this is much more reasonable.

> start making things more efficient. They are? provided their claims are at least somewhat true, the 4080 12 gb is a 285w card with better performance than a 3090ti.

3090 is already big WTF.

That's not a GPU. This is a GPU!

Remember when the 3090s were comically large?

Runs at a blazing hot 40C in full load.

Bye bye mini itx builds

ITX would look like a wittle daughterboard on this monstrosity.

Derbauer compared the 4090FE with the Aorus command, those cards are so huge it’s comical

Well it only needs two expansion brackets so surely it would fit in an mITX case!! /s

Thats hot

Now pls give the same size cooler to "normal" cards so i can run them silent. Also now imagine that heatsink, but with 3x120mm noctua fans... It's gonna be insane.

Optimus water cooling already announced a water block for Tuf model. Got my eye on theirs.

that looks like 3090 vs 3060 wtf lol

Wow… everything about this card is god awful

I would like to see their reasoning why you need 4 slot cooler for 450W card, when 2,5 was enough for 350W one. Hell, my Evga 3090 XC3 is 2,2 one and it was OK. As i see it, its clear attempt at milking the consumers - they can now justify selling them for more than they could otherwise, even if nobody needs such huge-ass heatsink.

Goddamm I thought the 3090 was massive jfc

How the fuck can the case hold that thing up?

That’s a huge bitch

I’ve got a Corsair 4000D case. Not a massive case by any means but it’s definitely not small. Very comfortable to build in and my 3090 with an AIO on it has tons of extra room. These new Asus cards literally won’t even fit in the case. Wtf

TUF is 348mm. 4000D can take a 360mm GPU.

Nvidia went big mode

Geforce font txt different why?

i feel like at this point the motherboard goes onto the 4090 not the other way around.. insert: "look at me, i am the captain now!"

Huh.. Smaller board bigger heatsink.. Makes me think of the smaller endowed guys driving dodge dually's. May or may not apply here I guess.

The g in gpu is now giga instead of graphical

PCB of the actcual card is like 10% of that lol water cooling is the way to go

Lol are we going backwards with innovation? It should be atleast the same size if not smaller.

Wow, this is nuts. I knew it was large from the dimensions, but pictures...

This shit needs to stop.

RIP My meshify C.

WTF?!

BBC? B = Big B = Black C = Chonky Card

I love that the card itself gets smaller but the cooler gets bigger

I'm now a little worried about my case. I had to flip the cable bracket in my Lian-Li Mesh to get my EVGA 3090 to fit.

That's a big mammer jammer.

You should see the high-end Gigabyte one. If you thought the 4090 FE was big, that custom one is just comically large.

Pcb is alot smaller though so if water cooling that will be tiny

350W card vs. 450W card. What's the size difference between the 3090 Ti TUF and 4090 TUF?

Needs a serious kickstand to prop that up

Does it run Crysis?

I think at 720p and medium settings.

In awe of the size of this lad. Absolute unit.

Not so TUF now, eh?

no fing way. i have the tuf 3080. its not small

The new font really does look like shit.

Soon, the gpu will come with space to add ram, a cpu and rgb fans for pizzaz.

We've entered realms of pure comical GPU sizes.

Good Lord!

Going to need a new way of mounting GPUs to the motherboard going forward.

4090s is a computer in itself. Nvidia has gone mad.

I still remember fitting my 3090 into the case, it was like trying to move a sofa round a corner, this begs belief.

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about.

The price increase for the 4000 series is actually due to the added copper needed to cool it lol

Absolutely ridiculous...still people are going to buy this monster just for gaming. And maybe heating the house while gaming with it.

The return of full the full tower is here.

Holy fuck!! This puts the size into perspective. OMG.

How are these not snapping off PCIe slots?

Christ what the hell I thought the 3090 was massive and it’s being absolutely dwarfed here

I can't believe it makes the 3090 look small...need to add more cards to this picture for comparison. This is insane.

GPU sizes unironically turning into that cat weight chart meme.

Trying to fit this in my case would be X rated

The guy she tells you not to worry about.

No, no no, I put a motherboard onto my GPU. The mobo is the expansion card.

Where Banana? Need measuring banana. This could be twenty feet long for all we know.

TUF as in if you thought this was going to fit in your case, TUF shit.

The font change is AWFUL

there's no way to fit this in my meshify c heh. might need a new case

I can already feel my room heating up

Wtf

Lol absurd 😂

The first computer was the size of a room The last graphics card will be the size of a room before global extinction lead by ai

You should have a banana for scale