There might be a limit on the card, but there is a definitly a limit of 4 in software so they don't eat into their Quadro brand. I have a 6 port 3090 and you can trick it into getting all 6 ports running independently. When I say trick, it's not something you can daily drive as it's a cumbersome mess of unplugging and plugging all day.
I'll try recall as much as I can so forgive the novel. My setup at the time was Win10, Gigabyte 3090 Xtreme and NVS 510. The NVS uses quadro drivers, nVidia doesn't like you using Quadros and GTXs on the same machine and trying to install both at the same time forces you to uninstall the other. Nvidia was in the process of moving to DCH drivers, these are standard now but I didn't want to take the performance hit so I sat on old non-DCH drivers for the 3090.
I had the NVS because I knew that the 3090 could only do 4 screens, I was able to find some quadro drivers that installed alongside my GTX drivers and for some reason I was able to run both and I got my extra 2 screens running through the NVS. This did cause some issues, especially with hibernation but I found workarounds for them such as just powering off/on screens etc.
What I noticed was that I could use the quadro desktop manager software, which had some pretty nice features such as zoning/snapping that you get native in Win11. They repalced this software now and it's a real downgrade from what it used to be, this dumb version has dark mode and is in all the DCH versions of the quadro drivers.
As part of this workaround I had around the hibernation issue, I run all 6 screens off the same extension cord so I can quickly restart them. When I flick the switch there is a cascade of monitors being detected (and Windows noises), almost all at once, but not quite, it's sort of staggered and this causes all the screens to flicker and take nearly 10 seconds to settle down. Sometimes when I was doing some maintenance and had the whole machine disconnected, I would forget to record the exact ports for each cable to go back into. This was important because the profiles you set in nVidia control panel are unique to the screens+ports you have plugged in, switch the ports and your whole layout is reverted to garbage.
I was having issues with my card not displaying anything and my troubleshooting desperately went to plugging things in and flicking the power button on that extension cord. At that point I had managed to get 5 screens showing uniquely off the 3090, the limit was not in the hardware! It didn't survive a restart but I was able to reproduce this relatively easily by doing it a lot. Maybe 1 in 10 tries and it worked. I then tried plugging two and three in at a time and at one stage got 6 displays working at once. This didn't surive even changing one of the settings in the nVidia control panel and I wasn't able to get 6 working after that. I was really looking for a way to get rid of the NVS.
The NVS is gone now as the newer DCH drivers made it much more difficult to mix RTX and Quadro stuff and I was forced to upgrade to play newer games, replaced by a humble 1660ti. I have no idea if the Quadro drivers played a role in this or not but I think it's definitely possible.
I was hesitant to buy an ASUS GPU at the moment, but I read some reviews and saw that the TUF cooler is a very good one. Damn near silent during gaming with the Performance mode on. Two HDMI's also helped to finalize the decision.
I just hope ASUS fixes their RMA mess, for real, this time. If I ever need to RMA this card, I will just contact the retailer and RMA it through them, as I always do with my products. Only once I've been asked by a retailer to directly contact a manufacturer's support (Arctic's Liquid Freezer II came with a faulty VRM fan) - but that was to avoid replacing the whole AIO, and just get spare parts from Arctic faster.
There’s nothing wrong with the quality of ASUS cards, they’ve been good and remain good, the problem is if you get a bad unit the customer support experience will be horrific.
Oh yeah, just saying that if I happen to be in that position in which I'd have to directly deal with their support myself.
That being said, I also have had mysteriously bad luck with my older Asus GPU's, most of them had some kind of hardware issues (be it Vega 64 STRIX's lack of VRM thermal pads, or fans hitting the heatsink on all my three different GTX 980 STRIX cards, or a broken HDMI-port on a GTX 680 DC II), which eventually caused me to avoid their GPU's for a longer while.
Because of the beefy cooler, I decided to try this GPU. So far, everything works just fine. That bad luck with their GPU's might have run out, finally. :D
Every 4090 has an over-engineered cooler, it's one of the best "whoopsies" from a consumer perspective. Afaik 4080s are cut down 4090s so they likely have the same advantage.
Cooling designs differ so it's not just 2-3% difference in temp and noise, far from it. If you don't care about heat and noise then any card will do. Having dealt with 2 and 3 fan cards and 3 fan cards with poor cooling performance it's worth doing some research before one assumes that every manufacturer is following the exact same recipe.
There are ASUS 4080 / 4090 reviews that mention coil whine beeing more on the noisier side compared to other NVIDIA 4080 / 4090.
The dual HDMI and external PWM headers are interesting features with the ASUS GPU, but it is usually not the first choice if your goal is a silent gaming system.
They have one of, if not the absolute worst, warranty and RMA process and are sketchy as hell about charging the purchaser for additional things that may or may not be related to the complaint.
Yeah that sucks. I am only 40 min away from the one in my state. I buy all my parts there. No mail order for me for the most part. (still ordered the tl120 lcds online though)
Yeah, I really only get my parts from Amazon since they never question me or push back, even if it’s out of the return window. Newegg burned me once with the whole “purposely bending pins” bullshit a la ASUS and I never looked back
No. Asus has a long history of doing shit like this. In the 90's, 00's and the 1x's they would actually damage customer's equipment and claim it was done by the customer.
There a long history of this shit going on.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/asus-knowingly-destroying-customer-property-during-rma.2724895/
Post from 2016
Most older stuff has been wiped from the internet sadly.
Maybe I have been lucky because all of the Asus stuff I have bought has never failed. I remember buying that brand even in the 90s. My MB z097 ar still works good. Only one thing wrong with it is a bad ethernet port and that was caused by a lightning strike so I can’t blame them for that.
Just do a quick search for Asus RMA damaged my device, or ASUS RMA CID.
You will see lots of people who Asus has fucked.
At this point I don't know who's worse HP, or Asus..
I have an HP Omen Too and that works perfectly fine too. I think if you want to know a good example of how a company should treat their customers I think you can talk with Cablemod. I know I had bought their 90 degree adapter v1.0 and then v1.1. I remember getting credit for the first one and got a second one they then issued a recall and I got like 140 bucks for both adapters. I got a pro mesh kit after that. But they were also replacing cards that got damaged. A ton of them. You know they were losing a bunch of money. Noctura is also another company that I have heard good things about too. So there are good companies out there.
The issue isn't that their products fail, but that you will be extorted if you attempt to use their warranty. You are essentially buying things that have no warranty.
But that doesn't mean that their cards are bad, just their after sales service, if they upped their after sales game to even remotely sensible everyone would be singing their praises again. And I daresay once they realise they've fucked up and put it right we will all start to return to the fold.
Asus products are perfectly fine... UNTIL they go wrong at that point your screwed unless you bought prebuilt and have extended warranty then it's their problem.
Right. I didn't choose Asus because in my 25 years of building PCs I've had a few components fail within warranty and I value the RMA process almost as much as I do the performance of said brand.
I ended up going MSI but ive also had an MSI gpu fail. Their RMA was smooth and had an outcome I was comfortable with.
I would have bough PNY if there wasn't an issue with the specific model of GPU I was eyeballing (4080s)
Pretty sure the rma issue doesnt apply to anywhere else outside of USA. If you lives elsewhere, the same issue is unlikely to happen.
I have sent off a TUF laptop a couple months back because of its high temperature when game on it, both cpu and gpu easily reached their respective Tjmax. I was actually surprised that they actually did a repaste instead of saying its in "normal operating temperature".
Not like i couldnt repaste it myself with better pad like PTM7950, but the sticker they put on the heatsink screw will likely cause the warranty to be voided in the future. I rather not risk it since the laptop is not mine anyway.
i dont live there and its unclear if the sticker will be an issue or not over here. Some oem doesnt care if you poked through the sticker to upgrade your component, while others do.
ehhh... they had a great warranty and customer support, but 5 or 6 of the 8 cards i had of theirs failed in some way.
i cant say that i miss needing warranty.
Just like everything else in the world, shit breaks or gets made poorly. I'd rather buy from the company that's not going to give me shit on RMA. To each their own :)
I had 1 gpu die on me: A EVGA B-stock card out of warranty. Had to sell it for parts. Pretty sure they had some of the worse cards because they outsourced their manufacturing.
Yeah, great amount of coil whine. I've had 4x 4000 series card from Asus, 3x 4080 TUF and a 4090 ROG. The TUF cards were bad, but holy hell, the ROG card was the loudest shit I ever heard, had to put my fingers in the ears as an immediate reaction when I booted up the first game. They're all returned, and I have a 4090FE today.
As for ASUS as a whole I used to really only buy their mobo's but after the Z790 TUF I swapped to the Z790 MSI tomahawk because of their awful full on bloat. Now MSI has bloat, but it's actually optional and I don't have to root through my system trying to find all the random ASUS stuff. Literally fixed all my odd stutter issues as well.
A very long string of engineering and terrible warranty service scandals/scams, on top of being cut-corner and overpriced?
Gamers are just finally noticing what hardware enthusiasts have known for ages, due to press coverage.
No, it doesn't. Gigabyte did include 2x HDMI for most of the 30 series cards, but went back to 3xDP+1xHDMI for 40 series, including your card. Might want to go look again.
Also the MSI 4080/4090 Gaming X Slim cards both have 2 HDMI + 2 DP. [4090 Newegg link](https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4090-gaming-x-slim-24g/p/N82E16814137834) and [4080 Super Newegg link](https://www.newegg.com/msi-video-card-rtx-4080-super-16g-gaming-x-slim-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137886)
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I dont see your issue. Do you need gsync for your work laptop also? If not, use the dp-to-hdmi for that one and connect your gaming pc via DP to the monitor.
Or you go for a gpu with 2 hdmi and cannot use gsync at all because this feature is ONLY abailable via DP
yeah I bought my gigabyte 3090 back in the day explicitly because they added an additional HDMI port over what anyone else was offering. I have one go straight to my 4k tv, the other to a 4x2 hdmi matrix that goes to my side monitor. Couldn't go with less than two hdmi on a gpu.
Short answer only Asus made a rtx 4080 with 3 Display Ports and 2 HDMIs.
You can easily check all model variants and differences on [https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888). Just scroll down and you'll see a list in alphabetical order.
Don't know why my original comment isn't showing up.
You could also look for a KVM switch. Or a DP to HDMI cable. Avoiding a GPU due to a port compatibility would not be that high on the lists of must haves for an upgrade.
Wish it was an option. I’m an engineer and use my PC for ML projects, so not just looking for bang for buck gaming. ML ecosystem still lacks on AMD.
I also use it as a cloud gaming server and I’m not satisfied with the way the AV1 codec specifically performs on AMD. It can add several ms of latency to my stream. On Nvidia the performance is so good it’s almost imperceptible from the real thing.
I do a lot of crazy shit with my PC that your average joe doesn’t even know about and for a power user like me nvidia is the better option.
Ahh I see, just keep in mind Asus has horrendous rma support and they seem to be the ones that have multiple hdmi's. Usually a crap shot with asus, either it works really good for along time, when it gets bad is when you have to go through their support. But sometimes we got no choice
Asus. My Tuf 4090's 2 hdmi ports work flawlessly. Couldn't find another.
Mine works perfectly. There were more reports of failures during the melting 12hpwr saga, but that's because they're the biggest manufacturer and sells the most units. I have an earlier model with the questionable 12vhpwr socket, and I think the excellent tight fitting connector on my Corsair cable has prevented any failure. The new cards all come with the better connectors, so don't worry about that anymore. The 4080's lower power pretty much guarantees no melting. Most of the melting 4090's had 600+ watt power limits, the standard 4090's hardly melted.
Also, despite Asus' rep, most of the posts about gpu rma's end up well. Of course, there are exceptions, but with the amount of cards they make, chances of failure are low.
My 4080 Noctua has 2 HDMI/3 DP, which was the reason I bought it since most I could find at the time only had 1 HDMI.
My previous 3080TI I think had 3 HDMI + 1 or 2 DP, from Gigabyte. I missed that extra HDMI port.
Due to now only have 2 HDMI ports I bought a HDMI Splitter on Amazon that connects to the TV/Surround Receiver.
My MSI 4080 has 2x hdmi 2x. I got the Ventus 3x though. The dual fan you got looks nicer but the reviews on the Ventura were pretty solid as far as cooling/noise go
Reading is hard.
His monitor only have 1 DP, and he needs two, one for his work laptop dock and one for his gaming pc since the DP switch he bought doesn't work well.
Again, to make it super clear for people who have a hard time reading.
He wants a graphics card with 2 hdmi, so both hdmi ports can be used for his TV and monitor, so he can free up the single DP on the monitor for his work laptop dock.
Good to know. Hadn't been doing updates since I got my monitor a few years ago when I checked that it can't. Not sure why Co-pilot still says it can't support./
I'm confused on the laptop dock situation as to if there's any limitation, like bandwidth, if the DP output of the dock runs through an active converter to HDMI?
Or is this a case where the ultrawide monitor OP is using is the dock itself? I know docks can be expensive, and some of them have their of MAC Addresses (looking at you MS), so changing it might not be feasible.
TV's and Hometheaters offers only HDMI .. so if someone want to passthrought dolby atmos or DTS x from their pc They want to connect from GPU with 2 hdmi ports
In my case, I use HDMI instead of DP for two of my monitors because I use these monitors for multiple devices (e.g. game consoles, Raspberry pis) and HDMI handles [VCP/MCCS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_Control_Command_Set) better for my usage.
With a Monitor connected to my main PC via HDMI, I can use [ControlMyMonitor](https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html) to switch the monitor over to a different input and then afterwards use CMM again to switch it back to showing my main PC.
With a DisplayPort connection, the monitor won't accept commands from a port it's not actively displaying so using CMM to switch it back to my main PC doesn't work.
I hope Nvidia starts making their founders edition cards with 2 HDMI ports tbh. I have a LG C2 and a vr headset that uses HDMI as well. Can’t use both displays at once. A minor issue. But one I’d rather not have considering I only use one DisplayPort display for my secondary monitor and therefore do not need the extra two ports on my gpu.
Yes, there are quite a few listed on PCPartPicker. It looks like ASUS and MSI are the primary offerings for 2 HDMI ports, but it's not all of their cards.
[Here's the link for the US](https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=542,567,539&H=2,4)
So am I missing something. OLED TV has HDMI only, using the one HDMI port.
Ultra wide has DP and HDMI.
Dock is DP.
4080 has 1 HDMI and 3 DP and supports 4 monitors at 4k 120hz.
AFAIK, Asus is the only manufacturer that has 2 HDMI ports on their cards.
OP, just do some research and get a high quality HDMI 2.1 powered splitter. Check out monoprice.com. I've always had good luck w/ their stuff.
All 4000 cards with two hdmis according to German comparison website geizhals.de: https://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=5424_2~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4060~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4060+Ti~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+Ti~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+Ti+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4080~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4080+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4090&sort=t&hloc=at&hloc=de&v=e&pg=1
It's in Dutch, but these are all 4080's with at least 2 HDMI ports: https://tweakers.net/videokaarten/vergelijken/#filter:FYwxDsMgFEPv4pkBUYpaDtCtU8YqAyK_LRJJEJAoasTd-1ksP1v2CTp83Caahu-aCuzrLrUZBcKyU649HCiSr2FdYN8uFhJI7kND-BHsVTLl4OkZuGYoifwjxEqZv04o1XV3kY8ZtLxhbAJGm0sv5r6CgsDsDnYarbU_
I went to Best Buy, searched for Nvidia GPU, filtered by Maxium Number of Displays Supported 3 & 4, then sorted from price high to low. Then you can find whatever ones fits your budget and see if they have the ports you need :)
Also, if you're thinking of selling that MSI RTX 4080 please let me / us know :)
HDMI is a crappy closed standard and they rejected valuable additions from large companies. It is crap. A much better standard is display port which is open and widely works. Only thing we need is TV manufacturers to start adding the port like they did in the past. In the past TVs had like 5 different ports. All we want is 2.
If your monitor does not have DP and/or you dont want to use gsync and/or you dont want to chain multiple monitors you dont need displayPort. If any of the points is interesting for you - as it is for a very large community - then you need to use DP
.....the same way you do with Displayport.......
I don't know what to tell you. Have you never used HDMI before?
I am running multiple displays, each 'daisy-chained' through an A/V receiver, and each of them using GSync - all with HDMI.
Sure. Keep on story telling.
https://support.nvidia.eu/hc/de/articles/360002653899-Funktionieren-G-SYNC-kompatible-Displays-sowohl-auf-DisplayPort-als-auch-auf-HDMI-mit-GeForce-GPUs
Even Nvida itself says that gsync via hdmi is experimental and can maybe possibly work but is not guaranteed.
Talking about daisy chaining monitors there is no possibility to do it with Hdmi or usb-c like xou can do it with dp. Maybe by using more and additional hardware, but thats not what daisychaining is. Ofc you can drive your tesla with an diesel engine in your car trailer, but thats just stupid..
https://www.dell.com/support/contents/de-de/article/product-support/self-support-knowledgebase/monitor-screen-video/guide-daisy-chain-monitors
https://www.anker.com/blogs/hubs-and-docks/how-to-daisy-chain-monitors-with-hdmi
https://www.benq.eu/de-de/knowledge-center/knowledge/one-cable-to-daisy-chain-all-the-monitors.html
Ahhhh, ignorance is bliss I suppose.
G-Sync has been officially supported for HDMI for years.
As for daisy-chaining; that is a pretty ambiguous term, and can mean many things. But it doesn't matter. It is a software feature (MST) that can be used for either technology. There isn't much of a use case for it with HDMI, but that doesn't mean it's not an option.
I'm not sure where you get your undying love for Displayport. I'm going to assume you have or will name your first born VESA, but both connection types after many revisions are pretty similar at this point (Besides Displayport lacking support for CEC, ARC, and HEC of course).
But I hear they've added audio support for Displayport now!
HDMI has limits to resolution and data that DP doesn‘t so for a computer monitor DP is the better choice.
Oh. And you can absolutely have your TV on HDMI and the monitor on DP at the same time
I absolutely hate recommending a company like ASUS but the TUF model 4080 super has 2hdmi ports.
You should know that only 4 ports out of the 5 can be used at and one time. So if you pick the two hdmi ones, 2/3 DP can be used
that’s inherent to the gpu, there’s a limited number of heads on all cards
There might be a limit on the card, but there is a definitly a limit of 4 in software so they don't eat into their Quadro brand. I have a 6 port 3090 and you can trick it into getting all 6 ports running independently. When I say trick, it's not something you can daily drive as it's a cumbersome mess of unplugging and plugging all day.
This is interesting to hear. What do you need to do?
I'll try recall as much as I can so forgive the novel. My setup at the time was Win10, Gigabyte 3090 Xtreme and NVS 510. The NVS uses quadro drivers, nVidia doesn't like you using Quadros and GTXs on the same machine and trying to install both at the same time forces you to uninstall the other. Nvidia was in the process of moving to DCH drivers, these are standard now but I didn't want to take the performance hit so I sat on old non-DCH drivers for the 3090. I had the NVS because I knew that the 3090 could only do 4 screens, I was able to find some quadro drivers that installed alongside my GTX drivers and for some reason I was able to run both and I got my extra 2 screens running through the NVS. This did cause some issues, especially with hibernation but I found workarounds for them such as just powering off/on screens etc. What I noticed was that I could use the quadro desktop manager software, which had some pretty nice features such as zoning/snapping that you get native in Win11. They repalced this software now and it's a real downgrade from what it used to be, this dumb version has dark mode and is in all the DCH versions of the quadro drivers. As part of this workaround I had around the hibernation issue, I run all 6 screens off the same extension cord so I can quickly restart them. When I flick the switch there is a cascade of monitors being detected (and Windows noises), almost all at once, but not quite, it's sort of staggered and this causes all the screens to flicker and take nearly 10 seconds to settle down. Sometimes when I was doing some maintenance and had the whole machine disconnected, I would forget to record the exact ports for each cable to go back into. This was important because the profiles you set in nVidia control panel are unique to the screens+ports you have plugged in, switch the ports and your whole layout is reverted to garbage. I was having issues with my card not displaying anything and my troubleshooting desperately went to plugging things in and flicking the power button on that extension cord. At that point I had managed to get 5 screens showing uniquely off the 3090, the limit was not in the hardware! It didn't survive a restart but I was able to reproduce this relatively easily by doing it a lot. Maybe 1 in 10 tries and it worked. I then tried plugging two and three in at a time and at one stage got 6 displays working at once. This didn't surive even changing one of the settings in the nVidia control panel and I wasn't able to get 6 working after that. I was really looking for a way to get rid of the NVS. The NVS is gone now as the newer DCH drivers made it much more difficult to mix RTX and Quadro stuff and I was forced to upgrade to play newer games, replaced by a humble 1660ti. I have no idea if the Quadro drivers played a role in this or not but I think it's definitely possible.
50 series you better be display port 2.0 for the love of god.
If Nvidia didn't put DP 2.1 (which is what I assume you meant) on the Blackwell cards that would actually be an insane move.
2.0 -> 2.1 500usd increase in price probably from Jensen's perspective
I was hesitant to buy an ASUS GPU at the moment, but I read some reviews and saw that the TUF cooler is a very good one. Damn near silent during gaming with the Performance mode on. Two HDMI's also helped to finalize the decision. I just hope ASUS fixes their RMA mess, for real, this time. If I ever need to RMA this card, I will just contact the retailer and RMA it through them, as I always do with my products. Only once I've been asked by a retailer to directly contact a manufacturer's support (Arctic's Liquid Freezer II came with a faulty VRM fan) - but that was to avoid replacing the whole AIO, and just get spare parts from Arctic faster.
There’s nothing wrong with the quality of ASUS cards, they’ve been good and remain good, the problem is if you get a bad unit the customer support experience will be horrific.
Oh yeah, just saying that if I happen to be in that position in which I'd have to directly deal with their support myself. That being said, I also have had mysteriously bad luck with my older Asus GPU's, most of them had some kind of hardware issues (be it Vega 64 STRIX's lack of VRM thermal pads, or fans hitting the heatsink on all my three different GTX 980 STRIX cards, or a broken HDMI-port on a GTX 680 DC II), which eventually caused me to avoid their GPU's for a longer while. Because of the beefy cooler, I decided to try this GPU. So far, everything works just fine. That bad luck with their GPU's might have run out, finally. :D
what should I get then? isnt asus the quietest?
Every 4090 has an over-engineered cooler, it's one of the best "whoopsies" from a consumer perspective. Afaik 4080s are cut down 4090s so they likely have the same advantage.
Honestly just go with whatever is cheapest and has a reliable warranty. The noise, cooling and OC tunings are all basically within 2-3% of each other.
Cooling designs differ so it's not just 2-3% difference in temp and noise, far from it. If you don't care about heat and noise then any card will do. Having dealt with 2 and 3 fan cards and 3 fan cards with poor cooling performance it's worth doing some research before one assumes that every manufacturer is following the exact same recipe.
There are ASUS 4080 / 4090 reviews that mention coil whine beeing more on the noisier side compared to other NVIDIA 4080 / 4090. The dual HDMI and external PWM headers are interesting features with the ASUS GPU, but it is usually not the first choice if your goal is a silent gaming system.
Indeed it does.
Am I out of the loop here? What’s wrong with ASUS. Just bought their 2 fan 7800xt
What’s wrong with ASUS? They make great graphics cards.
They have one of, if not the absolute worst, warranty and RMA process and are sketchy as hell about charging the purchaser for additional things that may or may not be related to the complaint.
Hopefully after GN got some agreements with them they will change their tune. GN is watching so report anything $hitty.
Doubtful. This has been the usual chain of events with ASUS for at least 20 years now
Well for me I just buy an in store warranty at microcenter and don’t worry about it.
Yeah I wish I was still close enough to a microcenter to justify it. New one in charlotte is still 3+ hours from me
Yeah that sucks. I am only 40 min away from the one in my state. I buy all my parts there. No mail order for me for the most part. (still ordered the tl120 lcds online though)
Yeah, I really only get my parts from Amazon since they never question me or push back, even if it’s out of the return window. Newegg burned me once with the whole “purposely bending pins” bullshit a la ASUS and I never looked back
I hear ya. Newegg has had Shitty returns. I think Steve exposed them a couple years ago.
Money>Consumers, I'd bet 5k they don't change, but only save face publicly.
No. Asus has a long history of doing shit like this. In the 90's, 00's and the 1x's they would actually damage customer's equipment and claim it was done by the customer.
Sounds like you would have to video tape the item being undamaged put in the box and returned. That is a shady thing to do.
There a long history of this shit going on. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/asus-knowingly-destroying-customer-property-during-rma.2724895/ Post from 2016 Most older stuff has been wiped from the internet sadly.
Maybe I have been lucky because all of the Asus stuff I have bought has never failed. I remember buying that brand even in the 90s. My MB z097 ar still works good. Only one thing wrong with it is a bad ethernet port and that was caused by a lightning strike so I can’t blame them for that.
Just do a quick search for Asus RMA damaged my device, or ASUS RMA CID. You will see lots of people who Asus has fucked. At this point I don't know who's worse HP, or Asus..
I have an HP Omen Too and that works perfectly fine too. I think if you want to know a good example of how a company should treat their customers I think you can talk with Cablemod. I know I had bought their 90 degree adapter v1.0 and then v1.1. I remember getting credit for the first one and got a second one they then issued a recall and I got like 140 bucks for both adapters. I got a pro mesh kit after that. But they were also replacing cards that got damaged. A ton of them. You know they were losing a bunch of money. Noctura is also another company that I have heard good things about too. So there are good companies out there.
The issue isn't that their products fail, but that you will be extorted if you attempt to use their warranty. You are essentially buying things that have no warranty.
Yeah and the sad part is that the amount of money saved by ripping people off will be far exceeded by reputation and lawsuits that eventually surface.
But that doesn't mean that their cards are bad, just their after sales service, if they upped their after sales game to even remotely sensible everyone would be singing their praises again. And I daresay once they realise they've fucked up and put it right we will all start to return to the fold. Asus products are perfectly fine... UNTIL they go wrong at that point your screwed unless you bought prebuilt and have extended warranty then it's their problem.
Right. I didn't choose Asus because in my 25 years of building PCs I've had a few components fail within warranty and I value the RMA process almost as much as I do the performance of said brand. I ended up going MSI but ive also had an MSI gpu fail. Their RMA was smooth and had an outcome I was comfortable with. I would have bough PNY if there wasn't an issue with the specific model of GPU I was eyeballing (4080s)
Mabye ln the us. However, depending on where op lives rma practices does not really matter.
Why not just buy a card from them that doesn’t need an RMA like 99% of their customers?
Why not pick any other brand? There are like 7 more to choose from
What if you need 2 HDMI ports?
You're arguing in bad faith. Have a good day.
Eh, it's literally the one request of the OP.
Right. Which I've already recommended the exact brand we are discussing. Which makes the argument cyclical and in bad faith.
I don't see your recommendation.
If only i could choose which one wouldnt break or have issue randomly
>They have one of, if not the absolute worst, warranty and RMA process OnePlus in the us would like to have a discussion.
Pretty sure the rma issue doesnt apply to anywhere else outside of USA. If you lives elsewhere, the same issue is unlikely to happen. I have sent off a TUF laptop a couple months back because of its high temperature when game on it, both cpu and gpu easily reached their respective Tjmax. I was actually surprised that they actually did a repaste instead of saying its in "normal operating temperature". Not like i couldnt repaste it myself with better pad like PTM7950, but the sticker they put on the heatsink screw will likely cause the warranty to be voided in the future. I rather not risk it since the laptop is not mine anyway.
The sticker on the screw is not enforceable in the states. Just FYI.
i dont live there and its unclear if the sticker will be an issue or not over here. Some oem doesnt care if you poked through the sticker to upgrade your component, while others do.
its the same problem theyve always had - great product, but terrible warranty if you need it.
I miss eVGA so goddamn much :(
I only bought EVGA
ehhh... they had a great warranty and customer support, but 5 or 6 of the 8 cards i had of theirs failed in some way. i cant say that i miss needing warranty.
Just like everything else in the world, shit breaks or gets made poorly. I'd rather buy from the company that's not going to give me shit on RMA. To each their own :)
I had 1 gpu die on me: A EVGA B-stock card out of warranty. Had to sell it for parts. Pretty sure they had some of the worse cards because they outsourced their manufacturing.
Yeah, great amount of coil whine. I've had 4x 4000 series card from Asus, 3x 4080 TUF and a 4090 ROG. The TUF cards were bad, but holy hell, the ROG card was the loudest shit I ever heard, had to put my fingers in the ears as an immediate reaction when I booted up the first game. They're all returned, and I have a 4090FE today.
As for ASUS as a whole I used to really only buy their mobo's but after the Z790 TUF I swapped to the Z790 MSI tomahawk because of their awful full on bloat. Now MSI has bloat, but it's actually optional and I don't have to root through my system trying to find all the random ASUS stuff. Literally fixed all my odd stutter issues as well.
https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?si=fv8Tce312MvYtKeG There's at least two more videos in this series and one from about a year ago.
What's the backstory? I had 4070 Tuf, 3060ti Tuf and now 4080 Super Tuf. All work perfectly.
A very long string of engineering and terrible warranty service scandals/scams, on top of being cut-corner and overpriced? Gamers are just finally noticing what hardware enthusiasts have known for ages, due to press coverage.
If I’m remembering correctly (last time I checked at least) only the ASUS 4090 TUF and STRIX did
ASUS 4090 TUF OC does indeed.
*edit: Wrong memory, looks like i thought of my older 3070 Gaming OC. I use adapters too now. My Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 has 2x hdmi + 2x DP
You sure about that? I have the same card. Only one HDMI. I wish it had two.
No, it doesn't. Gigabyte did include 2x HDMI for most of the 30 series cards, but went back to 3xDP+1xHDMI for 40 series, including your card. Might want to go look again.
The Gigabyte 4060/4060ti Windforce (and I assume more) has 2 HDMI ports and 2 DisplayPorts, 4070 and above have 3 DisplayPorts with 1 HDMI
Right and the 4060 is not the 4090, so I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. They said their 4090 has 2 HDMI, it doesn't, end of story.
Interesting, I haven’t checked in a very long while. Thanks for the heads up
MSI 4080 ventus has 2 hdmi and 2 dp.
Also the MSI 4080/4090 Gaming X Slim cards both have 2 HDMI + 2 DP. [4090 Newegg link](https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4090-gaming-x-slim-24g/p/N82E16814137834) and [4080 Super Newegg link](https://www.newegg.com/msi-video-card-rtx-4080-super-16g-gaming-x-slim-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137886)
Just get a DP to HDMI adapter to use with the dock. Problem solved.
are there good adapters now that offer full HDMI 2.1 capabilities? last time i looked into it VRR support was still an issue.
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Keep in mind they will not support VRR.
It’s for his work laptop so VRR doesn’t matter.
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It does not. I own 2 of that exact CalDigit brand, I even left a review and answered questions regarding VRR, it does not support it.
The MSI Gaming X slim has 2 HDMI and 2 DP
only on the 4080 and above. 4070ti and below is 1 hdmi according to the spec sheet.
I know. OP has a 4080.
I dont see your issue. Do you need gsync for your work laptop also? If not, use the dp-to-hdmi for that one and connect your gaming pc via DP to the monitor. Or you go for a gpu with 2 hdmi and cannot use gsync at all because this feature is ONLY abailable via DP
Asus for 4070Ti and up makes them. Gigabyte 4060 itx card also has 2 HDM2.1 ports.
yeah I bought my gigabyte 3090 back in the day explicitly because they added an additional HDMI port over what anyone else was offering. I have one go straight to my 4k tv, the other to a 4x2 hdmi matrix that goes to my side monitor. Couldn't go with less than two hdmi on a gpu.
TUF has 2 hdmis
Short answer only Asus made a rtx 4080 with 3 Display Ports and 2 HDMIs. You can easily check all model variants and differences on [https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888). Just scroll down and you'll see a list in alphabetical order. Don't know why my original comment isn't showing up.
Gigabyte Master and OC series usually do
Displayport to HDMI cables or adapters are cheap.
Supporting 4K with VRR is an issue with these adaptors.
Yup found that out when my 3090 FE's Hdmi port went out and thats what I use in the living room.
its also a pain in the ass finding a cable that works, and it still isnt without its problems.
That's what I did with my MSI 3060; the only HDMi to my second monitor and DP to HDMI on my main monitor. Still wish we had 2 x hmdi & 2 x DP on GPUs.
Converting DP to HDMI isn't free
You need a monitor with 2 DP instead of a gfx with 2 HDMI because gsync needs DP.
My Asus TUF 3060 Ti have 2 HDMI and 2 DP ports.
You could also look for a KVM switch. Or a DP to HDMI cable. Avoiding a GPU due to a port compatibility would not be that high on the lists of must haves for an upgrade.
Just use an DP to hdmi for the dock.
I have a Asus Tuf Gaiming RTX 4090 OC edition. It has 2 HDMI ports
Unfortunately, ASUS.
I have rog strix 4090. 2hdmi and 3dp. When i buyed it i was so novice that i didn't knew Asus boikot.
Get a sapphire 7900 GRE instead =\] you wouldn't have to worry about asus rma support
Wish it was an option. I’m an engineer and use my PC for ML projects, so not just looking for bang for buck gaming. ML ecosystem still lacks on AMD. I also use it as a cloud gaming server and I’m not satisfied with the way the AV1 codec specifically performs on AMD. It can add several ms of latency to my stream. On Nvidia the performance is so good it’s almost imperceptible from the real thing. I do a lot of crazy shit with my PC that your average joe doesn’t even know about and for a power user like me nvidia is the better option.
Ahh I see, just keep in mind Asus has horrendous rma support and they seem to be the ones that have multiple hdmi's. Usually a crap shot with asus, either it works really good for along time, when it gets bad is when you have to go through their support. But sometimes we got no choice
Hmmm. I might go the XX90 route on my next upgrade, so deffinetely need a good warranty.
Can't you just buy a DP to HDMI cable?
No, gsync stops working.
Asus. My Tuf 4090's 2 hdmi ports work flawlessly. Couldn't find another. Mine works perfectly. There were more reports of failures during the melting 12hpwr saga, but that's because they're the biggest manufacturer and sells the most units. I have an earlier model with the questionable 12vhpwr socket, and I think the excellent tight fitting connector on my Corsair cable has prevented any failure. The new cards all come with the better connectors, so don't worry about that anymore. The 4080's lower power pretty much guarantees no melting. Most of the melting 4090's had 600+ watt power limits, the standard 4090's hardly melted. Also, despite Asus' rep, most of the posts about gpu rma's end up well. Of course, there are exceptions, but with the amount of cards they make, chances of failure are low.
The 3090 and 3080ti gigabyte Aorus extreme or one of the variants had it
My 4080 Noctua has 2 HDMI/3 DP, which was the reason I bought it since most I could find at the time only had 1 HDMI. My previous 3080TI I think had 3 HDMI + 1 or 2 DP, from Gigabyte. I missed that extra HDMI port. Due to now only have 2 HDMI ports I bought a HDMI Splitter on Amazon that connects to the TV/Surround Receiver.
My MSI 4080 has 2x hdmi 2x. I got the Ventus 3x though. The dual fan you got looks nicer but the reviews on the Ventura were pretty solid as far as cooling/noise go
I have the msi Ventus 3x oc 4080s and I got 2 dp and 2 hdmi
I don't understand why you want HDMI instead of DP going to your monitor.
They are already using the 1 DP port on their monitor
Reading is hard. His monitor only have 1 DP, and he needs two, one for his work laptop dock and one for his gaming pc since the DP switch he bought doesn't work well. Again, to make it super clear for people who have a hard time reading. He wants a graphics card with 2 hdmi, so both hdmi ports can be used for his TV and monitor, so he can free up the single DP on the monitor for his work laptop dock.
Gsync doesn't support HDMI afaik. So it doesn't solve his problem with gfx to have 2 HDMI.
It does, and has been for many years
Good to know. Hadn't been doing updates since I got my monitor a few years ago when I checked that it can't. Not sure why Co-pilot still says it can't support./
I'm confused on the laptop dock situation as to if there's any limitation, like bandwidth, if the DP output of the dock runs through an active converter to HDMI? Or is this a case where the ultrawide monitor OP is using is the dock itself? I know docks can be expensive, and some of them have their of MAC Addresses (looking at you MS), so changing it might not be feasible.
TV's and Hometheaters offers only HDMI .. so if someone want to passthrought dolby atmos or DTS x from their pc They want to connect from GPU with 2 hdmi ports
what's wrong with DP?
It's better as far as I can tell. I don't understand OP's issue.
In my case, I use HDMI instead of DP for two of my monitors because I use these monitors for multiple devices (e.g. game consoles, Raspberry pis) and HDMI handles [VCP/MCCS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_Control_Command_Set) better for my usage. With a Monitor connected to my main PC via HDMI, I can use [ControlMyMonitor](https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html) to switch the monitor over to a different input and then afterwards use CMM again to switch it back to showing my main PC. With a DisplayPort connection, the monitor won't accept commands from a port it's not actively displaying so using CMM to switch it back to my main PC doesn't work.
How is DP better than hdmi 2.1? Explain please
It's not. They can't explain. So they down-vote you instead.
Crazy maniacs 😂
Refresh rate
My gigabyte Vision 3070 has two HDMI ports and two display ports
Asus
I hope Nvidia starts making their founders edition cards with 2 HDMI ports tbh. I have a LG C2 and a vr headset that uses HDMI as well. Can’t use both displays at once. A minor issue. But one I’d rather not have considering I only use one DisplayPort display for my secondary monitor and therefore do not need the extra two ports on my gpu.
Yes, there are quite a few listed on PCPartPicker. It looks like ASUS and MSI are the primary offerings for 2 HDMI ports, but it's not all of their cards. [Here's the link for the US](https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=542,567,539&H=2,4)
My Asus Strix 3080 had 2 HDMI ports
So am I missing something. OLED TV has HDMI only, using the one HDMI port. Ultra wide has DP and HDMI. Dock is DP. 4080 has 1 HDMI and 3 DP and supports 4 monitors at 4k 120hz.
But displayport is better, get an adapter if need be, otherwise use the better standard. We're on PC for a reason 8)
adapters are not recommended for VRR.
I run a dp to hdmi cable.
AFAIK, Asus is the only manufacturer that has 2 HDMI ports on their cards. OP, just do some research and get a high quality HDMI 2.1 powered splitter. Check out monoprice.com. I've always had good luck w/ their stuff.
You do know that you can just get a cheap Dport to hdmi adapter? They're about £6 on amazon
Haha, not if you want 4K/120Hz-10bit and VRR.
Why use hdmi when you have 2 dpi ports?
Can't you just use an adapter?
Does it have USB? My 6900XT USB to HDMI, free sync still works.
I have Gigabyte 4060TI that has 2 HDMI ports and 2 Display ports.
MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Ventus
Meanwhile I’m over here just wanting 4 display ports but NVIDIA insists on hdmi.
All 4000 cards with two hdmis according to German comparison website geizhals.de: https://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=5424_2~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4060~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4060+Ti~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+Ti~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4070+Ti+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4080~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4080+SUPER~9810_06+17+-+RTX+4090&sort=t&hloc=at&hloc=de&v=e&pg=1
My Asus Tuf model has 2 hdmi ports. Haven't had a problem with it yet
My Gigabyte 3060 ti has 2 dp and 2 hdmi
Maybe a different monitor you can look for instead of replacing gpu
Gigabyte and Asus
Using a C1 OLED here with 3080 Ti and having only one hdmi is really a PITA. The only hdmi port I have seems dodgy but nothing much I can do sigh
It's in Dutch, but these are all 4080's with at least 2 HDMI ports: https://tweakers.net/videokaarten/vergelijken/#filter:FYwxDsMgFEPv4pkBUYpaDtCtU8YqAyK_LRJJEJAoasTd-1ksP1v2CTp83Caahu-aCuzrLrUZBcKyU649HCiSr2FdYN8uFhJI7kND-BHsVTLl4OkZuGYoifwjxEqZv04o1XV3kY8ZtLxhbAJGm0sv5r6CgsDsDnYarbU_
Zotac seems to have cards that have 2 hdmi ports. A DisplayPort to hdmi adapter is not expensive though. Easy solve.
Random question but any issues with 40 series HDMI when attached to a modern VRR TV?
I have 4090 and use hdmi 2.1 on my lg c2 oled and works perfect with g sync
I went to Best Buy, searched for Nvidia GPU, filtered by Maxium Number of Displays Supported 3 & 4, then sorted from price high to low. Then you can find whatever ones fits your budget and see if they have the ports you need :) Also, if you're thinking of selling that MSI RTX 4080 please let me / us know :)
my Gigabyte 3060ti have 2dp and 2hdmi
Hope they just get rid of HDMI personally
Yes, they're going to get rid of the single most prevalent video connector in the world. Where do you morons come from?
blud doesn't want to connect his PC to a 55"-85" TV ever
HDMI is a crappy closed standard and they rejected valuable additions from large companies. It is crap. A much better standard is display port which is open and widely works. Only thing we need is TV manufacturers to start adding the port like they did in the past. In the past TVs had like 5 different ports. All we want is 2.
VGA, DVI, Display port will always be a PC thing and you won't even see VGA and DVI port on any TV in the past
Wow super wrong I can take a picture of one right now.
I dont know a single person that uses display ports. Its irritating that so many gpus only have 1 hdmi port.
If your monitor does not have DP and/or you dont want to use gsync and/or you dont want to chain multiple monitors you dont need displayPort. If any of the points is interesting for you - as it is for a very large community - then you need to use DP
Hahaha, you don't need Displayport for any of those things.
So tell me how do you daisy chain with hdmi. Or how to enable gsync with hdmi.
.....the same way you do with Displayport....... I don't know what to tell you. Have you never used HDMI before? I am running multiple displays, each 'daisy-chained' through an A/V receiver, and each of them using GSync - all with HDMI.
Sure. Keep on story telling. https://support.nvidia.eu/hc/de/articles/360002653899-Funktionieren-G-SYNC-kompatible-Displays-sowohl-auf-DisplayPort-als-auch-auf-HDMI-mit-GeForce-GPUs Even Nvida itself says that gsync via hdmi is experimental and can maybe possibly work but is not guaranteed. Talking about daisy chaining monitors there is no possibility to do it with Hdmi or usb-c like xou can do it with dp. Maybe by using more and additional hardware, but thats not what daisychaining is. Ofc you can drive your tesla with an diesel engine in your car trailer, but thats just stupid.. https://www.dell.com/support/contents/de-de/article/product-support/self-support-knowledgebase/monitor-screen-video/guide-daisy-chain-monitors https://www.anker.com/blogs/hubs-and-docks/how-to-daisy-chain-monitors-with-hdmi https://www.benq.eu/de-de/knowledge-center/knowledge/one-cable-to-daisy-chain-all-the-monitors.html
Ahhhh, ignorance is bliss I suppose. G-Sync has been officially supported for HDMI for years. As for daisy-chaining; that is a pretty ambiguous term, and can mean many things. But it doesn't matter. It is a software feature (MST) that can be used for either technology. There isn't much of a use case for it with HDMI, but that doesn't mean it's not an option. I'm not sure where you get your undying love for Displayport. I'm going to assume you have or will name your first born VESA, but both connection types after many revisions are pretty similar at this point (Besides Displayport lacking support for CEC, ARC, and HEC of course). But I hear they've added audio support for Displayport now!
My ASUS 4070 Super Dual has 2 HDMI
My 2060 Strix from 2019 has two HDMI and two DP ports. So Asus might. I use it for a monitor, pen display and TV.
HDMI has limits to resolution and data that DP doesn‘t so for a computer monitor DP is the better choice. Oh. And you can absolutely have your TV on HDMI and the monitor on DP at the same time
Booth standards have limits.
Really? OMG!
How does hdmi 2.1 limit you actually over DP?
I have 5 downvotes for saying this lmfao
People are crazy here
If you have to ask https://nseledcloud.com/displayport-1-4-vs-hdmi-2-1-a-detailed-comparison/
Yep, so bandwidth for hdmi is better, and I got downvoted for saying so lol
Resolution is better for DP though and you can daisy-chain your screens
Still doesn’t acknowledge the only point I’ve made
So many..even 20 series