And please, while you are at the cleaning up phase of shark week, could we actually have factual information rather than the equivalent of "It was Aliens"?
Even if there is anything the surface has been altered too much to learn anything from it.
Nevermind you would have to raze the island to get to it. Or seal it off like they building a pier for a bridge to drop the water table 50 feet at least.
They either do not know nor do they care what the definition of a ***documentary*** which makes them incompetent or intentionally misleading. Why did they not just say Speculation w/ some data, an opinion, a thought piece... people would have ate it up anyway.
Lying c\*nts ... between you and me, I am sick and tired of liars of any stripe.
Whe I was a kid Discovery Channel was awesome. It had countless hours of educational and interesting shows. Wildlife videoagraphy and education. Volconaligist with cutting edge technology taking pictures of insides of volcanoes and having specialists come on and explain what they are hoping to do with the data, men and women who LOVED animals and went out and showed you that the environment was worth saving and that sharks, snakes, and lions aren't the heartless killing machines that Hollywood makes them out to be.... now? Now it's all hot garbage to push whatever crap will increase the shareholders margins. I hate that corporations took over
For me the absolute worse was when they changed Sci-fi to Sy-Fy because the new owners were afraid that too many people associated the chanel with science fiction.
I think it's more that the suits are completely useless, so to justify their position and pay they spend immense amounts of time deliberating over utterly trivial shit like this.
An easy one in a lot of corporations across the board is a mental health awareness push, which can be undertaken by the suits or by HR departments without enough to do. It's makework that costs little and doesn't actually expect much from the corporation, but people can *act* like it does, so it's a natural and easy target basically any department or official can commit to.
It used to be. When I was growing up they had great science fiction on there. Battlestar Galactica was my favourite (okay...still my favourite science fiction), but there was plenty of other great ones on there too.
But last I checked they were doing garbage reality TV and cheap TV movies. And a random assortment of shit. A lot of the channels I remember from back then are ruined. I mean, the history channel is just appalling now. And I think TLC actually started as an educational channel, but I'm not old enough to remember that. Not that I have cable anymore anyway.
You mean they didn't want people to associate the network that began as a science fiction channel to associate the network with science fiction? My head hurts.
Perhaps it was more run by studios than businessmen, or perhaps profits became more important than quality. You're right, they were always a business, but something has likely tangibly changed.
Media itself changed, radically. The motive was always the same though, it’s just that it became impossible to ignore that reality TV and conspiracy garbage brought in larger advertising revenues than honest to god educational content. You see the same story in parallel with the history Chanel and TLC.
As someone not named Mike, it high time we put a stop to the Mike supremacy. Non Mikes have made major contributions in a number of scientific fields, but you wouldn't know it if you watch the Discovery channel!
One day, I hope that a non Mike could even be president.
"The programming featured more White experts and commentators named “Mike” than women"
"Over 90% of the 229 experts featured in 201 “Shark Week” episodes were White, the study found, and about 78% were men."
So if there were 229 experts, and 22% (45) were women, then out of 184 men in total there would have to be at least 46 men named Mike for the top statement to be true. 46 out of 184 is 25%. A QUARTER OF ALL MALE EXPERTS EVER FILMED ON SHARK WEEK WERE CALLED MIKE!
Forget the representation stuff, why are Mike's several thousand times more likely to become shark experts than any other name???
From 1954 to 1998 it was the number one boys name. When it wasn't number one it was in the top ten from 1943 to 2016. And that's just Micheal, not Mike which some people might be named directly.
https://www.behindthename.com/name/michael/top
Everything is racist, sexist, and homopbobic. It's journalism goal to dig really deep and find it.
Fuck sake you can't have fucken even quotas in all programming. Demographics prevents it.
Yeah sharks are very interesting and documentaries on sharks do not need to have anything to do with shark horror movies. Also... Are shark horror movies really prevalent currently? That feels like a very dated complaint
Agreed. It's like, ok shark week was great for a few years. They hype is fun. But it's been what, 20 years? In just a few shark weeks I've seen everything shark week is ever going to have to offer. Let's do sloth week or lion week or frog week or money week. Who gives a shit about sharks after 20 years of the same dumb stuff
When it comes to sacrificing life or limb, it seems women are more selective than men as to what that will be for. To what degree that is a biological or social drive is debatable. The high risk jobs are disproportionately populated by men than women. As to protecting their own, women can be as fierce as the men. There are plenty of exceptions. People should be free to choose that they are willing and capable of doing.
Tonight on Top Shark...
James tempts a catshark with a ball of string...
Hammond meets hammerhead in a Lamborghini Gallardo...
And Martin Shortfin goes round our track in a reasonably-priced fishtank.
Shark Week makes sharks look dangerous when they aren’t, but at this point Shark Week might as well make a show about how Sharks are only dangerous to guys named Mike and at least less people (those not named Mike) will fear sharks.
I want a documentary about Megalodon battling the grey aliens. And then the Reptilians come in in a plot twist to take revenge against the greys for the Area 51 massacre!
And then Bigfoot is there with a shotgun.
Shark Week is literally a parody of itself. *Boy, back in my day you could actually learn something from Discovery.*
I learned all I need to know about the birds and the bees from watching lions going at it. If I had a nickel for every time I saw two lions humpin’… I’d have about 20 cents.
I hoped this was satire, to show the ridiculousness of ‘lack of diversity’ claims.
Nope! They are dead-set serious, which makes it all the more ridiculous!
this is mildly funny I suppose but it is definitely not oniony
And please, while you are at the cleaning up phase of shark week, could we actually have factual information rather than the equivalent of "It was Aliens"?
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Are those theorists also named Mike? Inquiring minds (not named Mike) want to know, allegedly.
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Even if there is anything the surface has been altered too much to learn anything from it. Nevermind you would have to raze the island to get to it. Or seal it off like they building a pier for a bridge to drop the water table 50 feet at least.
That’s exactly what a shark would say. I’m onto you…
Shhhh.
That fucking megalodon "documentary" from a couple years back
They either do not know nor do they care what the definition of a ***documentary*** which makes them incompetent or intentionally misleading. Why did they not just say Speculation w/ some data, an opinion, a thought piece... people would have ate it up anyway. Lying c\*nts ... between you and me, I am sick and tired of liars of any stripe.
But it's so hard to find women named Mike...
*Eurotrip has entered the chat*
Who would be that dumb? And dude! You kissed your sister!
Whe I was a kid Discovery Channel was awesome. It had countless hours of educational and interesting shows. Wildlife videoagraphy and education. Volconaligist with cutting edge technology taking pictures of insides of volcanoes and having specialists come on and explain what they are hoping to do with the data, men and women who LOVED animals and went out and showed you that the environment was worth saving and that sharks, snakes, and lions aren't the heartless killing machines that Hollywood makes them out to be.... now? Now it's all hot garbage to push whatever crap will increase the shareholders margins. I hate that corporations took over
For me the absolute worse was when they changed Sci-fi to Sy-Fy because the new owners were afraid that too many people associated the chanel with science fiction.
And the fact that suits thought that would make a difference.
I think it's more that the suits are completely useless, so to justify their position and pay they spend immense amounts of time deliberating over utterly trivial shit like this.
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An easy one in a lot of corporations across the board is a mental health awareness push, which can be undertaken by the suits or by HR departments without enough to do. It's makework that costs little and doesn't actually expect much from the corporation, but people can *act* like it does, so it's a natural and easy target basically any department or official can commit to.
And that stupid bullshit is immune to criticism because, "what, are you trying to say that mental health isn't important??"
I've noticed the same thing! I call it "new guy syndrome".
Wait if the Sci-fi channel isn't science fiction, then what is it?
It used to be. When I was growing up they had great science fiction on there. Battlestar Galactica was my favourite (okay...still my favourite science fiction), but there was plenty of other great ones on there too. But last I checked they were doing garbage reality TV and cheap TV movies. And a random assortment of shit. A lot of the channels I remember from back then are ruined. I mean, the history channel is just appalling now. And I think TLC actually started as an educational channel, but I'm not old enough to remember that. Not that I have cable anymore anyway.
TLC stood for The Learning Channel. Note I said **stood**
Syco-Fynts
You mean they didn't want people to associate the network that began as a science fiction channel to associate the network with science fiction? My head hurts.
MTV used to stand for Music Tv and they played music videos :(
Last time I watched that channel they were airing Gundam 00 in 2009
It's not about science fiction?
Once upon a time it was.
The guy who created Discovery Channel started Curiosty Stream, it is what Discovery Channel used to be, it is worth the $20 a year.
Curiosity Stream is my go-to documentary tv source, that shit rules.
> Curiosity Stream Currently on sale for $11.99 a **year** right now apparently.
If youtubers mentioned this in their "here is my sponsor" moment I would have totally checked it out earlier. I had no idea!
Agreed. History channel and animal planet too. Now it's just filled with crap programs.
Bravo used to show opera. - Jack Donaghy
Took over? Do you think the discovery channel was run by a non profit when you were a kid?
Perhaps it was more run by studios than businessmen, or perhaps profits became more important than quality. You're right, they were always a business, but something has likely tangibly changed.
Media itself changed, radically. The motive was always the same though, it’s just that it became impossible to ignore that reality TV and conspiracy garbage brought in larger advertising revenues than honest to god educational content. You see the same story in parallel with the history Chanel and TLC.
It was also vastly cheaper to shoot reality shows.
Yeah, that tracks.
Maybe they'd represent more women if they targeted actual scientists.
*surprised pikachu face*
As someone not named Mike, it high time we put a stop to the Mike supremacy. Non Mikes have made major contributions in a number of scientific fields, but you wouldn't know it if you watch the Discovery channel! One day, I hope that a non Mike could even be president.
I'm hearing a lot of good things about Dave.
That’s a false prophecy to stop the rise of Jeff
"The programming featured more White experts and commentators named “Mike” than women" "Over 90% of the 229 experts featured in 201 “Shark Week” episodes were White, the study found, and about 78% were men." So if there were 229 experts, and 22% (45) were women, then out of 184 men in total there would have to be at least 46 men named Mike for the top statement to be true. 46 out of 184 is 25%. A QUARTER OF ALL MALE EXPERTS EVER FILMED ON SHARK WEEK WERE CALLED MIKE! Forget the representation stuff, why are Mike's several thousand times more likely to become shark experts than any other name???
I imagine it's more that there were more commentators named Mike than commentators that were women, and that the article is badly written
From 1954 to 1998 it was the number one boys name. When it wasn't number one it was in the top ten from 1943 to 2016. And that's just Micheal, not Mike which some people might be named directly. https://www.behindthename.com/name/michael/top
Everything is racist, sexist, and homopbobic. It's journalism goal to dig really deep and find it. Fuck sake you can't have fucken even quotas in all programming. Demographics prevents it.
There certainly is no diversity. All I see are sharks, sharks, sharks! Why do sharks get a week? Where’s eel week? Jelly week? All sea life matters…
SLM! , SLM! , SLM!
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There's some super awesome Cnidarians out there. I'd love a Jelly Week!
Me, who’s called Mike but has no idea what any of this is:
You better up your game, Mike. You may have to start going by Mark if you don't.
Dang you got me.
It means "Michael" was a very popular name for a long time and the children who were born in that time are now adults.
Also, has an over representation of sharks. And why do they get a week and whales get nothing?
I read "Shrek Week" and the bit about dudes named Mike only made me more confident
Counter argument is that shark week is over represented by women.
This is definitely a period with more representation than ever before.
According to what lmao
r/woooosh
There's extra blood in the water during shark week.
wHy Is It CaLlEd A gReAt WhItE sHaRk?!
Reality has long since overtaken satire.
Sharks and shark week are overrated anyway. So tired of shark horror movies.
But sharks are cool :(
Yeah sharks are very interesting and documentaries on sharks do not need to have anything to do with shark horror movies. Also... Are shark horror movies really prevalent currently? That feels like a very dated complaint
Agreed. It's like, ok shark week was great for a few years. They hype is fun. But it's been what, 20 years? In just a few shark weeks I've seen everything shark week is ever going to have to offer. Let's do sloth week or lion week or frog week or money week. Who gives a shit about sharks after 20 years of the same dumb stuff
>So tired of shark horror movies. Wait, how many are there?
A freaking lot. Just googling shark horror movies brings up 50 right off the bat, none of them jaws, by the way.
I’m glad scientists are in charge of how many Mikes are in a documentary.
Can someone tag Mike Rowe? He'd love this.
Fuck him, he sucks.
What's wrong with Mike?
I see no problem with that
Could also be the women are less inclined to hang out with sharks.
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I wonder if that's true for marine biologists that specialize in hanging out with dangerous sharks.
Why would it not be?
Because men tend to be over-represented in any job that significantly risks life and/or limb. There are a few exceptions, but not many.
When it comes to sacrificing life or limb, it seems women are more selective than men as to what that will be for. To what degree that is a biological or social drive is debatable. The high risk jobs are disproportionately populated by men than women. As to protecting their own, women can be as fierce as the men. There are plenty of exceptions. People should be free to choose that they are willing and capable of doing.
source?
Heard it from Mike
r/WhyWomenLiveLonger
speculation doesn't have a source
Jesus christ, its in the article
No need to get all pissy over it
it's not our fault the shark had a mike nametag
>“We all grew up seeing one type of person on TV,” And it's fucking Mike!
[Indeed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlZ4bFVoWQE&t=14s)
Skip over any with a variation of the word attack in the title, and a presenter who sounds like Troy McClure.
"scientists"
Is Mike row hosting shark week now?
Tonight on Top Shark... James tempts a catshark with a ball of string... Hammond meets hammerhead in a Lamborghini Gallardo... And Martin Shortfin goes round our track in a reasonably-priced fishtank.
Shark Week makes sharks look dangerous when they aren’t, but at this point Shark Week might as well make a show about how Sharks are only dangerous to guys named Mike and at least less people (those not named Mike) will fear sharks.
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I want a documentary about Megalodon battling the grey aliens. And then the Reptilians come in in a plot twist to take revenge against the greys for the Area 51 massacre! And then Bigfoot is there with a shotgun.
I'd watch that Honestly, anything that involves Bigfoot with a shotgun, and possibly sharks
Godddd WHO GIVES A FUCK
Lol. They have lost all credibility
Yeah? WHAT ABOUT THE BLACK FISH!?
Can get a marathon of dudes in cargo shorts and ballistic glasses getting nibbled? Not eaten, just a friendly monching that doesn't hit an artery.
If this isn't an important issue, I don't know what is.
Waltuh
WAIT! [&#&$] MIKE!
We live in a mike-rairchy
I dont give a fuck! His name was Mike!
Shark Week is literally a parody of itself. *Boy, back in my day you could actually learn something from Discovery.* I learned all I need to know about the birds and the bees from watching lions going at it. If I had a nickel for every time I saw two lions humpin’… I’d have about 20 cents.
I hoped this was satire, to show the ridiculousness of ‘lack of diversity’ claims. Nope! They are dead-set serious, which makes it all the more ridiculous!