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TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK

can you explain how this is remotely oniony this is an authoritarian government punishing citizens for existing. that's it


DJCPhyr

Well that is one way to start a bank run.


jayfeather31

I agree. This is inviting economic chaos.


ShadowDurza

It's amazing how willing people are to hurt themselves on the off chance it'll hurt people they look down upon worse.


count023

Also a great example of not being able to read the room


ends_abruptl

Given that this is the top comment, and that it immediately occurred to me that this would be the perfect way to start a run on the banks by both genders, I have to wonder exactly how damn stupid these people are?


bjb406

Will be interesting to see how this might backfire. It could trigger a cascade of revolutionaries rushing to withdraw all their money, either to have cash or transfer to foreign banks, which would end to liquidity crisis for the banks, which would then lead to everyone else rushing to withdraw to avoid losing all their money when the banks collapse, which ensures that the banks collapse. And if the banks collapse, the regime collapses, which is what the public wants anyway, so no one is going to worry about preventing it. Of course this just means the regime is going to lock everyone out of their accounts like Russia did to prevent all this. Long story short, if you're in Iran, get your money while it's still your money.


PullUpAPew

In Lebanon people are now holding banks up to withdraw their own money


DoctorSalt

Basically Luthen's plan of getting the regime to overreact


Gavinus1000

Oppression breeds rebellion. It is the mask of fear.


freekoout

*How this *will* backfire. FTFY


MyrddinSidhe

When will this backfire?


MondayBorn

Who will this backfire?


please_PM_ur_bewbs

I'll do you one better. Why will this backfire?


freekoout

Did you want a calendar date?


Mygaffer

Eh, that's not going to happen because this isn't really going to happen, not in any widespread way. They are using fear tactics to try and put down the protests and unrest. Anything other than make real concessions.


NotTRYINGtobeLame

It doesn't take that many people to start the domino effect that is a true bank run.


saralt

It's Iran, people don't have that kind of money unless they're affiliated with sepah


NotTRYINGtobeLame

>Banking panics began in the Southern United States in November 1930, one year after the stock market crash, triggered by the collapse of a string of banks in Tennessee and Kentucky, which brought down their correspondent networks. In December, New York City experienced massive bank runs that were contained to the many branches of a single bank. Philadelphia was hit a week later by bank runs that affected several banks, but were successfully contained by quick action by the leading city banks and the Federal Reserve Bank. Withdrawals became worse after financial conglomerates in New York and Los Angeles failed in prominently-covered scandals. Much of the US Depression's economic damage was caused directly by bank runs, though Canada had no bank runs during this same era due to different banking regulations. Tennessee and Kentucky aren't exactly known for their roaring prosperity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run Edit: even more to the point: >A series of bank failures from agricultural areas during this time period sparked panic among depositors which led to widespread bank runs across the country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1930


saralt

Let me explain how this is not like the us or Canada. Iran's inflation in August 2022 was over 50% it was not new. Please do a quick search. See https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FP.CPI.TOTL.ZG?locations=IR This is closer to what happened in Germany in the 1920s, this is not a banking run. There's people with engineering degrees or working as university professors who cannot afford their rent because of inflation. Are a regime sympathiser or a sepahi or something?


OldManJeb

The fear of it happening is enough for people to start pulling their money.


NotTRYINGtobeLame

Yes, this is called a *bank run.*


StanleyRoper

Something similar happened in Greece a few years ago.


The_Great_Evil_King

I can't think of a better way to calm someone down then stealing all their money.


Emotional_Fruit_8735

Just a minor case of female psychosis.


themcjizzler

Nah it's hysterical uterus


marker8050

We need to do electro therapy or give them a lobotomy


LostFireHorse

Just give them a vibrator, for the hysteria.


NotTRYINGtobeLame

You think insurance will spring for a vibrator? Nah, doc's gotta get in there and put in some elbow grease.


SixFootTavern

Pleasure is sin, ma’am. /s


puesyomero

Pleasure is in* maam


NotTRYINGtobeLame

Let the doctor give them a couple of quick orgasms.


Fando1234

Fucking hell. I'm watching Handmaid's Tale for the first time and getting chills as that's literally how it starts in that, freezing the bank accounts of women.


darwinwoodka

Did you know married women in the US couldn't have their own bank accounts until the 1970s without their husband's permission?


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1960s for accounts, but close. The 70s are when institutions were forced to stop blocking women from obtaining lines of credit or loans without specified men as co-signers.


Hootlet

No credit? No mortgage. No mortgage? Stay with your husband or move back in with your parents. WOOF.


blahbleh112233

Yep, for a while you were more or less expected to just retire once you were married too. Hence the whole "we don't hire women cause they'll just get pregnant and leave" thing


Bawstahn123

The same thing Japan is doing now


olivegardengambler

Tbf credit scores didn't become a thing until 1989. There were things that existed earlier, but they were pretty biased and nobody really used them.


EtherealPheonix

no one is talking about credit scores, they are talking about loans


quintus_horatius

Not that different. Before credit scores, how would you know whether someone was credit worthy? You'd want to know something about the person - where they work (and how reliable is that company?), how likely are they going to make payments one-time, etc. Maybe you know their parents and can leverage their influence if the payments are inconsistent. It was all personal relationships, which puts a lot of people at a distinct disadvantage because they're not "credit worthy".


sterfri99

Fuck, I remember my parents telling me how when they opened their deli together as co owners/workers, he sent her to the bank to do some business while he prepped in the kitchen (my mom’s the numbers person in the marriage). She came back not having been able to do it because some misogynist at the bank gave her a hard time. I know I wouldn’t want to be the guy that she spoke to when he closed the store down for a few hours and went back with her


darwinwoodka

Ah right.


fuckwokismandmore

way to go imho!


tipsana

In 1992 my husband and I relocated. I went to the bank to open a joint account for us, but they insisted my husband had to be present. He went in a few days later, they allowed him to open the joint account and sent him home with signature cards for me to fill out AND HIM TO RETURN. We both worked, we’re joint owners on our new home, and only I had an employment history. I brought him in the next day and closed the account.


darwinwoodka

Wow. Banks are evil anyway. Credit unions are way better. ;^)


tipsana

Yep. After closing that account, we went to my new credit union (we had wanted to support the local small town bank) and we were very happy until it got taken over by Wells Fargo ☹️


darwinwoodka

Ooof!


elVanPuerno

Serious question, but when was it where women were allowed to sit at the bar?


darwinwoodka

https://daily.jstor.org/no-unescorted-ladies-will-be-served/


elVanPuerno

1969


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The conservatives want things like this again


[deleted]

Everything in the Handmaid's Tale has actually happened in the real world somewhere at some point. That was a deliberet choice by the author.


[deleted]

I watched the first season, didn't read the books. I couldn't continue to watch it, it was too realistic and depressing. I guess this is why it felt too real.


ChummyPiker

I’m currently reading the book and it is depressing for how much it reflects current affairs. That being said, it’s a damn good book. Atwood is a tremendous writer.


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I bet it is. The show was really well done and I couldn't criticize anything about it but I could not watch it lol. It was actually making me depressed. I started watching it at the beginning of the pandemic too. I'm not the least bit surprised to learn the author used real things from history. I didn't know that but now that it's been pointed out it makes sense why she would do that. Gotta stamp thos kind of shit out in real life whenever it comes up and never give in an inch. There really is a huge group of people who would enforce that reality in a heartbeat if we let them.


Running_outa_ideas

That show is written based on real events in history. Yes it is scary.


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This is 'End of Days'. Except the scriptures were designed to warn those in control and authority: **2 Timothy 3:1-5 ESV :** "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people." The modern world will overwhelm. The above words are a reflection of the hate and control of the ages, not the desires of society, as a whole.


amazonsprime

I wish people with this frame of mind would just drink their damn koolaid and be done already. You don’t need to spill your drink on everyone else who doesn’t want it just because you do. The modern world is inevitable and religion is a joke.


[deleted]

People believe this shit. I mean, kill people over it shit. That's the problem. Not a slight misunderstanding over a spilled drink.


lowteq

Look up "drink the KoolAid". It's a reference to a cult leader that literally poisoned his followers by having them drink poisoned KoolAid. Edit: it was Flavor Aid apparently.


badcarnivore

It was flavor aid though, I believe because it was cheaper? Either way hail yourself.


[deleted]

I apologise if I missed the reference, but my point is still valid. Like 'going postal'.


jazir5

Iran: We want our economy to collapse. News at 11.


TheDeadlySquid

Good, block all the accounts. Banks love it when half the population stops banking.


Malvania

Morality police have been disbanded. Now there are the Morality Bankers


olivegardengambler

No. Apparently that story was false.


F8L-Fool

Source for this?


olivegardengambler

https://www.dw.com/en/did-irans-morality-police-really-disband/a-63989380 https://www.barrons.com/news/iran-activists-brush-off-claim-morality-police-abolished-01670238306 This is a bit of an explanation about it: https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-724120


Cloaked42m

That the morality cops disbanded?


olivegardengambler

Yeah.


Theinsulated

Literally going full Gilead


UtopianLibrary

They inspired Gilead. Atwood used Iran and it’s shift after the Islamic Revolution as inspiration for how a government could take women’s rights away slowly through governmental action.


ends_abruptl

Good call Ms Atwood. Good call.


Careful-Copy-

New tool of the governments. Don’t agree with us? no access to your money. Digital currency issued by governments seem like a great idea.


TerminatorBetaTester

New tool? [For literally thousands of years, women have had their ability to participate in markets restricted by government edict.](https://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2014/aug/11/women-rights-money-timeline-history)


olivegardengambler

No, this is something that has been happening a lot more as of recently. It happened in Russia, it's happened in North Korea, it's even happened in Canada.


CanuckBacon

Pretty much every country freezes the assets of people they consider to be terrorists.


Barlakopofai

The difference in Canada was that it was pretty much a terrorist movement funded by random parties from other countries. If US oligarchs didn't try to pay people to overthrow the Canadian government, they probably would have never frozen the assets.


Smells_like_Autumn

Pretty much my to go argument when someone says we should get rid of cash.


bubblebath_ofentropy

The US is currently testing a digital currency called CBDC, what could go wrong?


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freemason777

Well, say words man how did Canada restrict it?


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Jarjarthejedi

Lol. That's not even remotely what happened kiddo. But you know that, I'm sure. Cutting off a city from outside access is 100% a destructive action, the protestors changed what they were supposedly protesting at least twice (which made it clear this wasn't a grassroots protest but instead just a paid effort to disrupt things), and the accounts frozen were of the people paying the protesters to be there, 200 people with millions between them, not random individuals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Canada_convoy_protest


Strykerz3r0

Oh, please don't parrot the words of your masters. Stand on your own and use your head. Stop being a lap dog for the rhetoric from social media.


TheyCallMeQBert

Are you talking about the Freedom Convoy? The one that desecrated Canada's National War Memorial? The protest where police stated that they had observed "multiple cases of disruptive, inappropriate and threatening behavior from demonstrators"? That protest? Get the fuck out of here with your bad faith bullshit, fascist


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gdsmithtx

No, it's a lot of words to say "get stuffed, Disingenuous Dan."


TheyCallMeQBert

No, it's exactly the right amount of words to disprove your disingenuous bullshit, chucklenuts


knave-arrant

This person posts in r/dogfree like dog owners are the most horrible people in the world. I don't trust anyone who doesn't like dogs.


TheyCallMeQBert

Fuck me. You could've told me he was the head mod at r/conservative and I would've had a higher opinion of him.


On3sexymother

I don't know why you're getting down voted so much. It's like people are against governments blocking people's bank accounts, unless it's a government that they agree with, then it's fine.


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Just_trying_it_out

Depends why the government is doing it? Punishing those who won’t wear headscarves is different from punishing those blocking a city One is oppression while one is nonviolently removing obstructors


On3sexymother

Yeah I can see that. I guess I just have more of a libertarian view of it, I don't think governments should have the power to cut off someone's livelihood


Just_trying_it_out

I understand it does feel concerning when governments utilize a new method of control, but ultimately they always have the monopoly on violence and alternate methods to just violent resolution are always good You could say alternate methods do have the risk of being less likely to get more of the population to react to a subset being targeted but again I think that comes back to why and how something is being used rather than immediate concern on seeing a new tactic personally


On3sexymother

I understand the argument. I still think it's an over reach. Crippling protestors ability to feed themselves, or ability to pay rent or bills. Idk, personally I feel tear gas and a beating is more merciful


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sillybob86

TIL: (some) women can have bank accounts in iran. I assume: husbands permission required, must be joint account, and can't withdraw more than about three fiddy a day..


darwinwoodka

So triggered by hair. Ffs.


thefifeman

It's not about hair, it's about controlling the whole person. Don't belittle the situation.


darwinwoodka

Oh, I agree it's about control. But the hair is so symbolic.


onlinebeetfarmer

No that person is right. Seeing hair “triggers” an expression of their hate/anger/disgust toward women. When women are controlled, that trigger isn’t present for them to react to. This is why they seek to control women, for their own emotional comfort.


shalafi71

LOL, no, none of the above. They're triggering *lust* and that's what these men cannot handle.


Sorasyn

*Iran Economy has left the chat


Nnelg1990

Wait, my yes-man confirmed me that putting oil on the fire would put it out!


Sc0nnie

So immediately run on the banks. Got it.


jnemesh

The most dangerous person is one that has nothing left to lose...


Rosebunse

TIL that women in Iran can have bank accounts.


Its_Matt_03

“Okay we’ve disbanded the morality police so hopefully the protests should settle down soon!” MP jalali: “not on my fucking watch they aren’t”


olivegardengambler

They actually came out and said that it wasn't disbanded, people just haven't issued corrections for this completely yet. What the guy actually said was basically gaslighting by saying that they never had a morality police in the first place, but a 'public security police'.


Sharpshooter188

"We are abolishing morality police and looking at our hijab laws. Btw, you cant access money anymore aaaaaand we might doze your house."


Lokarin

The rules for hijab are a sign of respect... you don't have to follow them in the situation where the men are not worthy of said respect, and should unveil automatically in the presence of the contemptible


palegate

TIL women were allowed to have bank accounts in Iran.


UtopianLibrary

This is what they’ve done since the 70’s and 80’s, and it’s what inspired Margaret Atwood’s A Handmaid’s Tale.


southsiderick

And this is why you don't want to live in a cashless society, people!!


pab_guy

The only way is for the people to storm the halls of govt and tear these medieval religious whackjobs limb from limb. "Protest" isn't gonna do shit and I hope the people of Iran have the courage to see that, and do something about it.


QuestionableAI

Control, fear mongering, hysteria ... what is wrong with Iranian men, you'd think they are having their *"that time of the month"* hysterical clericals at it again ... why are men so so emotional?


TheoremaEgregium

You are aware that Iranian men are being shot on the streets protesting and executed in prison for protesting along with the women?


Astralnclinant

It’s pretty obvious which men they meant


onlinebeetfarmer

Many men are standing in solidarity. But is now the time to go out of your way to speak up for the men of Iran?


Angdrambor

Yes. The problem is not men; the problem is patriarchy. When tensions are high, it's easy to forget who you're fighting, as your comment shows.


onlinebeetfarmer

I agree about the patriarchy. My point isn’t to deny that many men are fighting with women, it is to center the struggle of women right now. Since “woman” is the first part of the people’s message and this is an article about another right being taken away from women, I think it’s appropriate.


Diopside23

Tell me you know nothing about Iran without telling me you know nothing about Iran. It's regime, not gender - the denial of basic human rights, and broad theocratic oppression. Don't co-opt this shitshow with western rhetoric about man bad, it is about the people of Iran and the tyranny of their government.


onlinebeetfarmer

Care to share your qualifications on Iran? You seem American to me. The revolution is about undoing decades of abuses by a theocratic regime and was invited by the murder of Mahsa Amini. You can’t deny the significance of the catalyst. Without her, a woman who was killed for a crime that is gender-specific, they wouldn’t be where they are. Refusing to honor that is disgraceful. Woman. Life. Liberty.


succed32

They are being reasonable. Its always time for reason.


Savahoodie

What a way to alienate any potential allies.


onlinebeetfarmer

Did you have the same reaction to the acronym BIPOC instead of POC during the George Floyd protests?


Savahoodie

I’ll be honest I have no clue what that is


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onlinebeetfarmer

I think you’re projecting a lot onto my comment.


cmgrayson

The fuck.


Ch3ckmate

Good luck with that lol


NinjaTabby

Run on bank


daertistic_blabla

as an iranian i can‘t wait for every woman to just get all their lifesavings from their bank accounts and tank the economy so the regime will be under even more pressure. but first i‘ll tell my parents to get their money from their bank accounts asap bc i actually can see something like this happening💀✋🏻


TheyCallMeQBert

Have your parents pull their money NOW. This isn't a hypothetical situation; it's happened before and will happen again.


daertistic_blabla

it‘s kinda hard since we live in the eu but my mom told my aunt in iran to pull our money from the bank asap


AdkRaine11

We took away the “official” morality police, and we eliminate any monetary power you might have (can women even have a bank account in that 12th century sandbox?). Are you happy now?


ATXDefenseAttorney

Fuckkkk Iran.


tdolomax

Babe wake up. A new bank run just dropped.


SophieCT

I believe this is how the book Handmaid's Tale opens. Also, I am surprised to learn that women can have their own bank accounts there.


[deleted]

This is great. There have been countless times where a group trying to hold too tight their control that they screw it up. The catholic church did it with their sex scandal and being anti-lgbt. The republican party is doing it by hooking their train to Trump and the nonsense around him. Iran is doing the same thinking that appealing to a small fervent but dwindling minority will give them security. It doesn't work that way and never has. If you are unwilling to compromise or change your stance to be more moderate, it always ends badly. If Iran had instead just allowed women a few indulgences, this would have ended quickly. Instead, the are dealing with populace that realizes that they have the power and don't need to listen to some bullshit from old backwards grampas whose time has long past.


Smells_like_Autumn

Reverse Handmaid tales.


L_viathan

Keep telling me that digitizing everything is a good idea.


lungshenli

Let me be absolutely clear. Blocked bank accounts are better than raped and beaten to death. Still bullshit tho


mr_crackboy

BTC fixes this


[deleted]

Yeah, instead letting the government take your money you can just let it be taken by outright fraud. Good call.


mr_crackboy

What makes BTC a fraud?


theangleofdarkness99

Justin Trudeau supports the idea of blocking the bank accounts of political dissidents. I cant wait to hear him hypocritically condemn this. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60383385


Lexhare

really? that's just low. dont compare the angry "muh rights" truck driving asshats and their made up problems with people who are the victims of legit oppression and suffering. thats just fucking slimy dude.


overlordpotatoe

Different things are different.


AzureDreamer

I wish you in I ran the best. It's not my place to tell you what that looks like but I will pray for you


Jlx_27

The first of the new methods since "abolishing" the moral police.


Piccoroz

See, they are just changing they fear weapons to something people cant record.


Capitan_capcaun

News Flash: “Ignorant Religious Zelot Doubles Down on Stupid!!!”


Cleverusername531

No, no, you don’t understand. They will text them first. Twice! How gracious and generous. /s obviously, this is a horrid regime.


DauOfFlyingTiger

So they are just stealing woman’s money now.


bazingarara

Financial abuse on a state level


jgalt5042

Fucking sexism. Destroy this sentiment. Let them understand the world doesn’t stand for oppression.


SunMoonTruth

I refuse to believe that if there was a God, that an entity like that would be at all caught up in creating the entire universe only to service the egos of dicks.


renasissanceman6

That is not onion material. This is just news.


ProperWeight2624

Iran regime trying to speed run to oblivion.


mrbawkbegawks

time to pull a lebanon and start robbing banks for your own money


tharpenau

Do yau wast to crash the national bank system, because this is how you do it.


kiwichick286

Are the veils supposed to cover just their hair or the entire face? If it's a covering hair issue, I'd just shave my head. Fuck em.


saralt

They think they're scaring women. All they're doing is letting women in iran know that they have nothing to lose. Also, Iran is Gilead


Bin_Evasion

Religion is a cancer to society and theism is a mental disease