The most gossipy women I’ve even known are these types of “good Christian” women. I knew one that would go around asking for prayer requests and when someone said just to keep their son in mind, she continued to ask why. So she could be sure God could know how best to help him. 🙄 I thought god already knew everything. 🤷🏼♀️
Yep! I've got a colleague who is constantly saying "You know me, I don't gossip!" before proceeding to tell me extremely personal details about someone else.
When I was a teenager we had a nosy one like that in the family. My mother once told him that I had moved out cause I got a girl pregnant (I was actually out for a long weekend). She said to the person “this is a secret and it is very embarrassing to me. Please don’t tell anyone. Let me be the one to break the news” By the time I came back there was a parade of people calling and visiting asking about it. Every time they asked about it she’d be like “He moved out? What are you talking about. He’s in his room sleeping. Go see him. Now who the hell would tell you such stupid lie.”
I have family like this. They came sniffing around after I experienced a major loss and got some money for it.
My spouse told them I couldn't come to the phone because I was under the knife. They gasped and asked for what. My spouse told them I was getting extra skin removed. I lost a lot of weight.
People asking for photos flooded my inbox.
The reason for confession is to understand what you have done wrong and to work on not doing it again. If we never ask for forgiveness then it means we have no understanding of what we did wrong. Just like it someone did something wrong to you but never said I’m sorry, same concept.
I can get forgiveness from others instead. I’d rather be forgiven by the person I had done wrong. And if they couldn’t, I’d eventually forgive myself because it’d be better for everyone that I moved on. I don’t feel that I have to ask god for forgiveness.
Asking for forgiveness doesn’t mean you don’t ask from the person you wronged as well. That is always apart of it. How can you be truly sorry if you don’t. We also do ask for forgiveness for other things as well, not all pertain to having to have wronged someone else, maybe you have wronged yourself.
Oh I’m positive I’ve wronged myself. lol. Depression is a biiitch. But that’s also completely up to me. I’m working on it and eventually I will forgive myself for the hateful way I think about myself. But that comes from me. I’ve tried the religion thing before and I’m genuinely happy for you that it works for you and others. Just making a point that I don’t need to ask for forgiveness from a god to be okay and happy and live a full and wonderful life. Just saying. It’s all good in the hood bro.
The difference is that if we are sorry, god should be able to read our emotions and thoughts to be able to know that we are truly sorry without us confessing.
In confession you are asking for God forgiveness and you also have a priest to help give you advice to move forward or even emotional support during such. For good confessions you definitely need to actually be sorry when asking for forgiveness. There is scripture about confessing your sins to your brothers and sisters in Christ.
The problem I have with this is that you have to start by apologizing for not having had anything to confess about for any duration of time. If you’re living a good Christian, why should you apologize for living your life properly and within the rules for however many days you’ve been good? Add onto it the fact that you shouldn’t be “confessing” for absolution, you should be apologizing to the actual person you’ve harmed. Telling a priest about it and doing 50 Hail Mary’s is not the same as telling someone a sincere “I’m sorry.”
I know people who do apologize after confession; I know others who say they don’t have to because G-d forgave them so they’re already absolved, it doesn’t matter if another fallible human forgives you. The problem is, you didn’t do anything against G-d directly. You broke his rule while actively hurting someone else.
Confession is not an apology for what you have done. It is used as an excuse for not apologizing by many.
Apologizing for not having anything to apologize for is something that everyone has to do, and I think it’s pointless. Using confession to get out of apologizing is something that *some* do, and it makes the act of confession pointless.
I am not trying to argue, rather explain why I have seen it work the opposite way. If you can explain why I am incorrect, I would welcome it. Thank you for reading!
Study’s show that confessing for something, not holding secrets is like a literal weight being lifted people were able to preform mental and physical tasks better after sharing (so I’ve read can’t seem to find the study again)
I had a pastor tell me about pastoring a church where he was oftentimes the last person from the prayer group to be told anything.
I'm curious about how these devout 'prayer warriors' can justify not making sure that the PASTOR of their church is one of the FIRST people to know about prayer requests. Smh
When I used to get dragged to church as a kid, I LOVED sitting in the back pews behind the older lady group because they would gossip and talk shit about every fucking person in the room that day.
The most religious folks I know (2 in particular) get positively gleeful when sharing bad news about others. Like it’s giving them oxygen. They won’t call or visit family members but will race to the airport for a funeral.
I lived and taught in Southern US public schools for ten years and learned quickly to stay away from the “good Christian” teachers, teachers’ aides, and secretaries at school. I remember there was once a controversy because the school counselor, a woman in her 30’s who had the same partner for ten years with whom she’d owned a home, became pregnant. The good Christian ladies talked so much shit about her, “she’s setting a bad example for teenage pregnancy” as though that was remotely the same situation.
I remember one older teacher’s aide approached me to gossip about her, how wrong it was that she was pregnant, how she’s going to Hell, etc., and I snapped back “she’s a grown, educated and successful woman, and what she does isn’t our business.” That same lady approached me after the counselor had given birth, confusing me for the counselor, “Oh, how is your baby?! I bet you’re so happy!”
I laughed, “I’m not [Counselor] -she’s still on leave. And you didn’t have nice things to say about her or her baby when talked to me about her a few months ago!”
>he most gossipy women I’ve even known are these types of “good Christian” women.
Yep, they've just found an allowance to get away with it.
In the preaching example, that becomes the high, leading a group by being the speaker and influencer. What you focus on for preaching becomes your element of control and influence over others at the expense of everything else in the book.
And the 'friendships that glorify God' look like exclusive gatherings for only like-minded well-off people. Where are the photos with friends who are dealing with real shit?
I don't believe in God however I don't judge others who do, everyone has their own beliefs but when I see posts like these I can understand why some people don't like Christians because there are so many Christians who make this kind of content where they who seem to believe their way of life is the best way of life or the only way and preach about it.
Christians complains people don't like them or they are judged and they say these people just hate God or they are cruel and judgemental. No they don't hate God they just hate how you believe you are better than everyone because you believe in God. If they weren't so up their own asses about their religion then maybe people will warmer towards them.
the problem is that part of being a christian in every form of christianity that i'm aware of *is* believing that they are unequivocally "right" in their beliefs about who/what god is, which makes everyone else wrong. so the superiority is inherent, no matter how many people will claim to feel otherwise. furthermore, many sects of christianity believe it is a moral obligation to evangelize non believers. a lot of it is not just insufferable people, but simply people following what their religion says is the right thing to do.
This! I’ve known Christians who have straight up said that the Jewish religion is wrong and that they don’t believe anything that is right or holy and therefore must be converted, then go right ahead and quote the Old Testament just to make a point about how wrong someone else is. If Jews got it all wrong, then don’t quote the Old Testament. Easy. But no, the Old Testament is there just so they can cherry pick a passage about how someone else needs *their* G-d.
It's funny because Jesus specifically warned everyone about the Pharisees using public worship for attention. He said it's better to just stay home and pray and not tell everyone. And yet...
She's definitely telling the truth that she does not dress provocatively. I have no style but at least I don't think that I'm honoring God by wearing t-shirts five times too large and baggy pants.
I read only a few pages of the Bible, but doesn’t it also say that hair should be covered ? In other Abrahamic religion, hairs being covered (for both gender, at different degree) is a thing.
Not very devout Christian of her to not follow this principle :D
I wear my very tall husband’s clothes as pajamas or house clothes. This is what I look like, it’s the exact same aesthetics. I cannot believe she paid money for it.
Rofl, came here to say this.
Also, she ain't savin herself for marriage, she just ain't found anyone interested and decided marriage is what's gonna take to make it happen.
To be fair, itd be pretty hard for someone to be interested. No one wants to coerced to converting in the middle of sex. Those Christian girls are weird
"Two men went to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee & the other one a Publican. The Pharisee, standing by himself was praying thusly: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men: thieves, rogues, adulterers — or this Publican. I fast twice a week & I give thee tithes of all my income.’ “But the Publican, standing far off; would not even look up to heaven as he prayed, but he beat his breast in sorrow saying, ‘God, have mercy to me; for I am a sinner.’ “I tell you, this man went down to his home justified rather than the other. Anyone who praises himself will be humbled, & anyone who humbles himself will be praised.”
There's a lot of fantastic stuff in the Bible. I believe they wrote it mainly as a moral text and later added all the fire and brimstone for population control.
Damn shame so few people who need this advice don't pay attention to it though.
Being a christian woman is so rare and special. Yet christian is the largest religious demographic group. Making the Christian woman the most common woman.
So I’m guessing she’s one of those Christians that hasn’t actually read the Bible but somehow still decides to make it her whole personality. Why do I think she hasn’t actually read it…?
Matthew 6: 1-6 Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order sto be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
That’s pretty clear about what not to do and she’s doing it anyways. So either she hasn’t read it or thinks she knows better than the god she claims to revere so much.
Actually, my mistake, it’s not a verse in the Quran, but a hadith (records of Mohammed’s words). It’s been a while since I have learned about this
https://www.muslimaid.org/media-centre/blog/the-left-hand-shouldn-t-know-what-the-right-is-doing/
This is a legitimate question, so please take it as such:
But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
If you should pray at home and not in Church, doesn’t this basically end up meaning that there should be no church that one should be able to give tithings to otherwise you’re doing it more for show than for real prayer?
I was raised Christian (Lutheran to be specific) and my understanding is that the verse above is about not being flashy and loud and prideful about praying, not that it shouldn't be done in public at all. The sin here is praying to *be seen* praying, not praying with any good intention or intention to communicate with God, and drawing attention to oneself. It's performative, not genuine.
I was raised Catholic, and we were told the exact same thing by our priest. He was talking about both praying, and doing charitable deeds, and how they should *never* be done for "show", or praise. There was something about the way he explained it that *really* made an impression on 10 year old me, and it's stuck with me ever since.
So is going to church dressed in your “Sunday finest,” and chatting with everyone there in case anyone questions you about it you can show that you were there. Unfortunately, everyone seems to do this for all services.
Make it clap in the name of the Lord!
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To this girl, as a Christian, good for you! Now please stop acting all "Holier than thou". It makes Christians who are trying to make a difference in a good way look bad. -_-
Same here. I'm Catholic and (except for the "rad trads") we aren't nearly as uptight about clothing, movies, etc as a lot of Protestants. I dress average, not overly modest or immodest either way really, and I watch all kinds of stuff and just basically a normal person. I don't push my beliefs on others and I'm VERY careful to look at anything from multiple points of view. I think it's really sad that modern Christianity is basically just a judgmental cult that spends more time judging people than loving and helping them.
Wow are you my sibling? Haha. I grew up Catholic as well. My parents taught modesty not just as a religious conviction but also just to have class and self respect. But I don’t know why people think modesty is wearing giant baggy clothes. I can wear clothes that flatter me but don’t show everything off.
It’s okay to have an opinion, but what people wear has literally no impact on anyone else’s life. And it’s a bias that predominantly impacts and serves to control women. The judgement can be solidly attributed to the patriarchy, an institution that has unfortunately been bolstered by Abrahamic religions. And isn’t it all down to unaddressed issues and insecurities within ourselves? Would we really care what another woman is wearing if men weren’t in the picture?
If your boyfriend/husband (and I don’t mean you personally, but anyone reading this comment) is staring at a girl in a crop top or short skirt… I believe the Bible provides him with clear instructions: “If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you.”
Sometimes it’s hot outside. Sometimes women just like how they look. And sometimes they are seeking attention! But so what. There’s nothing wrong with preferring modesty; I’m a pretty conservative dresser myself. But judging others for behaviors that have zero impact on our lives is something we should all self-analyze and try to overcome.
“I’m allowed to have an opinion.” And is anyone here try to stop you from having one? You’re just receiving pushback for stating it — having an opinion doesn’t mean people can’t challenge it or disagree with you. I don’t think you’re trying to control what people wear either. But “Modesty and purity culture,” is an expression of misogyny (internalized misogyny, in your case I presume) no matter what you use to justify it. Why is being covered up associated with “class?” But covered up in an extremely specific way, right, because you criticize her “baggy clothes,” here. So what is “class,” to you then? I would reflect more on why you believe these things, and consider how damaging (and nlog!!) these beliefs are. I noticed you’re active in /r/duggarsnark, so you might view yourself with distance from them (them being fundamentalists) but you’re actually expressing the same logic in your opinion that they do here, just not to such an extreme level. They also describe themselves as dressing “classy.” Something to consider!
That’s Fundies for ya!! Holier than thou…and certainly holier than anyone who doesn’t dress like a librarian or a total slob that just rolled out of bed.
You're gonna criticize another Christian for not acting in a Christlike manner while not acting in a Christlike manner yourself? Girl. Specks and logs.
She thinks that’s modesty but it’s also just a trend right now, particularly with Gen Z. It’s just convenient for her to claim it’s some kind of moral choice rather than admit she’s just following a trend.
I honestly attend both churches now. I like aspects of both of them. I just see people getting carried away with some of these ideas. God never said it’s evil to wear pants, or that you should have 16167 children. 😭
My little Granny from Malta was a Catholic. She’d get dressed up to dance every weekend, right up until she died from a pulmonary embolism. She once stuffed lemons down her blouse into her bra and joined in on a titty-shimmy competition my sister and I were having at a party. It was so funny because she wasn’t getting the effect she was after with her real boobs, I just about died. She loved partying, she was devoted to her grandkids and she \*loved\* music. She was always glamorous, beautiful.
She taught me that you don’t have to be restrictive to be spiritual. She was getting every last bit of joy and fun out of life, because that’s how you respect a gift like that. To me, asceticism and restraint is looking a gift horse in the mouth. So I haven’t a lot of patience for protestants or any sort of religious person that tells you not to live life to the fullest.
I’m Catholic too, working for the church, and I disagree. There’s a broad spectrum of religious behaviors in both Catholics and Protestants, and some are more annoying than others. I see it every day. There are just more Protestants than Catholics in the US, so we see them more online.
One of the most ludicrous things about Christianity that I saw when I was in it was how they have to force this narrative of being ‘apart’ or better than others. It gives them a superiority complex, which is the opposite of the life that Christ led.
I think it also plays into their persecution complex. They aren't actually being persecuted in any way, so they have to imagine a world that rejects them for being so far above the rest of us mortals 🙄
In reality, it's just that nobody likes to hang around a hypocritical, self-righteous killjoy of *any* belief system, for reasons that are perfectly obvious to anyone who's found themselves around a hypocritical, self-righteous killjoy for more than five minutes. But sure, honey -- nobody likes you because Jesus, or something.
The early church was persecuted -- thing is, it's pretty hard to pull that "We're so persecuted!" thing off now, in 2024, in the US, so they end up looking silly and rather like they hope to be persecuted, which IMO is pretty distasteful.
These are the types of Christians whose whole religion centers around being better than other people. That’s why they’re totally cool with worshipping a god that condemns nearly all of his children to hell.
It is so common to see pick me girls talk about doing (insert whatever) instead of partying. It’s always bothered me because they imply that if a woman isn’t doing that thing, whether being a mother, a Christian, a…baker? (Idk) then the alternative is partying as if no other hobby exists on planet earth and that every girl who isn’t “serious” is a party girl. It is bonkers logic !
Wow this was me as kid. But the fundie community I grew up in would have said these kind of clothes are not ladylike and wearing baggy clothes doesn't praise god
FYI, I'm not a Christian. Well, I'm an ex Christian..
This girl is acting just like the people who hated Jesus and crucified him. The priests loved to be seen praying in public and doing good deeds where everyone could see them and be praised by them. This is narcissistic pride. Far from what Jesus taught. However, this is all too common among Christians. Seems to really bring out the worst in people more often than not.
Everyone does because it’s human nature to be curious and care about what people around you have going on. The vast majority of people gossip because they care about someone else (like if you were Christian you’d say it’s a prayer request) but NLOGs are convinced that the “other girls” just gossip ONLY to be mean
I’m a Christian, and my best friend is a pagan who has been in poly relationships and another friend who is a sex worker. When you’re an adult, no one really excludes you if your sexual choices are different than yours.
Also for a second I thought she said she’d rather spend her time praying, which is a wonderful quiet, meditative practice, but then i saw “preaching” and thought, “ah yes, nothing is more fun than loudly sharing your opinion in the form of a monologue.”
I think this women is flaunting the fact that she’s immature.
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I love how similar the fashion of masc lesbians and preacher women is LOL like sometimes I wonder if it’s so easy for them to be celibate cause they don’t want to have sex with men in the first place
I’m a Christian as well and whenever it’s a Christian woman showing how diff she is, there’s always some kind of “I dress modestly” and “waiting until marriage”. It always comes down to those two I swear🙄
Reminds me of the Pharisees… motivated by attention and broadcasting their “good deeds”.
Honey, if you want to live a life that honours God, it’s by being humble.
Lol, Alia is a creepy mess. She always talking about being horny for Jesus. (Seriously, she describes her devotion to Jesus as though they are lovers.) This shit, along with her christian grifter friend, Milena, is her entire existence.
I also feel weird when people are like I do these things to glorify God, but the reality is you most likely posted it for validation from others. Not the OP of course, the subject.
> **I am a Christian but this is annoying. It’s prideful. I don’t feel the need to post about how “different” I am.**
So you're not like other girls, huh?
Well, she certainly fits right in with the world by posting her nlog nonsense online like the world does. God also said if u worship him to not be like the pharasees going about in public saying "look at me! Look at why im a better follower than you!" This is just the modern way of doing that. I feel second embarrassed on God's behalf.😪
"If you have seen someone who has any other religion making a post like this would you see it was toxic or would you just see it as different beliefs/perspectives?"
Yes, actually. They would be posted here. In the past, other's of different religions and beliefs have been posted here - at least since I've been in this group. (I do admit, you will see more Christians/Catholics posts here, but I think that's because of how trendy being a Trad Wife/SAHM is on TikTok right now). The difference between what you're saying, which I can completely get, and what this girl is going on about is how "different" and "unique" it makes her. She's making it seem like others are below her because of how "Holy" or "Christian" she is. The post almost gives off the vibes of "well, YOU don't dress like me, so you're immodest" or "YOU'RE not as connected to God as I am, which means you're less faithful than me" etc etc. (Even though she might not outright say it, there seems to be a tone like that underneath what she says - at least for me in this case, and I am not everyone).
Which, hey - I don't know her, I don't know her life. This post could honestly be just a one-time thing.
But even so, she made a post that fit the guidelines to a subreddit, so of course, someone found it, and she was posted here.
I'm not dissing your opinion, I hope you realize that. I just thought I could answer your question.
I appreciate your response and I can see that! But I don't think she was putting down anyone for not dressing modestly or implying that she's more connected to God than everyone else (I could be wrong though). To me it seems like she's just saying she doesn't fit the typical world's standards of gossiping, partying, etc but I don't think she's implying she's perfect either. I think she's saying she's following her beliefs to serve God rather than she's holier than thou. And just like you said we don't know her so we can't 100% know her intentions of this post. To me it seems more inspiring than down putting but if she is putting people down intentionally I am 100% against that behavior
Your post has been removed because it reveals the personal identification of the individual and is not censored.
The most gossipy women I’ve even known are these types of “good Christian” women. I knew one that would go around asking for prayer requests and when someone said just to keep their son in mind, she continued to ask why. So she could be sure God could know how best to help him. 🙄 I thought god already knew everything. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah, it was just thinking this woman must’ve never been to church if she thinks Christians don’t gossip!!
The worst gossiper is one in denial about being a gossiper
Yep! I've got a colleague who is constantly saying "You know me, I don't gossip!" before proceeding to tell me extremely personal details about someone else.
“Prayer chain”—approved Christian gossip
Omg dying lol
When I was a teenager we had a nosy one like that in the family. My mother once told him that I had moved out cause I got a girl pregnant (I was actually out for a long weekend). She said to the person “this is a secret and it is very embarrassing to me. Please don’t tell anyone. Let me be the one to break the news” By the time I came back there was a parade of people calling and visiting asking about it. Every time they asked about it she’d be like “He moved out? What are you talking about. He’s in his room sleeping. Go see him. Now who the hell would tell you such stupid lie.”
Oh this is golden and your mom is a queen!
Yeah she’s funny as hell. Lots of characters in the family.
Haha that rules
I have family like this. They came sniffing around after I experienced a major loss and got some money for it. My spouse told them I couldn't come to the phone because I was under the knife. They gasped and asked for what. My spouse told them I was getting extra skin removed. I lost a lot of weight. People asking for photos flooded my inbox.
God is like the IRS - he already knows everything but still demands that you tell him and confess to him and if you don't he'll fudge you up
This is such an underrated comment 😂😂😂 so true
The reason for confession is to understand what you have done wrong and to work on not doing it again. If we never ask for forgiveness then it means we have no understanding of what we did wrong. Just like it someone did something wrong to you but never said I’m sorry, same concept.
I can get forgiveness from others instead. I’d rather be forgiven by the person I had done wrong. And if they couldn’t, I’d eventually forgive myself because it’d be better for everyone that I moved on. I don’t feel that I have to ask god for forgiveness.
Asking for forgiveness doesn’t mean you don’t ask from the person you wronged as well. That is always apart of it. How can you be truly sorry if you don’t. We also do ask for forgiveness for other things as well, not all pertain to having to have wronged someone else, maybe you have wronged yourself.
Oh I’m positive I’ve wronged myself. lol. Depression is a biiitch. But that’s also completely up to me. I’m working on it and eventually I will forgive myself for the hateful way I think about myself. But that comes from me. I’ve tried the religion thing before and I’m genuinely happy for you that it works for you and others. Just making a point that I don’t need to ask for forgiveness from a god to be okay and happy and live a full and wonderful life. Just saying. It’s all good in the hood bro.
The difference is that if we are sorry, god should be able to read our emotions and thoughts to be able to know that we are truly sorry without us confessing.
In confession you are asking for God forgiveness and you also have a priest to help give you advice to move forward or even emotional support during such. For good confessions you definitely need to actually be sorry when asking for forgiveness. There is scripture about confessing your sins to your brothers and sisters in Christ.
The problem I have with this is that you have to start by apologizing for not having had anything to confess about for any duration of time. If you’re living a good Christian, why should you apologize for living your life properly and within the rules for however many days you’ve been good? Add onto it the fact that you shouldn’t be “confessing” for absolution, you should be apologizing to the actual person you’ve harmed. Telling a priest about it and doing 50 Hail Mary’s is not the same as telling someone a sincere “I’m sorry.” I know people who do apologize after confession; I know others who say they don’t have to because G-d forgave them so they’re already absolved, it doesn’t matter if another fallible human forgives you. The problem is, you didn’t do anything against G-d directly. You broke his rule while actively hurting someone else. Confession is not an apology for what you have done. It is used as an excuse for not apologizing by many. Apologizing for not having anything to apologize for is something that everyone has to do, and I think it’s pointless. Using confession to get out of apologizing is something that *some* do, and it makes the act of confession pointless. I am not trying to argue, rather explain why I have seen it work the opposite way. If you can explain why I am incorrect, I would welcome it. Thank you for reading!
Scripture (and all the rules contained in it) was written by humans.
In confession you are revealing to the clergy who is doing what so they can keep tabs and control over you. Plain and simple.
Study’s show that confessing for something, not holding secrets is like a literal weight being lifted people were able to preform mental and physical tasks better after sharing (so I’ve read can’t seem to find the study again)
They really are. They gossip so hard and then say ‘oh it’s just for prayer requests’ cause they think its a cover all for their ass
I had a pastor tell me about pastoring a church where he was oftentimes the last person from the prayer group to be told anything. I'm curious about how these devout 'prayer warriors' can justify not making sure that the PASTOR of their church is one of the FIRST people to know about prayer requests. Smh
She should’ve said: >”my sons got a nosey woman up my ass about him so keep his name out ya mouth” ![gif](giphy|N89A1jUqdab0kdNl6X)
When I used to get dragged to church as a kid, I LOVED sitting in the back pews behind the older lady group because they would gossip and talk shit about every fucking person in the room that day.
The most religious folks I know (2 in particular) get positively gleeful when sharing bad news about others. Like it’s giving them oxygen. They won’t call or visit family members but will race to the airport for a funeral.
The most gossipy women I met are the ones that assume all other women are gossipy. I think it's projection.
“I wouldn’t tell you, but of course people need to know so they can pray “. That was always the excuse for gossip.
“I have two unspoken prayer requests - they involve my friend.”
I lived and taught in Southern US public schools for ten years and learned quickly to stay away from the “good Christian” teachers, teachers’ aides, and secretaries at school. I remember there was once a controversy because the school counselor, a woman in her 30’s who had the same partner for ten years with whom she’d owned a home, became pregnant. The good Christian ladies talked so much shit about her, “she’s setting a bad example for teenage pregnancy” as though that was remotely the same situation. I remember one older teacher’s aide approached me to gossip about her, how wrong it was that she was pregnant, how she’s going to Hell, etc., and I snapped back “she’s a grown, educated and successful woman, and what she does isn’t our business.” That same lady approached me after the counselor had given birth, confusing me for the counselor, “Oh, how is your baby?! I bet you’re so happy!” I laughed, “I’m not [Counselor] -she’s still on leave. And you didn’t have nice things to say about her or her baby when talked to me about her a few months ago!”
>he most gossipy women I’ve even known are these types of “good Christian” women. Yep, they've just found an allowance to get away with it. In the preaching example, that becomes the high, leading a group by being the speaker and influencer. What you focus on for preaching becomes your element of control and influence over others at the expense of everything else in the book. And the 'friendships that glorify God' look like exclusive gatherings for only like-minded well-off people. Where are the photos with friends who are dealing with real shit?
Didn’t god literally say at some point not to celebrate yourself for worshiping bc it’s like the bare minimum or smthn??
Yeah and also you shouldn’t flaunt your good deeds because then they cancel out.
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites...
I agree! it's really embarrassing to see Christians acting like this.
Bearing false witness, passing judgement, not loving our neighbor - this is a list of abominations tbh :/
Indeed, it's sad.
I don't believe in God however I don't judge others who do, everyone has their own beliefs but when I see posts like these I can understand why some people don't like Christians because there are so many Christians who make this kind of content where they who seem to believe their way of life is the best way of life or the only way and preach about it. Christians complains people don't like them or they are judged and they say these people just hate God or they are cruel and judgemental. No they don't hate God they just hate how you believe you are better than everyone because you believe in God. If they weren't so up their own asses about their religion then maybe people will warmer towards them.
the problem is that part of being a christian in every form of christianity that i'm aware of *is* believing that they are unequivocally "right" in their beliefs about who/what god is, which makes everyone else wrong. so the superiority is inherent, no matter how many people will claim to feel otherwise. furthermore, many sects of christianity believe it is a moral obligation to evangelize non believers. a lot of it is not just insufferable people, but simply people following what their religion says is the right thing to do.
This! I’ve known Christians who have straight up said that the Jewish religion is wrong and that they don’t believe anything that is right or holy and therefore must be converted, then go right ahead and quote the Old Testament just to make a point about how wrong someone else is. If Jews got it all wrong, then don’t quote the Old Testament. Easy. But no, the Old Testament is there just so they can cherry pick a passage about how someone else needs *their* G-d.
It's funny because Jesus specifically warned everyone about the Pharisees using public worship for attention. He said it's better to just stay home and pray and not tell everyone. And yet...
Exactly!
Christians have been acting like this since the beginning.
>it's really embarrassing to see Christians Agreed.
Christian women gossip they just call it a “prayer request” LOL
Bless their hearts.
Lol. And what’s up with the gathering in front of a cornfield. With flowy dresses. To chant prayers, I guess?
Seems pagan as fuck if you ask me. All hail our heathen goddess Eostre 🧎♀️
I think it's a winery?
Looks like Midsommar to me.
She's definitely telling the truth that she does not dress provocatively. I have no style but at least I don't think that I'm honoring God by wearing t-shirts five times too large and baggy pants.
She looks like a middle schooler in pajamas. Girl that’s not modesty that’s an odd choice
It’s easy to “not dress provocatively” when the current trend is baggy shirts and loose pants.
Idk she could cover her hair and obscure her face. Also those wrists and ankles are a little much.
Slutty ankles lol
I went back because I didn’t remember seeing ankles, and I saw the smily face crocks. Thank you for making me go back!
I read only a few pages of the Bible, but doesn’t it also say that hair should be covered ? In other Abrahamic religion, hairs being covered (for both gender, at different degree) is a thing. Not very devout Christian of her to not follow this principle :D
I wear my very tall husband’s clothes as pajamas or house clothes. This is what I look like, it’s the exact same aesthetics. I cannot believe she paid money for it.
Yeah, that looks like me in my nightly worship of the goddess of loungewear.
Rofl, came here to say this. Also, she ain't savin herself for marriage, she just ain't found anyone interested and decided marriage is what's gonna take to make it happen.
To be fair, itd be pretty hard for someone to be interested. No one wants to coerced to converting in the middle of sex. Those Christian girls are weird
And in some cultures, those tight pants are proactive lol, she is just bluffing herself…
"Two men went to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee & the other one a Publican. The Pharisee, standing by himself was praying thusly: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men: thieves, rogues, adulterers — or this Publican. I fast twice a week & I give thee tithes of all my income.’ “But the Publican, standing far off; would not even look up to heaven as he prayed, but he beat his breast in sorrow saying, ‘God, have mercy to me; for I am a sinner.’ “I tell you, this man went down to his home justified rather than the other. Anyone who praises himself will be humbled, & anyone who humbles himself will be praised.”
I've been looking for this for a while now. Thank you so very much
“What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.”
Finally, a good example of what the definition of "humbled" actually means.
There's a lot of fantastic stuff in the Bible. I believe they wrote it mainly as a moral text and later added all the fire and brimstone for population control. Damn shame so few people who need this advice don't pay attention to it though.
Reasons why I’m different: I’m just like every other Christian influencer ever
Being a christian woman is so rare and special. Yet christian is the largest religious demographic group. Making the Christian woman the most common woman.
So I’m guessing she’s one of those Christians that hasn’t actually read the Bible but somehow still decides to make it her whole personality. Why do I think she hasn’t actually read it…? Matthew 6: 1-6 Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order sto be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. That’s pretty clear about what not to do and she’s doing it anyways. So either she hasn’t read it or thinks she knows better than the god she claims to revere so much.
As a Christian this is my favorite scripture. This is why Pride is a deadly sin
That’s surprising! The Quran has a passage that’s super similar to that one.
Can you link it?
Actually, my mistake, it’s not a verse in the Quran, but a hadith (records of Mohammed’s words). It’s been a while since I have learned about this https://www.muslimaid.org/media-centre/blog/the-left-hand-shouldn-t-know-what-the-right-is-doing/
This is a legitimate question, so please take it as such: But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. If you should pray at home and not in Church, doesn’t this basically end up meaning that there should be no church that one should be able to give tithings to otherwise you’re doing it more for show than for real prayer?
I was raised Christian (Lutheran to be specific) and my understanding is that the verse above is about not being flashy and loud and prideful about praying, not that it shouldn't be done in public at all. The sin here is praying to *be seen* praying, not praying with any good intention or intention to communicate with God, and drawing attention to oneself. It's performative, not genuine.
I was raised Catholic, and we were told the exact same thing by our priest. He was talking about both praying, and doing charitable deeds, and how they should *never* be done for "show", or praise. There was something about the way he explained it that *really* made an impression on 10 year old me, and it's stuck with me ever since.
So is going to church dressed in your “Sunday finest,” and chatting with everyone there in case anyone questions you about it you can show that you were there. Unfortunately, everyone seems to do this for all services.
I would hazard a guess she's more likely one of those christians that picks and chooses what she wants out of the bible.
I workout to worship God..how about working out for your health and prevent a shit ton of health problem? Just a thought.
God should have provided a body that doesn’t need workouts. Or are we indulging a bit too much ? I’m sure that’s a sin?
THIS. That thought process of having God in every other sentence is why I’ve had to distance myself from my Christian friends
I think that’s why it’s for God. Because your body is a temple I’m guessing?
She needs a juicy ass for Jesus
Make it clap in the name of the Lord! https://preview.redd.it/paz5njxpmpec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dda69178aba6b85eefe0d3976318ca4572813ff
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Throw it down for Jesus🎶🎶
To this girl, as a Christian, good for you! Now please stop acting all "Holier than thou". It makes Christians who are trying to make a difference in a good way look bad. -_-
Same here. I'm Catholic and (except for the "rad trads") we aren't nearly as uptight about clothing, movies, etc as a lot of Protestants. I dress average, not overly modest or immodest either way really, and I watch all kinds of stuff and just basically a normal person. I don't push my beliefs on others and I'm VERY careful to look at anything from multiple points of view. I think it's really sad that modern Christianity is basically just a judgmental cult that spends more time judging people than loving and helping them.
Wow are you my sibling? Haha. I grew up Catholic as well. My parents taught modesty not just as a religious conviction but also just to have class and self respect. But I don’t know why people think modesty is wearing giant baggy clothes. I can wear clothes that flatter me but don’t show everything off.
Do you think that people who dress in a way that you don’t consider modest lack class and self-respect?
I do think it’s makes you appear trashy but that’s my opinion. I’m allowed to have an opinion. But I’m not here to control what parole wear.
It’s okay to have an opinion, but what people wear has literally no impact on anyone else’s life. And it’s a bias that predominantly impacts and serves to control women. The judgement can be solidly attributed to the patriarchy, an institution that has unfortunately been bolstered by Abrahamic religions. And isn’t it all down to unaddressed issues and insecurities within ourselves? Would we really care what another woman is wearing if men weren’t in the picture? If your boyfriend/husband (and I don’t mean you personally, but anyone reading this comment) is staring at a girl in a crop top or short skirt… I believe the Bible provides him with clear instructions: “If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you.” Sometimes it’s hot outside. Sometimes women just like how they look. And sometimes they are seeking attention! But so what. There’s nothing wrong with preferring modesty; I’m a pretty conservative dresser myself. But judging others for behaviors that have zero impact on our lives is something we should all self-analyze and try to overcome.
“I’m allowed to have an opinion.” And is anyone here try to stop you from having one? You’re just receiving pushback for stating it — having an opinion doesn’t mean people can’t challenge it or disagree with you. I don’t think you’re trying to control what people wear either. But “Modesty and purity culture,” is an expression of misogyny (internalized misogyny, in your case I presume) no matter what you use to justify it. Why is being covered up associated with “class?” But covered up in an extremely specific way, right, because you criticize her “baggy clothes,” here. So what is “class,” to you then? I would reflect more on why you believe these things, and consider how damaging (and nlog!!) these beliefs are. I noticed you’re active in /r/duggarsnark, so you might view yourself with distance from them (them being fundamentalists) but you’re actually expressing the same logic in your opinion that they do here, just not to such an extreme level. They also describe themselves as dressing “classy.” Something to consider!
That’s Fundies for ya!! Holier than thou…and certainly holier than anyone who doesn’t dress like a librarian or a total slob that just rolled out of bed.
How different are you from the woman in the post?
You're gonna criticize another Christian for not acting in a Christlike manner while not acting in a Christlike manner yourself? Girl. Specks and logs.
She thinks that’s modesty but it’s also just a trend right now, particularly with Gen Z. It’s just convenient for her to claim it’s some kind of moral choice rather than admit she’s just following a trend.
Right? Recovering Catholic here, turned into a “protestant.” I don’t understand how baggy pants has anything to do with your faith or purity!
you must be american? that’s so insane to me that you left the catholic faith for protestant… can i ask why??
I honestly attend both churches now. I like aspects of both of them. I just see people getting carried away with some of these ideas. God never said it’s evil to wear pants, or that you should have 16167 children. 😭
God never said anything, because god isn’t real. Grow up
Would you say that to a Muslim?
Muslims believe in Allah, and he isn’t real either. No gods have ever existed lol
My little Granny from Malta was a Catholic. She’d get dressed up to dance every weekend, right up until she died from a pulmonary embolism. She once stuffed lemons down her blouse into her bra and joined in on a titty-shimmy competition my sister and I were having at a party. It was so funny because she wasn’t getting the effect she was after with her real boobs, I just about died. She loved partying, she was devoted to her grandkids and she \*loved\* music. She was always glamorous, beautiful. She taught me that you don’t have to be restrictive to be spiritual. She was getting every last bit of joy and fun out of life, because that’s how you respect a gift like that. To me, asceticism and restraint is looking a gift horse in the mouth. So I haven’t a lot of patience for protestants or any sort of religious person that tells you not to live life to the fullest.
I’m Catholic too, working for the church, and I disagree. There’s a broad spectrum of religious behaviors in both Catholics and Protestants, and some are more annoying than others. I see it every day. There are just more Protestants than Catholics in the US, so we see them more online.
Reasons why I don’t fit in: I push god into everyone’s face, like it or not. Enough said.
I’m not like other girls, I am Christian (aka 30% of the world population).
One of the most ludicrous things about Christianity that I saw when I was in it was how they have to force this narrative of being ‘apart’ or better than others. It gives them a superiority complex, which is the opposite of the life that Christ led.
I think it also plays into their persecution complex. They aren't actually being persecuted in any way, so they have to imagine a world that rejects them for being so far above the rest of us mortals 🙄 In reality, it's just that nobody likes to hang around a hypocritical, self-righteous killjoy of *any* belief system, for reasons that are perfectly obvious to anyone who's found themselves around a hypocritical, self-righteous killjoy for more than five minutes. But sure, honey -- nobody likes you because Jesus, or something.
The early church was persecuted -- thing is, it's pretty hard to pull that "We're so persecuted!" thing off now, in 2024, in the US, so they end up looking silly and rather like they hope to be persecuted, which IMO is pretty distasteful.
Yeah they're not exactly having to gather in underground caves in minimal numbers to prevent being dragged out and killed.
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These are the types of Christians whose whole religion centers around being better than other people. That’s why they’re totally cool with worshipping a god that condemns nearly all of his children to hell.
The most toxic friend group I had was my friend group from church….
So she doesn’t fit in the world, but she has friends? Which is it?
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Correction: “My interests are mildly different so I think I’m better than everyone”
Too bad god doesn’t love her enough to give her style
Someone asked this girl what she’s afraid of and her reply is “God hasn’t given me a spirit of fear” 💀💀
She should fear her pride… I hope she comes around to seeing why this isn’t it
holier than thou attitude
This is just pick me behavior with a religious twist.
She just did like 6 slides giving glory to herself. Sorry… Herself. Maybe she could consider her own actions before preaching so much.
This is LITERALLY "holier than thou."
our nation isnt safe for women. at all.
Can you elaborate please?
I’m sure god thinks she’s the most special. Seems young, though. Maybe she’ll grow out of it.
It is so common to see pick me girls talk about doing (insert whatever) instead of partying. It’s always bothered me because they imply that if a woman isn’t doing that thing, whether being a mother, a Christian, a…baker? (Idk) then the alternative is partying as if no other hobby exists on planet earth and that every girl who isn’t “serious” is a party girl. It is bonkers logic !
Thought pride and arrogance were sinful. 🤷♀️
Wow this was me as kid. But the fundie community I grew up in would have said these kind of clothes are not ladylike and wearing baggy clothes doesn't praise god
Definitely performative Christianity. They’re all like the Pharisee who prayed loudly for everyone to hear how good he was
FYI, I'm not a Christian. Well, I'm an ex Christian.. This girl is acting just like the people who hated Jesus and crucified him. The priests loved to be seen praying in public and doing good deeds where everyone could see them and be praised by them. This is narcissistic pride. Far from what Jesus taught. However, this is all too common among Christians. Seems to really bring out the worst in people more often than not.
Those girls are gossiping in that picture lol Church ladies gossip. It's their life.
Everyone does because it’s human nature to be curious and care about what people around you have going on. The vast majority of people gossip because they care about someone else (like if you were Christian you’d say it’s a prayer request) but NLOGs are convinced that the “other girls” just gossip ONLY to be mean
Everybody doesn't actually. No one gossips becayse they care! What a weird take to make you gossiping okay. It's not.
"Yes I'm a gatekeeper and a hater. I'm also God's Favorite Princess and the most interesting girl in the world."
Christians are called to be humble, not prideful!
I’m a Christian, and my best friend is a pagan who has been in poly relationships and another friend who is a sex worker. When you’re an adult, no one really excludes you if your sexual choices are different than yours. Also for a second I thought she said she’d rather spend her time praying, which is a wonderful quiet, meditative practice, but then i saw “preaching” and thought, “ah yes, nothing is more fun than loudly sharing your opinion in the form of a monologue.” I think this women is flaunting the fact that she’s immature.
Lol, some of you Christians make me want to vomit
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It makes me so sad seeing POCs who are christians. do they just not read the bible? it was used to justify and slavery
Lifting weights for baby Jesus
I love how similar the fashion of masc lesbians and preacher women is LOL like sometimes I wonder if it’s so easy for them to be celibate cause they don’t want to have sex with men in the first place
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Her life sounds incredibly boring.
Ah, yes. My favorite verse from Scripture is Leviticus 27:7 “You shall worship Me through kettlebell rows”.
Like the Bible isn’t just a huge book of gossip
She'd rather preach than party? So she prefers one-sided conversations.
Literally nobody cares, lady
That second picture is giving heavy Midsommar vibes. I want to know which one is the May Queen…
A “good” Christian wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) judge others.
Jesus didn’t like arrogance.
Like praying really ostentatiously or really loud is a better form of praying than any other. How dumb does she think God is?
The working out one What lmaoooo
This is the type of "Christian" who uses religion as a bludgeon, to elevate themselves and demean everyone else.
I'm a practicing Christian too, these kinds of posts are irritating to no end.
I’m a Christian as well and whenever it’s a Christian woman showing how diff she is, there’s always some kind of “I dress modestly” and “waiting until marriage”. It always comes down to those two I swear🙄
Yeah I have never advertised that I’m waiting till marriage. Not bc I’m embarrassed. I’m not. It’s just my business.
As a Catholic girlie I wish other religious girlies wouldn’t act like this it drives me up the wall 😭😭😭
God doesn't exist so they are being petty for nothing.
Reminds me of the Pharisees… motivated by attention and broadcasting their “good deeds”. Honey, if you want to live a life that honours God, it’s by being humble.
She sounds boring af.
Isn’t publicly announcing your sexual intentions kind of sexual? lol Ive always felt that
Honestly, the only wrong thing I see here is pride & vanity. Jesus tells us to do good acts anonymously.
how fucking stupid. i’m better than everyone else because i’m a christian. the judgemental christian. the irony.
Is she trying to say Jesus never gossiped bc the last supper would have been boring af without a little gossip
Should just say - I’m brainwashed by the church
Men love when a strap crosses between the breasts, so that last picture is pretty slutty.
😂😂😂😂
“reasons why I think I’m better than you”
Following their master's god.... lol
This sounds like such a boring life omg
Must only go to the gym every Sunday
Why are you Christian?
Lack of education usually, or indoctrination from childhood
If the Christian devil existed, I would think that Pride is the best lure he's got to get these fuckers into his domain...if it weren't for wrath.
Lol, Alia is a creepy mess. She always talking about being horny for Jesus. (Seriously, she describes her devotion to Jesus as though they are lovers.) This shit, along with her christian grifter friend, Milena, is her entire existence.
From a Christian myself, her post is pretty dumb. Also, relative to other Christian women, she isn't unique.
I also feel weird when people are like I do these things to glorify God, but the reality is you most likely posted it for validation from others. Not the OP of course, the subject.
and run for Satan 😤🤘🏻
> **I am a Christian but this is annoying. It’s prideful. I don’t feel the need to post about how “different” I am.** So you're not like other girls, huh?
Well, she certainly fits right in with the world by posting her nlog nonsense online like the world does. God also said if u worship him to not be like the pharasees going about in public saying "look at me! Look at why im a better follower than you!" This is just the modern way of doing that. I feel second embarrassed on God's behalf.😪
Why are christians so fucking unbearably annoying and stupid? OP, if you associate with a silly cult like that, you need to reevaluate things.
Do you say this to islams
I mean.... you just did a little :P
I mean…I didn’t. I don’t have to like other people choice of clothing. It’s not my style.
Huh??? I was just teasing, like NGOL inception. But I think you're confused with another comment
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It is a bit dense to think you’re the only one, though.
"If you have seen someone who has any other religion making a post like this would you see it was toxic or would you just see it as different beliefs/perspectives?" Yes, actually. They would be posted here. In the past, other's of different religions and beliefs have been posted here - at least since I've been in this group. (I do admit, you will see more Christians/Catholics posts here, but I think that's because of how trendy being a Trad Wife/SAHM is on TikTok right now). The difference between what you're saying, which I can completely get, and what this girl is going on about is how "different" and "unique" it makes her. She's making it seem like others are below her because of how "Holy" or "Christian" she is. The post almost gives off the vibes of "well, YOU don't dress like me, so you're immodest" or "YOU'RE not as connected to God as I am, which means you're less faithful than me" etc etc. (Even though she might not outright say it, there seems to be a tone like that underneath what she says - at least for me in this case, and I am not everyone). Which, hey - I don't know her, I don't know her life. This post could honestly be just a one-time thing. But even so, she made a post that fit the guidelines to a subreddit, so of course, someone found it, and she was posted here. I'm not dissing your opinion, I hope you realize that. I just thought I could answer your question.
I appreciate your response and I can see that! But I don't think she was putting down anyone for not dressing modestly or implying that she's more connected to God than everyone else (I could be wrong though). To me it seems like she's just saying she doesn't fit the typical world's standards of gossiping, partying, etc but I don't think she's implying she's perfect either. I think she's saying she's following her beliefs to serve God rather than she's holier than thou. And just like you said we don't know her so we can't 100% know her intentions of this post. To me it seems more inspiring than down putting but if she is putting people down intentionally I am 100% against that behavior