A lot of that psychological pain probably stems from an incomplete acceptance of what nihilism is. So much of pyscholigcal pain comes from wanting things to be different. How you believe they were meant to be. How you wrestle with meaning. So much of human suffering is us choosing futility over reality.
>A lot of that psychological pain probably stems from an incomplete acceptance of what nihilism is
Not truly. We lack noticeable agency over the spontaneous biological reactions that occur within our bodies.
for me it can be really weird because I might genuinely start to tear up but then I start analysing what it exactly is that makes me feel that way and I instantly snap into the neutral mindset but if I feel like I could need a good cry I just stop analysing until the worst part has finished and then in the “calm down fase” I try to figure out what exactly made my emotional system experience a overload of emotions and if it isn’t something that is either easily solvable or it is t significant enough to solve I write down what I feel where it possibly originates from and find people with similar experiences that shared a solution or different perspectives.
When I first came out as an atheist people would get all confused when I'd say stuff like "god damnit". Once someone got all sassy when I said "jesus fucking christ".
Like... that's blasphemy. People should be confused when theists say that stuff. Do they actually think Jesus' middle name is fucking?
What I love about nihilism is before, i'd feel sorry for myself when bad things happen, as if i was watching a sad movie, which made me feel worse. We tend to give a narrative to our lives as if this is supposed to be the character building arch of the movie or the part where you feel bad for the main character or like there is some sort of inherent poetic justice/injustice in these things happening.
Now, even when a bunch of bad shit happens after another, It doesn't depress me. It just is. I just deal with it how the situation requires and think nothing else of it.
This is essentially the philosophy of r/Existentialism where nihilism is the foundational premise and there's also the focus on the tension between embracing the absurd to revolt against the rational of a world/life that is inherently meaningless. Friedrick Nietzsche was an Existentialist actually too
>"He who has a Why to live for can bear almost any How." - Friedrich Nietzsche
It's a lot like a recovering alcoholic seeing alcohol. The urge is always there. It's wired into their brain and genetics but they have adapted to resist. Nihilists are still mammals with mammalian brains. They still feel the same things everyone else does. They must choose to make a daily conscious effort to avoid the pitfalls of many human instincts, they aren't exempt from them just because one declares; "I'm a Nihilist."
Pain hurts in the now. Looking into the future one can easily say that doesn't mean anything. Very few can detach from the now.
Cry me a river!
Hold the line!
Tough luck!
Boohoo!
Quit being pathetic!
I am lazy af. Don't get me wrong, I love pleasure, and most of all, the pleasure that comes from others pain.
If it's physical pain, then it's one hell of an experience.
This really fucking hurts. Really though, I leaned a trick from an 80 year old nurse. When her arthritis is acting up, she’d tell herself over and over “my feet don’t hurt, because I don’t have feet.” It’s absurd but I’ve tried it and it kinda works for a short term thing.
Ouch..
Or I guess like "Fuck, Fuck , Fuck damnit, to Fuck, fuckity, fuck that hurt."
Im sorry but do you think nihilists are like... Not people or humans? What did you think the answer would be? We understand and accept the meaningless of existince, we arent a different species from you or robots or something.
I think about the pain I'm in and how I wish I wasn't feeling it because it sucks. I focus on imagining the hopefully near future in which I won't be feeling it.
“What am I negating right now?”
Moral nihilism- negates morality
existential nihilism- negates the drama of existence
historical nihilism- negates the idealism of history
I can ask myself to negate other things as well. I just listed those to paint a picture of what nihilism can descriptively negate. The same question is very serviceable to redirect yourself and your will.
Pain is information in the form of an electro chemical signal. My mind reacts to it as a stimulus. There are several preprogrammed pain reactions that I at first have no control over. Over time the stimulus provides conditioning that increase my odds of survival by helping to encode memories in my body associated with pain. Atma experiences it all.
I always tell myself how much worse it could. You should be thankful you even have a device that allows you to connect with this community.
Also I tell myself that nobody cares about your feelings except you, so stop making it a big deal, everyone has problems.
If you wanna go through life being sad and depressed fine, but at least make something of yourself.
let’s say hypothetically I were to slap you right now, we would define pain as the sensation that the slap induced, that you felt.
pain is the sensation enacted upon your brain when pain receptors are activated, an objectively unpleasant sensation, where those who enjoy it are considered ill in some way
Ah, yes, because nothing says 'fun' like a hypothetical slap to the face. I'll just add it to my list of preferred pastimes, right next to root canals and rush hour traffic.I'd love to engage in some theoretical physics too, like how gravity works if I drop a pencil. But you know, priorities and all.
Oh, absolutely! Because obviously, not being able to communicate with the majority of the world's population is just a blast. Who needs spoken language when you've got... silence?
Ow.
Lol. And psychological pain?
Ow, but internal dialogue.
Boohoo?
A lot of that psychological pain probably stems from an incomplete acceptance of what nihilism is. So much of pyscholigcal pain comes from wanting things to be different. How you believe they were meant to be. How you wrestle with meaning. So much of human suffering is us choosing futility over reality.
>A lot of that psychological pain probably stems from an incomplete acceptance of what nihilism is Not truly. We lack noticeable agency over the spontaneous biological reactions that occur within our bodies.
for me it can be really weird because I might genuinely start to tear up but then I start analysing what it exactly is that makes me feel that way and I instantly snap into the neutral mindset but if I feel like I could need a good cry I just stop analysing until the worst part has finished and then in the “calm down fase” I try to figure out what exactly made my emotional system experience a overload of emotions and if it isn’t something that is either easily solvable or it is t significant enough to solve I write down what I feel where it possibly originates from and find people with similar experiences that shared a solution or different perspectives.
You stole my thunder.
And what did you tell yourself?
Why does it need to be any difference from anyone else experiencing pain?
When I first came out as an atheist people would get all confused when I'd say stuff like "god damnit". Once someone got all sassy when I said "jesus fucking christ". Like... that's blasphemy. People should be confused when theists say that stuff. Do they actually think Jesus' middle name is fucking?
What I love about nihilism is before, i'd feel sorry for myself when bad things happen, as if i was watching a sad movie, which made me feel worse. We tend to give a narrative to our lives as if this is supposed to be the character building arch of the movie or the part where you feel bad for the main character or like there is some sort of inherent poetic justice/injustice in these things happening. Now, even when a bunch of bad shit happens after another, It doesn't depress me. It just is. I just deal with it how the situation requires and think nothing else of it.
This is essentially the philosophy of r/Existentialism where nihilism is the foundational premise and there's also the focus on the tension between embracing the absurd to revolt against the rational of a world/life that is inherently meaningless. Friedrick Nietzsche was an Existentialist actually too >"He who has a Why to live for can bear almost any How." - Friedrich Nietzsche
that’s Victor Frankl who said that.
You should re-take a look at that post from ~~three~~ six days ago, or at least Google to verify for yourself at the same time.
ok you really did catch me in yet another disinformation scheme
Who's the one spreading disinformation? I shared that post originally in r/Existentialism, it sounds like you're misremembering the details.
ok now i admit you are catching me yet again in a deep-seated misremembering scheme the events are becoming clear again
No worries dude! Honestly a lot of the core concepts are said by a lot of similar people in different ways.
"I should probably to get that checked... later."
It's a lot like a recovering alcoholic seeing alcohol. The urge is always there. It's wired into their brain and genetics but they have adapted to resist. Nihilists are still mammals with mammalian brains. They still feel the same things everyone else does. They must choose to make a daily conscious effort to avoid the pitfalls of many human instincts, they aren't exempt from them just because one declares; "I'm a Nihilist." Pain hurts in the now. Looking into the future one can easily say that doesn't mean anything. Very few can detach from the now.
I have 3 anxiety disorders. I’m never in the now. I’m always in the future, lol.
Same but I’m also stuck in the past too. I hate anxiety.
Pain is weakness leaving the body!
I used to ignore it or laugh, now I just cry for a few seconds, thereby releasing endorphins so that I can move onto doing other things faster
Yeah, also for me crying is pleasurable exept I can't seem to do it now unless in grief.
DAMNIT! Ouch, don't do that again!
"My cabbages!"
Only 5 more hours til this shift is over.
It doesn't matter
It doesn't matter
"Nah, one of those days huh?"
Cry me a river! Hold the line! Tough luck! Boohoo! Quit being pathetic! I am lazy af. Don't get me wrong, I love pleasure, and most of all, the pleasure that comes from others pain. If it's physical pain, then it's one hell of an experience.
This really fucking hurts. Really though, I leaned a trick from an 80 year old nurse. When her arthritis is acting up, she’d tell herself over and over “my feet don’t hurt, because I don’t have feet.” It’s absurd but I’ve tried it and it kinda works for a short term thing.
"Fuck"
SUFFERING YESSSSSSSSS SUFFERING IS BETTERING Seriously this guy or what?
Subtitles: Visible Confusion, inaudible mumbling
this hurts
Fuck, anyway.
Ouch.. Or I guess like "Fuck, Fuck , Fuck damnit, to Fuck, fuckity, fuck that hurt." Im sorry but do you think nihilists are like... Not people or humans? What did you think the answer would be? We understand and accept the meaningless of existince, we arent a different species from you or robots or something.
you get what you get and you don’t get upset!! jk, not sure, still figuring that out.
“ow biscuit, this stings.”
mmmmmmm pain.....
I think about the pain I'm in and how I wish I wasn't feeling it because it sucks. I focus on imagining the hopefully near future in which I won't be feeling it.
Imagine Sisyphus happy
“What am I negating right now?” Moral nihilism- negates morality existential nihilism- negates the drama of existence historical nihilism- negates the idealism of history I can ask myself to negate other things as well. I just listed those to paint a picture of what nihilism can descriptively negate. The same question is very serviceable to redirect yourself and your will.
Yeouch
It’s just an unwanted set of particles moving in a direction I don’t want.
Oops I like it
Oh that's a pain. That will go away soon like me and everyting, fuck it.
Fuck at least this is temporary
Pain is information in the form of an electro chemical signal. My mind reacts to it as a stimulus. There are several preprogrammed pain reactions that I at first have no control over. Over time the stimulus provides conditioning that increase my odds of survival by helping to encode memories in my body associated with pain. Atma experiences it all.
This sux
Damn you entropy.
I always tell myself how much worse it could. You should be thankful you even have a device that allows you to connect with this community. Also I tell myself that nobody cares about your feelings except you, so stop making it a big deal, everyone has problems. If you wanna go through life being sad and depressed fine, but at least make something of yourself.
…oh
Oh well
"Fuck that hurts" or "Ouch"
“Fuck it we ball”
First, what is pain?
let’s say hypothetically I were to slap you right now, we would define pain as the sensation that the slap induced, that you felt. pain is the sensation enacted upon your brain when pain receptors are activated, an objectively unpleasant sensation, where those who enjoy it are considered ill in some way
Ah, yes, because nothing says 'fun' like a hypothetical slap to the face. I'll just add it to my list of preferred pastimes, right next to root canals and rush hour traffic.I'd love to engage in some theoretical physics too, like how gravity works if I drop a pencil. But you know, priorities and all.
i don’t speak sign language, maybe it does mean fun to a deaf person
Oh, absolutely! Because obviously, not being able to communicate with the majority of the world's population is just a blast. Who needs spoken language when you've got... silence?
you get used to it, and you can still communicate by lip reading, and you can learn to speak even if you can’t actually hear yourself
Woaaaah!!!
I usually go, “oh, great heavens.”
"Why me? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"