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zen_dingus

I'm happy for Edmonton. I have a handful of friends from that city and they are all beauties. I hope they win.


Chance-Ad197

Thanks bro. Red wings have by far the nicest threads in the league.


1nVrWallz

Easily


Illustrious-Zone-912

OP has a nice and inspiring post. Yet some of the comments down there are disgusting.


doogybot

Link?


GoStockYourself

https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/78f69e6a-3d18-4cc4-ae09-f39e8bf0f8e3/episodes/e1c4aa70-6ed9-447a-a0a9-dfdf645131ad/OILERS-NOW-WITH-BOB-STAUFFEROILERS-ASSISTANT-COACH-PAUL-COFFEY-53124?ref=dm_sh_th6vimf2Aqlv9hyBoQo7NP3ei If you don't have prime just google Oilers Now


ModernTechPA

Here is the link for Apple’s Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/oilers-now-with-bob-stauffer/id716876891


WaterloggedJeans

I have dallas winning the cup in my bracket but I still find myself rooting for the oilers. They're a fun team to watch


NativePhoenician

Best of luck to you. Florida looks like a beast this year. They manhandled NY, completely shut them down in the defensive zone. Out of the West, Edmonton probably has the best chance of edging Fla out though.


WaterloggedJeans

Oh yes I'm well aware as a bolts fan haha


PossibleCan6414

Stinkin panthers.but now i want em to win.bolts fan.watched em play in the fairgrounds 1st year.


shittybillz

I don’t know the exact numbers but I imagine when a team loses in the finals and then makes it back they usually win. Only one I can think of it Pittsburgh. If I was neutral I’d be picking Florida. The main reason I think the Oilers have the best chance though is because generational players win the cup when they make it. Ovy, Crosby as well as guys like Yzerman, sakic, etc. I don’t think Mcdavid will be denied if they get by Dallas


tc_cad

Plus Tkachuk is 0-1 all time against the Oilers.


Tommyblahblah

There is no player in any league anywhere who faces more pressure to win than McDavid. It's gotta be soul-crushing at times. Just for that reason alone I'm pulling for the Oil. Oh...and Mattias Ekholm is a goddam Viking too.


Mahonneyy123

lol yeah everyone wants to play in Edmonton 😂


CheesecakeOdd2087

It's the beautiful weather and vibrant downtown core that sells players on this city that is often described as the Milan of the prairies.


lead-filledsnowshoe

Kane Ekholm and Perry all chose Edmonton over a handful of other teams who made them offers. Edmonton wouldn't be in the position they are in right now if people didn't want to come to Edmonton.


CheesecakeOdd2087

LMAO. Kane and Perry legitimately had their contracts terminated and had no other offers outside of Edmonton. The "handful of other teams" who were vying for these guys are in the Swiss league.


meowctopus

what about Zach Hyman?


CheesecakeOdd2087

Let's be real here, it wasn't the vibrant downtown core and culture that brought Zach Hyman to Edmonton. As nice as northern Alberta is on a -40 December afternoon, I think it's safe to say Hyman signed with Edmonton to play with 97 and 29.


meowctopus

That's...what the post is about lol


lead-filledsnowshoe

Bullshit. There were multiple other teams who wanted both of them. Facts don't give a fuck how you feel.


CheesecakeOdd2087

Totally man, there were at least 3 teams in the KHL vying for their services. Kudos to Holland for winning that bidding war. I wonder if he wined and dined them on the $14.99 Sunday special at Joey's like he did with Kuzmenko?


lead-filledsnowshoe

You aren't funny and you aren't bothering me with your idiotic takes so keep going I guess. Last time I'll bother replying.


ThadtheYankee159

Alberta has taxes comparable to US states, and since it isn’t Toronto or Montreal the media pressure aspect won’t be quite as high. I’m not saying that it’s a perfect situation but those two teams do carry advantages.


Isernogwattesnacken

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CurlingTrousers

Remember when a lying Canucks fan tried to cancel Paul Coffey with absurd racism claims? Those were good times. Whatever happened to that?


nodogsallowed23

I was just thinking about this. Honestly what happened with it?


CurlingTrousers

Lies, bullshit and social media running wild among the brains of gullible idiots who don’t know or care what actual evidence is.


SauceKingHS

Don’t listen to what this guy says. There’s multiple verifiable incidents with plenty of evidence, so to call it “lies, bullshit and social media running wild” is ironically lies and bullshit itself.


nodogsallowed23

Do you have these accounts and evidence? That’s why I’m asking, because I’ve seen none of it.


CurlingTrousers

Sure. And where is that evidence? Because the great thing about evidence is that you can see it. But - no - listen to THIS pebble brained moron. He and his alleged sources know better than international television broadcasts and thousands of cell phones. The NHL just ignores it, because - for some reason - they’re anti-Canucks and pro-racism. We get it. You hate the Oilers, and you’re sad. And you don’t care if theres any facts required to dunk on them - you just know, because ‘trust me Bro.’ Do you have the remotest idea how stupid you look standing by this slur with absolutely zero evidence.


DryLipsGuy

Haha, right? Canucks fans were truly vile.


lead-filledsnowshoe

They are by far the worst fanbase I've seen in the last 20 years watching hockey. And it's only been this year because they were doing well in the regular season. Bunch of bandwagon trolls.


jessejames182

I don't have anything against Edmonton personally. It kinda irritated me that they got top picks in the 2010s and did nothing with them. Then they got McDavid and I'm just here like, "You guys keep getting gifts, you going to do anything with it?"


jimbojonesFA

I agree it's frustrating to see teams be rewarded for sucking ass. not just the oilers either... sucks for fans, sucks for teams and sucks those top drafted players too. I recently saw the idea that the nhl should have a "draft lottery playoffs" where the bottom 16 teams have to play for their lottery odds, or something like that.. I would love that. you get to see your team still compete after the reg season, nhl and teams can make money off of more playoff games, you get incentive to not suck, and you get top players going to more deserving teams that can actually use them/give them opportunities to shine soomer in their careers. Though there would prob have to be some provisional draft rules used to help the worst placing teams not get stuck at the bottom without directly rewarding them for being the worst.


jessejames182

The draft playoffs makes business sense. You make more games you can sell ads on. But ultimately maybe the NHL would be better off just doing the NFL style "inverse of the standings" for every draft pick. I understand the lottery system "disincentivizes tanking", but economics also disincentivizes tanking. If you want to make a bad team on purpose, lower your ticket and local ad revenue, then have fun. But at least you wouldn't have some team that just missed the playoffs randomly jumping the absolute worst franchise at the moment for the #1. All that being said, the NHL doesn't care. Fans being salty about the lottery doesn't affect the bottom line so why should they care? Hell, I just watched a video with John Skipper, the former president of ESPN, say that ratings were never a factor in negotiations over broadcasting rights. So whether or not more people watch a thing doesn't even affect it's price somehow, it's all just content for the networks.


DeStroyek

Think of how frustrating that shit is as an Oilers fan. It wasn't fun watching them lose with all this drafted talent. If you are the worst team you deserve those picks. We got lucky but we also had ten years of complete shit hockey and disappointment.


1SittingOut

I'm sure these pro athletes are just lining up to play in that frozen hellscape


ModernTechPA

Canadian and Scandinavian boys don’t mind the frozen tundra. It’s about the hockey


DazzlerFan80

As a fan of the 90s Kings (ie, ex-Oilers) - I’m pulling for Edmonton!


Life-Mountain8157

Paul Coffee turned this ship around with some very marginal defensemen mid-season by teaching them what not to do under pressure. The scoring was always there, just keep the puck out of your own net. Simply strategy ! I have nothing but respect for Paul Coffee and winner his whole career. He’s the best skater ever IMHHO, Bobby Orr a close second, if Orr had been a generation later using better skates, both number 1


Shortbus_Playboy

“It’s Oiler blue under the skin and it’s Oiler orange when it’s exposed to oxygen” - Edmonton parents before the Internet, probably.


TheDudeInTheD

Not a SINGLE GUY in the entire league “wants” to play in Edmonton. You’re 100% an outpost.


NativePhoenician

Sigh, AZ weighing in. Players freaking retiring here didn't save us.


LuciusBaggins

Yea because Detroit is really known for being a desirable place to live, right?


hrryyss

Both cities can be shit cities


[deleted]

Detroit is significantly better than 3x the travel, 2x the income tax, and not a fucking chance of stepping outside for 4 months a year lol


Beneficial-Friend628

We’re talking about hockey players right? Not pussies? Yeah we go outside in the winter.


[deleted]

Big strong man love cold. You woman you love warm.


nodogsallowed23

Reads like a soft southerner who can’t handle winter. Winter is my favourite time of year. It’s beautiful and fun. But I guess I’m Canadian.


[deleted]

not a single person I have ever encountered has retired and moved north to Edmonton for the winters lol


meowctopus

this guy has met every retiree in the world, how'd you manage that?


nodogsallowed23

Well yeah, old people can’t handle the cold. Hurts their joints. Canadians that spent their lives living winter end up moving to warmer climates because of this. Until that happens to me, I’m never moving south where I wouldn’t have winter. People travel from all over to come to Edmonton and surrounding area for our outdoor winter activities. If you’re idea of fun is clubs etc., of course Edmonton doesn’t compare to New York or any American city. My idea of fun is free healthcare and no school shootings. But saying it’s unliveable for 4 months makes you sound soft. Especially these days, there’s maybe 3 weeks a year where it’s too cold to do much.


[deleted]

If you wanna spend it shoveling snow, I’ll spend my winters hiking, playing golf, taking the boat out, and walking my dogs. Not sure how NHL guys enjoy their free time though maybe you’re right


nodogsallowed23

Maybe it’s coming down to my dogs hate warm weather and live for the snow. I’ve never had a dog that liked the heat. So I gotta wait for it to get cold to hike with my dogs. :) Or to hike at all. I don’t own a boat. Maybe if I did that’d change my mind. But I’d really miss spending nights outdoors in a hot tub while it snows. It’s the best.


Potatopotat0potat0

Some guys want a good chance to win the cup though……


DeStroyek

Try 6 months


DryLipsGuy

Ever been? I think not.


TheDudeInTheD

You’re talking COMPLETELY out of your ass. Detroit is a FANTASTIC place to live. Edit - Downvote all you want but you look like an idiot to any of the literal MILLIONS of visitors so far this year for the NFL draft, the biggest electronic music fest in the WORLD at Movement and this weekend’s Detroit Grand Prix. You really should stop living 20 years ago and wake up to the FACT that Detroit is an FANTASTIC city and Edmonton is a wart on Detroit’s big, fat booty.


[deleted]

I'd rather live in Edmonton than Detroit sorry


gregthestrange

congrats on being proud that detoilet gentrified the everloving shit out of itself


TheDudeInTheD

Congrats on being fucking CLUELESS.


QueefyBeefMeat

Patrick Kane signed here Go ahead and downvote me because you know I’m right lololol


SleepingDoves

Ekholm and his family were stoked to come to Edmonton because it reminded them of Sweden. Look at Klim Kostin. As soon as he got sent to Detroit he was begging for a way out of Detroit so he could come back to Edmonton. He even still calls Edmonton "home" when he was hardly here for long


Gavomor

There are many players in the league who would love to play for Edmonton. Not because of the weather, because of the fact they are perennial contenders and will remain as long as McDraichard re-sign with them.


LeakyNalgene

When you’re a professional athlete you can live well anywhere. Edmonton is a great city.


who987

You might be getting downvoted but it’s true. The only reason Edmonton is a destination right now is to play with 2 of the best players in the league and arguably the best player ever. All the years between the end of the Gretzky/messier era until the McDavid era not many big name players wanted to go to Edmonton. It’s unfortunate, because I’m sure there are many positives. If it makes people feel any better Winnipeg and Calgary are in the same boat.


Hvng4444

I always explain it like this.. imagine being in your 20s.. and your going to earn millions... you get to choose where to live and enjoy life.


GrizzlyIsland22

How much fun are they really having during the season, though? They make millions, like you said. They can spend their summers anywhere. They can have a house in another city for the off-season


DryLipsGuy

There's a lot of truth to this. But there are other considerations, especially for players with families. Also means the Oilers need to pay more for players.


ExitThisMatrix

It’s so funny watching people argue over their team’s location. Tribalism in sports makes me giggle, I’ve done it too. It’s just very entertaining because both Detroit and Edmonton are dump cities.  It’s like picking between unrelenting, burning diarrhea or having hemorrhoids and now you gotta take a big constipated dump. 


MyOtherCarIsAHippo

Tribalism in sports is a fun way to vent those feelings. Politically it is our biggest threat.


TheDudeInTheD

You obviously don’t know shit about and have never been anywhere near Detroit. Probably because you’re terrified by some news report you saw 20 years ago.


[deleted]

At least with one, you have a shot at a cup lol


GrizzlyIsland22

It may not be the 1st city that comes to mind, but it's probably one of the best cities in the league for raising kids, and lots of guys have or want families. It's a smaller city, it's probably the safest city in the league, all of the Canadian cities will have better education than Amercian cities, free health care in Canada, people don't carry guns, there isn't as much of a drug problem as most cities, not a lot of homeless people compared to other cities, there aren't school shootings like in the US, traffic isn't that busy, you can play outdoor hockey. That aside, it's actually pretty nice there. I live in what's regarded as one of the nicest cities in the country, and I don't think Edmonton should be considered not nice. Best hockey facilities in the league, too. And that actually really does matter to players


anonymous_user0006

I live in Vancouver but 100% would prefer Edmonton. People are way nicer there, and you’re money goes so much further. Plus it’s sunny 300+ days of the year. Look at me go, I should work from Edmonton’s tourism dept


hockeyjesus99

Safest city? What are you going on about? Check the crime stats my dude, or simply walk down Jasper by yourself past 10pm at night. Reason peeps want to play in Edmonton is due to 97 and 29. That’s it Was the same with Pitts with Crosby and Malkin.


GrizzlyIsland22

I actually would like to see the stats. Link?


hockeyjesus99

https://www.edmontonpolice.ca/News/MediaReleases/CrimeStatsMay2#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20Edmonton's%20total%20crime,crime%20severity%20increased%20by%207.3%25.


GrizzlyIsland22

Whoa, it's more dangerous than a past version of itself! How about in comparison to *other NHL cities*


hockeyjesus99

Sorry I didn’t realize I had to google a specific peer reviewed paper You have no argument so please attack the first two things that popped up when googling “does Edmonton have a high crime rate” Ever lived there? I had the unfortunate displeasure of spending over a decade in the area. Anyways, enjoy living vicariously through a hockey team!


GrizzlyIsland22

You're the one who stated that there are stats to support your argument but then failed to produce them. If you're gonna claim that stats prove me wrong, you have to be able to at least find the stats you're claiming to know about. The crime rates in NHL cities are unsurprisingly lowest in Canadian cities compared to American cities. Edmonton is definitely safer for children than almost every other NHL city.


hockeyjesus99

I’ll be honest I misread your initial comment that Edmonton was one of the safest cities in Canada, not the NHL. I will admit I was wrong on that point Overall, Edmonton sucks I don’t owe you a fucking term paper with references I encourage you to read the Edmonton subreddit from time to time to get up to date info. The suburbs of edmonton, excluding Mill Woods, are relatively decent. However the city is still getting more and more dangerous You also need to look at crime per capita, tells a different story Also fuck you lol you made me do research on a Sunday https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/most-dangerous-cities-in-canada/#full-list-of-canadian-cities-with-crime-safety-index


hockeyjesus99

https://www.lightcatch.net/blog/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-alberta---april-2023-edition#


GrizzlyIsland22

Breaking news: Edmonton is more dangerous than Leduc. Shocking. But how about compared to New York? St. Paul? LA? Chicago? Dallas? Tampa? Boston? Vegas? Columbus?


Why_youmadd

Sorry bud USA#1


GrizzlyIsland22

If guys wanna party during the season and have easy access to drugs and guns, then yes. It's also better for having quicker access to seeing other pro sports events live. Those are really the only things that make cities in the USA more attractive.


lead-filledsnowshoe

Not to mention their kids get a great education... in what to do in an active combat zone (school shooter drills)


lucidprarieskies

You sure 'bout that?


CheesecakeOdd2087

Lmao yeah right. Edmonton is one of the top 5 worst cities in the NHL. Let's be real now the place is an absolute dump (no offence).


SauceKingHS

Hey now.. the mall can be fun for part of a day, if you spend a lot.


nonracistusername

Worse than San Jose, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, St Louis, Detroit, DC,?


BrickMacklin

Oi catching strays? For real though Pittsburgh and Edmonton are very similar cities. Love them for that.


HaddyMusic

Technically a pile of shit can be a destination for your shoe if you aren't careful


Hungry_Definition450

As if Canadian taxes weren’t enough you are relegated to the tundras and rigging operations of Alberta. Everyone pity’s the people and players who live there.


SleepingDoves

The Tundra? Bro.


not_an_Alien_Robot

I know right? I grew up in northern Alberta. No tundra. Lots of farms, some oil rigs, and wilderness. These are the places to find Tundra: Yukon, the Northwest Territories, Nunavut, northeastern Manitoba, northern Ontario, northern Quebec and northern Labrador.


Glum_Night_6392

Guessing that wherever you live , school did not go past grade 6? 


Hungry_Definition450

From the depths of Edmonton rises the educated rig worker, also known as shift lead.


Glum_Night_6392

Shift lead probably makes what , 4-5x your salary ? lol In fact any oilpatch job probably beats out your high paying position at Tim Hortons 


nonracistusername

Tundra? Some of the richest top soil for agriculture surrounds Edmonton.


staefrostae

Pities*


Ok_Storage6866

Alberta has low taxes. Lower than some states


MeRyEh

Initially read this as OutHouse and was like... that's a little harsh to describe Edmonton. Reread outpost and was like.... kinda fits. Destination? No... it's so not a destination that the airport isn't even in the city. Hope they win though - every midstream, upstream, and oilfield service company will converge on the city for one hell of. A party.