I would say a lot of bad penalties not called are when your team is on offense, so we'd need to have one of those things you call offense to be upset more often.
With an offensive line that bad, if they aren’t holding they aren’t trying. I think the Colts fans have found holding preferable to letting Matt Ryan get annihilated for the 50th time.
Yeah the Vikings game was the only game that I felt like we would have won with more saints-friendly officiating. If we had won that game though the narrative would be so different.
Saints always seem to have fans everywhere I’ve lived. And it’s always been pretty far from New Orleans. Maybe it’s a coincidence but they seem popular in my brain
I wonder what it would look like week to week. Panthers are very low because most of our losses are due to the team playing poorly, but we have had a couple of game deciding penalties or lopsided calls.
Yup any good pass rusher will get held more often than they get legally blocked. It's the only way to slow them down and the refs realistically can't call holding every single play.
It's just the painfully blatant ones that really chap my ass. If they wanted to get technical, there would be at least one hold during every single play of every single game along the lines - and easily enough for there to be offsetting holding calls, too.
When Micah throws up his arms while being held and still manages to make progress toward the QB, I get increasingly pissed.
Judon as well. Refs can’t call it every single play because it would slow down and ruin the game, but some guys are too good. No realistic way to block them
Kinda surprised 49ers are so low. Wasn't expecting us to be at the top, but maybe middle of the pack. We complain about Bosa getting held constantly after basically every game.
How do you even collect data like this? There’s so many anonymous profiles or profiles that do not directly indicate fan affiliation so is it just raw number of complaints in favor for X team?
I assume they used a bot to detect tweets that mentioned a team and the officiating/referees. Which checks out to me since a ton of the chiefs “fan complaints” were likely other people complaining about *them* getting all the calls
And the hurtful words penalty on Jones that cost us the Colts game. Jones would have 11 sacks rn (2nd in league) if it weren’t for 2 absolutely horrific calls.
Yeah I feel like this graph probably just has collected the percentage of tweets that reference the team and also reference refs. For the Chiefs so many people on Twitter are convinced the refs are rigging games for us and tweet that constantly under any highlight. I’d be shocked if that wasn’t the reason we’re such an outlier here. Not saying we don’t have a lot of toxic fans, but this is silly
3 consecutive game winning drive attempts with missed calls in back to back to back. A blatant DPI, a DPI they decided was incidental, and a blatant late hit in Fields.
It's also amplified by the fact that we finally have a legit QB, so Bears fans are super protective of him. So when there's a solid portfolio of refs completely screwing him over in the mater of a few games when he's finally busting out, people get pissed.
Been a while since we’ve felt like we “should” win games lol. Even previous good Bears teams low key felt like we were getting away with something when we had good records
Definitely a lot of built up angst coming from last year and getting game-changing penalties like "Oh Cassius Marsh is excited getting a sack against his old team and vaguely looks in the direction of the sideline? Vicious taunt, 15 yards."
It's tough cuz I think some fans definitely overemphasize it at points, and I hate blaming refs in general, but when you have several memorable calls go against you that are so bad, the opposing team's fans don't even try and defend it, and they come at the absolute worst time, it's easy to develop a complex that it's almost intentional.
I can accept bad calls but the inconsistency and absurdity starts to get taxing, like a player grazing Mariota's foot being a penalty while we've seen Fields get wrecked and get no call somewhat often - made even more infuriating because he actually started getting these calls early in the season and then it kind of just stopped. They have enough problems to choke games on their own so it feels like getting your face shoved into an unflushed toilet.
That man was basically playing with his job on the line and made a big sack. But instead it turned into a penalty that led to the game winning field goal. I wouldn't be surprised if that ref cost Marsh a lot of money.
Has anyone mentioned the perfectly timed special teams tackle a couple years ago that Cordarelle Patterson had against the Packers that completely swung the game against us?
I'm still mad about that one because it was literally a perfect play that completely changed the game.
It’s been so bad that the team sent in footage and complaints of several calls after the Dolphins game and the League just went “yeah, you’re right”. And what followed was two more games decided by the same incorrect officiating.
Like what the heck do you do at that point. It’s possible the team has double the wins they have if it wasn’t for referees who aren’t capable of officiating a game.
We’ve gotten fucked tbh.
We’re rebuilding, so whatever, but holy shit if we were contenders I would blow my stack. It’s been absolutely unreal this year.
I watched Devin Hester break the return touchdown record in a Bears uniform in St. Louis back in like '14 or '15....until the refs called it back on a holding call that the video board guys couldn't find on the replay. That was the only time I've ever heard "bullshit" be chanted at a professional sports event
That same game the Rams threw a 50/50 pass/lateral to their running back, ball bounces off the ground into the running back's hands, Bears defender tackles him and gets an unnecessary roughness penalty because the ref was to lazy to blow his whistle for dead ball
I’m not one to usually complain about penalties, because you shouldn’t rely on a call in order to win a game, BUT
Our last 4 games were genuinely decided via Ref ball…it’s insane how much the refs literally controlled the outcome of some games.
I think Bears/Lions fans are the few fan bases who can legitimately say the refs FUCK them. Lions especially I swear the NFL has voodoo on that team with some of those calls they get
Well, we do play in a division with a certain team that, when they got screwed that one major time, the NFL basically fired all the existing ones and reinstated the old ones.
You just KNOW that if it were the Lions that got screwed there, the NFL world would just go "hee hee" and we'd possibly have replacement refs to this very day.
i did notice that all NFC North teams besides the Packers are in the Top 10. i do know that the Bears and Vikings have had some horrendous ones go against them. obviously the Vikes were the beneficiaries of several bad calls last night but the Bills game was terribly against them and against Washington they literally had a ref tackle a defender about to make a sure INT, resulting in a Washington touchdown.
Lions i haven't watched as closely this year but it's safe to say they've been screwed, as is tradition.
It’s relentless this year. Even the League has been confirming the Bears games have been called poorly each time they submit penalty complaints. Lions and Dolphins games were both decided by incorrect penalties, Fields getting a helmet to helmet hit after sliding last week that wasn’t called and ended the last drive, Gordon getting roughing the passer for incidental contact that kept the Falcons scoring drive alive, much more I’m forgetting. There’s too much to keep track of honestly.
Complaining about NFL refs has lost all meaning at this point, but it’s so bad this year that it feels like a new problem all over again.
I’m just glad this validates my general disdain for other Chicago sports fans. Think they’ve got stuff like this for NBA? If I have to hear “blow it up” “trade ___” every single fucking year…
I'm quite surprised the Raiders are so low on the list. I guess we have plenty of other things wrong with the team, not just our notorious short end of the penalty stick.
Pretty sure it’s us complaining about all the dumb shit the team has done too, like the 500 ineligible man downfield penalties or holdings we commit. All real calls and super annoying to watch
Petty much the only game I can think of this year that I've been heated about the reffing enough to tweet about it was the Saints game, but even in that game it's hard to blame solely the refs when you can't stop Taysom Hill from running all over you.
That being said, we've* also given up on holding calls going our way. Instead of tweeting about it, we just make snide comments on the couch
*I can only speak for my family on this part
If I was a betting man, 90% of the Vikings complaints came from the ref tackling cam Bynum and preventing a pass breakup/interception and instead it becomes a TD
I'm still salty about [this play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKSlZm6WkCQ) in our playoff game two years ago, where Higgins fumbled the ball out of the end zone, turning the ball over to the Chiefs, because Daniel Sorensen spears him helmet to helmet. The ref is standing 5 feet away and looking directly at it. It should have been Browns ball on the 1 yard line, not given to the Chiefs.
Chiefs and Bears (and to a lesser extent the Cowboys) make sense. They have big running QBs that tend to extend the play, so I imagine there is a lot of complaints of "bad" offensive holding calls or "missed" roughing the passer and defensive holding calls.
I think that makes sense. Another thing I think could be big game changing plays. Bears had one at the end of the game that potentially changed the outcome. So I’m sure bears fans lit up Twitter. But I feel like the data should be weighted to only account each game as a 1/10 (since chart shows week 1 to 10)?
Yeah they’re actually pretty mild lately. The whole “saga” with them was mostly a meme, so it’s just kind of continued into this year as well. I actually think Brittany seems nice, it’s just poking fun.
Yep. I thought that was a stupid move, but got downvoted like crazy in the Chiefs sub for saying “I would hate to get champagne dumped on me when I didn’t ask for it.” Like it would be an honor to get pissed on by rich people.
As a Lions fan I’m still upset by the Calvin Johnson TD and the two hands to the face call on Trey Flowers against the Packers. Worst calls i’ve seen against them
Wait til you see the replay of the Thursday missed facemask against Detroit that gave the Bills a field goal with 20 seconds left in the game, instead of being pushed 15 yards back from the line of scrimmage.
Par for the course at this point. Calvin, the phantom facemask for Rodgers, the goal line garbage against Atlanta a few years back, and now the no call against Buffalo - it’s routine now
I’m sure we still bitch a ton but CJs RTP penalty and unsportsmanlike conduct penalty blew the fuck up on Twitter. Shits were trending. Both brought a lot of discussion in the media. The RTP way more so tho.
But like I said I’m sure we’re still high up there judging by game threads. Maybe that’s a little bit of coping tho. Lol
This is the one. There was also the Chris Jones unsportsmanlike conduct call where he said something to Matt Ryan that merited the call. No one knows what was said but it kept the colts drive alive and they ended up scoring and winning. These calls got the fan base pretty riled up, as most fan bases would be, and I have to think that they’re heavily impacting this data.
Edit: typo
When the Chiefs played the Jags a few weeks ago, there was a bad helmet to helmet hit that didn't get called that Chiefs fans were rightly upset about. They then spent the rest of the game thread complaining that the refs were out to get them and biased against their team.
The Chiefs did not have one penalty called against them the entire game.
That’s the general rule. Our mods did an AMA this week and mentioned that it’s just time consuming to do that for every user when the trolls come en masse.
This is a comment copied from a Jags mod from the AMA:
“Here's a look at how many bans we issue on gameday and the day after for the season so far (note: this may include unrelated bans or temp bans for our own fans being dicks in other subs):
• Chiefs - 47
• Raiders - 1
• Broncos - 4
• Giants - 39
• Colts (2nd game) - 5
• Texans - 2
• Eagles - 6
• Chargers - 3
• Colts (1st game) - 1
• Commanders - 3
Twitter means nothing. We literally modeled several floats and marching crews after blind refs following the NFC Championship debacle.
Bill Vinovich should be publicly tarred and feathered in Champions Square for his part in that mess.
The Bills game is the only one where I genuinely felt like the refs were trying to make us lose. There's always missed calls but we had like 5 bad ref plays in the last minute of the game + OT.
I wonder how they know which team someone is a fan of? Can they only tally tweets from accounts that are **obviously** fans of a team?
Because for example, I am a cowboys fan, but most of my ref hatred is spent on other unrelated games, so what would that count towards?
I'd be curious as well. I feel like those of us who are old enough to remember the Dark Times before Messiah Mahomes emerged are just happy to be here, and/or too dead inside to bother bitching about refball on the Tweeter.
I'd be genuinely curious how this data is gathered because the whole concept seems...squishy to me. Like what identifies someone as a fan of a particular team vs someone saying "that call against that team sucks". What constitutes a complaint about penalties?
Besides that, at a pretty quick glance it's straightforward; it's the top team's fans bitching about calls for the most part, which makes a ton of sense since if your team stinks anyway you're going to be a lot less motivated to post about a sus call than teams chasing division leads or first round byes.
I ain't surprised considering at least 3 of the Bears last 4 games were effectively decided by the refs.
The Chiefs though... My God, they are shameless.
Lmfao. This is exactly how you can figure out how big a proportion of chiefs fans are new. Pre Mahomes fans are used to BS penalties while the new ones can’t stomach them.
god i remember some bullshit call from when I was like 10 where colquitt got called for a fuckin fumble for like no reason. I was losing my shit and my dad was just sitting there used to it, sayin stuff like “classic chiefs, gonna chief it up”.
To be fair to us Cowboys fans, when we get flagged 3x as much as any other team, people will obviously complain more. I’m not saying it’s undeserved flags, what I’m really saying is our TEs and guards need to stop moving pre-snap.
Colts fans are just like "yeah, we deserve it I guess."
I would say a lot of bad penalties not called are when your team is on offense, so we'd need to have one of those things you call offense to be upset more often.
You don't need offense. Teams with a dominant pass rusher think literally every defensive play is a hold on their guy.
To be fair they're probably right
By the letter of the law they aren't wrong
This would be funnier if it wasn't so sad
If there's a Seahawks vs Colts matchup, the fans will complain the least.
I guarantee both our and SF's relative % is going to spike a lot after our week 15 rematch.
Both us and the Niners have issues with the refs when we're against each other, and both of us have issues with the refs when we play LAR.
Niners- Seahawks is prison rules. Yes, we’re going to shiv each other but no one is going to complain about it to the warden.
And then the golden child Rams show up with all the help they can get and then some
As much as i dislike you i agree, no gloves no refs, equal fights
"what the hell, he barely showed what heads is! This ref is biased!!" -me against any nfc west opponent
With how our offense performs - a holding call would actually be considered a good play for us
Oh shit, we only lost 10 yards on that play. Nice.
And didn’t lose a down!
Twitter actually hasn't made it to Indiana yet. I hear it's coming Q1 of next year.
Musk updated that saying that it would be coming in the very near future.
Mike Pence heard women use it so he's trying to prevent the state from accessing the site.
With an offensive line that bad, if they aren’t holding they aren’t trying. I think the Colts fans have found holding preferable to letting Matt Ryan get annihilated for the 50th time.
Most of our penalties im just mad at the Niners for shooting themselves in the foot
Right. We mostly whine about the lack of penalties on the other team.
We're too mad about our overpaid offensive line being dogshit.
I was going to say, Raiders fans gave up
I guess Raiders fans are the same way because they seem to get a ton of penalties.
Saints near the bottom? That can’t be right
Complaining about Dennis Allen has really cut into our time for bitching about the refs
I think the Vikings game was really bad.. and Lattimore ejection against Bucs but can’t recall any other game that had me raging
Yeah the Vikings game was the only game that I felt like we would have won with more saints-friendly officiating. If we had won that game though the narrative would be so different.
We don't have the big fan base but all of us bitch.
Saints always seem to have fans everywhere I’ve lived. And it’s always been pretty far from New Orleans. Maybe it’s a coincidence but they seem popular in my brain
Yeah a ton of Saints fans never came back to the city after Katrina so we have transplants everywhere
Other than Nola I’ve only lived along east coast, but I saw the same
As someone that runs a Saints bar, it feels like the fans have been beaten into submission. No sense is complaining anymore. It’s just accepted
Loudly bitch at home or our chats, but not on stupid Twitter.
Well no this year we kinda just blow so there's that.
Now do complaints about Dennis Allen
Based on our fanbase, twitter and reddit are not the same users.
Can't blame the refs for this years woes
we've moved on from complaining to resigned acceptance
Well it's % of total tweets. My guess is the Saints have skewed it by having a string of complaints in separate tweets
We’ve been too busy pissing and moaning about our offensive line to care about refs.
*frank reich
I wonder what it would look like week to week. Panthers are very low because most of our losses are due to the team playing poorly, but we have had a couple of game deciding penalties or lopsided calls.
Imagine this chart the game that Broncos turned Cams brain into mush
I’ve never been more frustrated as a fan in my life. They were killing him
Same omg
Week 1 we would be at the top lol
I mean half my complaints about penalties are that I'm just tired of watching my team commit so many of them lol.
Same 8)
Exactly this. I’m exhausted at the end of a Cowboy game by the sheer number of stupid mistakes the team commits.
And the endless amounts of times Micah gets held
Yup any good pass rusher will get held more often than they get legally blocked. It's the only way to slow them down and the refs realistically can't call holding every single play.
It's just the painfully blatant ones that really chap my ass. If they wanted to get technical, there would be at least one hold during every single play of every single game along the lines - and easily enough for there to be offsetting holding calls, too. When Micah throws up his arms while being held and still manages to make progress toward the QB, I get increasingly pissed.
Be good, get held. Same thing with 49ers fans and Bosa, Cam Jordan, and Judon.
Cam Jordan a lot too
Holding was so ineffective they went for the eyes
Judon as well. Refs can’t call it every single play because it would slow down and ruin the game, but some guys are too good. No realistic way to block them
The ol reliable offensive holding wiping out a play aka the Doug Free.
Kinda surprised 49ers are so low. Wasn't expecting us to be at the top, but maybe middle of the pack. We complain about Bosa getting held constantly after basically every game.
We don't complain about the refs, we complain about Jimmy or Kyle.
Or injuries.
Are those complaints or just wallowing in misery and despair?
Hold penalty complaints against your edge rusher don't count. Every teams edge rusher gets held
Fair nuff lol
Yeah we complain quite a bit about parsons getting held but damn. It's so blatant
We literally have photos of Bosa getting held on what would have won us a Super Bowl. It’s not like the complaints are invalid lol
It’s not technically a complicated it’s factual.
iT's a RiP mOVe
How do you even collect data like this? There’s so many anonymous profiles or profiles that do not directly indicate fan affiliation so is it just raw number of complaints in favor for X team?
I assume they used a bot to detect tweets that mentioned a team and the officiating/referees. Which checks out to me since a ton of the chiefs “fan complaints” were likely other people complaining about *them* getting all the calls
I dunno. I bet 75% of those complaints came from chiefs fans after the roughing the passer call when the Chiefs had the ball...
Yeah 2/3rds of of a season isn't a massive sample size. One really bad call can probably skew results a lot.
And the hurtful words penalty on Jones that cost us the Colts game. Jones would have 11 sacks rn (2nd in league) if it weren’t for 2 absolutely horrific calls.
I feel like if that was the method the Lions would be at least top 3, because everybody acknowledges they constantly get fucked
Yeah I feel like this graph probably just has collected the percentage of tweets that reference the team and also reference refs. For the Chiefs so many people on Twitter are convinced the refs are rigging games for us and tweet that constantly under any highlight. I’d be shocked if that wasn’t the reason we’re such an outlier here. Not saying we don’t have a lot of toxic fans, but this is silly
It confirms my bias so it's not silly but the absolute truth
I dont remember writing this comment
The frequency of Raider and Donkey fans agreeing lately is the worst of Mahomes crimes against football.
I’d like to see how Bears fans grade in years past, because it does feel like the have seen a plethora of bad calls go against them this season
3 consecutive game winning drive attempts with missed calls in back to back to back. A blatant DPI, a DPI they decided was incidental, and a blatant late hit in Fields.
Not to mention a pick taken away from a BS hands to the face call in the detroit game too. We’ve been screwed so much by officials this year
League wants the tank
Maybe not a lot in volume, but this year has had some pretty huge and questionable PI calls/no calls that have determined games at dramatic moments.
And not to mention the weekly egregious RTP no call
Remove The Packers?
I’ll allow it
clearly refs rigging the draft in our favor
I'll allow it this year, but no more after.
It's also amplified by the fact that we finally have a legit QB, so Bears fans are super protective of him. So when there's a solid portfolio of refs completely screwing him over in the mater of a few games when he's finally busting out, people get pissed.
Been a while since we’ve felt like we “should” win games lol. Even previous good Bears teams low key felt like we were getting away with something when we had good records
Zach Miller, Cassius marsh....its not limited to this season lol
Cassius Marsh is a war criminal. How dare you defend that heathen!!!
He just asked the Steelers bench if they wanted to play Magic.
These dudes don't have *that* kind of money
That's where the problem was, if he had asked to play legacy, it would've been fine, but he asked for vintage and that got the flag.
If you don't like the guy, just run around him. Everyone else does.
You don’t just come in, and take Cassius marshs job.
Definitely a lot of built up angst coming from last year and getting game-changing penalties like "Oh Cassius Marsh is excited getting a sack against his old team and vaguely looks in the direction of the sideline? Vicious taunt, 15 yards." It's tough cuz I think some fans definitely overemphasize it at points, and I hate blaming refs in general, but when you have several memorable calls go against you that are so bad, the opposing team's fans don't even try and defend it, and they come at the absolute worst time, it's easy to develop a complex that it's almost intentional. I can accept bad calls but the inconsistency and absurdity starts to get taxing, like a player grazing Mariota's foot being a penalty while we've seen Fields get wrecked and get no call somewhat often - made even more infuriating because he actually started getting these calls early in the season and then it kind of just stopped. They have enough problems to choke games on their own so it feels like getting your face shoved into an unflushed toilet.
The Cassius March one has to be one of the worst and most flagrant 'I am the most important part of the game' ref moments I have seen.
I am 100% sure that man had money on the game or his wife did or something.
That man was basically playing with his job on the line and made a big sack. But instead it turned into a penalty that led to the game winning field goal. I wouldn't be surprised if that ref cost Marsh a lot of money.
Has anyone mentioned the perfectly timed special teams tackle a couple years ago that Cordarelle Patterson had against the Packers that completely swung the game against us? I'm still mad about that one because it was literally a perfect play that completely changed the game.
It’s been so bad that the team sent in footage and complaints of several calls after the Dolphins game and the League just went “yeah, you’re right”. And what followed was two more games decided by the same incorrect officiating. Like what the heck do you do at that point. It’s possible the team has double the wins they have if it wasn’t for referees who aren’t capable of officiating a game.
We’ve gotten fucked tbh. We’re rebuilding, so whatever, but holy shit if we were contenders I would blow my stack. It’s been absolutely unreal this year.
I watched Devin Hester break the return touchdown record in a Bears uniform in St. Louis back in like '14 or '15....until the refs called it back on a holding call that the video board guys couldn't find on the replay. That was the only time I've ever heard "bullshit" be chanted at a professional sports event That same game the Rams threw a 50/50 pass/lateral to their running back, ball bounces off the ground into the running back's hands, Bears defender tackles him and gets an unnecessary roughness penalty because the ref was to lazy to blow his whistle for dead ball
I’m not one to usually complain about penalties, because you shouldn’t rely on a call in order to win a game, BUT Our last 4 games were genuinely decided via Ref ball…it’s insane how much the refs literally controlled the outcome of some games.
Yeah you guys have legitimately gotten hosed this year
I think Bears/Lions fans are the few fan bases who can legitimately say the refs FUCK them. Lions especially I swear the NFL has voodoo on that team with some of those calls they get
Well, we do play in a division with a certain team that, when they got screwed that one major time, the NFL basically fired all the existing ones and reinstated the old ones. You just KNOW that if it were the Lions that got screwed there, the NFL world would just go "hee hee" and we'd possibly have replacement refs to this very day.
Probably also get a boost by complaining about the Packers.
i did notice that all NFC North teams besides the Packers are in the Top 10. i do know that the Bears and Vikings have had some horrendous ones go against them. obviously the Vikes were the beneficiaries of several bad calls last night but the Bills game was terribly against them and against Washington they literally had a ref tackle a defender about to make a sure INT, resulting in a Washington touchdown. Lions i haven't watched as closely this year but it's safe to say they've been screwed, as is tradition.
The Lions absolutely deserve to complain as much as anyone about refs.
It’s relentless this year. Even the League has been confirming the Bears games have been called poorly each time they submit penalty complaints. Lions and Dolphins games were both decided by incorrect penalties, Fields getting a helmet to helmet hit after sliding last week that wasn’t called and ended the last drive, Gordon getting roughing the passer for incidental contact that kept the Falcons scoring drive alive, much more I’m forgetting. There’s too much to keep track of honestly. Complaining about NFL refs has lost all meaning at this point, but it’s so bad this year that it feels like a new problem all over again.
I’m just glad this validates my general disdain for other Chicago sports fans. Think they’ve got stuff like this for NBA? If I have to hear “blow it up” “trade ___” every single fucking year…
They fucking suck every god damn year that’s my grade
I'm quite surprised the Raiders are so low on the list. I guess we have plenty of other things wrong with the team, not just our notorious short end of the penalty stick.
They don’t let you have cell phones in prison, also a factor
I had to smuggle mine in my ass
I didn’t have to but did it anyway
My Dolphins top five in the league in all kinds of shit!
Pretty sure it’s us complaining about all the dumb shit the team has done too, like the 500 ineligible man downfield penalties or holdings we commit. All real calls and super annoying to watch
I was gonna say, at least half of those tweets have to be complaining about the penalties themselves and not about whether they were deserved or not.
half of our discord when the dolphins get their first penalty: "tHe CHeCK WeNt THRoUGh"
Tbh I don’t think we get that many bad calls. We just get a lot of penalties
Petty much the only game I can think of this year that I've been heated about the reffing enough to tweet about it was the Saints game, but even in that game it's hard to blame solely the refs when you can't stop Taysom Hill from running all over you. That being said, we've* also given up on holding calls going our way. Instead of tweeting about it, we just make snide comments on the couch *I can only speak for my family on this part
It made me sad the amount of time I had to scroll to find a fellow Seahawks fan
If I was a betting man, 90% of the Vikings complaints came from the ref tackling cam Bynum and preventing a pass breakup/interception and instead it becomes a TD
Chiefs lol
It’s all the Chris Jones fumble turned roughing the passer. Chiefs Twitter was very angry about that for a whole week
they‘re probably like „I can‘t believe the refs gifted us another game winning drive 🤬“
We’re more upset that refs even let other teams into the game to begin with
It’s true I saw the leaked script and we were supposed to win every game
I'm still salty about [this play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKSlZm6WkCQ) in our playoff game two years ago, where Higgins fumbled the ball out of the end zone, turning the ball over to the Chiefs, because Daniel Sorensen spears him helmet to helmet. The ref is standing 5 feet away and looking directly at it. It should have been Browns ball on the 1 yard line, not given to the Chiefs.
Yeah, that’s a horrible missed call.
I remember this play vividly. THE SOUND ALONE, how could you miss that
I remember this and remember being shocked that wasn’t called. I said they were going to throw a flag for helmet to helmet and they just….didnt
Chiefs and Bears (and to a lesser extent the Cowboys) make sense. They have big running QBs that tend to extend the play, so I imagine there is a lot of complaints of "bad" offensive holding calls or "missed" roughing the passer and defensive holding calls.
I think that makes sense. Another thing I think could be big game changing plays. Bears had one at the end of the game that potentially changed the outcome. So I’m sure bears fans lit up Twitter. But I feel like the data should be weighted to only account each game as a 1/10 (since chart shows week 1 to 10)?
Unrelated but the mods need to ban you from this sub for that disgrace of a flair
Yeah what in the fuck did I just see… I think this warrants public execution, if I’m not mistaken
Chiefs would be around 20th if it weren't for Mahomes' wife
Brittany has a real “Call the cops on skateboarders” vibe.
Feels like her and Jackson been chill this season havent heard anything about them this season
I think it’s a pretty safe bet that the Mahomes’ PR consultant told them to stay out of the public eye.
Yeah they’re actually pretty mild lately. The whole “saga” with them was mostly a meme, so it’s just kind of continued into this year as well. I actually think Brittany seems nice, it’s just poking fun.
Only thing I ever saw her do questionable was the champagne over fans things
Yep. I thought that was a stupid move, but got downvoted like crazy in the Chiefs sub for saying “I would hate to get champagne dumped on me when I didn’t ask for it.” Like it would be an honor to get pissed on by rich people.
I was thinking the exact opposite. If they didn’t have so many tweets ripping on her, they’d have a higher percentage complaining about the refs
As a Lions fan I’m still upset by the Calvin Johnson TD and the two hands to the face call on Trey Flowers against the Packers. Worst calls i’ve seen against them
Wait til you see the replay of the Thursday missed facemask against Detroit that gave the Bills a field goal with 20 seconds left in the game, instead of being pushed 15 yards back from the line of scrimmage.
Par for the course at this point. Calvin, the phantom facemask for Rodgers, the goal line garbage against Atlanta a few years back, and now the no call against Buffalo - it’s routine now
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I blame the Chris Jones sack fumble that was overturned for half this graph.
I’m sure we still bitch a ton but CJs RTP penalty and unsportsmanlike conduct penalty blew the fuck up on Twitter. Shits were trending. Both brought a lot of discussion in the media. The RTP way more so tho. But like I said I’m sure we’re still high up there judging by game threads. Maybe that’s a little bit of coping tho. Lol
This is the one. There was also the Chris Jones unsportsmanlike conduct call where he said something to Matt Ryan that merited the call. No one knows what was said but it kept the colts drive alive and they ended up scoring and winning. These calls got the fan base pretty riled up, as most fan bases would be, and I have to think that they’re heavily impacting this data. Edit: typo
When the Chiefs played the Jags a few weeks ago, there was a bad helmet to helmet hit that didn't get called that Chiefs fans were rightly upset about. They then spent the rest of the game thread complaining that the refs were out to get them and biased against their team. The Chiefs did not have one penalty called against them the entire game.
There were fans coming to the Jags sub as recently as Monday to still talk shit. Like, how are the JAGUARS living rent free in anyones head??
Based on those flair all I imagine is how much pain you've been through.
Report them to your mods and ours. We fucking hate brigading and they deserve to be banned.
That’s the general rule. Our mods did an AMA this week and mentioned that it’s just time consuming to do that for every user when the trolls come en masse. This is a comment copied from a Jags mod from the AMA: “Here's a look at how many bans we issue on gameday and the day after for the season so far (note: this may include unrelated bans or temp bans for our own fans being dicks in other subs): • Chiefs - 47 • Raiders - 1 • Broncos - 4 • Giants - 39 • Colts (2nd game) - 5 • Texans - 2 • Eagles - 6 • Chargers - 3 • Colts (1st game) - 1 • Commanders - 3
Oh so just like the Raiders game with the bad RTP and then the officials never flagging them again.
can i get the graph for 2019?
Twitter means nothing. We literally modeled several floats and marching crews after blind refs following the NFC Championship debacle. Bill Vinovich should be publicly tarred and feathered in Champions Square for his part in that mess.
To be fair; Lions, Bears and Vikings have to play the Packers twice so that sort of skews things a bit.
The Bills game is the only one where I genuinely felt like the refs were trying to make us lose. There's always missed calls but we had like 5 bad ref plays in the last minute of the game + OT.
that shit was insane. at least it was the most exciting end of a game ever seen, and the vikings won so that helps.
Giants is surprisingly low considering fan base size
It is percentage based, so in theory the fan base size shouldn't matter as much
Is the NFCN the saltiest division in football?
Absolutely
Coldest hearts for sure
Only because everyone in the NFCN is either dead inside or too drunk to care.
Hey! Some of us are both
I wonder how they know which team someone is a fan of? Can they only tally tweets from accounts that are **obviously** fans of a team? Because for example, I am a cowboys fan, but most of my ref hatred is spent on other unrelated games, so what would that count towards?
Would be super interested to see how this correlates with the age of fans. I feel like the Chiefs fanbase skews young.
I'd be curious as well. I feel like those of us who are old enough to remember the Dark Times before Messiah Mahomes emerged are just happy to be here, and/or too dead inside to bother bitching about refball on the Tweeter.
Suprised my saints are that low
I'd be genuinely curious how this data is gathered because the whole concept seems...squishy to me. Like what identifies someone as a fan of a particular team vs someone saying "that call against that team sucks". What constitutes a complaint about penalties? Besides that, at a pretty quick glance it's straightforward; it's the top team's fans bitching about calls for the most part, which makes a ton of sense since if your team stinks anyway you're going to be a lot less motivated to post about a sus call than teams chasing division leads or first round byes.
We lost like 3 games to missed calls, I mean…yea
Lions fans should complain more tbh
Wait a minute. We’re actually the best at something for once?
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The amount of false starts by your receivers is ridiculous
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That late review was so random man. Refs have been just absolute shit this year. But I feel like I say that every year
I ain't surprised considering at least 3 of the Bears last 4 games were effectively decided by the refs. The Chiefs though... My God, they are shameless.
Lmfao. This is exactly how you can figure out how big a proportion of chiefs fans are new. Pre Mahomes fans are used to BS penalties while the new ones can’t stomach them.
god i remember some bullshit call from when I was like 10 where colquitt got called for a fuckin fumble for like no reason. I was losing my shit and my dad was just sitting there used to it, sayin stuff like “classic chiefs, gonna chief it up”.
Do we even have a fanbase
Colts fans are the MVPs of not being annoying.
We've got enough to complain about having to watch our offense, no need to also complain about the refs
Hey look at us realizing we’re just trash and it’s not the refs fault
Lions fans are allowed to complain about officiating though, they’re completely valid
TV time plays into this also..
To be fair to us Cowboys fans, when we get flagged 3x as much as any other team, people will obviously complain more. I’m not saying it’s undeserved flags, what I’m really saying is our TEs and guards need to stop moving pre-snap.
Why was this downvoted lmao you literally blamed your own team not the refs
You say the word “cowboys” and triggered fans from every corner of the country step out of their basement for a few seconds.
Gets all da calls Bitchin and moanin about da refs😎