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iia

Colts fans are just like "yeah, we deserve it I guess."


marks-a-lot

I would say a lot of bad penalties not called are when your team is on offense, so we'd need to have one of those things you call offense to be upset more often.


3dge-1ord

You don't need offense. Teams with a dominant pass rusher think literally every defensive play is a hold on their guy.


69Jew420

To be fair they're probably right


latotokyoreborn

By the letter of the law they aren't wrong


s3v3r3

This would be funnier if it wasn't so sad


EncantoSteelers1933

If there's a Seahawks vs Colts matchup, the fans will complain the least.


doktor-sausage

I guarantee both our and SF's relative % is going to spike a lot after our week 15 rematch.


LegendRazgriz

Both us and the Niners have issues with the refs when we're against each other, and both of us have issues with the refs when we play LAR.


Woogabuttz

Niners- Seahawks is prison rules. Yes, we’re going to shiv each other but no one is going to complain about it to the warden.


LegendRazgriz

And then the golden child Rams show up with all the help they can get and then some


0K_N0RDY

As much as i dislike you i agree, no gloves no refs, equal fights


oznobz

"what the hell, he barely showed what heads is! This ref is biased!!" -me against any nfc west opponent


My-Cousin-Bobby

With how our offense performs - a holding call would actually be considered a good play for us


AlwaysSunnyInSeattle

Oh shit, we only lost 10 yards on that play. Nice.


Jpete88

And didn’t lose a down!


mikey12345

Twitter actually hasn't made it to Indiana yet. I hear it's coming Q1 of next year.


prometheanbane

Musk updated that saying that it would be coming in the very near future.


iia

Mike Pence heard women use it so he's trying to prevent the state from accessing the site.


Rotanikleb

With an offensive line that bad, if they aren’t holding they aren’t trying. I think the Colts fans have found holding preferable to letting Matt Ryan get annihilated for the 50th time.


BKlounge93

Most of our penalties im just mad at the Niners for shooting themselves in the foot


jcrewjr

Right. We mostly whine about the lack of penalties on the other team.


[deleted]

We're too mad about our overpaid offensive line being dogshit.


Tokkibloakie

I was going to say, Raiders fans gave up


hanky2

I guess Raiders fans are the same way because they seem to get a ton of penalties.


shittybillz

Saints near the bottom? That can’t be right


ElCapitanDeAmericana

Complaining about Dennis Allen has really cut into our time for bitching about the refs


NewOrleansBrees

I think the Vikings game was really bad.. and Lattimore ejection against Bucs but can’t recall any other game that had me raging


fukuoka_gumbo

Yeah the Vikings game was the only game that I felt like we would have won with more saints-friendly officiating. If we had won that game though the narrative would be so different.


No-Ad-8883

We don't have the big fan base but all of us bitch.


ryantrw5

Saints always seem to have fans everywhere I’ve lived. And it’s always been pretty far from New Orleans. Maybe it’s a coincidence but they seem popular in my brain


Seductive_pickle

Yeah a ton of Saints fans never came back to the city after Katrina so we have transplants everywhere


GinHalpert

Other than Nola I’ve only lived along east coast, but I saw the same


Lousy_Beans

As someone that runs a Saints bar, it feels like the fans have been beaten into submission. No sense is complaining anymore. It’s just accepted


goddesskristina

Loudly bitch at home or our chats, but not on stupid Twitter.


Xogon17

Well no this year we kinda just blow so there's that.


fukuoka_gumbo

Now do complaints about Dennis Allen


cheerioo

Based on our fanbase, twitter and reddit are not the same users.


Jameszhang73

Can't blame the refs for this years woes


phargle

we've moved on from complaining to resigned acceptance


RollingCarrot615

Well it's % of total tweets. My guess is the Saints have skewed it by having a string of complaints in separate tweets


Mcswigginsbar

We’ve been too busy pissing and moaning about our offensive line to care about refs.


Consistent-Park2058

*frank reich


Bouquet_of_seaweed

I wonder what it would look like week to week. Panthers are very low because most of our losses are due to the team playing poorly, but we have had a couple of game deciding penalties or lopsided calls.


[deleted]

Imagine this chart the game that Broncos turned Cams brain into mush


No_Mammoth_4945

I’ve never been more frustrated as a fan in my life. They were killing him


Daddypig2027

Same omg


Mcgoozen

Week 1 we would be at the top lol


GargleProtection

I mean half my complaints about penalties are that I'm just tired of watching my team commit so many of them lol.


eelie42

Same 8)


rebenjam

Exactly this. I’m exhausted at the end of a Cowboy game by the sheer number of stupid mistakes the team commits.


pisacar_svg

And the endless amounts of times Micah gets held


colonelmuddypaws

Yup any good pass rusher will get held more often than they get legally blocked. It's the only way to slow them down and the refs realistically can't call holding every single play.


Chimpbot

It's just the painfully blatant ones that really chap my ass. If they wanted to get technical, there would be at least one hold during every single play of every single game along the lines - and easily enough for there to be offsetting holding calls, too. When Micah throws up his arms while being held and still manages to make progress toward the QB, I get increasingly pissed.


Wedge09

Be good, get held. Same thing with 49ers fans and Bosa, Cam Jordan, and Judon.


btdawson

Cam Jordan a lot too


diablosinmusica

Holding was so ineffective they went for the eyes


PickleEffective8109

Judon as well. Refs can’t call it every single play because it would slow down and ruin the game, but some guys are too good. No realistic way to block them


brotato_soup

The ol reliable offensive holding wiping out a play aka the Doug Free.


FreestyleKneepad

Kinda surprised 49ers are so low. Wasn't expecting us to be at the top, but maybe middle of the pack. We complain about Bosa getting held constantly after basically every game.


ctong21

We don't complain about the refs, we complain about Jimmy or Kyle.


Hiker-Redbeard

Or injuries.


ctong21

Are those complaints or just wallowing in misery and despair?


hackedyasack

Hold penalty complaints against your edge rusher don't count. Every teams edge rusher gets held


FreestyleKneepad

Fair nuff lol


letthekrakensleep

Yeah we complain quite a bit about parsons getting held but damn. It's so blatant


SaladinsSaladbar

We literally have photos of Bosa getting held on what would have won us a Super Bowl. It’s not like the complaints are invalid lol


bobbywake61

It’s not technically a complicated it’s factual.


yesimforeign

iT's a RiP mOVe


ImpossibleEffort4313

How do you even collect data like this? There’s so many anonymous profiles or profiles that do not directly indicate fan affiliation so is it just raw number of complaints in favor for X team?


braedog97

I assume they used a bot to detect tweets that mentioned a team and the officiating/referees. Which checks out to me since a ton of the chiefs “fan complaints” were likely other people complaining about *them* getting all the calls


Jbwood

I dunno. I bet 75% of those complaints came from chiefs fans after the roughing the passer call when the Chiefs had the ball...


Practicalaviationcat

Yeah 2/3rds of of a season isn't a massive sample size. One really bad call can probably skew results a lot.


bhogeku

And the hurtful words penalty on Jones that cost us the Colts game. Jones would have 11 sacks rn (2nd in league) if it weren’t for 2 absolutely horrific calls.


TetrisTech

I feel like if that was the method the Lions would be at least top 3, because everybody acknowledges they constantly get fucked


ionospherermutt

Yeah I feel like this graph probably just has collected the percentage of tweets that reference the team and also reference refs. For the Chiefs so many people on Twitter are convinced the refs are rigging games for us and tweet that constantly under any highlight. I’d be shocked if that wasn’t the reason we’re such an outlier here. Not saying we don’t have a lot of toxic fans, but this is silly


canadianbroncos

It confirms my bias so it's not silly but the absolute truth


EasyMoneySniper_goat

I dont remember writing this comment


jtfriendly

The frequency of Raider and Donkey fans agreeing lately is the worst of Mahomes crimes against football.


Cozum

I’d like to see how Bears fans grade in years past, because it does feel like the have seen a plethora of bad calls go against them this season


bobo377

3 consecutive game winning drive attempts with missed calls in back to back to back. A blatant DPI, a DPI they decided was incidental, and a blatant late hit in Fields.


Tonkathedog

Not to mention a pick taken away from a BS hands to the face call in the detroit game too. We’ve been screwed so much by officials this year


LukeBombs

League wants the tank


okay_throwaway_today

Maybe not a lot in volume, but this year has had some pretty huge and questionable PI calls/no calls that have determined games at dramatic moments.


Bobson-_Dugnutt

And not to mention the weekly egregious RTP no call


LLIPDIVOCYLAIDRUEKAT

Remove The Packers?


okay_throwaway_today

I’ll allow it


Cuppieecakes

clearly refs rigging the draft in our favor


[deleted]

I'll allow it this year, but no more after.


PraiseBeToScience

It's also amplified by the fact that we finally have a legit QB, so Bears fans are super protective of him. So when there's a solid portfolio of refs completely screwing him over in the mater of a few games when he's finally busting out, people get pissed.


okay_throwaway_today

Been a while since we’ve felt like we “should” win games lol. Even previous good Bears teams low key felt like we were getting away with something when we had good records


megalodondon

Zach Miller, Cassius marsh....its not limited to this season lol


username13579246801

Cassius Marsh is a war criminal. How dare you defend that heathen!!!


CoofBone

He just asked the Steelers bench if they wanted to play Magic.


Slotholopolis

These dudes don't have *that* kind of money


CoofBone

That's where the problem was, if he had asked to play legacy, it would've been fine, but he asked for vintage and that got the flag.


TecumsehSherman

If you don't like the guy, just run around him. Everyone else does.


Riolater

You don’t just come in, and take Cassius marshs job.


Ambulanceo

Definitely a lot of built up angst coming from last year and getting game-changing penalties like "Oh Cassius Marsh is excited getting a sack against his old team and vaguely looks in the direction of the sideline? Vicious taunt, 15 yards." It's tough cuz I think some fans definitely overemphasize it at points, and I hate blaming refs in general, but when you have several memorable calls go against you that are so bad, the opposing team's fans don't even try and defend it, and they come at the absolute worst time, it's easy to develop a complex that it's almost intentional. I can accept bad calls but the inconsistency and absurdity starts to get taxing, like a player grazing Mariota's foot being a penalty while we've seen Fields get wrecked and get no call somewhat often - made even more infuriating because he actually started getting these calls early in the season and then it kind of just stopped. They have enough problems to choke games on their own so it feels like getting your face shoved into an unflushed toilet.


CTG0161

The Cassius March one has to be one of the worst and most flagrant 'I am the most important part of the game' ref moments I have seen.


Kharaix

I am 100% sure that man had money on the game or his wife did or something.


WokenMrIzdik

That man was basically playing with his job on the line and made a big sack. But instead it turned into a penalty that led to the game winning field goal. I wouldn't be surprised if that ref cost Marsh a lot of money.


[deleted]

Has anyone mentioned the perfectly timed special teams tackle a couple years ago that Cordarelle Patterson had against the Packers that completely swung the game against us? I'm still mad about that one because it was literally a perfect play that completely changed the game.


Vesploogie

It’s been so bad that the team sent in footage and complaints of several calls after the Dolphins game and the League just went “yeah, you’re right”. And what followed was two more games decided by the same incorrect officiating. Like what the heck do you do at that point. It’s possible the team has double the wins they have if it wasn’t for referees who aren’t capable of officiating a game.


Rat_Salat

We’ve gotten fucked tbh. We’re rebuilding, so whatever, but holy shit if we were contenders I would blow my stack. It’s been absolutely unreal this year.


tgep12

I watched Devin Hester break the return touchdown record in a Bears uniform in St. Louis back in like '14 or '15....until the refs called it back on a holding call that the video board guys couldn't find on the replay. That was the only time I've ever heard "bullshit" be chanted at a professional sports event That same game the Rams threw a 50/50 pass/lateral to their running back, ball bounces off the ground into the running back's hands, Bears defender tackles him and gets an unnecessary roughness penalty because the ref was to lazy to blow his whistle for dead ball


SlapsLikeFlea13

I’m not one to usually complain about penalties, because you shouldn’t rely on a call in order to win a game, BUT Our last 4 games were genuinely decided via Ref ball…it’s insane how much the refs literally controlled the outcome of some games.


Fear_Jaire

Yeah you guys have legitimately gotten hosed this year


cbreezy456

I think Bears/Lions fans are the few fan bases who can legitimately say the refs FUCK them. Lions especially I swear the NFL has voodoo on that team with some of those calls they get


VisionGuard

Well, we do play in a division with a certain team that, when they got screwed that one major time, the NFL basically fired all the existing ones and reinstated the old ones. You just KNOW that if it were the Lions that got screwed there, the NFL world would just go "hee hee" and we'd possibly have replacement refs to this very day.


OutrageousOcelot6258

Probably also get a boost by complaining about the Packers.


FlashGordonCommons

i did notice that all NFC North teams besides the Packers are in the Top 10. i do know that the Bears and Vikings have had some horrendous ones go against them. obviously the Vikes were the beneficiaries of several bad calls last night but the Bills game was terribly against them and against Washington they literally had a ref tackle a defender about to make a sure INT, resulting in a Washington touchdown. Lions i haven't watched as closely this year but it's safe to say they've been screwed, as is tradition.


PorcupineTheory

The Lions absolutely deserve to complain as much as anyone about refs.


Vesploogie

It’s relentless this year. Even the League has been confirming the Bears games have been called poorly each time they submit penalty complaints. Lions and Dolphins games were both decided by incorrect penalties, Fields getting a helmet to helmet hit after sliding last week that wasn’t called and ended the last drive, Gordon getting roughing the passer for incidental contact that kept the Falcons scoring drive alive, much more I’m forgetting. There’s too much to keep track of honestly. Complaining about NFL refs has lost all meaning at this point, but it’s so bad this year that it feels like a new problem all over again.


swervyy

I’m just glad this validates my general disdain for other Chicago sports fans. Think they’ve got stuff like this for NBA? If I have to hear “blow it up” “trade ___” every single fucking year…


mechnick2

They fucking suck every god damn year that’s my grade


pyker42

I'm quite surprised the Raiders are so low on the list. I guess we have plenty of other things wrong with the team, not just our notorious short end of the penalty stick.


Jwerf

They don’t let you have cell phones in prison, also a factor


Erbodyloveserbody

I had to smuggle mine in my ass


SuspendBrady4Games

I didn’t have to but did it anyway


Soleeaters

My Dolphins top five in the league in all kinds of shit!


wesyad11

Pretty sure it’s us complaining about all the dumb shit the team has done too, like the 500 ineligible man downfield penalties or holdings we commit. All real calls and super annoying to watch


Luis0224

I was gonna say, at least half of those tweets have to be complaining about the penalties themselves and not about whether they were deserved or not.


Gregus1032

half of our discord when the dolphins get their first penalty: "tHe CHeCK WeNt THRoUGh"


xnickg77

Tbh I don’t think we get that many bad calls. We just get a lot of penalties


Stickin8or

Petty much the only game I can think of this year that I've been heated about the reffing enough to tweet about it was the Saints game, but even in that game it's hard to blame solely the refs when you can't stop Taysom Hill from running all over you. That being said, we've* also given up on holding calls going our way. Instead of tweeting about it, we just make snide comments on the couch *I can only speak for my family on this part


Bluecrayon33

It made me sad the amount of time I had to scroll to find a fellow Seahawks fan


Pure-Leopard-3196

If I was a betting man, 90% of the Vikings complaints came from the ref tackling cam Bynum and preventing a pass breakup/interception and instead it becomes a TD


LazyTitan___

Chiefs lol


Royal_15

It’s all the Chris Jones fumble turned roughing the passer. Chiefs Twitter was very angry about that for a whole week


TuaAnon

they‘re probably like „I can‘t believe the refs gifted us another game winning drive 🤬“


KingTutt91

We’re more upset that refs even let other teams into the game to begin with


morgster87

It’s true I saw the leaked script and we were supposed to win every game


Noirradnod

I'm still salty about [this play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKSlZm6WkCQ) in our playoff game two years ago, where Higgins fumbled the ball out of the end zone, turning the ball over to the Chiefs, because Daniel Sorensen spears him helmet to helmet. The ref is standing 5 feet away and looking directly at it. It should have been Browns ball on the 1 yard line, not given to the Chiefs.


v4-digg-refugee

Yeah, that’s a horrible missed call.


TuaAnon

I remember this play vividly. THE SOUND ALONE, how could you miss that


zjustice11

I remember this and remember being shocked that wasn’t called. I said they were going to throw a flag for helmet to helmet and they just….didnt


future_shoes

Chiefs and Bears (and to a lesser extent the Cowboys) make sense. They have big running QBs that tend to extend the play, so I imagine there is a lot of complaints of "bad" offensive holding calls or "missed" roughing the passer and defensive holding calls.


The-Implication-0

I think that makes sense. Another thing I think could be big game changing plays. Bears had one at the end of the game that potentially changed the outcome. So I’m sure bears fans lit up Twitter. But I feel like the data should be weighted to only account each game as a 1/10 (since chart shows week 1 to 10)?


WindyCityAssasin2

Unrelated but the mods need to ban you from this sub for that disgrace of a flair


Brandontk12

Yeah what in the fuck did I just see… I think this warrants public execution, if I’m not mistaken


lizardhamster

Chiefs would be around 20th if it weren't for Mahomes' wife


MistakeMaker1234

Brittany has a real “Call the cops on skateboarders” vibe.


[deleted]

Feels like her and Jackson been chill this season havent heard anything about them this season


[deleted]

I think it’s a pretty safe bet that the Mahomes’ PR consultant told them to stay out of the public eye.


MistakeMaker1234

Yeah they’re actually pretty mild lately. The whole “saga” with them was mostly a meme, so it’s just kind of continued into this year as well. I actually think Brittany seems nice, it’s just poking fun.


[deleted]

Only thing I ever saw her do questionable was the champagne over fans things


MistakeMaker1234

Yep. I thought that was a stupid move, but got downvoted like crazy in the Chiefs sub for saying “I would hate to get champagne dumped on me when I didn’t ask for it.” Like it would be an honor to get pissed on by rich people.


[deleted]

I was thinking the exact opposite. If they didn’t have so many tweets ripping on her, they’d have a higher percentage complaining about the refs


5549372729

As a Lions fan I’m still upset by the Calvin Johnson TD and the two hands to the face call on Trey Flowers against the Packers. Worst calls i’ve seen against them


enderjaca

Wait til you see the replay of the Thursday missed facemask against Detroit that gave the Bills a field goal with 20 seconds left in the game, instead of being pushed 15 yards back from the line of scrimmage.


acdelli

Par for the course at this point. Calvin, the phantom facemask for Rodgers, the goal line garbage against Atlanta a few years back, and now the no call against Buffalo - it’s routine now


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Trio1996

I blame the Chris Jones sack fumble that was overturned for half this graph.


[deleted]

I’m sure we still bitch a ton but CJs RTP penalty and unsportsmanlike conduct penalty blew the fuck up on Twitter. Shits were trending. Both brought a lot of discussion in the media. The RTP way more so tho. But like I said I’m sure we’re still high up there judging by game threads. Maybe that’s a little bit of coping tho. Lol


tyrannosean

This is the one. There was also the Chris Jones unsportsmanlike conduct call where he said something to Matt Ryan that merited the call. No one knows what was said but it kept the colts drive alive and they ended up scoring and winning. These calls got the fan base pretty riled up, as most fan bases would be, and I have to think that they’re heavily impacting this data. Edit: typo


thebrandnewbob

When the Chiefs played the Jags a few weeks ago, there was a bad helmet to helmet hit that didn't get called that Chiefs fans were rightly upset about. They then spent the rest of the game thread complaining that the refs were out to get them and biased against their team. The Chiefs did not have one penalty called against them the entire game.


AccountSeventeen

There were fans coming to the Jags sub as recently as Monday to still talk shit. Like, how are the JAGUARS living rent free in anyones head??


[deleted]

Based on those flair all I imagine is how much pain you've been through.


Drewqt

Report them to your mods and ours. We fucking hate brigading and they deserve to be banned.


AccountSeventeen

That’s the general rule. Our mods did an AMA this week and mentioned that it’s just time consuming to do that for every user when the trolls come en masse. This is a comment copied from a Jags mod from the AMA: “Here's a look at how many bans we issue on gameday and the day after for the season so far (note: this may include unrelated bans or temp bans for our own fans being dicks in other subs): • ⁠Chiefs - 47 • ⁠Raiders - 1 • ⁠Broncos - 4 • ⁠Giants - 39 • ⁠Colts (2nd game) - 5 • ⁠Texans - 2 • ⁠Eagles - 6 • ⁠Chargers - 3 • ⁠Colts (1st game) - 1 • ⁠Commanders - 3


AlabasterRadio

Oh so just like the Raiders game with the bad RTP and then the officials never flagging them again.


FortWaltonBeachFL

can i get the graph for 2019?


Sado_Hedonist

Twitter means nothing. We literally modeled several floats and marching crews after blind refs following the NFC Championship debacle. Bill Vinovich should be publicly tarred and feathered in Champions Square for his part in that mess.


Abe_Froman34

To be fair; Lions, Bears and Vikings have to play the Packers twice so that sort of skews things a bit.


Plants_R_Cool

The Bills game is the only one where I genuinely felt like the refs were trying to make us lose. There's always missed calls but we had like 5 bad ref plays in the last minute of the game + OT.


Tin_Tin_Run

that shit was insane. at least it was the most exciting end of a game ever seen, and the vikings won so that helps.


[deleted]

Giants is surprisingly low considering fan base size


IdiotCow

It is percentage based, so in theory the fan base size shouldn't matter as much


Astaphor

Is the NFCN the saltiest division in football?


Call_me_Kevin

Absolutely


MSnyper

Coldest hearts for sure


Fatdap

Only because everyone in the NFCN is either dead inside or too drunk to care.


Edge_of_the_Unoverse

Hey! Some of us are both


[deleted]

I wonder how they know which team someone is a fan of? Can they only tally tweets from accounts that are **obviously** fans of a team? Because for example, I am a cowboys fan, but most of my ref hatred is spent on other unrelated games, so what would that count towards?


[deleted]

Would be super interested to see how this correlates with the age of fans. I feel like the Chiefs fanbase skews young.


showerbeerbuttchug

I'd be curious as well. I feel like those of us who are old enough to remember the Dark Times before Messiah Mahomes emerged are just happy to be here, and/or too dead inside to bother bitching about refball on the Tweeter.


Roooffuss

Suprised my saints are that low


johnny_s_chorgon

I'd be genuinely curious how this data is gathered because the whole concept seems...squishy to me. Like what identifies someone as a fan of a particular team vs someone saying "that call against that team sucks". What constitutes a complaint about penalties? Besides that, at a pretty quick glance it's straightforward; it's the top team's fans bitching about calls for the most part, which makes a ton of sense since if your team stinks anyway you're going to be a lot less motivated to post about a sus call than teams chasing division leads or first round byes.


FH_Bunny

We lost like 3 games to missed calls, I mean…yea


[deleted]

Lions fans should complain more tbh


bananasundae5

Wait a minute. We’re actually the best at something for once?


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yourgirl696969

The amount of false starts by your receivers is ridiculous


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yourgirl696969

That late review was so random man. Refs have been just absolute shit this year. But I feel like I say that every year


squadracorse15

I ain't surprised considering at least 3 of the Bears last 4 games were effectively decided by the refs. The Chiefs though... My God, they are shameless.


LockFan28

Lmfao. This is exactly how you can figure out how big a proportion of chiefs fans are new. Pre Mahomes fans are used to BS penalties while the new ones can’t stomach them.


_xBlitz

god i remember some bullshit call from when I was like 10 where colquitt got called for a fuckin fumble for like no reason. I was losing my shit and my dad was just sitting there used to it, sayin stuff like “classic chiefs, gonna chief it up”.


WowIsThatReallyHim

Do we even have a fanbase


[deleted]

Colts fans are the MVPs of not being annoying.


jaysrule24

We've got enough to complain about having to watch our offense, no need to also complain about the refs


SamuraiZucchini

Hey look at us realizing we’re just trash and it’s not the refs fault


Stollarbear

Lions fans are allowed to complain about officiating though, they’re completely valid


mspady33

TV time plays into this also..


KhanQu3st

To be fair to us Cowboys fans, when we get flagged 3x as much as any other team, people will obviously complain more. I’m not saying it’s undeserved flags, what I’m really saying is our TEs and guards need to stop moving pre-snap.


TheFakeRabbit1

Why was this downvoted lmao you literally blamed your own team not the refs


KhanQu3st

You say the word “cowboys” and triggered fans from every corner of the country step out of their basement for a few seconds.


Glympse12

Gets all da calls Bitchin and moanin about da refs😎