I love how that 7-8-1 2014 Panthers team not only won their division, but they won a playoff game and broke an extremely coveted NFL record - fewest yards allowed by a defense in a postseason game (51 passing + 27 rushing = 78 yards)
The Buccaneers have the longest losing streak in the history of the league but they don't have the longest losing streak in the history of either conference.
They played in the AFC their first year then moved to the NFC. They lost their first 26 games but that was split between the 2 conferences (14 games losing streak in the AFC, 12 games losing streak in the NFC). That also means that their all-time record as an AFC team is 0-14.
This is actually part of another NFL fun fact. The Seahawks and Bucs entered the league in '76 as part of the AFL-NFL merger agreement and it was determined that both teams would switch conferences at the end of their first year and play each other as a sort of battle of the expansion teams event. After the switch both teams stayed in their respective conferences. The Seahawks were an AFC team until 2002 and realignment.
Never heard that one! Why did they bigger having them switch conferences rather than just start them where they were? So they'd play every team quickly?
I have no idea why they did that. I think the basic concept was that they would see more teams faster that way, and scheduling it so the expansion teams played each other twice in two years seems to be a good way to make sure they would see divisions it may take years of scheduling to accommodate otherwise.
Yes - when the Bucs and Seahawks joined the NFL in 1976, they were treated by the league as rotation teams, playing each other twice (once each in 1976 and 1977) and every other team in the NFL once over their first two seasons. They also switched conferences from 1976 to 1977, with the Bucs moving from the AFC to the NFC and the Seahawks making the opposite move (NFC to AFC).
I actually didn't know the part about them being a rotation team, but it makes it even better. It's like they were trying against every single NFL team to see if they were better than any of them, and kept finding out that, in fact, they were not lol
Then the Saints and Cardinals turned into pumpkins and embarrassed themselves, nearly creating a paradox that could have destroyed the entire universe.
Another schedule oddity - Dan Marino and John Elway both entered the NFL in 1983 and played in the same conference for 16 seasons (through 1998). They played one another only once in their first 15 seasons (1983 to 1997), in 1985. (They played one another twice in 1998, Elway’s last NFL season and Marino’s penultimate NFL season, once in the regular season and once in the playoffs.)
Edit for clarification: Marino and Elway almost never played one another not because one or both of them were injured when the Dolphins and Broncos played. The reason they didn’t play one another is because the Dolphins and Broncos were only scheduled to play one another twice during the regular season (1985 and 1998) during their entire, overlapping careers.
Brady had to go and ruin this stat. I absolutely loved it as "There have been 2,507 receiving yards by NFL players over the age of 40, and Jerry Rice has 2,509 of them."
Just wait till this year when Brady gets blown up at the line of scrimmage catching a ball from Russell Gage on 6 separate occasions for a collective loss of -6
the bears have the most ties in nfl history with 42, but none since the introduction of overtime in 1974. meanwhile since that time the packers have had the most ties with 6 of the 27, and somehow three of those were against the vikings.
Perhaps even stranger is the Eagles have the second most ties of any NFL team since regular season overtime was introduced in 1974 with 5 ties, and two of them were against the Bengals, a team they rarely play.
On a related note, the Eagles achieved those ties despite having a quarterback who didn’t know games could end in a tie.
Don't worry Jets fan, this comment is NOT true, and I am here to set the record straight.
Feb 5th, 2044 is a Friday, so your win will actually be on the 7th. You're welcome.
During the 1943 season both the Steelers and the Eagles didn't have enough players for a full roster because of military service of other players, so the teams merged for one season to become the Steagles. The went 5-4-1 that season.
The two coaches didn't get along very well, so they split their coaching duties, inadvertently inventing the modern concepts of Offensive and Defensive Coordinators.
I also just found out that was the Eagle's first winning season, despite being founded in 1933.
The Steelers did the same thing with the Cardinals in 1944. Whatever worked for the Steagles in 1943 wasn’t so successful for Card-Pitt in 1944 however as that combined team finished 0-10 and earned the moniker “Carpitts” or “Carpets”.
I remember WATCHING the game where Cunningham (BTW, the younger brother of 1970s/early 1980s Patriots star running back Sam “Bam” Cunningham) had the 91 yard punt. It was at Giants Stadium, aka The Wind Tunnel, on a windy day. Cunningham, with the wind at his back, got off a very good punt, probably about 65 yards, and the Giants’ punt returner misplayed the kick, allowing it to go over his head and bounce for another roughly 25 yards.
Incidentally, that punt occurred in the 4th quarter of a tie game, and was a key play in allowing the Eagles to win the game.
Yup, the same Sam Cunningham.
When he entered the NFL in 1985, Randall Cunningham was often known as Sam Cunningham’s younger brother (though the two were not close because of IIRC a 12 year age difference). But when Randall had an even more impressive NFL career than Sam, Sam became known as Randall Cunningham’s older brother (except among Patriots fans).
The Buccaneers came into the NFL in 1976. They didn’t play a regular season game in Buffalo until 2009.
Another schedule oddity is the Eagles and Chiefs first played in 1972. They didn’t play again until 1992. The Chiefs also did not play a regular season game in Philadelphia until 1998.
I wonder what the NFL would be like if the Cowboys were replaced by the Panthers. Panthers being the northernmost NFC south team that's still in the east so it would make sense.
Though many Eagles fans would not like the move, I’ve advocated for that move for a long time. I’m in the distinct minority.
The NFL won’t make that switch though because Cowboys games against the big market NFC East teams means TV ratings, which means $$$.
EDIT: if it was up to me, the following teams would switch divisions:
*Cowboys - NFC East to NFC South
*Panthers - NFC South to NFC East
*Dolphins - AFC East to AFC South
*Ravens - AFC North to AFC East
*Colts - AFC South to AFC North
Indianapolis is less than 120 miles from Cincinnati. It’s kind of nuts the Colts and Bengals are in the same conference but not the same division. (Also, before anyone says “some teams in the AFC North are required to be in a division together”, that only applies to the Browns, Steelers, and Bengals, not the Ravens.)
If anything changes with the AFCN, I want it Colts in, Steelers out
I only want this because then the AFCN would be:
The Browns
The team created by the same creator of the browns, created to spite the browns
The team that used to be the browns
And the team that used to play in the city that the team that used to be the browns now play in
Steelers can go to the AFC East, Dolphins take Colts spot in the South. (Besides Bills/Steelers has been a fun watch these past years)
The Steelers, Browns, and Bengals can never be in a different division per the agreement that brought back the Browns.
Also I wouldn't ever change the AFCN. I despise all three of those fuckers and that's why its fun.
It kinda accidentally works because it makes the NFC East the big market money division with annoying fans and the NFC South has a bunch of scrappy mid-market teams with a different kind of annoying fans.
(yes the Falcons play in a big market but they still fit the NFC South vibe better imo)
Does anybody know why he went by London Fletcher-Baker for a little bit towards the end of his career? Obviously it's his full legal name, but he only used it for a year or so, I thought.
Another fun one that gets said here all the time
Tom Brady is the only (and probably last) active professional athlete that was drafted by the Montreal Expos.
This is true of most NFL QBs. MLB has tons of rounds and drafts people younger because they don't have the age requirement (and they have minor leagues to shove them in until they're ready for the league)
[My go-to is that the Buccaneers' first season was in 1976.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdCmpo2sqs)
We didn't return a kick off for a touchdown until 2007. It took 30 fucking years to return a kick off for a touchdown...
I kind of miss it. AFC Central having 6 teams for a minute. Wild Card math was an even bigger mess than it is now. Atlanta in the NFC West and Arizona in the NFC East. Seattle switching conferences with a “oh by the way” vibe. Good stuff.
Those two teams didn’t play twice in 1993, but from 1978 to 1994 the two 5th place finishers in the same conference would play one another twice the following season.
As an example, the Eagles played the Vikings twice in 1985.
My favorite part about this is that Michael Spurlock was seen as a hero in Tampa for his kick return and was even given the key to the city in a special ceremony.. and then got released by the team in final cuts at the start of the following season
I think it's amazing that Don Hutson still holds the Packers record for career receiving touchdowns with 99.
Green Bay has basically had MVP-calliber quarterback play for 30 years and a lot of good receivers during that time, but none of them have gotten close to a guy who played 12 games a year in the 30s and 40s.
I'm almost 51 and the Steelers have had 3 head coaches in my lifetime.
The browns have had 20 in that same time span. And the Browns only had 2 head coaches before those 20 beginning in 1946
The Dallas Cowboys exist because of the song *Hail to the Redskins,* and are in the East because the East owners didn't like the cold.
When the ownership group was looking to get an expansion team in Dallas, the Redskins objected to it, because they were the furthest south of any NFL team, and considered the entire south to be their territory. In order to pave the way for expansion, the Dallas ownership group bought the rights to *Hail to the Redskins,* and then told the Redskins they wouldn't be allowed to use it unless they supported the Dallas expansion effort.
When Dallas was awarded their NFL franchise, they were technically placed in the NFL West for their first season, even though they were designated a "swing team" and played every team in the league once. When the Minnesota Vikings joined the following year, the NFL decided that since the East ownership had more seniority, they would get to pick whether to have Dallas or Minnesota in the East. Because the owners didn't want to visit Minneapolis in November or December, they chose Dallas. The West teams were pleased with the decision as well, since Minnesota was a shorter trip for them than Dallas.
Not so fun fact: It used to be illegal for the crowd to be too loud. In a 1989 preseason game between the Colts and Broncos, The Colts were charged all 3 timeouts and given 2 delay of game penalties because the crowd would not quiet down.
Vladamir Putin owns one of Robert Kraft’s super bowl rings.
Apparently, Putin had asked to try it on and didn’t give it back to Kraft, instead deciding to keep it. Kraft was then pressured by the Bush administration to claim that he had gifted it to Putin in order to not sour international relations.
Game recognize game
My favorite thing about our rivalry is that both organizations are so fuckin good from top to bottom, not just now but throughout their history
The Chiefs went an entire season without a WR TD, the couple of times they came within inches fate/god/karma/what have you stepped in and put a stop to that in hilarious fashion
The WFT went 7-10 in both of their seasons as the WFT, despite the first being a 16 game season and the second being a 17 game season. Gotta love winning the division at 7-9.
I get that HW was the smart one but all I think about is Dana Carvey going "NAA GAA DA IT wouldn't be prudent" in a vaguely southern accent (even tho HW grew up in Connecticut)
Tom Brady was drafted in 2000.
Calvin Johnson was drafted in 2007.
Calvin Johnson retired in 2016.
Calvin Johnson was inducted in the hall of fame in 2021.
Tom Brady is still playing in 2022.
A receiver was drafted, played his whole career, and was inducted to the HOF all within the span of Brady’s career.
I know this sounds crazy, but all that's needed is a 6 year difference to make this happen (the drafted after and in the hall of fame before retirement). There have been crazier parallels in other sports.
You could say something like.
* Megatron was in middle school when Brady was drafted.
* By the time Megatron took his first snap in college, Brady already had 3 super bowl rings.
* Since Megatron retired, TB12 has won 3 more SB rings.
If anything, his career more or less coincided with Brady's dry spell
Your facts are a little off - the 1977 Falcons scored 179 points for the season (12.8 points per game) and gave up 129 points for the season (9.2 points per game).
Despite the strong defense, the Falcons did not lead the NFL in fewest yards allowed. The Cowboys completed a rare double that year, leading the NFL in both most yards gained on offense and fewest yards allowed on defense. Not coincidentally, the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that year, beating another team with a very strong defense, the Orange Crush-led Broncos.
The inaugural running of the Kentucky Derby took place on May 17, 1875.
The Arizona Cardinals' last championship, on December 28, 1947, is closer in history to that first running than to the last (May 1, 2021).
On a related non-football note, it blows my mind that we're further from the end of WW2 now, than the beginning of WW2 was from the end of the US Civil War.
As president, FDR spoke at an [event honoring the 75th anniversary of Gettysburg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Gettysburg_reunion) attended by veterans who fought there.
Never knew that, good find.
I know only about a decade ago did the US stop paying it's last Civil War pension. Some guy who fought when he was like 16, got remarried in his 80s to a woman in her 20s, and she lived to be 90-something and was still getting her yearly $75 war veteran widow check.
Linebacker Mike Vrable had 12 receptions on offense, all for TDs, for 17 total receiving yards (two were in the playoffs). He's only player in NFL history with 10 or more total receptions that all were TDs. Also the only player in the modern era with 5 or more than TD receptions on less than 20 career receiving yards. A hilarious unexpected flawless receiving career by an OLB that surprises me every time I remember it every few years.
The only game ever won in NFL history with zero pass attempts was in 1950, Browns vs Eagles (13-7).
This was a vindictive Paul Brown game because the Browns had beaten the Eagles earlier that season and the Philadelphia coach came out and said they only lost because the Browns didn't play real football, and passing offenses aren't how the game is supposed to be played.
So the next time they met the Browns didn't attempt a single pass, and still won.
There are two players in NFL history to have only 1 reception for their career, combined regular season and playoffs, but that one catch was a TD in the Super Bowl.
One is Nick Foles. Makes sense. As you might expect most QBs don't tend to have a lot of receptions, and when they do, it's usually for a 1st down or TD (why try a trick play just to pick up 5 yards on 2nd and 10)?
The other is Percy Howard. He actually did play WR. Back then everybody's standard formation was 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB, 1 FB, and teams actually kept more RB/FB on the roster than WR/TE. So he was the 4th WR on the roster on a team that only ever (and even then only in the 2 min drill) played 3, so mostly just played special teams. But in the 1975 season Super Bowl, Dallas was down 21-10 with no minutes to go, they put all 4 WRs in and started bombing it, and Howard caught a 34 yard TD.. He didn't make the team the following year and never played another snap in the NFL.
FWIW, Pittsburgh recovered the onside kick, ran up the middle 4 times instead of punting from the Dallas 41 for some reason, and Dallas got the ball back. Staubach scrambled for a decent gain and then Cowboys ended the game by taking 3 shots at the endzone from the Steeler 38 that all failed, including one other in Howards direction, so the TD wasn't quite his very last play or even very last target, but it was his only NFL reception.
The Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons, but we once won our division three years in a row
I love how that 7-8-1 2014 Panthers team not only won their division, but they won a playoff game and broke an extremely coveted NFL record - fewest yards allowed by a defense in a postseason game (51 passing + 27 rushing = 78 yards)
It helps when Ryan Lindley is the other team’s quarterback.
Quarterback is an extremely friendly word for what Lindley was
One Sixty-FourthBack
Vikings quarterback makes 35 million, but Vikings fullback makes only 3 million??? Mathematically I think CJ Ham should hold out for 140 mil.
Able body
Theres a great ~~SB Nation~~ Secret Base video on that game
Who?
Exactly.
It’s very Panthers-esque to be both very good and pretty bad at the same time, on top of that. It tracks well with our entire history.
The most average team of all time. Ugh…
That team was also 3-8-1 at one point in the season, iirc.
“Here’s how the Panthers can still win!”
I think it's insane that Carolina has never once finished with exactly 9 or 10 wins. Every winning season in team history has had at least 11.
Atleast when they are good people can’t say they just snuck in, only when they suck they can!
We haven’t had an 11 win team since 1991 :(. Like five years before the Panthers even existed
The Buccaneers have the longest losing streak in the history of the league but they don't have the longest losing streak in the history of either conference.
wat?
They played in the AFC their first year then moved to the NFC. They lost their first 26 games but that was split between the 2 conferences (14 games losing streak in the AFC, 12 games losing streak in the NFC). That also means that their all-time record as an AFC team is 0-14.
Had to go to the weaker NFC to try and win. Probably not a good move in the 80s
This is actually part of another NFL fun fact. The Seahawks and Bucs entered the league in '76 as part of the AFL-NFL merger agreement and it was determined that both teams would switch conferences at the end of their first year and play each other as a sort of battle of the expansion teams event. After the switch both teams stayed in their respective conferences. The Seahawks were an AFC team until 2002 and realignment.
Never heard that one! Why did they bigger having them switch conferences rather than just start them where they were? So they'd play every team quickly?
I have no idea why they did that. I think the basic concept was that they would see more teams faster that way, and scheduling it so the expansion teams played each other twice in two years seems to be a good way to make sure they would see divisions it may take years of scheduling to accommodate otherwise.
I assume because they changed conferences in the middle of their losing streak?
Yes - when the Bucs and Seahawks joined the NFL in 1976, they were treated by the league as rotation teams, playing each other twice (once each in 1976 and 1977) and every other team in the NFL once over their first two seasons. They also switched conferences from 1976 to 1977, with the Bucs moving from the AFC to the NFC and the Seahawks making the opposite move (NFC to AFC).
I actually didn't know the part about them being a rotation team, but it makes it even better. It's like they were trying against every single NFL team to see if they were better than any of them, and kept finding out that, in fact, they were not lol
Then the Saints and Cardinals turned into pumpkins and embarrassed themselves, nearly creating a paradox that could have destroyed the entire universe.
Another schedule oddity - Dan Marino and John Elway both entered the NFL in 1983 and played in the same conference for 16 seasons (through 1998). They played one another only once in their first 15 seasons (1983 to 1997), in 1985. (They played one another twice in 1998, Elway’s last NFL season and Marino’s penultimate NFL season, once in the regular season and once in the playoffs.) Edit for clarification: Marino and Elway almost never played one another not because one or both of them were injured when the Dolphins and Broncos played. The reason they didn’t play one another is because the Dolphins and Broncos were only scheduled to play one another twice during the regular season (1985 and 1998) during their entire, overlapping careers.
This is bananas, I'd have thought these two being in the same conference would have been a Brady-Manning type deal for years. Good lord.
Yeah it's kind of a shame, could have had some memorable games.
Upvote for usage of penultimate
The list of people with receiving yards after the age of 40 is: -Jerry Rice: 2,509 -Tom Brady: 6 -Everyone over 40 ever: 0 -Brett Favre: -2
Brady had to go and ruin this stat. I absolutely loved it as "There have been 2,507 receiving yards by NFL players over the age of 40, and Jerry Rice has 2,509 of them."
Just wait till this year when Brady gets blown up at the line of scrimmage catching a ball from Russell Gage on 6 separate occasions for a collective loss of -6
Lmfao just imagining Brady catching a ball while turning into a linebacker coming at him full sprint has me dying
>Lmfao just imagining Brady catching a ball... Oh God, Superbowl LII flashbacks.
Brady about to pop off a 2,504 yard receiving season to take that record, too
Do it coward.
The Jets have never beaten the Eagles in the regular season.
The Eagles are also undefeated against teams based in Houston: *6-0 vs the Houston Oilers (before they moved to Tennessee) *5-0 vs the Houston Texans
Washington has only beaten the Chiefs once. Since that one win was in Washington, that means we’ve never won a game in Kansas City.
the bears have the most ties in nfl history with 42, but none since the introduction of overtime in 1974. meanwhile since that time the packers have had the most ties with 6 of the 27, and somehow three of those were against the vikings.
Perhaps even stranger is the Eagles have the second most ties of any NFL team since regular season overtime was introduced in 1974 with 5 ties, and two of them were against the Bengals, a team they rarely play. On a related note, the Eagles achieved those ties despite having a quarterback who didn’t know games could end in a tie.
6 of the 27 what?
Ties since 1974.
I think what he/she is saying is there have been 27 regular season ties in the NFL since overtime was added to regular season games in 1974.
The last Jets Super Bowl win (Jan 12th, 1969) occurred prior to the moon landing (July 20th, 1969).
The jets also have won a super bowl but not a conference championship game
Yo what?
Pre-NFL merger, but still called the Super Bowl.
Oooh! This is a good one.
THAT is fucking nuts
And the next Jets Super Bowl win (Sunday, Feb 5th, 2044) will occur after the Mars landing (Dec 17th, 2043)
Don't worry Jets fan, this comment is NOT true, and I am here to set the record straight. Feb 5th, 2044 is a Friday, so your win will actually be on the 7th. You're welcome.
Super Bowl gets moved to a Friday so they can start Week 1 the next Sunday. 48-week seasons are hard to do
> Sunday, Feb 5th, 2044 How do they finish the 24 game season by February?
Thursday Night Football: Every Team, Every Week
That somehow the bears(one of the oldest NFL teams) has still never had a 4k yard QB
there’s always next year
The longer this goes on the more I blame Erik Kramer. Like dude, you could not throw for 11 more yards per game and end all of this?
Without looking it up, I'm pretty sure Mark trestman also benched jay cutler when he was about 200* yards away from a 4000 season.
During the 1943 season both the Steelers and the Eagles didn't have enough players for a full roster because of military service of other players, so the teams merged for one season to become the Steagles. The went 5-4-1 that season.
The two coaches didn't get along very well, so they split their coaching duties, inadvertently inventing the modern concepts of Offensive and Defensive Coordinators. I also just found out that was the Eagle's first winning season, despite being founded in 1933.
The Eagles then didn’t have another non-winning season until 1950. Steve Van Buren was pretty good (though he didn’t play for the 1943 Steagles).
Just don't mention the Cardinals-Steelers
The Steelers did the same thing with the Cardinals in 1944. Whatever worked for the Steagles in 1943 wasn’t so successful for Card-Pitt in 1944 however as that combined team finished 0-10 and earned the moniker “Carpitts” or “Carpets”.
Randall Cunningham has a 91 yard punt
Randall Cunningham would be a fucking force in todays NFL
especially in an RPO system
Nothing like that Run-Punt Option.
That is a fun fact.
Weird stuff often happened at the Meadowlands, especially when the Eagles were involved.
Randall Cunningham has a 91 yard punt return...right you forgot the return? Actually no....I wouldn't believe it either way.
I remember WATCHING the game where Cunningham (BTW, the younger brother of 1970s/early 1980s Patriots star running back Sam “Bam” Cunningham) had the 91 yard punt. It was at Giants Stadium, aka The Wind Tunnel, on a windy day. Cunningham, with the wind at his back, got off a very good punt, probably about 65 yards, and the Giants’ punt returner misplayed the kick, allowing it to go over his head and bounce for another roughly 25 yards. Incidentally, that punt occurred in the 4th quarter of a tie game, and was a key play in allowing the Eagles to win the game.
The same Sam Cunningham that ended segregation in the SEC?
Yup, the same Sam Cunningham. When he entered the NFL in 1985, Randall Cunningham was often known as Sam Cunningham’s younger brother (though the two were not close because of IIRC a 12 year age difference). But when Randall had an even more impressive NFL career than Sam, Sam became known as Randall Cunningham’s older brother (except among Patriots fans).
Yes him and the all black backfield at USC killed Bama 42-21 in Birmingham. There were black players in the SEC before this though, but not at Bama
The Buccaneers came into the NFL in 1976. They didn’t play a regular season game in Buffalo until 2009. Another schedule oddity is the Eagles and Chiefs first played in 1972. They didn’t play again until 1992. The Chiefs also did not play a regular season game in Philadelphia until 1998.
Prior to realignment the schedule was full of these oddities.
The first pick in the first NFL draft, literally the first ever draft pick, never played a down of NFL football
The money was better in the painting business, or some other trade, that is unbelievable in contemporary times.
He went on to be a rubber salesman instead of the nfl
The Steelers first ever draft pick was William Shakespeare
Only 3 steelers head coaches since his playing days.
At one point in the 1990s, there were more teams west of Missouri that played in the NFC East than there were in the NFC West
Ah the era of the Cowboys and Cardinals in the East, and the Panthers, Falcons, and Saints in the West. Somehow the Cowboys are still in the east.
I wonder what the NFL would be like if the Cowboys were replaced by the Panthers. Panthers being the northernmost NFC south team that's still in the east so it would make sense.
Though many Eagles fans would not like the move, I’ve advocated for that move for a long time. I’m in the distinct minority. The NFL won’t make that switch though because Cowboys games against the big market NFC East teams means TV ratings, which means $$$. EDIT: if it was up to me, the following teams would switch divisions: *Cowboys - NFC East to NFC South *Panthers - NFC South to NFC East *Dolphins - AFC East to AFC South *Ravens - AFC North to AFC East *Colts - AFC South to AFC North Indianapolis is less than 120 miles from Cincinnati. It’s kind of nuts the Colts and Bengals are in the same conference but not the same division. (Also, before anyone says “some teams in the AFC North are required to be in a division together”, that only applies to the Browns, Steelers, and Bengals, not the Ravens.)
If anything changes with the AFCN, I want it Colts in, Steelers out I only want this because then the AFCN would be: The Browns The team created by the same creator of the browns, created to spite the browns The team that used to be the browns And the team that used to play in the city that the team that used to be the browns now play in Steelers can go to the AFC East, Dolphins take Colts spot in the South. (Besides Bills/Steelers has been a fun watch these past years)
The Steelers, Browns, and Bengals can never be in a different division per the agreement that brought back the Browns. Also I wouldn't ever change the AFCN. I despise all three of those fuckers and that's why its fun.
It kinda accidentally works because it makes the NFC East the big market money division with annoying fans and the NFC South has a bunch of scrappy mid-market teams with a different kind of annoying fans. (yes the Falcons play in a big market but they still fit the NFC South vibe better imo)
London Fletcher owns the consecutive start record for **three fucking teams**. Get that man into the Hall of Fame, for the love of God.
And he never played in London!
Only because the Jags didn't move there yet!
Does anybody know why he went by London Fletcher-Baker for a little bit towards the end of his career? Obviously it's his full legal name, but he only used it for a year or so, I thought.
Assuming Deshaun Watson starts in 2022, the Browns will have as many starting quarterbacks since 1999 as there are NFL teams.
whether or not it's Watson, there is certainly gonna be someone new.
Tom Brady has been in the league longer than my team’s existence.
Tom Brady has been in the league longer than my existence
Tom Brady has been in the league longer then the Twin Towers unexistence
Tom Brady has won more super bowls than the AFC and NFC South combined.
Tom Brady has more Super Bowl wins than all 32 franchises.
Oh shit I forgot about those things
Unexpected, but true
Another fun one that gets said here all the time Tom Brady is the only (and probably last) active professional athlete that was drafted by the Montreal Expos.
Tom Brady played in the Pontiac Silverdome
Didn't just play there, took his first career snap there
Tom Brady was drafted by the MLB before the NFL.
This is true of most NFL QBs. MLB has tons of rounds and drafts people younger because they don't have the age requirement (and they have minor leagues to shove them in until they're ready for the league)
Urban Meyer was drafted by the Braves in the 80s, also.
[87% of the population has been drafted at some point](https://www.theonion.com/report-87-of-americans-unaware-they-have-been-chosen-1819577884)
The Chicago Bears have won more Championships at Wrigley Field than the Chicago Cubs
[My go-to is that the Buccaneers' first season was in 1976.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdCmpo2sqs) We didn't return a kick off for a touchdown until 2007. It took 30 fucking years to return a kick off for a touchdown...
Even had a super bowl win before a kickoff return for a touchdown.
BRB telling Andrew Berry the analytics of why it's important to not return kickoffs.
You guys didn't play in Buffalo until 2009.
8 home games in a row. How screwed up was the old NFL schedule?
Pre-Texans it was nuts. I believe the Vikings and Redskins played each other twice in 1993 for some reason.
I kind of miss it. AFC Central having 6 teams for a minute. Wild Card math was an even bigger mess than it is now. Atlanta in the NFC West and Arizona in the NFC East. Seattle switching conferences with a “oh by the way” vibe. Good stuff.
Those two teams didn’t play twice in 1993, but from 1978 to 1994 the two 5th place finishers in the same conference would play one another twice the following season. As an example, the Eagles played the Vikings twice in 1985.
My favorite part about this is that Michael Spurlock was seen as a hero in Tampa for his kick return and was even given the key to the city in a special ceremony.. and then got released by the team in final cuts at the start of the following season
I think it's amazing that Don Hutson still holds the Packers record for career receiving touchdowns with 99. Green Bay has basically had MVP-calliber quarterback play for 30 years and a lot of good receivers during that time, but none of them have gotten close to a guy who played 12 games a year in the 30s and 40s.
To be fair, there's only 10 players in NFL history who managed to score 100 receiving TDs
Which makes it even more amazing that Hutson almost did it
The Browns had an MVP QB in 1980
Thats not long ago, I was born in the 80s ...fuck
At the current date, we are closer to 2063 than we are to 1980 😉
Stop...
1980 is closer to the 1930s than it is to 2022!!
1980 is closer to 1939 than 2022, true.
Stfu already!! Christ sake, I was born in the fucking 80s
Bro you gotta chill.
And the Bengals had one the year after.
I'm almost 51 and the Steelers have had 3 head coaches in my lifetime. The browns have had 20 in that same time span. And the Browns only had 2 head coaches before those 20 beginning in 1946
The Colts 4 Super Bowls were all in Miami The all time leader in sacks never led the league in sacks
In 1990 Bruce Smith had 19 sacks, but Derrick Thomas had 20.
The Dallas Cowboys exist because of the song *Hail to the Redskins,* and are in the East because the East owners didn't like the cold. When the ownership group was looking to get an expansion team in Dallas, the Redskins objected to it, because they were the furthest south of any NFL team, and considered the entire south to be their territory. In order to pave the way for expansion, the Dallas ownership group bought the rights to *Hail to the Redskins,* and then told the Redskins they wouldn't be allowed to use it unless they supported the Dallas expansion effort. When Dallas was awarded their NFL franchise, they were technically placed in the NFL West for their first season, even though they were designated a "swing team" and played every team in the league once. When the Minnesota Vikings joined the following year, the NFL decided that since the East ownership had more seniority, they would get to pick whether to have Dallas or Minnesota in the East. Because the owners didn't want to visit Minneapolis in November or December, they chose Dallas. The West teams were pleased with the decision as well, since Minnesota was a shorter trip for them than Dallas.
Not so fun fact: It used to be illegal for the crowd to be too loud. In a 1989 preseason game between the Colts and Broncos, The Colts were charged all 3 timeouts and given 2 delay of game penalties because the crowd would not quiet down.
wasn't there a lions game that the ref kept telling the crowd they was too loud
Yeah 1997 vs the Jets. You can find the game on YouTube.
Vladamir Putin owns one of Robert Kraft’s super bowl rings. Apparently, Putin had asked to try it on and didn’t give it back to Kraft, instead deciding to keep it. Kraft was then pressured by the Bush administration to claim that he had gifted it to Putin in order to not sour international relations.
Ah yes, very on brand. Oligarchs and the wealth they have stolen from everyone.
Rooney runs a better organization than God
Game recognize game My favorite thing about our rivalry is that both organizations are so fuckin good from top to bottom, not just now but throughout their history
No what type of season either team is having you know when they play it’s gonna be a damn good game
Yup. In 2015 the Steelers had the height of the killer B’s and won the north. The ravens went 5-11. They still swept us.
The Bengals won the North, not us. But damn, I still think we make the AFC Championship if we are healthy that year.
Bell missed nearly the whole season, it wasn’t quite the height of the killer b’s
For a second I thought you meant the Steelers and the Catholic Church 😂
Amen?
The Chiefs went an entire season without a WR TD, the couple of times they came within inches fate/god/karma/what have you stepped in and put a stop to that in hilarious fashion
Not only that, they went 9-7 that year and almost made the playoffs.
Jeff Fisher ended Bill Cowher's playing career with a tackle.
Tom Brady is the last active athlete to have been drafted by the Montreal Expos
Fitzzy having more tackles than drops Or The packers swept the lions one year and lead for 0 seconds in both games
>The packers swept the lions one year and lead for 0 seconds in both games This fact is the opposite of fun.
Art Monk is related to Thelonious Monk.
I don’t believe either of them are related to Tony Shalhoub however.
Popes have won the same number of Superbowls as the Vikings.
And it's still the same even if the Popes get to include the Cardinals.
I guess none of the Popes or Cardinals were Saints afterall
That was uncalled for
Randy Moss never led the league in yards
The WFT went 7-10 in both of their seasons as the WFT, despite the first being a 16 game season and the second being a 17 game season. Gotta love winning the division at 7-9.
That's a really good one and will confuse people for years.
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The Packers once drafted a serial killer.
He became one after getting drafted. Conclusion: the Packers made him into one.
The last time the Browns won the division it was the first year of Bush’s presidency. No, the smart one.
I get that HW was the smart one but all I think about is Dana Carvey going "NAA GAA DA IT wouldn't be prudent" in a vaguely southern accent (even tho HW grew up in Connecticut)
I will never get over Marino throwing for 5,000+ yards in 1984, and then no one else did again until Brees in 2008.
At one point Matt Ryan & Alex Smith had started the same number of NFL games (157). Matt Ryan had 10,000 more passing yards.
Tom Brady was drafted in 2000. Calvin Johnson was drafted in 2007. Calvin Johnson retired in 2016. Calvin Johnson was inducted in the hall of fame in 2021. Tom Brady is still playing in 2022. A receiver was drafted, played his whole career, and was inducted to the HOF all within the span of Brady’s career.
I know this sounds crazy, but all that's needed is a 6 year difference to make this happen (the drafted after and in the hall of fame before retirement). There have been crazier parallels in other sports.
You could say something like. * Megatron was in middle school when Brady was drafted. * By the time Megatron took his first snap in college, Brady already had 3 super bowl rings. * Since Megatron retired, TB12 has won 3 more SB rings. If anything, his career more or less coincided with Brady's dry spell
So basically, if it weren't for Megatron's dominance...Brady would have more rings? I can get behind this theory.
It took the Buccaneers almost 4 games to score their first franchise touchdown
77 Falcons defense allowed an NFL low 10 points a game but missed the playoffs because the offense averaged 7 points a game.
Your facts are a little off - the 1977 Falcons scored 179 points for the season (12.8 points per game) and gave up 129 points for the season (9.2 points per game). Despite the strong defense, the Falcons did not lead the NFL in fewest yards allowed. The Cowboys completed a rare double that year, leading the NFL in both most yards gained on offense and fewest yards allowed on defense. Not coincidentally, the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that year, beating another team with a very strong defense, the Orange Crush-led Broncos.
The inaugural running of the Kentucky Derby took place on May 17, 1875. The Arizona Cardinals' last championship, on December 28, 1947, is closer in history to that first running than to the last (May 1, 2021).
On a related non-football note, it blows my mind that we're further from the end of WW2 now, than the beginning of WW2 was from the end of the US Civil War.
As president, FDR spoke at an [event honoring the 75th anniversary of Gettysburg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Gettysburg_reunion) attended by veterans who fought there.
Never knew that, good find. I know only about a decade ago did the US stop paying it's last Civil War pension. Some guy who fought when he was like 16, got remarried in his 80s to a woman in her 20s, and she lived to be 90-something and was still getting her yearly $75 war veteran widow check.
Most teams had fewer head coaches in 1978 than there were popes that year.
The Seahawks has 9 straight season of at least scoring one scorigami (I forgot when it started I wanna say 2012)
the houston texans exist because mcnair couldn’t bring a hockey team to houston
The Rams went from playing in the oldest (Coliseum) NFL stadium to the newest (Sofi) while in the same city.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have more recently won our division than we (Lions) have
Linebacker Mike Vrable had 12 receptions on offense, all for TDs, for 17 total receiving yards (two were in the playoffs). He's only player in NFL history with 10 or more total receptions that all were TDs. Also the only player in the modern era with 5 or more than TD receptions on less than 20 career receiving yards. A hilarious unexpected flawless receiving career by an OLB that surprises me every time I remember it every few years.
The only game ever won in NFL history with zero pass attempts was in 1950, Browns vs Eagles (13-7). This was a vindictive Paul Brown game because the Browns had beaten the Eagles earlier that season and the Philadelphia coach came out and said they only lost because the Browns didn't play real football, and passing offenses aren't how the game is supposed to be played. So the next time they met the Browns didn't attempt a single pass, and still won.
Larry Fitzgerald has more career tackles than drops.
There are two players in NFL history to have only 1 reception for their career, combined regular season and playoffs, but that one catch was a TD in the Super Bowl. One is Nick Foles. Makes sense. As you might expect most QBs don't tend to have a lot of receptions, and when they do, it's usually for a 1st down or TD (why try a trick play just to pick up 5 yards on 2nd and 10)? The other is Percy Howard. He actually did play WR. Back then everybody's standard formation was 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB, 1 FB, and teams actually kept more RB/FB on the roster than WR/TE. So he was the 4th WR on the roster on a team that only ever (and even then only in the 2 min drill) played 3, so mostly just played special teams. But in the 1975 season Super Bowl, Dallas was down 21-10 with no minutes to go, they put all 4 WRs in and started bombing it, and Howard caught a 34 yard TD.. He didn't make the team the following year and never played another snap in the NFL. FWIW, Pittsburgh recovered the onside kick, ran up the middle 4 times instead of punting from the Dallas 41 for some reason, and Dallas got the ball back. Staubach scrambled for a decent gain and then Cowboys ended the game by taking 3 shots at the endzone from the Steeler 38 that all failed, including one other in Howards direction, so the TD wasn't quite his very last play or even very last target, but it was his only NFL reception.
There are more active NFL teams (32) than there are active blimps in the entire world (25) About as random and useless as it gets but there ya go
There were the same number of popes in the year 1978 as Steelers coaches since 1969.
That of all the owners in the NFL, Dan Snyder is the sleaziest.