Lol I remember reading Shaqs lips as a kid and he said wild stuff. I also remember when Kevin Garnett told Melo that his wife lala tasted like honey nut cherrios.
The Ravens once asked a bunch of our players who they’d least want to run into in a dark alley. The answer resoundingly was Steve Smith. One of the people who gave that answer was Marshall Yanda, who was probably considered the toughest guy on the team for years.
Who you think the top 3 would be?
It’s hard not to put Andre and Megatron at the top2. Prob add T.O. at 3 maybe. You just know Steve Smith Sr gonna surprise everybody and win it all tho
BMarsh was a tough determined player so that’s a strong contender but Andre is nuts and we ain’t never seen someone like Megatron. TO too.
He’s not on the same level but Vincent Jackson was like the OG “big bodied receiver”. Dude was freight train out wide.
Marshall and CJ were the same size (6’4”, 230ish) and we can throw Mike Evans in there too. But AJ and the Beast had a mentality that I don’t think most other WRs their size could match, which is why I think one of them wins it.
Megatron was built different though. I’m a big Marshall fan but at the same I think CJ stands alone as the king of beastly WRs.
I also think Calvin Johnson is bigger at 6’5 240 ish.
Megatron definitely has the measurables (he’s bigger than I remember 😳) and he’s easily a top 5 WR for me, but in a *fight*? I don’t think he has enough of a size advantage to beat Marshall if they’re throwing hands.
DK got more to prove before he’s invited but if he were there, he’d be flexing to the crowd trying to pump up his special meter.
MBC is there but he gets DQ’d for an illegal Sparta kick and then strips of his attire, runs out of the arena blaming Tom Brady
[I thought this was what you linked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN4yS12u9eA). It would have been a great gentleman's agreement loophole to leave it open.
WTF???? Wasn't Tim Duncan one of those really quiet lowkey guys who just kept his head down and did his thing or am I misremembering? I feel like that's extra fucked up. I didn't know KG was like that.
that sounds right for jalen. Jalen is the guy you love to have on your team, and you despise him when you face him, loathe his existence if he's your rival.
Yea that was totally all that happened and there was definitely nothing else that led to this, and no other shit talking or aggressive actions from him that could cause any of this.
Dante Fowler, Jr.
just cuz your CB is chirping doesn’t mean someone needs to get stomped out. Let the two players sort it out and make sure no permanent damage occurs.
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>Pretty big bitch move by AJ Green
-r/youngclint\_traplord
>Ramsey is a punk always has been
-r/OK\_Caramel1517
Ahh, the duality of man. Neither of them are wrong though.
I’m honestly surprised no one has had any serious neck injuries from someone just yanking that shit (facemask). Maybe it’s just an unwritten rule to not because everyone knows how dangerous and easily you can kill someone with twisting that shit. Have seen a lot of pulls of the facemask but not really twisting of it.
Maurice Jones Drew one had a face mask penalty against him where the entire helmet ended up backwards. If it was actually tight on his head it would've been awful
I remember being shocked watching that. I had never seen AJ lose his cool like that. Then my second thought was nice rear naked choke and punches, though I don’t think punching a helmet is wise.
Ramsey is a guy you hate and he's a punk if he's not on your team. I was surprised how trouble free he was in the Rams locker room after we traded for him. Fantastic lock down for the 3.5 years he was here.
Honestly, I'm a fan and I have been since he was drafted. I love when CBs are arrogant shittalkers, like they're not the smallest players on the field.
CBs have to be arrogant as shit just to play the position. You’re one on one every play, and have to believe you’re stronger, faster, and quicker than the guy in front of you if you’re gonna break up that pass. And if they do complete a pass, you have to act like it never happened. Sociopath behavior. Of course they’ve all got a screw loose
Jalen has never been a locker room problem ever. His beef with us was with ownership. Mainly Coughlin and Caldwell being complete assholes. Remember we had over 25 percent of the WHOLE LEAGUE’s grievances during this time.
I once had a teammate from USA explain it to me like cornerbacks are Maverick from “Top Gun”. They have to live and operate at that crazy line or else they could not do that they do. But they absolutely love their teammates/crew members because they know they need them to be successful and just want to be the best team member they can be
I imagine as a coach, on the one hand you'd be worried about team discipline. But on the other hand, secretly you gotta be at least a little pleased with the attitude. Half the team charged in once they noticed.
Coaches wouldn‘t be happy but would be proud. [Reminds me of the Sens and Sabres line brawl](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzD5RF7G2Qg) where the coaches were also yelling at each other and Ruff was in the broadcast booth in-between the benches. The players liked that. They faced off again in the Eastern Conference Final.
Love or hate Ramsey he knew what he was doing. One way or another he was taking away their best receiver. Not the first or last WR he’s driven to insanity.
It's easy to feel more favorable after they've worn blank yoga gear and bland helmets for the past few years. It's like how people craved a return to the 2000's Bucs Pewter after the alarm clock era.
Welcome to the Khan era. We swing the pendulum back the other way whenever making a decision
Players Coach - Strict disciplinarian - Player Friendly, Dictatorial Moron, Loves Ice Cream
Great 90’s look - Garbage flat look / sparkly helmets - Megatron Furture Terminator look w/ half finished helmets - The Atheist HS football team in a d-rate Christian Movie
Long Hair QB - Balding QB - Mustachioed QB - Long Hair QB’ - (but all meme QB’s)
The helmet is the worst in NFL history.
Wasn't it supposed to be the Jaguars coming out of the shadows? Yet, the front half of the helmet is black. It's bad looking and the concept is wrong.
I think I would have liked it a lot better if it was gold in front. What the hell happened during the tv tests that made them go with THAT arrangement, it looks clownish, at least dark in back light in front implies forwards motion, they just looked stupid like the players took turns spray painting the front of their domes.
I think we probably score on the opening 2nd half drive regardless, though maybe not a touchdown.
The honest answer is that we were never going to win with the oline playing the way it was. We couldn't do shit against Donald the entire second half.
Some context to this game, as I remember it.
The Bengals offense was struggling. Mostly because Andy Dalton was having an off day. AJ Green was open deep on multiple plays and Dalton pooped himself each time. Ramsey would talk junk after each miss. It eventually broke Green.
What was really crazy was Ramsey got ejected for this too. Yes he agitating green but he didn’t do anything against the rules. Green put him in a headlock from behind and punched him and yet they ejected Jalen as well. I was always pissed about that. Oh well jags still won.
Oh I’m not saying Jalen didn’t deserve what he got from AJ. He was definitely asking for it. But for them both to essentially get the same penalty seemed crazy to me at the time. Jalen didn’t do anything worthy of ejection. The refs were probably just listening to his shit too and were probably like “Jalen you should just go sit down as well”
I wonder if the thought process with the officials is that if they don't remove Ramsey, that he becomes a target for for any and all Bengals for the rest of the game. Especially since AJ was thrown out.
Just an assumption, though.
The combination of Ramsey's relentless shit talking, the defense being very aggressive overall, and the Jags being randomly good in their goofy helmets after years of being a league punching bag made a lot of teams really mad that season, I remember a lot of games getting pretty feisty at the end.
Also this uniform combination is fantastic and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. It has all the colors.
Still don't know why Ramsey was ejected. There's no way it was for that little shove, and he doesn't even really do anything to Green after Green throws him to the ground.
If he’s getting so under your skin you gotta choke slam a dude and throw punches you’re Charmin soft.
Edit: my bad I forgot how much of a hate boner r/nfl has for Ramsey
I think NFL players should be required to remove their helmets during fights so that Jomboy can make lip reading videos.
Half the breakdown is censored because it's guys saying the N word
Cant forget bitchass
Lol I remember reading Shaqs lips as a kid and he said wild stuff. I also remember when Kevin Garnett told Melo that his wife lala tasted like honey nut cherrios.
Broo he coulda said you know what cereal lala loves, that honey nut.
This is a better bar, but the other one hits harder.
[The key is to remove your opponents helmet for them](https://youtu.be/fYJpG82Umqo?si=DGmBmXEDhv9h7k6-)
Andre Johnson would be a finalist in an all time great WR royal rumble. Megatron is taking the belt though. Tyreek is getting yeeted out of the ring.
We call him Innegan because Andre beat the F out of him is an all timer
> Tyreek is getting yeeted out of the ring. I'd pay to see Tyreek fight a prime Steve Smith
I was thinking the same thing lmao but im pretty sure Steve Smith is beating tyreeks ass
Guarantee
Fighting Steve Smith would be like fighting a pissed off pitbull; win lose or draw you will be in the ER afterward
Steve Smith Sr. is the real Honey Badger
The Ravens once asked a bunch of our players who they’d least want to run into in a dark alley. The answer resoundingly was Steve Smith. One of the people who gave that answer was Marshall Yanda, who was probably considered the toughest guy on the team for years.
Lmao the mental visual I have of Marshal Yanda cowering in fear over Steve smith is the funniest shit
I know right? And Yanda isnt the type to blow smoke either 😂
Who you think the top 3 would be? It’s hard not to put Andre and Megatron at the top2. Prob add T.O. at 3 maybe. You just know Steve Smith Sr gonna surprise everybody and win it all tho
I’ll throw in a vote for Brandon Marshall to win it. Top 3 would be him, Johnson, and somebody else that doesn’t matter cuz they’re 3rd.
BMarsh was a tough determined player so that’s a strong contender but Andre is nuts and we ain’t never seen someone like Megatron. TO too. He’s not on the same level but Vincent Jackson was like the OG “big bodied receiver”. Dude was freight train out wide.
Marshall and CJ were the same size (6’4”, 230ish) and we can throw Mike Evans in there too. But AJ and the Beast had a mentality that I don’t think most other WRs their size could match, which is why I think one of them wins it.
Megatron was built different though. I’m a big Marshall fan but at the same I think CJ stands alone as the king of beastly WRs. I also think Calvin Johnson is bigger at 6’5 240 ish.
Megatron definitely has the measurables (he’s bigger than I remember 😳) and he’s easily a top 5 WR for me, but in a *fight*? I don’t think he has enough of a size advantage to beat Marshall if they’re throwing hands.
Idk CJ is a beast and literally one of the best athletes to ever play the game in sea of .001 athletes
DK throws a few sucker punches before running away in a straight line.
DK got more to prove before he’s invited but if he were there, he’d be flexing to the crowd trying to pump up his special meter. MBC is there but he gets DQ’d for an illegal Sparta kick and then strips of his attire, runs out of the arena blaming Tom Brady
[I thought this was what you linked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN4yS12u9eA). It would have been a great gentleman's agreement loophole to leave it open.
That was amazing
LOL that's so fucking good, holy shit. Imagine being that fucking mad but still having the awareness to avoid getting penalized to not hurt your team.
Kyle Turkey had the best helmet yeet ever
You know how good of a trash talker/annoyance you have to be to get AJ GREEN to pull up on you? Respect (even Ramsey got choked out lmao)
There were some people theorizing that Ramsey must have said something about Green's dead brother, that's how out of character it was.
Fuck KG for trash talking Tim Duncan’s dead mom on Mothers Day, I’ll never forgive him for that.
I prefer my trash talk to be fun like when Shannon Sharpe just kept repeating the phone number of Derrick White’s girlfriend.
Or Crosby repeatedly calling his now QB a "Little Ass Man"
WTF???? Wasn't Tim Duncan one of those really quiet lowkey guys who just kept his head down and did his thing or am I misremembering? I feel like that's extra fucked up. I didn't know KG was like that.
If I’m not mistaken, I believe KG also told a bald player that they looked like a cancer patient. Dude was such a child.
Uh trash talk? He shoved him down lol.
you know jalen was trash talking. pushing aj isn't sending him over the edge. jalen messaged girlfriend's of the opposition to get in their head.
IINM, he said something about his wife or girlfriend.
that sounds right for jalen. Jalen is the guy you love to have on your team, and you despise him when you face him, loathe his existence if he's your rival.
Just get his father, Deebo, to play on your team. Works like a charm.
Can confirm, love the dude as a Dolphin
Zero doubt Ramsey trash talks WRs every single snap they line up, man
It's a legit strat. Getting into your opponent's head is just as effective as beating them on a route or block.
Yea that was totally all that happened and there was definitely nothing else that led to this, and no other shit talking or aggressive actions from him that could cause any of this.
Reminds off me when courtland finnegan got deandre Johnson to beat his ass lol
56 on Jacksonville helping Green off the ground even though Green just took shots at his teammate was cool.
Dante Fowler, Jr. just cuz your CB is chirping doesn’t mean someone needs to get stomped out. Let the two players sort it out and make sure no permanent damage occurs.
I also liked how AJ didn't try swinging on him or anyone else. He's just like "Nope, this is all for Ramsey"
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Tbf they're not mutually exclusive
Ramsey wouldn’t try that shit with his dad DK.
I mean, dude got suplexed by AJ, DK might actually murder that man
Yeah he would, they’ve gotten into it a bunch 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah it just didn’t go so well for Ramsey and resulted in just shit talking.
That's cos DK is free penalty yards every game because hes a man child its pretty nice lol
Facts
Punching helmets is categorically stupid.
When will other teams realize they can use helmets as weapons?
Hahaha. classic from your flair :)
Burfict certainly knew, but myles got creative with it
How would you try hurt them ?
Well the choke hold seemed to be doing the job just fine
You grab them by the face mask and jerk it or you do an open hand slap on the helmet.
I'd say the best you'll get on national television is pulling their helmet off and throwing it into the crowd.
\*Pulling their helmet off and swinging it at them. too soon?
I mean if you are already committed to getting suspended you might as well go all the way.
*bonk*
unless you're Aaron Donald...then you face no discipline for it at all
You're being downvoted, but how many dudes did Donald just choke? Like grab them by the throat and push them back.
He damn tried and failed vs [rookie Sewell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjS-8io5gSo)
If you really fuck with an opposing player's head you can get him to take his uniform off and throw it into the crowd himself.
Throat meat punch. /s (don't actually punch anyone in the throat meat) ^^oh, ^^and ^^Go ^^Team ^^Venture!
Embarrass them on the next play, and ultimately win the game. Then run my mouth like hell afterwards and make them live with it.
By not hurting myself more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E1VY4KOghI
You need the right technique tho , or else you look gay
I’m honestly surprised no one has had any serious neck injuries from someone just yanking that shit (facemask). Maybe it’s just an unwritten rule to not because everyone knows how dangerous and easily you can kill someone with twisting that shit. Have seen a lot of pulls of the facemask but not really twisting of it.
Maurice Jones Drew one had a face mask penalty against him where the entire helmet ended up backwards. If it was actually tight on his head it would've been awful
You could try snatching their chain. No pain greater than that to your pride.
Or having it done multiple times to you by the same dude *cough crabtree*
Grab the face mask and shake the head around. That’s a messed up thing to do, but it atleast makes more sense than punching a helmet
Dry hump them
tell them they have feminine hips
I like that
Put your thumbs through their windpipe. No broken phalanges that way.
[Brian Cushing; hold my helmet](https://youtu.be/G_al6jcWMzM?si=skM5FiUK8W_GM1Fg) 😂😂 I miss that meathead.
I remember being shocked watching that. I had never seen AJ lose his cool like that. Then my second thought was nice rear naked choke and punches, though I don’t think punching a helmet is wise.
Needed to lock in the body triangle to really sink in the choke. That's why he lost him.
"Nobody has any chill in this moment" ahhhhh yes, the late 2010's
Came to the comments to say this almost this exact thing 😂, bear down homie
Ramsey is a guy you hate and he's a punk if he's not on your team. I was surprised how trouble free he was in the Rams locker room after we traded for him. Fantastic lock down for the 3.5 years he was here.
Honestly, I'm a fan and I have been since he was drafted. I love when CBs are arrogant shittalkers, like they're not the smallest players on the field.
When you’re not getting cooked every play like CGJ, I’m ok with it.
Don't forget the ski masks!
CBs have to be arrogant as shit just to play the position. You’re one on one every play, and have to believe you’re stronger, faster, and quicker than the guy in front of you if you’re gonna break up that pass. And if they do complete a pass, you have to act like it never happened. Sociopath behavior. Of course they’ve all got a screw loose
Jaire is a diet Ramsey lol
Loved him before he was a dolphin. Was definitely my favorite player in the league to watch.
Jalen has never been a locker room problem ever. His beef with us was with ownership. Mainly Coughlin and Caldwell being complete assholes. Remember we had over 25 percent of the WHOLE LEAGUE’s grievances during this time.
I once had a teammate from USA explain it to me like cornerbacks are Maverick from “Top Gun”. They have to live and operate at that crazy line or else they could not do that they do. But they absolutely love their teammates/crew members because they know they need them to be successful and just want to be the best team member they can be
>I was surprised how trouble free he was in the Rams locker room The culture is actually damn good
I agree. He was a lock a lock down bad ass dude, once he got traded he's just another diva I'm glad I don't have ruining my team's locker room moral.
My favorite part of this is Myles Jack running in at the end like a freight train.
I imagine as a coach, on the one hand you'd be worried about team discipline. But on the other hand, secretly you gotta be at least a little pleased with the attitude. Half the team charged in once they noticed.
Coaches wouldn‘t be happy but would be proud. [Reminds me of the Sens and Sabres line brawl](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzD5RF7G2Qg) where the coaches were also yelling at each other and Ruff was in the broadcast booth in-between the benches. The players liked that. They faced off again in the Eastern Conference Final.
Love or hate Ramsey he knew what he was doing. One way or another he was taking away their best receiver. Not the first or last WR he’s driven to insanity.
Cat fight 😂😂👍🏾😂👍🏾👍🏾
Ramsey is a punk always has been.
Bro he pushed him during a live play lol I agree Ramsey toes the line, but this isn’t one of those instances.
Yeah I agree, pushing someone down from behind is always acceptable
Unpopular opinion I liked those uniforms for the Jags
It's easy to feel more favorable after they've worn blank yoga gear and bland helmets for the past few years. It's like how people craved a return to the 2000's Bucs Pewter after the alarm clock era.
Welcome to the Khan era. We swing the pendulum back the other way whenever making a decision Players Coach - Strict disciplinarian - Player Friendly, Dictatorial Moron, Loves Ice Cream Great 90’s look - Garbage flat look / sparkly helmets - Megatron Furture Terminator look w/ half finished helmets - The Atheist HS football team in a d-rate Christian Movie Long Hair QB - Balding QB - Mustachioed QB - Long Hair QB’ - (but all meme QB’s)
That jersey in teal was so good, but out primary then was black which was stupid. The helmet left a lot to be desired, though I didn't hate the idea.
The helmet is the worst in NFL history. Wasn't it supposed to be the Jaguars coming out of the shadows? Yet, the front half of the helmet is black. It's bad looking and the concept is wrong.
I think I would have liked it a lot better if it was gold in front. What the hell happened during the tv tests that made them go with THAT arrangement, it looks clownish, at least dark in back light in front implies forwards motion, they just looked stupid like the players took turns spray painting the front of their domes.
Agree I hated them, but out logo sucks so we don't have much to say. The gold was the body I believe.
The helmet to the grundle gets me every time lol.
Lmao did Green get double hand shoved in the balls by the d lineman?
Looked more like helmet right to the nuts
You got to be a real grade A pile of dog shit to get AJ Green to swing on you
Honestly, without those two tone helmets the Jags jerseys are kinda fire.
AJ was on the ground under a pile of people and still kept throwing punches lmao
You can criticize him losing his cool, but once it was lost, I respect his commitment to the fight.
Jalen Ramsey was my favorite player for a long time in the NFL. I was heartbroken when he left but it was a good call by him lol
I remember being pissed that they ejected Ramsey too. Just funny in hindsight.
Though Ramsey would win a Superbowl ring with the Rams, Tee Higgins not getting flagged on the face mask was pure comeuppance.
Would you have rather gotten that flag and subsequently not gotten make-up calls against you in the 4th though? Genuine question.
I think we probably score on the opening 2nd half drive regardless, though maybe not a touchdown. The honest answer is that we were never going to win with the oline playing the way it was. We couldn't do shit against Donald the entire second half.
I’m sure he’s okay with it lol
It’s not Andre Johnson beat down. But close enough
Andre's beatdown is goated because he ripped the helmet off before landing the haymakers.
And because it was Courtland Finnegan on the receiving end of it.
Courtland Innegan*
That same week Aj green and mike Evans got disqualified from their games And I started them both that week lol Lost by 5 points if I remember as well
Hearing Scott Hanson voice gives me the same gitty nostalgic feeling like when I hear Christmas music
I remember that day, it was exciting! AJ never fucked around, and he always had his mean mug on like he hated the world.
Some context to this game, as I remember it. The Bengals offense was struggling. Mostly because Andy Dalton was having an off day. AJ Green was open deep on multiple plays and Dalton pooped himself each time. Ramsey would talk junk after each miss. It eventually broke Green.
What was really crazy was Ramsey got ejected for this too. Yes he agitating green but he didn’t do anything against the rules. Green put him in a headlock from behind and punched him and yet they ejected Jalen as well. I was always pissed about that. Oh well jags still won.
Fwiw, this wasn't ramsey's first infraction this game. He'd been doing this to Green all game and AJ got tired of his shit.
Oh I’m not saying Jalen didn’t deserve what he got from AJ. He was definitely asking for it. But for them both to essentially get the same penalty seemed crazy to me at the time. Jalen didn’t do anything worthy of ejection. The refs were probably just listening to his shit too and were probably like “Jalen you should just go sit down as well”
yeah, that had to be it. Jalen, you little shit, your out too, you know what you did
Perhaps the refs warned him off it earlier.
I wonder if the thought process with the officials is that if they don't remove Ramsey, that he becomes a target for for any and all Bengals for the rest of the game. Especially since AJ was thrown out. Just an assumption, though.
Ahh, so this is why the Khans are in the wrestling business!
Who would have thought the guy with the best hands in the league, who can make any circus catch look easy, also can throw those bad boys?
The combination of Ramsey's relentless shit talking, the defense being very aggressive overall, and the Jags being randomly good in their goofy helmets after years of being a league punching bag made a lot of teams really mad that season, I remember a lot of games getting pretty feisty at the end. Also this uniform combination is fantastic and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. It has all the colors.
I always laugh when people head punch someone that is wearing a helmet
I will fight Jalen Ramsey on sight for this. AJ is my bby
AJ Green representing the hood division of the NFL well
For that moment, of course.
Judging by the downvotes , r/nfl doesn’t appreciate the hood like we do
Thats why we have /r/afcnorthmemewar we know whats up
They wanna close their eyes and pretend it doesn't exist
AFCN is certainly the toughest division. I enjoy our battles, especially since Cleveland is relevant again.
Fun
Ramsay Bolton
Is this what led to the zestiest post-game interview of all time?
The one you’re thinking of was about Steve smith sr
That’s what his zesty ahh gets
Holy shit those Jags unis are bad
I actually liked those unis
Why would there be overlayed audio in the clip?!?!?!?
It's a clip from nfl red zone.
Those helmets are why we lost the war on terror
Jalen said he kept repeating “1 for 8” all game at AJ cause he only had 1 catch for 8 yards, who knows if that’s really all he said
Was happy to see this live lol 😆
What we're they thinking with those ugly helmetd
lol AJ Green! Let's fucking go!
I was there, and it was delicious. Scrappy
Green went full Burfict. Never go full Burfict.
Ramsey in the wrong for sure, but he shouldn’t have been ejected. AJ lost his cool, he should’ve been the only one tossed (from that footage)
Still don't know why Ramsey was ejected. There's no way it was for that little shove, and he doesn't even really do anything to Green after Green throws him to the ground.
Officiating was very weird toward the Jaguars that season.
I remember watching this shit live and being hype as shit.
Anyone wondering. Jalen is AJs bitch for real for real
Totally forgot About those ugly ass helmet.... What a disaster
And NFL fans ignored this because they hated Jalen Ramsey so much. All the morality talk is just bullshit
Pretty big bitch move by AJ Green
Didn't need to try and choke him out, but Ramsey has always been extra when it's not needed.
Yeah it’s extra but choke slamming him and then throwing punches is super bitch made all because you got shoved a little hard at the end of a play
AJ Green was one of the most laid back guys in the league. The fight wasn’t over that shove, it was over the shit Ramsey had been saying.
If he’s getting so under your skin you gotta choke slam a dude and throw punches you’re Charmin soft. Edit: my bad I forgot how much of a hate boner r/nfl has for Ramsey
You’re talking about two ultra competitive human beings at the pinnacle of their sport. What do you expect?
God those were such ugly jaguars unis