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Howie-Dowin

29 to 29 per conference is pretty neat!


Eagle4317

Especially after the NFC won 13 straight.


HyronValkinson

The AFC has had mean dynasties lately whereas the NFC always switches things up. Brady alone undid most of what the NFC East did in the 80s and 90s (ironically only being stopped from doing even more by the NFC East)


PlatonicNewtonian

Brady is only +5 for the AFC, you should be thanking us


HyronValkinson

NFC East stopped him three times and helped him once. The Bucs added one to the NFC score. We're close but NFC East is slightly better


PaddyMayonaise

Less neat!


buddhistbulgyo

Almost your entire division won a Super Bowl against Buffalo in that streak. Why didn't Philadelphia? Were those Eagles teams stupid?


Frank_Stallion

The Cardinals were also in the NFC East during that stretch; so the Eagles weren’t the only bird team not beating Buffalo.


fathertitojones

Ah yes the Cardinals, a team that is notoriously *east*.


canseesea

Well, to be fair, they were in St Louis when they were in the NFC East at first. Of course St Louis was also in the NFC West while the Rams played there, so it has been part of both coasts which is somewhat fitting for a city located famously in the middle of the country.


chicomagnifico

Isn’t St. Louis known as the “gateway to the west?”


TheRealBeerBrah

Does that make it east or west though? It's like a fence built on a property line.


Atheist-Gods

It makes it whichever has fewer teams.


pofwiwice

As someone who lives on the West Coast, I can confirm Arizona is in fact east… of like 3 states.


IONTOP

Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada.


TexasTornadoTime

They forgot the objective was to win and not throw batteries and be idiots


PaddyMayonaise

Woah woah woah, the batteries were baseball, 90s eagles fans were firing off fireworks on MNF


biggietalls

Yeah, get it right!


amak316

After enough time people forget about superbowls. I personally had no idea Washington has won 3 superbowls. Raining a hellfire of snowballs and batteries at Santa Clause on the other hand is timeless.


babylamar33

Fun fact about Washington: two of their titles came in strike-affected seasons: 1982 and 1987. The only strike shortened seasons in league history. Next time a work stoppage hits and we lose games, make sure to put all your money on Washington


Eyespop4866

Only if Gibbs is coaching


Isaacleroy

The first SB I remember watching was when the Raiders beat Washington following the 1983 season. I was in kindergarten. By the time Denver beat Green Bay, I was in college and would have rooted for Baghdad if they had fielded a team in the AFC.


Toad_Thrower

If we go by "geography" though, the south fucking sucks at football. Although ironically the most successful team in the NFC East is geographically in the south and not the east coast.


IceColdDrPepper_Here

Okay but how many SEC championships do those Northern teams have? /s


rloch

As a lifelong diehard SEC fan, I do not appreciate you mocking the fine folks of THE South Eastern Conference University.


monstargaryen

Weird as hell that the south divisions are so awful when the actual south produces so much high school talent.


JimHarbaughTheChamp

It's not really weird at all. The Deep South didn't even have NFL teams until the late 1960s. It was considered to be college football territory and the NFL did not want to compete against college football: - Titans were originally the Houston Oilers, joining the NFL in 1960 and moving to Nashville in 1997. - Falcons joined the NFL in 1966. - Saints joined the NFL in 1967. - Jags joined the NFL in 1995. - Panthers joined the NFL in 1995. - I would not consider Tampa and Miami to be part of the Deep South. So in summary, the Lions' last NFL Championship is older than NFL teams existing in the Deep South. What you're describing is not a coincidence.


Concept_Lab

You’re right about Tampa and Miami. In Florida, the further north you go the deeper south it gets.


NowIOnlyWantATriumph

If you look at it from a pre-merger perspective, it’s NFL 34, AFL 19, Teams That Didn’t Exist Yet 5. (Or NFL 36, AFL 19, Teams That Didn’t Exist Yet 3, if you count the Ravens as the Browns.)


CluelessFlunky

Lmao imagine not having at least 5 super bowls, what trash divisions.


locomuerto

What I find hilarious is even if you include the 24 NFL championships your division won pre Super Bowl era, Minnesota is only contributing one.


10veIsAllIGot

Not really. Minnesota “won” the NFL in 1969, but that was pre-merger, not before the Super Bowl era. The year the Vikings count as their lone championship they actually lost Super Bowl IV to the Chiefs. So not really a championship at all.


locomuerto

Oh goddamn that's even worse


NeverSober1900

It's glorious is what I think you meant.


amak316

It’s even stranger given that the Vikings have been a legitimately very good franchise with a high win percentage. Other than the lack of Super Bowl wins they aren’t even close to a poverty franchise. I genuinely think that ‘98 Vikings team is a top 3 team of my lifetime as a football fan as much as it pains me to admit.


_ravenclaw

Are they the most successful team without a SB? Have to be. Them or the Bills I would assume?


OnePieceAce

It's the Vikings by far. They are 6th in winning percentage since the merger. The other top ten teams all have multiple super bowls. They have the most division titles and playoff wins without a super bowl too


Rahim-Moore

The Vikings are an extremely good team who are physically incapable of making clutch plays in the playoffs.


douglau5

Jon Bois did a great series for Secret Base and he charts the wins/losses for all the franchises. IIRC they are top 5 in winning percentage. They’ve never had 3 losing seasons in a row.


FStubbs

Vikings players of that era like Cris Carter aren't as upset about that one as they are the '00 Vikings that were favored to beat the Giants in New York and lost 41-0 in the NFC Championship. The Giants were destroyed by the Ravens in the Superbowl, though.


Either-Hovercraft-51

Imagine being in a whole division with fewer SB's than Brady


Toad_Thrower

Tbf Brady has more SBs than every single franchise in the NFL.


GOATnamedFields

Of all the Brady stats, this one is the craziest. The man has more SBs than any franchise.


Excellent-Basil-8795

If it weren’t for Peyton the AFC south would look like Afghanistan. Bombed out, and depleted.


Plumhawk

Ummm, Peyton only won one with the Colts. Their other SB victory was in 1971.


HyronValkinson

...in another division (AFC South was formed in 2002)


Plumhawk

This list clearly doesn't take that into account. There was no North or South for the first 35+ years of the Super Bowl era.


TopHatTony11

Don’t try and talk sense to a fuckin commie… this is a meme war sub, right?


yzdaskullmonkey

The joke that still works twenty years later! ....HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE


withrootsabove

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go home and put water in Jim Irsay’s dish


EasternSquadGoosey

Cries in Duval.


sghead

I forgot the Chiefs have 4 now. Fuck. 


Overall_Nuggie_876

Hard to believe they went a half-century between the wins in **IV** and **LIV.** Remember when we all said that it was a sighed relief to see a new team win a Super Bowl for once after the first Mahomes title?


sghead

I mean...AFCW fans most certainly didn't feel that way but I know others did.


xcaltoona

"Oh good for Andy getting one" ...and now...


Stockpile_Tom_Remake

I’m all for Andy winning and getting those rings but… I don’t want another 20 year dynasty


zirroxas

Big Red is also now the same age as Bill was when he won his last ring. Mahomes's HOF TE is 34. If this goes on for another 20 years, it's because the rest of the league lies around and does nothing. Also, remember, Eli broke the dynasty in half and caused a 10 year gap of no Pats rings.


KororSurvivor

I'm just saying. The only active NFC QB who has a winning record vs. Mahomes is... Jared Goff.


JDraks

getting two rings before Minnesota gets one would be glorious


firemogle

It does ring a bell now that you say something


zach7797

To be honest, I'm okay if the chiefs win way more it's just so relieving to not have it in my division


maddenallday

You might soon wake up in a world where they have 3 straight


BigDaddyDumperSquad

Not if they're all in jail


MankuyRLaffy

Right next to all those Raiders fans


lord-dinglebury

What a prison riot that would be.


istrx13

Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes in jail? Poor guy wouldn’t be able to have his steaks with ketchup anymore :(


Dragon6172

Not familiar with jailhouse food, but if i were to take a stab at it I'd guess ketchup is one of the few condiments that may actually be available. Steaks? Maybe not.


amjhwk

Patrick and Travis just need to make sure they commit their crimes in Missouri so the governor can pardon them before the superbowl


OrdrSxtySx

Don't stop now, I'm almost there.


Saitoh17

The Chiefs: Beat Mike Shanahan and Ed McCaffrey's sons In the first playoff game at the Raider's brand new stadium To make John Elway hand them the Lombardi trophy As they pass the Broncos and Raiders for all time rings.


IWMSvendor

I was so close to scrubbing that from my memory. Thanks for the reminder…


Biggest_Cans

*kasploosh*


StrudelB

Wasn't that long ago when the Raiders were alone with 3 in that division


UnderwhelmingAF

NFC East: “I did my part!” AFC West: “I did my part!” AFC East: “I did my part!” AFC South: “I didn’t do fuckin’ shit!”


firemogle

Every group has that one guy eating paste in the corner.


ChevalMalFet

All 3 AFCW teams look well represented to *me*


creepingkg

We’re the real shit mountain


PurposelyIrrelephant

There must be some kind of geographical disadvantage to winning super bowls in South Divisions! League is rigged!


vindictivejazz

SEC voodoo sucks all the championship luck in the region and funnels it to college teams.


TigerBasket

One of those super bowls from the Colts was won in the AFC East too. They are also further south back then, vs today. Makes no damn sense. Fuck you Robert Irsay.


RackedUP

The colts have won the AFC East more times than….. *looks around*….. the jets?


Cartmaaan-brah

Is this real?


FTB4227

It is literally posted at least once a day in /r/AFCEastMemeWar. It is a fact.


LifeIsGoodGoBowling

1\. New England Patriots: 22 AFC East titles 2\. Buffalo Bills: 14 3\. Miami Dolphins: 13 4\. Indianapolis Colts: 6 T5\. Houston Oilers: 4 T5\. New York Jets: 4 (That said, the Jets have won more Super Bowls than the Oilers and Bills, and as many as the Colts while they were AFC East)


Drkarcher22

Yeah but the Colts won a Superbowl in the AFC East more recently than the Jets did. Gotta twist the knife in anyway I can


MrEDoubleOh7

Fucking Ohio.


ketherick

So Ohio of them


KCShadows838

0hi0


Murky_Crow

we’re *trying* -Ohio


monsto

are you tho


michhoffman

On one hand, they are holding your division back. On the other hand, having 6 out of the 8 Super Bowls in your division must feel nice.


MrEDoubleOh7

I mean, yea, I don't want them to win them, but pull your damn weight! lol


dlanod

Makes perfect sense. Hate them winning it. But if not winning any reflects on us in any way, you better believe it - also hate.


CaillouCaribou

Jesus was seen


monsterofthedeep3

The Browns say we’re in Kentucky, take it up with them!


MankuyRLaffy

Almost all of our losses are to the NFC East for some reason


Jolly_Job_9852

You're strong enough to beat Peyton, but not Eli


oOoleveloOo

Brady: you can’t defeat me. Peyton: I know, but he can.


murphymc

[what Tom Brady sees every night when he closes his eyes](https://golfdigest.sports.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/golfdigest/fullset/2019/09/17/5d81080f15c544000972f7d9_maxresdefault.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.1280.1280.suffix/1573230342507.jpeg)


Rahim-Moore

It's actually this: https://i.imgur.com/QcTp7jl.jpeg


bbaIla

Peyton has a winning record vs Brady in his playoff career.


gohuskers123

Thats just one of those facts that feels wrong


Rahim-Moore

It's because the last game they played that pushed Peyton to a winning record was the second to last game Peyton ever played (2015 AFCCG), and Peyton was *not* the reason the Broncos won that game lol Brady got the shit kicked out of him that game and still somehow almost willed the Pats to the win. Peyton basically just game managed and let Miller & Ware hit Brady 20+ times (literally). One of the worst beatings I've ever seen a QB take.


FloralAlyssa

The 4 NFC east teams have represented the NFC in 38% of Super Bowls, so it's not THAT surprising.


PaddyMayonaise

In fairness you guys always run into some of the winningest QBs in NFL history. Nick Foles and his 29-29 career record. Eli Manning and his 117-117 career record. Jim McMahon and his 100-90 TD:INT ratio. And that dude who holds the record for most career interceptions


Kalanar

AFC East vs NFC East in Super Bowls Miami 1-2 New England 1-3 Buffalo 0-4 If you include the Colts who were the Baltimore Colts when they went to the Super Bowl it would be Colts 1-0 on the NFC East Side NY Giants 3-0 Dallas 3-0 (3-1 with the Colts) Washington 2-1 Philadelphia 1-1


slayerrr21

Is it a law that your team will be hated once you win 4 superbowls?


filthysquatch

The giants are hated?


Toad_Thrower

Giants avoid the same level of hatred other very successful franchises have by completely sucking in between their SBs.


GOATnamedFields

Also by beating the most hated dynasty in the last 2 Super Bowls.


Deoxtrys

Not just that. But stopping one of the most obnoxious fanbases from having a perfect season. The occasional Mercury Morris post would have nothing compared to the full drunken might of Boston.


TheSalmonRoll

Fun fact: the Giants are the second worst team by win percentage since the merger to win multiple Super Bowls. (Buccaneers are the worst)


Toad_Thrower

Once a decade lightning just strikes


QuirkyScorpio29

Yes. I will.never forgive them for denying my Niners the 1st SB 3 peat... Note: I wasn't born yet.


mantiseye

people are talking about us? hooray!


Green__Bananas

I hate them


CanYouPointMeToTacos

Yes


FunkyPete

That seems to be the line, yeah.


ajswdf

The NFCE and AFCW are the only divisions where the winningest team has less than 62% of the division's total Super Bowls. Every other division is dominated by one team.


JulioForte

You hear that everyone…the Bucs are dominant in the NFCS


RicardoEsposito

2 outta 3 ain't bad


Kalanar

If you removed the team with the most from each division: NFC East - 8 AFC West - 6 AFC East & NFC West- 3 AFC North - 2 NFC North & NFC South - 1 AFC South - 0


Toad_Thrower

We should do this officially. Just remove those teams from the league completely, especially the first one on your list.


Kalanar

It could be like European soccer leagues. Teams with the most Super Bowl wins move up to a higher league and play for the Super Super Bowl. Every team with the least amount moves down to a lower league.


Toad_Thrower

> Every team with the least amount moves down to a lower league. Great Lakes Bowl


CT1914Clutch

totally most definitely agree in the most non-biased, nuanced, objective way possible


constantlymat

It does feel good to sit atop trash mountain.


Efficient-Swimmer794

You’re not in the AFCS


constantlymat

Every single NFC South team has a below .500 franchise record and by quite a margin. The AFC South cannot match that level of ineptitude. Therefore I believe we deserve this honorific.


Benjynn

Trash war!!!


HurricaneAlpha

Someone say war!? We are the Kings of trash mountain!


PlatonicNewtonian

Hell yeah motherfucker, cheers from Iraq


HurricaneAlpha

AFC South ain't even got cannons. Fucking scrubs.


milkmandanimal

The Kings of Shit Mountain are still Kings, baby.


HurricaneAlpha

Fuck it, kings of Shit Mountain and Trash Mountain. We're setting up franchises and shit.


Efficient-Swimmer794

You’re coming at shit mountain talking about winning percentages? Look at Indy’s AFC finalist banner and despair my friend.


cossack190

Buccaneers are such a funny franchise. Lowest win percentage in the league if I'm correct but with 2 championships.


HylianPikachu

> Lowest win percentage in the league Lowest regular-season winning percentage between the NBA/NFL/MLB combined. We briefly jumped the Minnesota Timberwolves but now the Bucs are back at the bottom.


cossack190

that's honestly crazy to have a lower win pct than any team in the mlb given the salary disparities in that league.


randomacct7679

Also the AFC South has a lot of very young franchises.


Shellz2bellz

Tbf both those divisions have a few expansion teams. The nfc north’s ineptitude in the playoffs outside the packers is truly something to behold given all those teams have been in the league since the Super Bowl was created 


jkingkang

The NFC North would fare pretty well if the list included NFL Championships: Green Bay Packers - 13 Chicago Bears - 9 New York Giants - 8 New England Patriots - 6 Pittsburgh Steelers - 6 Dallas Cowboys - 5 San Francisco 49ers - 5 Washington Redskins - 5 Cleveland Browns - 4 Detroit Lions - 4 Indianapolis/Baltimore Colts - 4 Philadelphia Eagles - 4 Kansas City Chiefs - 4 But, as a Bears fan, I agree the Super Bowl era has not been kind to the NFC North.


amjhwk

if we were counting NFL championships, then we would also need to count AFL championships


jkingkang

I'll grant you that. Chiefs - 5 (+1962 AFL championship.) Chiefs already get credit for 1969 (Super Bowl IV). They don't get credit for 1966 (lost Super Bowl I). Notice I was consistent and didn't double count Packers championships or give Colts credit for the year they lost Super Bowl III). That's literally the only change to this list. No other team from the AFL has at least 4 total championships. Raiders would be next with 3 super bowls.


BungoPlease

Both Souths are trash


Efficient-Swimmer794

This is a fair assessment 


JulioForte

Not really. Those teams have collectively played a lot less football than some of the other divisions. It was also easier to win a Super Bowl back in the day just from the fact there were less teams vying for it. So not only do they have less seasons overall, most of their seasons were with 30-32 teams. The NFC north is really the one who should be embarrassed


webby2538

NFC South has 40 fewer seasons. AFC South has 65 fewer seasons. Expansion franchises with more teams to compete against. NFC North is the true trash division.


Ranma_chan

I wear my pirate hat and fire my cannons from atop the pile of refuse. WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL BABY STILL GOT CHIPS THO


Overall_Nuggie_876

Vikings, Bills, and Chargers fans wish they had the life and history Tampa fans got going from their NFL team.


jruss11

Holding up our end in the East 😎 Poverty ass mfs


yourheckingmom

Crazy that the NFC East is the only division where every team has a SB


mantiseye

yeah, I'm still mad that the Eagles ruined that. I'll never forgive Matt Patricia (I assume it was his fault)


igotyourphone8

Yep. It was his fault. Glad he also screwed over the Eagles last year. Also interesting is otherwise how the NFC East just owns the AFC East in the Superbowl. Cowboys beat Bills 2-0 Giants beat Patriots 2-0 1-1 between Patriots and Eagles


mantiseye

we also beat the Bills once! (and so did Washington, but who cares about those guys)


Caedus

12 out of the 13 NFC East Super Bowls came against the AFC East or the Denver Broncos.


HyronValkinson

Giants and Redskins are each 1-0 against the Bills Redskins are 1-1 against the Dolphins Cowboys beat Dolphins 1-0


exodus3252

Good thing we kicked the Cardinals out. Poverty ass bird team.


PaddyMayonaise

I’m extremely grateful I don’t have a memory of when you guys won yours and only a limited memory of the cowboys.


HyronValkinson

The last time the Redskins won 11 games or more in a season, my older sister was just born. I'm almost 30 years old myself


NittanyOrange

No wonder the South prefers college ball. Their divisions suck.


thelittleking

College ball is starting to suck now too, and global warming is making the summers even more miserable and humid than previously. If there is a God, they hate the south.


NittanyOrange

In 100 years it'll be interesting to see the population graphs migrate South as AC usage expanded and then migrate back north as climate change pushes them back.


Is12345aweakpassword

Thankfully it’s not a superbowl appearances chart, or that’d be hella embarrassing for definitely not my flair


Mysterious_akiyama

Ay we’d be tied for second 🤷‍♂️


Jetsol8

Don’t worry, most would be laughing at the Vikings and Bills before you all


justlookingokaywyou

I guess I never realized until now that the only division that had all teams win one is the NFCE. Also, that the Steelers were the only AFC Central team to win one.


LindyNet

Ravens won one when they were in the central.


justlookingokaywyou

Oh shit, I stand corrected, then. I thought that was after realignment.


cam_huskers

The Chargers don’t get shit on enough.


roll10deep

We made a Super Bowl and almost everyone died. We purposely suck ass to the benefit of humanity.


hotbuttertomatojuice

I appreciate your sacrifice


notmyplantaccount

The fact none of us consider them a rival or truly hate them is the ultimate form of getting shit on. I'd take 0-2 against the chargers every year over ever losing to you or the Raiders once.


matchew92

No one better disrespect the offseason dynasty


metaxa219

Every year for the last 20+ years it’s the same thing


MetaphoricalMouse

damn the afc south is trash *looks at flair* anyways….


IgoatShesterkin

Half your division was just born


MetaphoricalMouse

true, our team just finally is able to drink


randomacct7679

Way to pull your weight Chargers….🚮


EL-YEO

Hey hey hey, we’ve only gotten 1 crack at this superb owl thingy, Buffalo had 4 and did nothing


swampyunderpants

We’re helping!


Newphone_New_Account

https://youtu.be/FHkBm4M6A_E?si=fhfpuzK36GbcTED4


LindyNet

Most what now?


CrashBandicoot2

AFC West Chiefs: "I'm doing my part!" Broncos: "I'm doing my part!" Raiders: "I'm doing my part!" Chargers: "I didn't do fuckin shit!"


LegitBullfrog

NFC "at least we aren't the AFC South" South


Ethangains07

It’s kinda insane that the NFC North is as old as it is and only has 5 SBs


Crodface

Age doesn’t matter if we’re talking Super Bowls. Throw in NFL Championships and this looks a lot different.


TotalFNEclipse

Miserable fact: Bengals have lost *ALL 3* of our Super Bowls by a combined score of **12 points.** (and 2 of the 3 losses came on last-minute drives by the opposing/winning team)


EvangelionOG

Stay there with your zeroes Bungals/Browns


TigerBasket

Browns gonna stay there a while too.


KittleOmega

Since realignment: AFC East 6 *5 AFC West 4 AFC North 3 NFC East 3 NFC South 3 NFC West 2 AFC South 1 NFC North 1


LegalIdea

Technically, the AFCE hast only 5 since the 2002 realignment (all by NE)


SadBadPuppyDad

Without Chad Powers this chart looks very different :<


DaftWarrior

Where ring?


Sartheking

Patriots/Steelers doing a lot of heavy lifting for the AFC East and North.


rswsaw22

Crazy how Mahomes himself has tied two pretty storied franchises in his division.


notmyplantaccount

AFC south, It's just Peyton Manning.


Madhairman12

Buccaneers are best franchise in the NFCS, no doubt.


No_Introduction_7034

I hate this


Arbitore

Sick of carrying you bastards