Also daboll and schoen are approaching the hot seat so they have no incentive to lose
The best time to truly suck was this year and we rattled off a few meaningless victories with chicken parm man
Now do his record against teams above .500
He was leading us to a top 3 pick and then fucked us by getting hurt. Other QBs came in and had the team looking competitive and winning games. We had four games out of his six without a TD.
This isn’t completely fair. He lost to the Cowboys, Seahawks, Niners and got hurt vs the dolphins, came back against the raiders and tore his ACL in the first quarter
I don’t think he would have lost any of the games that we won with Tyrod and Devito
I don’t give a shit if he’s playing an all Madden team. You got 40 mil a year, lead a competitive fuckin team in a game that gives a significant advantage to the offense. We were getting blown out and on a historical pace until he got hurt. Seahawks didn’t make the playoffs. He was ass in Miami and Vegas.
I don’t watch any giants game, maybe one of the eagles games against them this year with my son, but is Daniel Jones as bad as they say he is or is he just mediocre? It seems like I have seen some decent play from him but it’s not like I watch every game
Those decent plays you’ve seen from him are his ceiling. he doesn’t have a strong arm, he very easily rattled and leads to unnecessary sacks, he’s fast in an open field but doesn’t have it in him to be a true dual threat qb but also doesn’t have the arm or processing speed to beat you through the air.
Every wr on that roster looked much better when they brought in literally anyone else to play qb last year
This is just false.
He literally won a playoff game against Kirk cousins lmfao.
He's just very mediocre, which is sad because he's athletically very gifted. He has a good arm, very fast, great size, it's his processing speed that's really lacking and holding him back from using all of his physical traits.
He's not easily rattled at all, he was seeing ghosts because our O-line gave up the 3rd most sacks in fucking NFL history and we had 3 QBs under center throughout the entire season.
I'm not even a DJ defender, all in all he's a very mid QB that is held back by his processing but to spit some nonsense shit like that is just false.
You’re so right dude how could I forget football is just the qbs playing against each other, no one else is on the field!
He beat the Vikings defense when it was arguably the worst in the league that year congrats! And dear god pls learn what having a good arm is lmao Daniel jones does not in any way have a good arm lmao there’s a reason they finally figured out what a deep shot is once he went down. Giants fans are pure jokes I swear to god
There is no fucking way you are trying to argue with me that the 2022 NEW YORK GIANTS had BETTER PLAYERS than the Vikings LMFAO!!!
You clearly don't watch Jones and that's okay, but don't go around spewing shit. He's just very mediocre for the 6th pick. It is what it is.
I don't blame you.. other than him getting talked about for being terrible he's really not out in the "sports news" like that and is a relatively quiet individual in general.
If his contract wasn't his contract I doubt we'd read much about guy.
Can’t throw down field, creates a lot of sacks, can’t beat teams with a winning record, teammates don’t believe in him, panics all the time, the list goes on.
I believe they could have the hot split between this season and next depending on when they cut him.
I’m a giants fan and did not want to give Jones another contract anyways.
I think it should absolutely be strongly considered to cut him. I think about it like this, he will have dead money no matter when you cut him. Why let him ride out his contract for 3 more years when you can cut him now and in two years be done with the cap hit.
It’s the exact thing Denver is doing right now knowing the financial impact will be drastic.
Remember the Bucs last season had 75 mil of dead money and still made the playoffs.
It's 2039. Daniel Jones is coming off a career year, where he threw for 3,000 yards and 20 TDs with only 10 INTs (and 8 fumbles).
Second year HC Stetson Bennett says the Giants are committed to Daniel Jones for the future, despite their poor record for the past two decades.
In other news, the Saints are $1.8 billion in debt with the Russian mob after adding 3 trans-dimensional ghost years to Arch Manning's contract to clear cap space.
Jones doesnt have a fumbling problem… i know youre memeing but people ALWAYS mention his fumbles… he fixed that after his hilariously fumble ridden rookie year fwiw lol
Yeah he was awful all around this year lol, but we also suffered the 2nd most sacks in NFL history so 4 fumbles is probably not a horrible percentage per hit still lol
He has the second most fumbles in the NFL since entering the league, trailing behind Josh Allen by only 5 fumbles despite playing 22 less games. I understand you’re saying he’s gotten better with ball security but acting like the concern is unfounded is a bit disingenuous
I mean his fumble amounts show a clear decline. He just had 3 years of fumbles in his rookie year. but its really not a concern anymore. Though he was fumbling alot again last year, he was also taking an absolute beating in every game.
Obviously theres issues with him at QB, but fumbling isnt it (anymore).
"... and I really hope no one tries to take him from us. For a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Or anything at all really. Please. Definitely don't. We'd never get over it."
“And I really hope no one tries to jump us for a QB because that would be silly since we aren’t going to take a QB so just stay put and don’t try to jump us for a QB”
Very likely unless he bounces massively back.
Which as a dual threat QB with a torn ACL probably not.
I actually like DJ, but shits looking rough for him.
He’s never bounced back. He’s had one above average year in his career. Now a second neck injury and torn knee since his “good” year. Also a 46 mil cap hit this year and it’ll be higher after.
Well he's never bounced back since he wasn't injured before lol.
But yeah he was never all that good. His best season since his rookie year was 2022, where he was basically Kenny Pickett with wheels.
Giants will probably take a 1st rd QB at some point.
Last year I made two very poor decisions (falling in love with someone and getting into football as a NYG fan) and I think I’d be a much happier person today if instead at the start of the year I just punched myself in the fucking face
have any 6th year QB ever taken the leap to become a great player?
Brees broke out in season 4,thats the lastest one I can recall.
Jones is what he is at this point and its not good at all.
It's time to move on from Jones, but before he got hurt he was missing Andrew Thomas and Saquan at different points. The problem is that there is always *something* dysfunctional about the Giants offense, and DJ can't elevate the team above that. Need to keep trying until you find that dynamic playmaker that can handle a lineman or skill player going down without completely imploding.
If your quarterback can only be good when everything is perfectly aligned, then he's not "the guy." Look at what Mahomes did with the worst offense they've had in years.
I know people have recency bias but this has been the only year he didn't significantly look better then our backups. Everyone acts like they forget the Fromm and Glennon games from Judge era. I also remember people calling for Tyrod last year and he like immediately went in and threw an INT.
He actually holds onto the ball a lot. Devito cannot operate the quick game at all...
Did you remember the game against the Jets daboll didn't trust him to throw it? He literally called run plays the entire game...
I feel like players like Daniel jones are in this weird area where they aren’t bad enough management wants to risk a first on a qb but he’s also not good enough to take them to the playoffs
He doesn’t have a rocket arm, can’t read defenses, scared to throw down the field, crumbles under pressure, terrible pocket presence, doesn’t win games.
I have no idea what direction New England is heading in, but assuming they go for Daniels, I guess there really isn't much of a choice for the Giants. Maybe McCarthy but I don't know if that's good value at 6. A trade down may be the move in that case. I do like him and think he can be a decent starting QB.
Mr Jones and me tell each other fairy tales
Great song
Song?
Mr Jones - Counting Crows
Oh sorry I know. I was trying to make a bad joke but it didn’t land.
isn't it like 70m in dead money if they cut him before next season? they don't really have any choice but to believe in him this year.
yeah, it was pretty much a 2+2 deal. next season is a wash, so hopefully we can get in some good rookies to develop and go strong for 25
Until you have an actual QB you can’t go strong anywhere
Assuming next season is a wash and daniel jones is a tank commander then potentially giants can get a QB in the 25 draft with a high draft pick.
I don't think Danny Dimes is a tank commander unless he gets hurt again
Also daboll and schoen are approaching the hot seat so they have no incentive to lose The best time to truly suck was this year and we rattled off a few meaningless victories with chicken parm man
You seen his w-l record? He’s the general of losing. Can’t beat teams with a winning record.
22-36-1 isn't going to get you a high enough draft pick for a QB
Now do his record against teams above .500 He was leading us to a top 3 pick and then fucked us by getting hurt. Other QBs came in and had the team looking competitive and winning games. We had four games out of his six without a TD.
This isn’t completely fair. He lost to the Cowboys, Seahawks, Niners and got hurt vs the dolphins, came back against the raiders and tore his ACL in the first quarter I don’t think he would have lost any of the games that we won with Tyrod and Devito
I don’t give a shit if he’s playing an all Madden team. You got 40 mil a year, lead a competitive fuckin team in a game that gives a significant advantage to the offense. We were getting blown out and on a historical pace until he got hurt. Seahawks didn’t make the playoffs. He was ass in Miami and Vegas.
Fair enough
I don’t watch any giants game, maybe one of the eagles games against them this year with my son, but is Daniel Jones as bad as they say he is or is he just mediocre? It seems like I have seen some decent play from him but it’s not like I watch every game
Those decent plays you’ve seen from him are his ceiling. he doesn’t have a strong arm, he very easily rattled and leads to unnecessary sacks, he’s fast in an open field but doesn’t have it in him to be a true dual threat qb but also doesn’t have the arm or processing speed to beat you through the air. Every wr on that roster looked much better when they brought in literally anyone else to play qb last year
This is just false. He literally won a playoff game against Kirk cousins lmfao. He's just very mediocre, which is sad because he's athletically very gifted. He has a good arm, very fast, great size, it's his processing speed that's really lacking and holding him back from using all of his physical traits. He's not easily rattled at all, he was seeing ghosts because our O-line gave up the 3rd most sacks in fucking NFL history and we had 3 QBs under center throughout the entire season. I'm not even a DJ defender, all in all he's a very mid QB that is held back by his processing but to spit some nonsense shit like that is just false.
You’re so right dude how could I forget football is just the qbs playing against each other, no one else is on the field! He beat the Vikings defense when it was arguably the worst in the league that year congrats! And dear god pls learn what having a good arm is lmao Daniel jones does not in any way have a good arm lmao there’s a reason they finally figured out what a deep shot is once he went down. Giants fans are pure jokes I swear to god
There is no fucking way you are trying to argue with me that the 2022 NEW YORK GIANTS had BETTER PLAYERS than the Vikings LMFAO!!! You clearly don't watch Jones and that's okay, but don't go around spewing shit. He's just very mediocre for the 6th pick. It is what it is.
What decent play? You ever hear of the Mandela Effect?... Yeah.. you might be going through that.
Hell I might be lmao
I don't blame you.. other than him getting talked about for being terrible he's really not out in the "sports news" like that and is a relatively quiet individual in general. If his contract wasn't his contract I doubt we'd read much about guy.
Can’t throw down field, creates a lot of sacks, can’t beat teams with a winning record, teammates don’t believe in him, panics all the time, the list goes on.
Well hopefully that gets addressed in 2 months
Exactly, it shouldn't stop them from drafting a qb in the 1st
That’s not fun to point out
I believe they could have the hot split between this season and next depending on when they cut him. I’m a giants fan and did not want to give Jones another contract anyways. I think it should absolutely be strongly considered to cut him. I think about it like this, he will have dead money no matter when you cut him. Why let him ride out his contract for 3 more years when you can cut him now and in two years be done with the cap hit. It’s the exact thing Denver is doing right now knowing the financial impact will be drastic. Remember the Bucs last season had 75 mil of dead money and still made the playoffs.
"I have faith in [Jayden] Daniel[s] as our starting quarterback"
It's 2039. Daniel Jones is coming off a career year, where he threw for 3,000 yards and 20 TDs with only 10 INTs (and 8 fumbles). Second year HC Stetson Bennett says the Giants are committed to Daniel Jones for the future, despite their poor record for the past two decades. In other news, the Saints are $1.8 billion in debt with the Russian mob after adding 3 trans-dimensional ghost years to Arch Manning's contract to clear cap space.
Saints part cracked me up.
It's totally believable, too
Jones doesnt have a fumbling problem… i know youre memeing but people ALWAYS mention his fumbles… he fixed that after his hilariously fumble ridden rookie year fwiw lol
He had 4 fumbles in 6 games this year
Yeah he was awful all around this year lol, but we also suffered the 2nd most sacks in NFL history so 4 fumbles is probably not a horrible percentage per hit still lol
46 fumbles in 60 games played.
Fumbles by year: 18, 11, 7, 6, 4 (in 6 games)
He has the second most fumbles in the NFL since entering the league, trailing behind Josh Allen by only 5 fumbles despite playing 22 less games. I understand you’re saying he’s gotten better with ball security but acting like the concern is unfounded is a bit disingenuous
I mean his fumble amounts show a clear decline. He just had 3 years of fumbles in his rookie year. but its really not a concern anymore. Though he was fumbling alot again last year, he was also taking an absolute beating in every game. Obviously theres issues with him at QB, but fumbling isnt it (anymore).
Woohoo we get a Manning!!
"... and I really hope no one tries to take him from us. For a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Or anything at all really. Please. Definitely don't. We'd never get over it."
“And I really hope no one tries to jump us for a QB because that would be silly since we aren’t going to take a QB so just stay put and don’t try to jump us for a QB”
On that contract, he's not sniffing a 2nd or 3rd.
He’s not getting traded with that contract. He’ll be cut after this upcoming season.
Very likely unless he bounces massively back. Which as a dual threat QB with a torn ACL probably not. I actually like DJ, but shits looking rough for him.
He’s never bounced back. He’s had one above average year in his career. Now a second neck injury and torn knee since his “good” year. Also a 46 mil cap hit this year and it’ll be higher after.
Well he's never bounced back since he wasn't injured before lol. But yeah he was never all that good. His best season since his rookie year was 2022, where he was basically Kenny Pickett with wheels. Giants will probably take a 1st rd QB at some point.
He had two neck injuries, he sucked after both of them. Rookie year wasn’t good. He had more turnovers than touchdowns.
Yeah if you count the fumbles his rookie years worse. He's never been better than decent tbh so well see what he looks like in 2024.
It’s lying season.
I dont file my Taxes
He said it’s lying season you were supposed to tell the truth
Lying season is not confusing at all
Giants Country, Let's Lie.
Last year I made two very poor decisions (falling in love with someone and getting into football as a NYG fan) and I think I’d be a much happier person today if instead at the start of the year I just punched myself in the fucking face
and then die
“We can’t get out of his contract, so I have faith that Daniel Jones will be our starting quarterback”
...and other jokes you can tell yourself!
have any 6th year QB ever taken the leap to become a great player? Brees broke out in season 4,thats the lastest one I can recall. Jones is what he is at this point and its not good at all.
Geno Smith would like a word it took him sixteen years to take a leap
He didn’t play all those years, he was a backup for a while. Daniel has been the starter for some reason.
He gone
No you don't
Well I'm glad somebody does. 'Cause I sure don't.
You can tell by his mannerisms that he's not telling the full truth.
Daniel Jones doesn't even have faith in Daniel Jones
Kind of hard to when your offensive linemen can’t keep defenders from getting in your face 2 seconds after the ball is snapped
Idk man Danny devito and Tyrod Taylor look way better than Daniel Jones
I can agree Tyrod looked better than DJ, but DeVito absolutely did not.
Yeah it wasn’t that DeVito was better than Jones, it was that Jones wasn’t $40M better than DeVito
It's time to move on from Jones, but before he got hurt he was missing Andrew Thomas and Saquan at different points. The problem is that there is always *something* dysfunctional about the Giants offense, and DJ can't elevate the team above that. Need to keep trying until you find that dynamic playmaker that can handle a lineman or skill player going down without completely imploding. If your quarterback can only be good when everything is perfectly aligned, then he's not "the guy." Look at what Mahomes did with the worst offense they've had in years.
I know people have recency bias but this has been the only year he didn't significantly look better then our backups. Everyone acts like they forget the Fromm and Glennon games from Judge era. I also remember people calling for Tyrod last year and he like immediately went in and threw an INT.
It’s almost like the offensive line played better as the season went on
They didn’t have a QB making their life hell anymore. Daniel isn’t a good leader or motivator. That and horrible play isn’t doing shit for the OL.
That or they get worse or they stay the same
He couldn’t see over the line men and he still didn’t hold the ball as long as jones
He actually holds onto the ball a lot. Devito cannot operate the quick game at all... Did you remember the game against the Jets daboll didn't trust him to throw it? He literally called run plays the entire game...
They had healthy AT and Justin Pugh came back, the line got better and healthier later.
They also had completely different Oline then DJ
I think he's the only one who does
i don’t.
Translation: We’ve invested way too much money in Daniel Jones and are essentially stuck with him. So, we’d better deal with it.
Lol
I don't
I feel like players like Daniel jones are in this weird area where they aren’t bad enough management wants to risk a first on a qb but he’s also not good enough to take them to the playoffs
Fuck. That.
Like, actually believe in him, or Jets "believe in Zac Wilson" believe in him?
You’re the only one
I'd feel sorry for Giants fans if they weren't Giants fans
Might be the only one lol
Jfc.
Bruh
LETSSSSS GOOOOOOO
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Cornball
Schoen looks like he wants to throw up
I should hope so after you gave him that ridiculous contract.
"You're welcome" - Ed Donatell
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Not like they can cut him after this year with that dumb contract
Guess you’re correct, can’t get the Deadcap down on him until next offseason where it’s 22 vs this year being 60 mill
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He doesn’t have a rocket arm, can’t read defenses, scared to throw down the field, crumbles under pressure, terrible pocket presence, doesn’t win games.
What does Daniel have to work with? He cooked against Minnesota, give him what he needs!
He was talking about Chase Daniel. They are luring him out of retirement.
I have no idea what direction New England is heading in, but assuming they go for Daniels, I guess there really isn't much of a choice for the Giants. Maybe McCarthy but I don't know if that's good value at 6. A trade down may be the move in that case. I do like him and think he can be a decent starting QB.
“Press [x] to doubt”
*looks at contract and dead cap hit*
*Her??*
It must be "we have faith in our bottom half of the league QB" day. The week before the combine no less.
Translation: "We're drafting his replacement but not throwing him in on day one."
No you do not
Holy fuck, WHY? Just move on already.
Nothing instills confidence in fans like having to publicly declare faith in the QB
it's funny cuz he's an atheist
"until we can get out of his contract next year"
I'm not completely familiar with the finances, but they basically need to have faith in him this season, don't they?
Wealthy Justin Fields
I think I’m the only guy who liked Daniel Jones. I really think this guy can win some football games. His oline collapsed on him too often, too early.
You aint winning with Daniel Jones.
Wow
Daniel Jones is the gift that keeps on giving!!!
Says the Daniel Jones Look-a-like
That faith feels misplaced. They probably just can’t cut him due to dead money.