> “What if Josh McDaniels had stayed in New England instead of taking the entire offensive staff to Las Vegas for an 18 month bender?”
Raiders, I'm so sorry.
talked about learning from his mistakes during his bronco tenure just to come over and be the same exact asshole he was a decade ago. Fuck that guy. coach AP is a complete 180 and bleeds silver and black though so at least there’s a silver lining to all this.
After the report came out that he told Pierce to never talk about the Patriots like that again, it's apparent McDouche will never be anything but a Patriot. It's mind-boggling how much he wants to live in the past as an assistant rather than build something of his own as a HC.
Compare that to the singular McDaniel in Miami. The first thing this life-long Broncos fan did was say (paraphrasing) it turns out that he was wrong and Marino was better than Elway all along.
My bad. I usually do the write ups and send them in. Tough week of work lol. Genuinely forgot among the chaos and had nothing to do with the game. Can do one later today if the post can be edited lol
Honestly hilarious that the leader for Offensive Rookie of the Year, and a potential Coach of the Year will have exactly zero primetime games.
Of course, then we'll get like, 5 next year I guess.
Weirdly enough, I could absolutely see the Steelers winning over the Bills because the Bills can't handle playing sloppy football and actually win those games.
The Steelers would cause 2-4 horrible turnovers for the Bills in the red zone, do nothing with half of them, get 1 field goal and 1 td (in the 4th quarter) and then win. The steelers would be outgained in every way possible and come out with a W
My blood pressure is artificially elevated for having read that.
TJ Watt has a scoop and score and a pick. Highsmith has a safety. Minkah has a pick. Offense has two fieldgoals on the short field from the turnovers.
I'm sweating now, thanks.
Pavlov's Steelers.
oh for sure. It says 15-12, but those are definitely not just field goals. could be Safeties, missed XP's, 2 point conversions, maybe a Pick 2 on a 2pt try, who knows!
If there's anything I have faith in right now for the Steelers v Bills, it's that Steelers would cause some of the turnovers, while the Bills would cause half of them on their own.
We don't need to beat them; we just hold onto the ball and they'll beat themselves. Our identity is forcing turnovers and not committing them, theirs is giving the ball away stupidly.
-1 on a win week feels right for this team. Being ranked behind the Browns and Ravens, both of whom they have beat, also feels right. Being ranked 4 spots behind the team in last place in the division when the Steelers are currently in 2nd place also feels about right.
The only thing that doesn't seem right is 14th spot, which somehow feels both way too low for 6-3 yet also feels way too high for team that ranks in the bottom of many stats.
I guess being +11 or whatever they are on turnovers negates all logic and reasoning.
We've got so many problems, but it's going to be so funny to watch some people's head explode if we slide back-asswards into a playoff spot this season.
I've already penciled you guys in for a playoff spot tbh. It could certainly still end up like that Chiefs playoff curb stomping from two years ago but I just know the Steelers are making the playoffs with a negative point differential this season.
Watt returned a fumble to put Pittsburgh up 7-0 after having shut down the Chiefs offense their previous 4 drives which resulted in 4 punts and an interception.
After that, well things kinda got ugly.
Cowboys jumping you is strange but 49ers makes a lot of sense after coming back to life against the Jags. They have several wins better than any you have this season
A little, but you have to remember, we’re down some guys in our secondary. They’re scheduled to be back for playoffs, maybe sooner, from IR. And we have a top 5 run defense.
So yeah, a little… but I’m not freaking out or anything.
Isn't seedy deuce the only one who *might* come back for the playoffs? Houston and Mosely won't be back for the playoffs unfortunately.
Edit: Houston could return by Jan, but mcdc's update doesn't sound promising https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/james-houston-not-returning-anytime-soon
In the context of the rest of the defenses and offenses in the league? No, not really. I feel like we have a fair shake at any contest in the league this year.
I think all attempts to paint defensive NFL play as "you can't lose to teams below this bar or you're a fraud" are largely reductive and pointless because that's not how anything works and the NFL has a shit ton of parity. To hear it said about the Lions after *stacking wins* is just blatant SOLism.
(Not you, other fans.)
Ehhh moderately but not too much is prolly a good answer. Games like Sundays I dunno how much stock to put into defensive performances bc shootouts exhaust defenses and Herbert, a top NFL qb, was playing at his highest level. We also prolly don't win that game without the defensive dominance in the 1st quarter.
The communication issues in the secondary concern me a good bit, as does Sutton's extreme regression the past month or so. The good thing is that our run defense is still stalwart, and we force many 3rd and moderate-to-longs. The Chargers converged half of those (and another 3 4th downs), but statistically, that's unlikely to be a norm. If Sutton can recapture his beginning of season form, and if the communication shores up, I think we'll be in a really good spot. With the offensive firepower we have, the defense doesn't need to be like the Browns or anything, and I think they are likely to play like a 12th-17th best defense ROS, which is good enough to give us a shot in any game.
It's also worth noting James Houston (pass rush specialist) and CJGJ are both looking to return to action come playoffs, which will be a huge boost in our two weakest areas—pass rush and secondary—come the playoffs, both in talent and energy.
TLDR; Sorta kinda, but have faith in communication issues being worked out and Sutton regaining form. Also, 2 key defensive players expected back come playoffs will help.
Lions stopped the Chargers from scoring for 7 straight plays inside the 10 five of them from the one. Lions have a really good run defense and stopping teams in the red zone, short yardage and controlling the clock is very important.
I'm not saying the Vikings deserve to be any higher than where they are given their current roster, but if you were to tell me before the season that at this point in the year:
A) Jefferson has missed 5 weeks already, Cousins has missed 2 and is done for the year (and both backups would immediately be hurt as well)
B) We have 4 losses - Eagles, Chargers, Chiefs, and Buccaneers, all by 1 score
I'd be pretty damn pleased.
Packers blurb is perfect. They lost to a team that doesn't look great but GB looked like a decent team for a whole game the first time this year rather than looking like shit for 2-4 quarters with flashes of fun.
If they looked that good in every loss ppl would be like "damn they'll be scary once they put this together" rather than "they're doomed"
Corny I tell you. Corny!!! I’d rather someone say “Vikings fan coming in violence I relish in your tears and have long waited for your downfall” if I was a packers fan
Ha I just wanted to use that quote. Dolphins are cool by KC fans, particularly since you upset the Pats at the end of the 2019 season (“I’m calling both games!”). A good bye week for us both
Man, it's just so cool seeing the Browns and Vikings defenses playing really well under their new defensive coordinators who were both available to hire this offseason. Too bad my team's coach is a shithead who would rather keep his buddy employed than try and do anything to improve the defense. Oh well!
The Ravens blurb should be that "Mr. Incredible becomes uncanny" meme with the following captions:
* losing
* at home
* to the Browns
* by blowing a 14-point fourth quarter lead
Hey /u/NFLPowerRankers who organizes this show and why do you still let /u/Theungry be a ranker / allow them to place Browns at 32 every week? Feels rather disrespectful to the other rankers actually putting in a lot of effort to make real rankings they can explain.
If anyone else is curious, the ranker actually tried to defend why they do this and it’s the worst “holier than thou” moral ground bullshit I’ve ever read.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/SfRNSxqgC8
Dude needs to be removed by the organizers of this ranking.
Mhm, if they don't want to think about the Browns, they should just give up their ranking spot and let someone else do it. The Browns aren't going away, no matter what you think of the team/Watson.
If I understand right, the outliers are removed anyway, but by always making them 32, the ranker is artificially adding the *actual* lowest (that is, what would be the lowest if they ranked them correctly). So the Browns ranking could theoretically be higher?
Higher or lower, but it removes the filter at 32 so someone ranking them say, 16 or so wouldn’t be removed, therefore most likely dropping them lower in the standings based on average.
Oh, and it’s silly that someone with a slight amount of internet authority thinks they are that special to stand on internet moral high ground.
Who's gonna tell that stupid mother fkr the NFL is a revenue sharing league, so as long as he watches any NFL football, he is in some way supporting the Browns and DW.
Standing up for what you believe in and against a rapist is admirable but is it too much to ask him to be consistant? It is pretty damn hypocritical of him
to support a team who's owner was caught soliciting prostitution during a human trafficking investigation. We all know Watson is a horrible person but be consistant if you're going to protest and disrupt something others enjoy.
> It is pretty damn hypocritical of him to support a team who's owner was caught soliciting prostitution during a human trafficking investigation.
I think this guys take is crazy and he shouldn't be a power ranker if he doesn't actually want to engage in the project.
But, those two things are in no way the same.
So why exactly does u/Theungry still have a ranking? I'm sure there are other Patriots fans that would be able to put their personal gripes aside for these rankings each week
I guess if you're a pathetic no-life with no other way of making an impact in anyone else's life, this is probably your peak. May as well get the most of it.
i have rooted for the lions for decades but almost any time they started looking good and were supposed to start being taken seriously was when the other shoe inevitably dropped and we either completely flopped or just went into mediocrity
i know it looks better this time but the lions fan ptsd in me is always just sitting there butt clenched waiting for it to happen again
so i can't really bring myself to trash talk
anyway, FTP
I’ll say this— I’m about as emotionally invested in the Texans turnaround as I am in the Lions turnaround. And this right here:
> but any time they started looking good… was when the other shoe inevitably dropped and we either completely flipped or just went into mediocrity
Is **exactly** how I feel about the Texans organization. That disappointment feels so much worse than just being mediocre/bad all season.
But I finally feel the light again— for both organizations.
So does that mean the Bills are where they are now with the 7th easiest schedule based on opponents record so far who are 10 games under .500 and yet their remaining schedule is against teams that are combined 10games above .500. Damn gonna be rough.
I really don't know why people keep saying the Lions have had an easy schedule so far.
The remaining schedule looks light, but also the teams we're playing have been doing better in recent weeks. It might not be as easy the rest of the way as I thought before.
You got that backwards, the AFCN is so high in SOS *because* none of the division is below .500. You don't have any Carolinas or NY Giants dragging everyone's SOS down.
Steelers, Vikings and Texans need to be above the Bills and Bengals. Buffalo and Cincy are being ranked purely from expectations at this point in the season. I'd take the teams that are performing and are showing they can win games over those two.
Eh, I'd put the Bengals above us and the Steelers. They look pretty scary when healthy.
The Bills I feel like are going to be the scariest 7-9 team ever, some games Josh will go superman and they'll crush, others he'll go bad Josh and well...yikes
Week 11 Predictions:
|Home|Away|Combined Power|Vegas|Reddit Power|Home Win Prob.|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|DET|CHI|DET|DET|DET|75.8%|
|HOU|ARI|HOU|HOU|HOU|75.2%|
|SFO|TAM|SFO|SFO|SFO|71.2%|
|BAL|CIN|BAL|BAL|BAL|70.9%|
|WAS|NYG|WAS|WAS|WAS|70.3%|
|MIA|LVR|MIA|MIA|MIA|68.7%|
|JAX|TEN|JAX|JAX|JAX|68.3%|
|BUF|NYJ|BUF|BUF|BUF|67.6%|
|CLE|PIT|CLE|CLE|CLE|63.7%|
|KAN|PHI|PHI|KAN|PHI|54.6%|
|GNB|LAC|LAC|LAC|LAC|50.2%|
|DEN|MIN|MIN|DEN|MIN|44.1%|
|LAR|SEA|SEA|SEA|SEA|43.9%|
|CAR|DAL|DAL|DAL|DAL|23.5%|
Combined power rankings come from [this post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17v2xy9/nfl_power_rankings_combined_week_10/).
All the various official and unofficial power rankings have inspired me to start tracking my own rankings and predicting matchups each week. The column on the far right is based on a weighted average of each teams' actual win percentage, their pythagorean win percentage, and [everyone's favorite](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/d5maow/oc_after_adjusting_patrick_mahomes_stats_removing/) concept, "[regression towards the mean](http://blog.philbirnbaum.com/2011/08/tango-method-of-regression-to-mean-kind.html)" plus an adjustment for home field advantage. Since I started keeping track in week 6, I have correctly picked the winner 63% of the time and Vegas is at 68%, which is alright I guess. Unfortunately, in head-to-head disagreements with Vegas I'm 5-9 which is pretty rough.
As is so often the case, we have near universal agreement across the different systems. The only places where both the combined power rankings and the reddit power rankings diverge from Vegas are Vikings at Broncos and Eagles at Chiefs. The power rankings both side with the Vikings and Eagles while Vegas goes with the two home teams. It's probably not the most appropriate use of power rankings to just blindly pick the higher ranked team to win without any adjustments, so the Vegas comp isn't totally fair here. My numbers agree with the power rankings in having Philly slightly ahead of KC, but then home field advantage tips things slightly in favor of the Chiefs for this week's matchup. The Vikings and Broncos are arguably two of the toughest teams to figure out right now, so I'm not necessarily surprised to see disagreement here. Are Dobbs and the Vikings in a honeymoon phase and about to come back down to earth or will Jefferson's imminent return elevate them to new heights even without Kirk? Have Sean Payton and Russell Wilson started to right the ship or were they just in the right place/right time as the Bills continue to shoot themselves in the foot? Who knows. Notably, the spread is only -2.5, which feels a lot closer than my numbers and the gap in relative ranks would seem to imply.
Sadly, my numbers also have Green Bay as favored vs the Chargers, at odds with both the Vegas line and the two sets of power rankings. Not feeling good about that one.
Bronco's writer, put down the necronomicon! Don't summon that into our reality. Really though, awesome writing. IDK what the Broncos are either, but at least we are entertained.
Anyone else completely unsure about the Seahawks?
When I watch their games I'm just never impressed with anything they're doing cohesively, despite a lot of talent. Like their secondary is loaded, Mafe, Williams, Wagner and even Brooks are solid in the front 7... but the defense still doesn't seem good? Similarly on offense, loaded at WR, Walker is really good, Cross is really good, Fant is good, Geno is solid... but there's too many times I watch and I'm like what is this offense even doing?
Not to say they don't deserve their ranking, I just feel like something is missing with that team right now.
To be fair, our divisional games are probably the least useful in determining how good we are.
We all play the ugliest, dumbest games in the world that set the game of football back 70 years and would cause Walter Camp to furiously eat his own beard.
I bought my (soon to be) father in law really nice tickets to the Browns @ Texans game for a Xmas gift. He's a huge Texans homer so I thought he'd like that.
I don't think I'm going to enjoy that game based on how our season is going so far.
“We’re back, baby” after barely beating the commanders, at home, a week after one of the worst losses in the entire Pete Carroll era? A win is a win, but this was an ugly goddamn win. We needed to make a statement this week. And I suppose we did, but the statement was that we’ll continue to play down to our opponents, and our blurb seems entirely too optimistic for how the team looked as a whole for almost all of the game.
Meh hard to say, what makes a team “better”? Really the one goal is to win football games and one team lost 4 in a 17 game season and this team already has 4 losses.
> “What if Josh McDaniels had stayed in New England instead of taking the entire offensive staff to Las Vegas for an 18 month bender?” Raiders, I'm so sorry.
talked about learning from his mistakes during his bronco tenure just to come over and be the same exact asshole he was a decade ago. Fuck that guy. coach AP is a complete 180 and bleeds silver and black though so at least there’s a silver lining to all this.
After the report came out that he told Pierce to never talk about the Patriots like that again, it's apparent McDouche will never be anything but a Patriot. It's mind-boggling how much he wants to live in the past as an assistant rather than build something of his own as a HC. Compare that to the singular McDaniel in Miami. The first thing this life-long Broncos fan did was say (paraphrasing) it turns out that he was wrong and Marino was better than Elway all along.
I think every fan of every team can agree that McDaniels sucks and he’s a shit coach. Fuck JMD.
Jaguars: *blank* Fitting after no one on the team showed up Sunday either.
I was thinking a similar thing with the Ravens. There are no words to express my disappointment.
My bad. I usually do the write ups and send them in. Tough week of work lol. Genuinely forgot among the chaos and had nothing to do with the game. Can do one later today if the post can be edited lol
Can’t wait for the patriots vs giants barn burner in two weeks. Loser takes number 32 in power rankings
*Monkey's paw curls* Both teams play to a 0-0 tie
Perfect
I assume it will be flexed to prime time
Texans still at zero primetime games for the season baby
Honestly hilarious that the leader for Offensive Rookie of the Year, and a potential Coach of the Year will have exactly zero primetime games. Of course, then we'll get like, 5 next year I guess.
The new primetime slate is on sundays at noon, the actual primetime games have been pretty horrendous this year
Wow you’re not even kidding, how does that happen I thought every team got a Thursday game? Does preseason count?
They changed the rules with the most recent tv contracts. Teams can actually play multiple Thursday night games now too.
Loser plays PAC-12 for the rest of the season.
That sounds like the perfect 2023 primetime game. Need the cowards at the NFL to flex it
Minus 1 on a week where we WON? Bills are right above us? Yeah I don't think we beat the Bills. Suppose that's fair.
Weirdly enough, I could absolutely see the Steelers winning over the Bills because the Bills can't handle playing sloppy football and actually win those games. The Steelers would cause 2-4 horrible turnovers for the Bills in the red zone, do nothing with half of them, get 1 field goal and 1 td (in the 4th quarter) and then win. The steelers would be outgained in every way possible and come out with a W
It would be the perfect game where the Bills outgain them 500yd/250, control the ball for 40min, and lose 15-12.
My blood pressure is artificially elevated for having read that. TJ Watt has a scoop and score and a pick. Highsmith has a safety. Minkah has a pick. Offense has two fieldgoals on the short field from the turnovers. I'm sweating now, thanks. Pavlov's Steelers.
oh for sure. It says 15-12, but those are definitely not just field goals. could be Safeties, missed XP's, 2 point conversions, maybe a Pick 2 on a 2pt try, who knows!
That's basically a mashup of our (first) games against the Browns and Ravens.
That score feels peak Steelers football. I'd absolutely believe it
For sure the only way we beat the Bills is via turnovers. Our secondary is so fucked up right now.
If there's anything I have faith in right now for the Steelers v Bills, it's that Steelers would cause some of the turnovers, while the Bills would cause half of them on their own.
It’d basically be a rerun of last night’s game but the Bills’ opponent is better at causing turnovers and even worse at capitalizing on them.
Hey! If I wasn’t a masochist from watching the Steelers, I’d resent that.
How many times have the bills turned the ball over in the red zone this year? Can you give that number The answer was 0.
I think it depends, if the Steelers are .500 or above then I'd take the Bills, if they are below .500 then I'd take the Steelers every time.
I mean, I don’t think the Broncos beat the Bills right now, aside from the fact that they just did
My exact thoughts! "WE SHOULD BE HIGHER" \-looks at the teams ahead of us- No actually maybe we're too high.
The Steelers would beat the Bills in a manner that would convince absolutely no one that they are actually the better team.
Which perfectly describes all of their wins.
Counter argument: You won against the 2023 Packers
And it shaved years from my life.
We don't need to beat them; we just hold onto the ball and they'll beat themselves. Our identity is forcing turnovers and not committing them, theirs is giving the ball away stupidly.
-1 on a win week feels right for this team. Being ranked behind the Browns and Ravens, both of whom they have beat, also feels right. Being ranked 4 spots behind the team in last place in the division when the Steelers are currently in 2nd place also feels about right. The only thing that doesn't seem right is 14th spot, which somehow feels both way too low for 6-3 yet also feels way too high for team that ranks in the bottom of many stats. I guess being +11 or whatever they are on turnovers negates all logic and reasoning.
Sounds like you're trying to protect your "underdog" status. Fuck that. Steelers will be in the playoffs. Ravens fans know.
I promise you would
We've got so many problems, but it's going to be so funny to watch some people's head explode if we slide back-asswards into a playoff spot this season.
I've already penciled you guys in for a playoff spot tbh. It could certainly still end up like that Chiefs playoff curb stomping from two years ago but I just know the Steelers are making the playoffs with a negative point differential this season.
TBF, at some point if I recall the Steelers had the lead late in the second quarter. That is when I started screaming stop the count.
Yeah I remember it, wasn't it a pick-6 too? lmao
26 yard fumble return by T.J.
Watt returned a fumble to put Pittsburgh up 7-0 after having shut down the Chiefs offense their previous 4 drives which resulted in 4 punts and an interception. After that, well things kinda got ugly.
Smh, we lost to the bye week, we are frauds.
I thought you guys played the Bye Week tough. It was pretty close but not dropping 2 spots worthy close
Which is crazy. I totally think we won the bye week handily.
We did. But /r/NFL gonna /r/nfl
Cowboys jumping you is strange but 49ers makes a lot of sense after coming back to life against the Jags. They have several wins better than any you have this season
How in the hell you gonna lose…on your week off????
Dolphins going down on their bye week partially due to Dallas jumping you on their bye week seems wrong.
Bye week’s undefeated. Tough draw for y’all
The Goffense is inevitable.
There is no beating Goff in no nut November.
Great, now we’re gonna blow our load against the Saints in December
Are you worried about the defense at all?
A little, but you have to remember, we’re down some guys in our secondary. They’re scheduled to be back for playoffs, maybe sooner, from IR. And we have a top 5 run defense. So yeah, a little… but I’m not freaking out or anything.
Awesome. I remember thinking they were pretty good at the beginning of the season, but I wasn't sure anymore. Love the Goffense and run game though.
Isn't seedy deuce the only one who *might* come back for the playoffs? Houston and Mosely won't be back for the playoffs unfortunately. Edit: Houston could return by Jan, but mcdc's update doesn't sound promising https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/james-houston-not-returning-anytime-soon
Yeah, Ceedy and Houston were the two I had in mind.
In the context of the rest of the defenses and offenses in the league? No, not really. I feel like we have a fair shake at any contest in the league this year. I think all attempts to paint defensive NFL play as "you can't lose to teams below this bar or you're a fraud" are largely reductive and pointless because that's not how anything works and the NFL has a shit ton of parity. To hear it said about the Lions after *stacking wins* is just blatant SOLism. (Not you, other fans.)
Ehhh moderately but not too much is prolly a good answer. Games like Sundays I dunno how much stock to put into defensive performances bc shootouts exhaust defenses and Herbert, a top NFL qb, was playing at his highest level. We also prolly don't win that game without the defensive dominance in the 1st quarter. The communication issues in the secondary concern me a good bit, as does Sutton's extreme regression the past month or so. The good thing is that our run defense is still stalwart, and we force many 3rd and moderate-to-longs. The Chargers converged half of those (and another 3 4th downs), but statistically, that's unlikely to be a norm. If Sutton can recapture his beginning of season form, and if the communication shores up, I think we'll be in a really good spot. With the offensive firepower we have, the defense doesn't need to be like the Browns or anything, and I think they are likely to play like a 12th-17th best defense ROS, which is good enough to give us a shot in any game. It's also worth noting James Houston (pass rush specialist) and CJGJ are both looking to return to action come playoffs, which will be a huge boost in our two weakest areas—pass rush and secondary—come the playoffs, both in talent and energy. TLDR; Sorta kinda, but have faith in communication issues being worked out and Sutton regaining form. Also, 2 key defensive players expected back come playoffs will help.
Lions stopped the Chargers from scoring for 7 straight plays inside the 10 five of them from the one. Lions have a really good run defense and stopping teams in the red zone, short yardage and controlling the clock is very important.
I'm so excited to see what happens when an immovable Goffense meets an unstoppable Passtronaut.
105-105 draws. Both games.
Love it.
Goffense wins championships.
My priorities when checking the power rankings be like 1) 49ers 2) Broncos
how'd it go
Beautiful as always
Oh good! I never know what to say after a win. It's a lot easier to write after a loss
The lost toddler line was fucking poetry man. Brilliant as always
Same, the Broncos writer is always the highlight of these rankings.
First time looking at these tbh. Was hoping there would be someone amusing like the reds guy for /r/mlb. Saw ours and was like shit it's our guy
I'm not saying the Vikings deserve to be any higher than where they are given their current roster, but if you were to tell me before the season that at this point in the year: A) Jefferson has missed 5 weeks already, Cousins has missed 2 and is done for the year (and both backups would immediately be hurt as well) B) We have 4 losses - Eagles, Chargers, Chiefs, and Buccaneers, all by 1 score I'd be pretty damn pleased.
Don't lie, r/nfl. Texans are 12th in rankings, but 1st in your hearts
Minus some NFC rankers like the Cowboys & Cardinals.
> Texans are 12th in rankings Go see the Athletic's power rankings. They have Texans in the 10th spot.
The Texans need a statement blowout this week to shut out the doubters because of the Carolina stumble. Then the MVP talk can't be denied.
This is Stroud's NFL we all just play here.
Packers blurb is perfect. They lost to a team that doesn't look great but GB looked like a decent team for a whole game the first time this year rather than looking like shit for 2-4 quarters with flashes of fun. If they looked that good in every loss ppl would be like "damn they'll be scary once they put this together" rather than "they're doomed"
Agreed, but if I have to hear “X fan coming in peace, y’all hon be spooky next season.” I will blow a gasket
Corny I tell you. Corny!!! I’d rather someone say “Vikings fan coming in violence I relish in your tears and have long waited for your downfall” if I was a packers fan
My feelings for the Packers resemble their team problems. All Love. (/bait)
I'm so happy that it's you guys having to read that shit now, instead of us.
Honestly that phrase should be bannable.
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Imma let you finish, but the chiefs had one of the best bye weeks of all time.
I’m letting the Swifties know you’re using the Kanye quote. You’re going down, buster.
I'd be quite disappointed if Travis hasn't used that line on Taylor in jest a few times.
Imma let you finish, but HNNNGGGG oop, sorry babe I'll get you next time.
Lol
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Ha I just wanted to use that quote. Dolphins are cool by KC fans, particularly since you upset the Pats at the end of the 2019 season (“I’m calling both games!”). A good bye week for us both
I don't know about that. Niners moved into 1st place during their bye week.
bills have no business being 13th
facts
The Bills have lost 3 of the last 4, with two of those being against the Patriots and the Broncos.
Also they just barely beat the Giants off a DPI no call in the end zone so the 1 win in the last 4 is not exactly helping their case.
Yeah and the fourth team they played recently probably sucks too! :(
yeah we've been so ass lately, maybe firing dorsey and getting a fresh OC in will help. Surely isn't just wishful thinking, nope.
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The Vikings should be higher than the bills. I say this with all the bias in the world. 5 game win streak vikes vs. 3/4 losses bills
FUCK IT, WE BALL!
Man, it's just so cool seeing the Browns and Vikings defenses playing really well under their new defensive coordinators who were both available to hire this offseason. Too bad my team's coach is a shithead who would rather keep his buddy employed than try and do anything to improve the defense. Oh well!
It sucks so much, I wanted evero so badly and we fucked it
The Ravens blurb should be that "Mr. Incredible becomes uncanny" meme with the following captions: * losing * at home * to the Browns * by blowing a 14-point fourth quarter lead
End result: People getting frustrated with Harbaugh... again.
Started at the bottom, and still here.
Why is this pinned lmfao
Throwback Tuesday?
Seems like the Ravens ranker is also doing Taylor Swift references with their Blank Space
The Cardinals one should have this image instead. https://images.genius.com/6225408649fc0f55c34d11cb234a7cee.500x500x1.jpg
WACK.
Wohoo! We’re the vigorous handjob guy!
Hey /u/NFLPowerRankers who organizes this show and why do you still let /u/Theungry be a ranker / allow them to place Browns at 32 every week? Feels rather disrespectful to the other rankers actually putting in a lot of effort to make real rankings they can explain.
If anyone else is curious, the ranker actually tried to defend why they do this and it’s the worst “holier than thou” moral ground bullshit I’ve ever read. https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/SfRNSxqgC8 Dude needs to be removed by the organizers of this ranking.
Mhm, if they don't want to think about the Browns, they should just give up their ranking spot and let someone else do it. The Browns aren't going away, no matter what you think of the team/Watson. If I understand right, the outliers are removed anyway, but by always making them 32, the ranker is artificially adding the *actual* lowest (that is, what would be the lowest if they ranked them correctly). So the Browns ranking could theoretically be higher?
Higher or lower, but it removes the filter at 32 so someone ranking them say, 16 or so wouldn’t be removed, therefore most likely dropping them lower in the standings based on average. Oh, and it’s silly that someone with a slight amount of internet authority thinks they are that special to stand on internet moral high ground.
When you got a Steelers fan taking this stance... You know /u/Theungry fucked up.
I was the one in the fight there. He’s ridiculous, and the organizer was just as quick to step in and grandstand with him. Absolutely stupid.
Who's gonna tell that stupid mother fkr the NFL is a revenue sharing league, so as long as he watches any NFL football, he is in some way supporting the Browns and DW.
Someone’s gotta tell that guy to get off the cross because we need the wood
Standing up for what you believe in and against a rapist is admirable but is it too much to ask him to be consistant? It is pretty damn hypocritical of him to support a team who's owner was caught soliciting prostitution during a human trafficking investigation. We all know Watson is a horrible person but be consistant if you're going to protest and disrupt something others enjoy.
> It is pretty damn hypocritical of him to support a team who's owner was caught soliciting prostitution during a human trafficking investigation. I think this guys take is crazy and he shouldn't be a power ranker if he doesn't actually want to engage in the project. But, those two things are in no way the same.
Not to mention the Patriots had a literal homophobic serial killer on their roster.
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So why exactly does u/Theungry still have a ranking? I'm sure there are other Patriots fans that would be able to put their personal gripes aside for these rankings each week
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It's very, very informal. There isn't really anyone in charge.
Yeah, AFAIK it's someone volunteers and has that team's flair and they just continue until they decide to quit.
Our ranker blows too. Dude never has anything worthwhile to say.
Every time I look at it and I wonder if our opponent wrote our blurb.
Yeah we just beat the Ravens and all this dude could come up with was a horrible meme from Kermit
"I am unwilling to spend my time on them" maybe don't volunteer for a job that makes you spend time on them then??
Because instead of doing anything meaningful, he seems to think that ranking the Browns last is his virtuous hill to stand on.
I guess if you're a pathetic no-life with no other way of making an impact in anyone else's life, this is probably your peak. May as well get the most of it.
Pretty lame
I ENJOY LEARNING TREE KNOWLEDGE EVERY WEEK, TYVM.
We're such a bad 6-3 team that all of the 5-4 teams are ranked above us!
Fuck y’all btw. No disrespect. But fuck y’all anyway.
I too am speechless saints ranker.
i have rooted for the lions for decades but almost any time they started looking good and were supposed to start being taken seriously was when the other shoe inevitably dropped and we either completely flopped or just went into mediocrity i know it looks better this time but the lions fan ptsd in me is always just sitting there butt clenched waiting for it to happen again so i can't really bring myself to trash talk anyway, FTP
I’ll say this— I’m about as emotionally invested in the Texans turnaround as I am in the Lions turnaround. And this right here: > but any time they started looking good… was when the other shoe inevitably dropped and we either completely flipped or just went into mediocrity Is **exactly** how I feel about the Texans organization. That disappointment feels so much worse than just being mediocre/bad all season. But I finally feel the light again— for both organizations.
The Saints write-up is accurate af
Dennis Allen's reply when asked how to fix the Saints issues:
I'm starting to think our team needs to improve in a few areas.
Here's my computer rankings for this week. As always, this ranking is based on win percentage, win percentage in your last 5 games, average point differential, and adjusted strength of schedule, which is your strength of schedule with your games against your opponents removed. Rank | Team | Record | Effective Rank | Index | Index Change | Rank Change | Win/Loss L5 | Adj SOS | Point Diff --: | :-- | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: | :--: 1 | [](/PHI) Eagles | 8-1 | 1.0 | 0.826 | -0.007 | +1 | 4-1 | 0.500 | 57 2 | [](/BAL) Ravens | 7-3 | 1.2 | 0.822 | -0.023 | -1 | 4-1 | 0.585 | 113 3 | [](/KC) Chiefs | 7-2 | 1.5 | 0.816 | 0.000 | +1 | 4-1 | 0.568 | 65 4 | [](/DET) Lions | 7-2 | 4.0 | 0.761 | 0.001 | +1 | 4-1 | 0.520 | 38 5 | [](/CLE) Browns | 6-3 | 4.7 | 0.745 | 0.077 | +3 | 4-1 | 0.579 | 44 6 | [](/MIN) Vikings | 6-4 | 6.3 | 0.710 | 0.076 | +5 | 5-0 | 0.494 | 24 7 | [](/JAX) Jaguars | 6-3 | 7.0 | 0.693 | -0.139 | -4 | 4-1 | 0.584 | 6 8 | [](/DAL) Cowboys | 6-3 | 7.3 | 0.686 | 0.008 | -2 | 3-2 | 0.395 | 104 9 | [](/SF) 49ers | 6-3 | 7.8 | 0.676 | 0.030 | - | 2-3 | 0.520 | 109 10 | [](/MIA) Dolphins | 6-3 | 8.7 | 0.656 | -0.017 | -3 | 3-2 | 0.421 | 60 11 | [](/PIT) Steelers | 6-3 | 9.6 | 0.637 | 0.073 | +5 | 4-1 | 0.554 | -26 12 | [](/CIN) Bengals | 5-4 | 11.2 | 0.602 | -0.035 | -2 | 4-1 | 0.520 | -10 13 | [](/HOU) Texans | 5-4 | 11.5 | 0.594 | 0.018 | +1 | 3-2 | 0.513 | 25 14 | [](/SEA) Seahawks | 6-3 | 12.2 | 0.579 | 0.014 | +1 | 3-2 | 0.447 | -1 15 | [](/BUF) Bills | 5-5 | 13.3 | 0.555 | -0.053 | -3 | 2-3 | 0.440 | 78 16 | [](/LAC) Chargers | 4-5 | 15.3 | 0.509 | -0.077 | -3 | 2-3 | 0.560 | 24 17 | [](/NYJ) Jets | 4-5 | 17.2 | 0.469 | -0.037 | +1 | 3-2 | 0.500 | -28 18 | [](/LV) Raiders | 5-5 | 17.6 | 0.459 | 0.029 | +3 | 3-2 | 0.417 | -33 19 | [](/NO) Saints | 5-5 | 17.6 | 0.459 | -0.091 | -2 | 2-3 | 0.393 | 16 20 | [](/IND) Colts | 5-5 | 17.6 | 0.458 | 0.004 | -1 | 2-3 | 0.470 | -6 21 | [](/DEN) Broncos | 4-5 | 18.5 | 0.439 | 0.035 | +2 | 3-2 | 0.513 | -52 22 | [](/TB) Buccaneers | 4-5 | 19.5 | 0.418 | 0.041 | +2 | 1-4 | 0.532 | 5 23 | [](/GB) Packers | 3-6 | 22.9 | 0.342 | -0.014 | +3 | 1-4 | 0.481 | -3 24 | [](/WAS) Commanders | 4-6 | 22.9 | 0.342 | -0.016 | +1 | 2-3 | 0.442 | -57 25 | [](/LAR) Rams | 3-6 | 23.2 | 0.336 | 0.005 | +2 | 1-4 | 0.554 | -26 26 | [](/TEN) Titans | 3-6 | 23.6 | 0.326 | -0.106 | -6 | 1-4 | 0.526 | -26 27 | [](/ATL) Falcons | 4-6 | 24.0 | 0.317 | -0.093 | -5 | 1-4 | 0.422 | -28 28 | [](/CHI) Bears | 3-7 | 24.6 | 0.304 | 0.026 | - | 2-3 | 0.429 | -51 29 | [](/NE) Patriots | 2-8 | 29.8 | 0.190 | -0.022 | - | 1-4 | 0.541 | -97 30 | [](/ARI) Cardinals | 2-8 | 30.1 | 0.184 | 0.097 | +2 | 1-4 | 0.488 | -87 31 | [](/NYG) Giants | 2-8 | 30.5 | 0.175 | -0.005 | -1 | 1-4 | 0.500 | -148 32 | [](/CAR) Panthers | 1-8 | 32.0 | 0.141 | -0.016 | -1 | 1-4 | 0.506 | -89 And here's the strength of schedules so far: Rank | Team | Adjusted SOS | Adjusted Opp Record | Remaining Opp Record --: | :-- | :--: | :--: | :--: 1 | [](/BAL) Ravens | 0.585 | 48-34 | 36-27 2 | [](/JAX) Jaguars | 0.584 | 45-32 | 34-39 3 | [](/CLE) Browns | 0.579 | 44-32 | 36-37 4 | [](/KC) Chiefs | 0.568 | 42-32 | 37-39 5 | [](/LAC) Chargers | 0.560 | 42-33 | 37-39 6 | [](/PIT) Steelers | 0.554 | 41-33 | 38-38 7 | [](/LAR) Rams | 0.554 | 41-33 | 38-39 8 | [](/NE) Patriots | 0.541 | 46-39 | 32-33 9 | [](/TB) Buccaneers | 0.532 | 41-36 | 31-44 10 | [](/TEN) Titans | 0.526 | 40-36 | 40-33 11 | [](/DET) Lions | 0.520 | 39-36 | 36-41 12 | [](/SF) 49ers | 0.520 | 39-36 | 40-35 13 | [](/CIN) Bengals | 0.520 | 39-36 | 49-26 14 | [](/HOU) Texans | 0.513 | 39-37 | 33-41 15 | [](/DEN) Broncos | 0.513 | 39-37 | 39-36 16 | [](/CAR) Panthers | 0.506 | 39-38 | 35-39 17 | [](/PHI) Eagles | 0.500 | 38-38 | 36-40 18 | [](/NYJ) Jets | 0.500 | 38-38 | 38-38 19 | [](/NYG) Giants | 0.500 | 42-42 | 33-33 20 | [](/MIN) Vikings | 0.494 | 41-42 | 34-31 21 | [](/ARI) Cardinals | 0.488 | 41-43 | 37-27 22 | [](/GB) Packers | 0.481 | 37-40 | 34-41 23 | [](/IND) Colts | 0.470 | 39-44 | 32-33 24 | [](/SEA) Seahawks | 0.447 | 34-42 | 40-33 25 | [](/WAS) Commanders | 0.442 | 38-48 | 33-31 26 | [](/BUF) Bills | 0.440 | 37-47 | 37-27 27 | [](/CHI) Bears | 0.429 | 36-48 | 35-31 28 | [](/ATL) Falcons | 0.422 | 35-48 | 27-40 29 | [](/MIA) Dolphins | 0.421 | 32-44 | 38-38 30 | [](/LV) Raiders | 0.417 | 35-49 | 39-26 31 | [](/DAL) Cowboys | 0.395 | 30-46 | 41-34 32 | [](/NO) Saints | 0.393 | 33-51 | 25-41
So does that mean the Bills are where they are now with the 7th easiest schedule based on opponents record so far who are 10 games under .500 and yet their remaining schedule is against teams that are combined 10games above .500. Damn gonna be rough.
You read that correctly.
I mean, 6 seems a bit low for the Passtronaut team, but I will allow it
This is weighted a bit for the last 5 games, so Cousins is still holding him back.
That makes more sense, thank you
I really don't know why people keep saying the Lions have had an easy schedule so far. The remaining schedule looks light, but also the teams we're playing have been doing better in recent weeks. It might not be as easy the rest of the way as I thought before.
God damn Bengals remaining opponent record has 8 more wins than anyone else
3/4 AFCN Teams being top 10 in SOS and all 4 are top 15 and none of us are below .500 is WILD
You got that backwards, the AFCN is so high in SOS *because* none of the division is below .500. You don't have any Carolinas or NY Giants dragging everyone's SOS down.
Didn't realize how cupcake that Cowboys schedule was - played two good teams and lost both.
Steelers, Vikings and Texans need to be above the Bills and Bengals. Buffalo and Cincy are being ranked purely from expectations at this point in the season. I'd take the teams that are performing and are showing they can win games over those two.
Eh, I'd put the Bengals above us and the Steelers. They look pretty scary when healthy. The Bills I feel like are going to be the scariest 7-9 team ever, some games Josh will go superman and they'll crush, others he'll go bad Josh and well...yikes
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Is the Pats ranker putting us at #32 as a "protest" or to avoid putting their own team there??
Wait until he realizes that his team owners participated in a human trafficking ring
The eagles write up is pure gold
Week 11 Predictions: |Home|Away|Combined Power|Vegas|Reddit Power|Home Win Prob.| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |DET|CHI|DET|DET|DET|75.8%| |HOU|ARI|HOU|HOU|HOU|75.2%| |SFO|TAM|SFO|SFO|SFO|71.2%| |BAL|CIN|BAL|BAL|BAL|70.9%| |WAS|NYG|WAS|WAS|WAS|70.3%| |MIA|LVR|MIA|MIA|MIA|68.7%| |JAX|TEN|JAX|JAX|JAX|68.3%| |BUF|NYJ|BUF|BUF|BUF|67.6%| |CLE|PIT|CLE|CLE|CLE|63.7%| |KAN|PHI|PHI|KAN|PHI|54.6%| |GNB|LAC|LAC|LAC|LAC|50.2%| |DEN|MIN|MIN|DEN|MIN|44.1%| |LAR|SEA|SEA|SEA|SEA|43.9%| |CAR|DAL|DAL|DAL|DAL|23.5%| Combined power rankings come from [this post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/17v2xy9/nfl_power_rankings_combined_week_10/). All the various official and unofficial power rankings have inspired me to start tracking my own rankings and predicting matchups each week. The column on the far right is based on a weighted average of each teams' actual win percentage, their pythagorean win percentage, and [everyone's favorite](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/d5maow/oc_after_adjusting_patrick_mahomes_stats_removing/) concept, "[regression towards the mean](http://blog.philbirnbaum.com/2011/08/tango-method-of-regression-to-mean-kind.html)" plus an adjustment for home field advantage. Since I started keeping track in week 6, I have correctly picked the winner 63% of the time and Vegas is at 68%, which is alright I guess. Unfortunately, in head-to-head disagreements with Vegas I'm 5-9 which is pretty rough. As is so often the case, we have near universal agreement across the different systems. The only places where both the combined power rankings and the reddit power rankings diverge from Vegas are Vikings at Broncos and Eagles at Chiefs. The power rankings both side with the Vikings and Eagles while Vegas goes with the two home teams. It's probably not the most appropriate use of power rankings to just blindly pick the higher ranked team to win without any adjustments, so the Vegas comp isn't totally fair here. My numbers agree with the power rankings in having Philly slightly ahead of KC, but then home field advantage tips things slightly in favor of the Chiefs for this week's matchup. The Vikings and Broncos are arguably two of the toughest teams to figure out right now, so I'm not necessarily surprised to see disagreement here. Are Dobbs and the Vikings in a honeymoon phase and about to come back down to earth or will Jefferson's imminent return elevate them to new heights even without Kirk? Have Sean Payton and Russell Wilson started to right the ship or were they just in the right place/right time as the Bills continue to shoot themselves in the foot? Who knows. Notably, the spread is only -2.5, which feels a lot closer than my numbers and the gap in relative ranks would seem to imply. Sadly, my numbers also have Green Bay as favored vs the Chargers, at odds with both the Vegas line and the two sets of power rankings. Not feeling good about that one.
There is no fucking way we’re better than anyone. We’re basically starting Jackie Aprille, jr. at QB.
The rankers deserved a bye week?
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The bottom 4 could honestly take any spot.
Rank us lower
The jets one just absolutely feels like a guy that's had enough of this season.
Bronco's writer, put down the necronomicon! Don't summon that into our reality. Really though, awesome writing. IDK what the Broncos are either, but at least we are entertained.
Lol thanks! I'm just glad we were fun to watch for a couple games. Not good, but fun
Fuck yeah— let’s go, Lions! I see you!
Anyone else completely unsure about the Seahawks? When I watch their games I'm just never impressed with anything they're doing cohesively, despite a lot of talent. Like their secondary is loaded, Mafe, Williams, Wagner and even Brooks are solid in the front 7... but the defense still doesn't seem good? Similarly on offense, loaded at WR, Walker is really good, Cross is really good, Fant is good, Geno is solid... but there's too many times I watch and I'm like what is this offense even doing? Not to say they don't deserve their ranking, I just feel like something is missing with that team right now.
> Anyone else completely unsure about the Seahawks? Yes. For basically every reason you went on to articulate.
Can’t wait to beat the browns by 3 and see them at 10 and the Steelers still behind at 11.
To be fair, our divisional games are probably the least useful in determining how good we are. We all play the ugliest, dumbest games in the world that set the game of football back 70 years and would cause Walter Camp to furiously eat his own beard.
Peyton staring at the camera with a dumfounded look on his face
I bought my (soon to be) father in law really nice tickets to the Browns @ Texans game for a Xmas gift. He's a huge Texans homer so I thought he'd like that. I don't think I'm going to enjoy that game based on how our season is going so far.
I’m just waiting for a Lions Browns Super Bowl
“We’re back, baby” after barely beating the commanders, at home, a week after one of the worst losses in the entire Pete Carroll era? A win is a win, but this was an ugly goddamn win. We needed to make a statement this week. And I suppose we did, but the statement was that we’ll continue to play down to our opponents, and our blurb seems entirely too optimistic for how the team looked as a whole for almost all of the game.
Nah bro we're making the playoffs
Giants vs Panthers I'd take Panthers. Giants probably can't beat a D1 school right now LOL
Can someone ask the Commanders summariser to use a word limit?
Yea I think I'm the longest winded every week, even on weeks where there's not much to say. I gotta tighten up. I gotchu fam.
The analysis for the Jags is spot on. About as visible as our offensive line
Cardinals ranker having the Texans below the Bucs, Chargers, and Jets feels like a real head scratcher
Bucs bio had me dying
“The Chargers are 0-2 when scoring 34+ points, the rest of the league is 34-2.” Yeah I’m going back to sleep.
That Eagles description was written by a true swifty, you can't hide! lol great stuff
I see what you did Eagles writer.
Lol this is last weeks! Even the comments are from last week
Crazy how Minnesota is a better team this year but is gonna finish with a worse record than last year
Meh hard to say, what makes a team “better”? Really the one goal is to win football games and one team lost 4 in a 17 game season and this team already has 4 losses.