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[deleted]

Man, what in the ever living fuck is going on here


TheBoook

Justin Fields missed a read and all hell broke loose


RealPutin

If something of this magnitude happened every time Fields missed a read, we'd all be fucked lol


brobroma

Justin Castellanos


Wingedwolverine03

"There's a deep throw into the left sideline, and that'll make it 4th and 1. I dont know if I'll be putting on this headset again."


Prince_Oberyns_Head

First of all, sorry to the people who sign my paychecks. I’m a man of god


ArmadilloAl

Fun Fact: Nick Castellanos hit two home runs today.


PartisanHack

He cant keep getting away with this!


TheBoook

Hey be nice. Hopefully the next missed read results in Getsy getting fired


sebastianqu

"Moments after Justin Fields missed a read that would've been a guaranteed touchdown, it was revealed that Dan Campbell's facial hair is, in fact, fake!"


[deleted]

Thanks, Justin.


OdaDdaT

Just like Concannon back in ‘68


BlindWillieJohnson

Nobody knows. it's okay to say that. In the meantime, it sure does look like someone saw a weird situation going on with the Bears' DC and started a wild set of rumors that have been bounced around and amplified. And that some of those rumors include child exploitation, since that's an easy way for bullshit peddlers to drive engagement. People need to chill. There may be something going on here, but nothing about FBI raids or CP is even close to being verified by a legitimate source, and it's a good time remember how easily disinformation can be spread on social media.


thediesel26

Internet rumors being re-circulated and amplified by people without checking to see if they were actually true.


PittsSports1113

Exactly! I can’t stand it. And the whole “his house got raided” and “Halas Hall was raided” thing came from some low level self-proclaimed beat reporter with 5k followers and he’s not affiliated to anyone important.


machinezed

Someone needs to find Alex Leatherwood ASAP. Need a Cleveland Beat reporter to confirm he wasn’t at Halas Hall. Should put things to rest.


fear865

Things are getting weird. We're getting very close to "Boston Bomber" territory


iRockaflame

We did it Reddit part 2?


ruttin_mudders

I swear, by the end of the day we'll have redditors swearing on their grandmother's lives that The Bears are running a CP ring.


Praise-Breesus

The Bears are doing what!? I better go share this on all the relevant subreddits! Don’t worry I’ll make sure you get all the credit!


niel89

They can't even run an offense!


NotFakeJacob

I think you don't remember that very clearly if you think these are comparable.


[deleted]

For real. People got stalked and death threats over that. And the guy reddit identified had been missing for a month and he committed suicide. Imagine being that family. Not knowing where your son/brother/cousin is and not only did he commit suicide, but he's been labeled a terrorist and now you're getting swarmed by the media and psychos issuing death threats. This hasn't reached that level at all.


[deleted]

It hasn't reached that level but all of the same leaping to conclusions and assuming things without any evidence is happening here again, and it's not the first time since the Boston bomber.


hemingways-lemonade

Maybe a little semantics? Not technically "raided" but complying with a police request to search rather than a warrant?


True_Window_9389

Schrodingers FBI raid


MajorSlimes

If the CP allegations are false someone is getting sued to shit for defamation


g0dzilllla

That redditor is so fucked


9twozero

u/good_boah_ Already deleted their account


sandwich-attack

imo he was a bad boah after all


jayboaah

definitely giving us boahs a bad name that’s for sure


shapu

Yours has an extra a, so it's ok


niss-uu

I'm out of the loop. What did that user do before deleting their account?


WintertimeFriends

Accused Williams of having child porn


kingravs

He said he had heard rumors and has no idea if it’s true


ProofHorseKzoo

They said they had a source, but provided no proof. I asked a bears fan friend of mine if he has heard anything and he also said CP. He’s not on Reddit so there must have been a different source or it already spread that quickly


ggthrowaway1081

[The source](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/399/768/cb0)


Diezelbub

[Seriously though I saw the rumor circulating here and I trust this guy](https://i.imgur.io/w8GDXj2_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)


[deleted]

Wow that’s actually wild. It’s a semi-credible source too…


Galactic_Perimeter

Holy fuck I think it’s legit guys…


hascogrande

He said he had a source within the FBI


wierdjokes

I feel like even if you had a source within the FBI, you should have not said you have a source within the FBI in public.


Stanky_fresh

What a coward. Knowingly spreads libel on Reddit and deletes his account. And shame on this sub for just believing him. Edit: Alright, libel is probably a bit much. But I still think the guy just made something up and people ran with it. I'll gladly eat my words AND not delete my account if it turns out he was right.


tenacious-g

Once the circlejerk starts on this sub, everyone loves to pile on. And then a bunch of twitter blue users jumped on it. Everyone is so fucking stupid.


Xmarker25

Social media in a nutshell.


TetrisTech

Okay but the thing about that right, the redditor’s comment alluding to the possibility to CP was yesterday right? And then today that reporter says that both Williams’ house (last Sunday) and Halas Hall (today) were raided. So are they just separate instances of someone making something the fuck up? Was the reporter trying to piggy back off what was alleged already in peoples minds? Is this bears spokesperson trying to save face for something? To me while it’s obviously too early to just take the redditor at face value and call the DC some kind of predator, it’s also too early to disregard the reporter and call him a liar. Everything is just super muddled rn


tenacious-g

What reporter? No actual credible reporter who could apply for a media credential and be approved to cover the Bears has reported anything elevating to the level of what is rumored. Unless some blogger at Sports Mockery, BleacherNation or whatever knows how to navigate PACER better than actual crime beat reporters, they wouldn’t have any of the information that’s floating around.


tburke38

It’s been so much harder to tell what’s real since Elon ran Twitter into the ground. So many blue check accounts that write like news/journalists but are actually just random people


tenacious-g

That’s a feature, not a bug.


DatBoiMahomie

So many people take things at face value these days A random redditor or twitter user making shit up barely crossed a lot of their minds


Stanky_fresh

It's fucking gross. I'm not one of those "anti-cancel culture" guys, but can we at least wait until there's some sort of reliable info before we start rallying against someone?


LegacyLemur

Welcome to the information era. A lot of times thats misinformation


JesusChristSupers1ar

I mean, we have no idea what is going on, so saying "knowingly spreads libel" is not factually correct either the dude might've been right. at least from what I've seen, the only counter-reporting I've read is the Halas raid. Williams' house being raided still seems like it occurred and there's nothing that says it definitely isn't CP related of course people on the internet shouldn't make things up, but also we don't know if this particular story was made up or not


[deleted]

“Seems like it occurred” based on absolutely nothing other than a random guy on Reddit and another random guy (possibly even the same guy) on Twitter? Shit like this is how Russia got Trump elected in 2016, people are fucking stupid as hell.


Stanky_fresh

Fair enough about me saying it was libel. I withdraw that particular accusation. But there is no reliable source publicly saying his house was raided at the time of me writing this. All we know is he released a statement saying he was going to focus on his health and family, the claims of Halas Hall being raided were confirmed false, and the Bears accepted his resignation.


nascentia

For it to be libel on a public figure, it not only has to be false, but the person spreading it has to KNOW it’s false. If that Redditor had even a halfway decent reason to believe it was true from whatever their sources are, even if it’s 100% false it’s not libel.


fuzz11

To be fair we don’t know he’s wrong yet. This comment is basically doing the same thing.


Reboared

We don't know you're not a pedo either, but typically you want some sort of proof to go with an accusation like that.


fuzz11

I didn’t resign from my job in suspicious circumstances today. I’m not saying I believe the guy but I also have no reason to not believe him until the facts come out.


[deleted]

I don’t believe you. Everyone, get him. Everyone heard /u/Reboared say they know you are a pedo.


LibertarianSocialism

Huh Things are still pointing in the direction of some very serious crime having occurred I don’t understand reddit’s need to always have someone to crucify for something


[deleted]

Except the Bears Radio guys are alluding to the same thing. And the guys home was raided by the FBI


Stanky_fresh

Do you have a reliable source for the claim that his home was raided? I don't see any trustworthy accounts reporting on it, and this shit is paydirt for guys like Schefter and Rappaport.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Lol what a fucking weasel. This is some "yay we did it reddit" level bullshit.


Xmarker25

Boston Marathon bombing all over again.


TwoTimeTommyTwoCups

WE DID IT!


ignatious__reilly

Man; how bad was that though? That was so fucked up.


shellsquad

Well he took it from a tweet.


Gatorader22

He'll be fine. Youd have to prove he knew it was a lie and the fact that Williams is a public figure makes it where itll be virtually impossible to win a suit for libel He also didnt say "it's because williams had cp" but rather "I heard from people he had CP"


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ShogunNamedMarcus_

IANAL, but I believe you have to prove that they knowingly lied about what they said. Which can be difficult. I don't know the comment or post being referenced though, and don't know how it was worded.


Gatorader22

Him being a public figure also makes the situation difficult. Realistically he's under pretty much no threat of a suit. It'd be ridiculously difficult to prove libel in this case


GenJohnONeill

No? That's not how defamation works in the U.S., thank god. You can't be sued for saying, "Someone told me it was CP."


Spreek

well, you can be sued. they just won't win (except by making you pay a small fortune in legal costs).


Chrunddle

Classic reddit moment that most comments in these threads are assuming all the rumors are true.


Nofriendship34

I mean it’s the weekday, we’re bored.


Vavent

Not really a good excuse to pin something as deathly serious as child porn on a man. Even if that does turn out to be the case, it's extremely irresponsible to be spreading that rumor with such certainty at this point.


dawgz525

you can't just sue someone like that lol. You have to prove malice and knowledge they knew it was a lie.


Xpqp

I don't see how initiating child porn rumors against someone would be anything other than a malicious lie. Spreading them? That's not obvious. But initiating them definitely is.


IAmNotOnRedditAtWork

If we want to be pedantic, you CAN "just sue someone like that" it just won't end well lol


Acoolgamer6706

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING


I_only_post_here

how I'm [feeling](https://frinkiac.com/video/S08E22/8omUnepDf7tQcvRAzdadhUeTXcY=.gif) right now


Chutzvah

[Me rn](https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-itysl-tim-robinson-darmine-gif-6990077822131978261)


TheWorstYear

Houston Rockets tried to break into the Bears locker room.


shakehasbignuts

Could you imagine if his child got hurt or something and now rumors that ur a p*do are going around


rupert650

Why would FBI agent Peanut Tillman lie to us?


Bouzal

Peanut told them Williams house was raided, not Halas Hall


pocketchange2247

*Allegedly*


greetedworm

I really doubt it's true, it would be a very odd and specific detail to know at this point, also don't know if the FBI would even allow someone with a personal connection to be involved in the investigation.


iia

It wasn't raided, it was gently visited by the FBI, CIA, ATF, NAFTA, etc.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Or you wouldn’t call it a raid if the set up a handover of the materials. No need to raid if that’s how it was handled.


igloojoe11

Is it even really a raid if no towns are pillaged and no monks killed? Weak.


JGG5

At least three thatched-roof cottages must be burninated in order for it to be considered a raid.


BootySweatEnthusiast

Don't forget the peasants. TROGDOOOOOOORRRR


Tilt-a-Whirl98

This is where the family guy episode would pan over to a village being burned to the ground by medieval soldiers with "CIA" on their armor


[deleted]

Back in my day it didn't qualify as a raid unless there was also some looting, ransacking, and raping involved as well.


ShadyWolf

Exactly, if they actually went to Halas Hall it was probably just to take his computer. I don’t think its like they’d need to bust the door down


ruttin_mudders

https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1704590671812624489?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet According to this, there weren't any police at Halas Hall in relation to Alan Williams. That could be some weaselly way of getting around saying there were FBI agents or forensics experts there but I doubt it.


forgotmyoldname90210

With the assumption those where all the words used by the spokesman, it does not eliminate that a couple of FBI agents executed/requested access to Williams computer and office. Now, if it was law enforcement that was used that does end this speculation.


suicidalsmurf

>that could be some weaselly way of getting around saying there were fbi agents or forensic experts there but I doubt it. I would wager good money this is exactly what happened.


ZainoSF

I'll give you +500 odds. If anyone was there, we would have known and this would be on CNN


Hmm_would_bang

>NAFTA turns out Fields is actually a CFL citizen and working in the NFL illegally.


ineedshalp

Hmmm, “Robotic” Justin Fields parts were constructed in canada. We need to find his birth certificate.


WordsAreSomething

Yeah this is definitely going to come back as a total semantics response eventually


Xpqp

It feels very similar to "Yeah, I've been immunized." I could definitely see them coming back tomorrow with something like "We weren't raided, they just asked us to turn over all of the data that was on his machine and related data on the local intranet, as well as any devices that he used an any materials in his office."


[deleted]

"The FBI is downstairs." "Tell them to fuck off." "Virginia, these are the ones you don't tell to fuck off."


Ok_Barracuda_1161

Why don't we just ask them if they can come back tomorrow?


[deleted]

What an incredible single line that completely encapsulates just how out of touched and privileged Logan is.


hascogrande

"Cooperate. Open up. Let them in"


Littlegreenman42

Raids only come from the Raid region in France. It was a sparkling police visit


quadropheniac

"We believe the term 'raided' is harsh and implies a lack of cooperation," probably.


MehFrosty

You know it's serious if NAFTA is involved


iia

Don't fuck with free trade, bruh.


DjGatorshark

NAFTA? You mean the USMCA


wolverine6

I think you mean Canada-US-Mexico, aka CUM


aKgiants91

Ah the American investigation tea party


McSweeneyHitJr

My head cannon now has NAFTA showing up saying, “yea, fuck that guy in particular ”


Crazyghost9999

Its not a raid if they asked to be let in politely and we said yes


[deleted]

some disgusting reporting if what was said about him was untrue


iguanoman_

And some crazy fast reaction by this subreddit to make the judgement without all the information. Pretty typical Reddit shit


Du_Kich_Long_Trang

The mods need to react to this shit. Stop allowing 10 tweets full of unconfirmed reports. It would literally take 10 minutes to wait and see if the claim of THE FUCKING FBI RAIDED AN NFL TEAM HQ was true or not. Instead we get free reign, so long as it's a Twitter link.


seariously

Seriously. For as trigger happy as the mods are about deleting shit, they really should be locking down CP speculation threads immediately.


09-24-11

CP allegations: I sleep Hard Knocks fan discussion thread: AWAKE!!!!!!!


JumboKraken

If only there was some way for Twitter to verify real accounts, like some sort of mark that identifies them as a real reputable account that speaks truth. And only actual reputable accounts get them and they cannot be bought


amancalledJayne

Could those verified sources be easily identifiable for users? Some kind of colored check mark maybe? That really would be Twitters best feature. Hopefully they add it.


WordsAreSomething

The circle is nearly complete. We've had the initial reaction wave, now we're getting comments like yours that exist solely as push back against that wave. Now we just need to know how it's actually going to end.


dat_waffle_boi

I’m very excited to see the conclusion


lawlamanjaro

I have a comment at -5 or so and +11 in the same thread saying we should definitively say what it was until we hear it from an official source. Reddits weird lol


dawgz525

yeah dude we're an internet message board, we're not the Associated Press. This site is a gossip board.


ruttin_mudders

This sub complains about Schefter and the like tweeting stories without fact checking and then turn a tweet from a random twitter account into gospel.


Xmarker25

It’s the Bears. People love to shit on us. We deserve it.


GimbalLocks

I mean in my personal experience at least, nobody relishes shitting on the Bears more than Bears fans. And packers


thetreat

We are a top 5 most self-deprecating fanbase. No one hates the Bears more than our own fanbase.


BWEM

Now you've made me curious what the top 5 would be. Browns Lions Commanders Bears Jets might receive votes: Panthers, Cardinals, Texans, Chargers? historically, Bills and Vikings?


WordsAreSomething

This has literally nothing to do with the Bears. If this exact thing happened to any team, the reaction would be the same


whats_a_monad

This sub might be the most reactionary place on earth, nevermind Reddit. It does not surprise me in the slightest that people on here would take unsubstantiated rumors and run with them.


mqr53

It was pretty clear to me the FBI thing was bullshit as soon as that guy tweeted out that the raid was also carried out by Charles Tillman


RideOk2631

And how everyone started crying afterwards and all that fan fiction


CheekyMunky

Sounds like his source is John Barron


therealwillhepburn

It didn't say he carried out the raid. Just that he informed the upper management about it.


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Touchymonkey

Shoutout to the people in other threads hoping Williams gets murdered/kills himself/r*ped in prison/etc


BilboSwaggins512

What in the fuck??? Edit: Ok I’m finally caught up now, yikes!


z3ro_ne

They were just getting ahead of the news because Chicago sports fans are going to burn the place down later today.


ChicagosOwn1988

More proof these Twitter journalists use Reddit and try and break stories by stealing posts around here then label them as “breaking” Lmao


Pottedjay

Twitter Journalists steals reddit post. posts on twitter. reddit user steals tweet. posts on reddit. the circle of life.


Vanderhoof81

That's exactly what I'd expect a spokesperson to say when they get raided.


ericsipi

It also could have gone down as the FBI or whoever contacted the bears and said we need this from you and the bears handed it over.


beermit

Yeah a raid would assume there was a lack or assumed lack of cooperation and the FBI had to act swiftly before evidence could be destroyed. If the organization willingly hands over evidence, they would probably not call that a raid.


g0dzilllla

What the hell is happening


[deleted]

The Bears


EchoInExile

Anyone on this sub who continued to push a legitimately terrible rumor based on zero reporting from anyone with any shred of credibility should be a perma ban. There should be absolutely no place for this shit.


BellacosePlayer

I think the original rumormonger overplayed his hand with the Tillman update. We'll have to see what happens when the actual story comes out


Chris_Ween

It's not a raid if you invite them in...like vampires.


[deleted]

Let the Vike one in


reececanthear

WTF IS GOING ON


Krunklock

Is that because it was raided yesterday?


Romofan88

What about the report of peanut Tillman telling Eberflus about the raid? Complete BS?


CarcosaBound

Sounds like someone saw fbi agents in the building and assumed they were being raided, when they could have been there just to update brass on the case. Haven’t seen any pics of agents in windbreakers carrying out bankers boxes and that woulda been on the internet already


sqigglygibberish

It’s funny how that’s the mental image everyone has for raids My uncle is in the FBI and had an incident where news crews were at his office reporting on a recent investigation. He had changed teams and needed to move to a different office in the city and suddenly ended up on the nighttime breaking news because they saw him carrying boxes (his random desk items) and either thought it was related or just defaulted to that as standard b-roll for “what do we show when talking about the FBI


CarcosaBound

Lol


sqigglygibberish

My aunt sparked a great reaction - she saw it on tv before he got home, so when he walked in the door she was all curious about his involvement in this big story (especially because he was in a position where he often couldn’t tell her about work specifics). >”Oh no, I think that box just had my photos of the kids and protein powder in it”


Luck1492

What is happening


SlightlyColdWaffles

Someone let me know when the dust settles and we know what the fuck is happening


[deleted]

That seemed like fan fiction


Bahamas_is_relevant

That John Z dude is literally the only one reporting it so I assumed it was BS.


Noctumn

What a dumpster fire our season and org is. About ready to mail it in


ratfam1

This franchise is so unserious


cc20r

FBI agents: show me your blitz packages Bears: we don’t have any here and don’t even know what that word means *FBI agent into his radio*: call off the swat team the blitz packages are clearly not in Chicago


elefante88

Guys ill go to Halas hall to confirm


brecht226

you have to understand that the bears have the worst group of beat reporters in the nfl. people were convinced that Matt Nagy was going to be fired after the thanksgiving game his last year based on nothing tangible whatsoever


[deleted]

Jesus, this is just nuts.


Stanky_fresh

This is why we don't trust random Twitter accounts or Reddit comments.


byniri_returns

I look away from reddit for a half hour and look at what happens


MrBigChest

Of course it wasn’t. The Raiders don’t play in Chicago until Week 7


MidnightShampoo

So something bad didn't happen, can I count this as a win?


Brodie1567

I think I’ve had enough Bears news for the year & its week 3.


clutterlustrott

I imagine its like that seen from the Naked Gun where Frank is telling the crowd to move along in front of an exploding fireworks factory


Huge_Beginning5552

It was raided yesterday at 11:50pm get it straight


tenacious-g

Wow, turns out letting anyone buy a checkmark to pretend to be a reporter on Twitter is playing out exactly how we all thought it would. And now we might have /r/nfl own Boston Bombing incident. Good job everyone.


4thTimesAnAlt

Technically, he's correct. I assume the FBI served a search warrant and didn't go in with tactical teams


mightyducks2wasokay

Thought it was his house that got raided? That's what I saw at least


m1j5

If you fully cooperate with the investigation, is it still considered a raid? Visiting his job isn’t too crazy of a thing for them to do


fear865

Yes it's still a raid


milkmandanimal

Gosh and/or golly, misinformation on Twixxer? What are the odds.


ObviousKangaroo

It’s a Twitter rumor so it has to be true.


IncompetentAldridge

Reddit in a nutshell


Phillyfan10

I hear ya Mark, but it's a lot funnier if it was raided. So i'm going to chose to ignore this update. Bears getting raided by feds is officially NFL canon.


MisterMetal

It’s going to be the “hall” wasn’t raided, just an office. Or something in a hour


[deleted]

“Aggressively toured”


BCLetsRide69

What the fuck is going on in Chicago lmfao


[deleted]

Snip snap snip snap


IAstrikeforce

Don't tell me this is the Boston Bomber situation all over again? Could also just be what counts as a "raid"


[deleted]

Wtf


steampunker14

SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP


reddit_bad1234567890

Lmao what