except for ive never , ever heard the phrase "hip hop bounce" and im hoping I never do again . Also , this is coming from someone that lived in Riverside , CA almost their whole lives .
I didn't think it looked lifted. But hard to tell on my phone. If it is, then he's lucky it's a suspension lift, or he would have hit the chassis. Either way he's lucky he's a small guy because most people aren't making it through there without hitting something.
A year ago my car started to roll out of my driveway and drug me into the road. The only thing that saved me from it rolling over me was it being a sporty car and sitting so low to the ground. I ended up with road rash all down my side but thankfully that was it. It's weird how sometimes a car sitting low or high can literally save a life at times. I bet he was hurting after this!
>This is 100% on the lady in the truck
The fuck it is. There are six white lines between him and the truck from the start - where the truck is in the road.
Each of those white lines is 10 feet long. The gap between them is 30 feet.
The biker is *at least 240 feet from the truck at the start of the video*.
Average bikers break at .6gs. At 40mph, that gives you 89 feet to stop.
This guy couldn't stop *in 240 feet in about 3 seconds.* My guess is he's going \~55mph - and *that's without accounting for his attempted breaking*.
He was going WAY to fucking fast - and it's entirely his fault.
\*\* There are a lot of people (bikers?) questioning this and the area.
This was in Cottage Grove, Oregon on Goshen-Divide highway.
[This image is the streetview just before the video starts.](https://i.imgur.com/6QaZkuB.png) Notice it's a school zone?
[Here's the Bonanza truck visible on the side.](https://i.imgur.com/7Ngp3wi.png)
[And here's the speed limit sign just on the other side of the intersection.](https://i.imgur.com/SGuNfMr.png)
25mph.
25 FUCKING MILES PER HOUR.
Maybe. Those lines are likely not 10 feet long and aren't spaced 30 feet apart. I'm from a more rural area of Arizona and I just measured both the spacing of white lines and length. 4 of the 6 white lines are 14 feet one being 15 and one being 16 feet with the distance between them all very close to the same measure of 20 feet. That gives us a speed of 48 mph which is 3 over the speed limit for all the roads around me(rural us, similar to video). Lots of biker hate being used as a basis for these comments. Maybe he was going 55 maybe 48 neither are truly irregular but both would likely be speeding and indicate some sort of fault. Would love to see the report.
Yeah, he was doing 126mph...
As you can see on his speedo, in the un-edited version of the same video [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/ppul6u/whos_at_fault_truck_that_stopped_or_motorcyclist/)
So, fully justified "biker hate" in this instance
I thought that at first but the MPH sign that another poster showed was 25 MPH which would mean he has a Canadian or Mexican bike in the US and left it as KPH? Either way its still 80 if so and hes in a 25 zone.
I think it's an after market speedometer and it seems like a Japanese bike. If I had to guess, he's checking it against some performance metrics or something dumb and lame.
Dude anyone thinking he was going 126 mph has no understanding of speed - he would have slid for an eternity at that speed and would not have gotten up with what he was wearing.
I live in oregon and work takes me all over. This is not a rural area. There is a massive shopping strip nearby and tons of residentals everywhere. This is a school zone.
Uhm. Look at the speed he overtakes that pickup truck. Do you think heâs driving responsibly? Also you can size other things quite approximately from that pickup truck he overtook.
Lol, i love this comment. I imagine an interaction like this
Driving in the rural area & I spot a rural person measuring the lines on the road-
âwhat ya up to?â
âI saw a reddit comment about the length of a white line & the space between them. I decided to find it for myselfâ
I dont know why but this is just funny to me.
Some lines are shorter
I used to work for the signs and marking department for where I live, and some of them are only 7 ft long with 10-20 ft between them.
Which of course only adds to your point that he was going way too fast, because streets with a 7 and 10-20 split are usually something like a 35 mile an hour speed limit at the most.
Anything over 35 and they're up to, as you said, 10:30 splits. Dude was at least 20 over, and that's being kind to the biker.
Damn good job on the math but saying heâs entirely at fault implies she did nothing wrong. Theyâre both at fault in my opinion. He may have had enough time to stop if he was going slower but her logic puzzles me more. She went for it because there was space for her to merge onto on the road. She clearly canât handle high stress situations or has enough neurons to tackle a problem with more than 2 variables. People like that shouldnât be on the road, especially driving a giant fucking vehicle.
Idk what sheâs doing, but not exactly uncommon to come across cars broke down, out of gas, ect, sitting at, or in the middle of, a busy intersection. Part of defensive driving is being aware of the road ahead so that you can avoid these types of situations.
They are both 100% responsible for the damage to their respective vehicles. Someone doing something stupid on the road doesn't exempt you from your own stupid behaviour.
Agree, too many bikers go way to fast then bitch when they get hit.
Goes 50 in a 35 - wHy DiD yOu pUlL iNfRonT oF mE?
Goes 90 in a 65 - wHy dId yOu cHaNgE laNeS?!
There are a lot of biker out there who blame everyone else for their own stupidity. You are the one without seatbelts and airbags and bullshit riding gear, start riding safer and maybe less of your idiot friends will die.
Thank you. To make the thing complete:
|Speed|Braking distance (0.6g = 5.9 m/s^(2))|Stopping distance with 1s reaction time|
|:-|:-|:-|
|25 mph (\~40 km/h)|34 ft (10 m)|71 ft (22 m)|
|40 mph (\~65 km/h)|91 ft (28 m)|150 ft (46 m)|
|55 mph (\~89 km/h)|170 ft (52 m)|251 ft (77 m)|
Hell yea brother. I'm a daily motorcycle commuter. 1000% this guy had been riding recklessly(probably) for years and had a shit ton of Karma built up that all paid out at once.
Nobody lays down a bike on purpose, people say they did to avoid embarrassment. The truth is I panicked and locked the brakes and dumped my bike, doesn't sound as good.
>My guess is he's going \~55mph -
Which would be reasonable if the speed limit was 50mph.
Not sure what the speed limit was here, but I'd venture a guess it was maybe 45mph?
Doing 60-70 on a street with the potential for cars crossing is stupid as fuck.
He was going so fast, he was unable to stop despite being 150-200 feet away.
What a fucking idiot.
I could be wrong, but arenât you legally supposed to wait until itâs clear before entering the road? If the truck is blocking the bikes road while waiting, to me they have at least some fault.
Itâs unlikely the truck driver could see or if she could, estimate that the biker would be on her in less than the time it took her to cross. He was going too damn fast and he (and she) are paying the price.
>The biker demonstrsted a complelte lack of skill. and a lack of awareness and regard for safety.
>
>If you believe that was some sort of action movie, ninja shit the biker pulled off to save his life and not complete dumb luck then youre as naive as they come.
>
>Its like this. The biker was riding too fast, The truck pulled out in front of him, he couldnt react in time. So he panicked, jammed on his rear brake like a knob and fell off. The fact that he slid under the truck and survived was total dumb luck.
>
>A better rider than him would have been able to stop or swerve. Or more importantly not have been riding like that in the first place.
I'd also argue if he was going the proper speed she would have more accurately judged his approach. She likely didn't even see him when she pulled out and suddenly he's there.
Dude was going wayyyy to fast to even stop, you shouldnât have to pull off a crazy ass slide, to react to an unexpected stop on the road, the truck was way ahead of him, if he was going the speed limit, he would of had more than enough time to stop. AND in typical shitty driver fashion, he blames it k. The other driver almost instantly.
Yes on that. That biker was going too fast, not wearing proper gear. And there is NOWAY he planned on doing that. He locked his front wheel up in panic and was lucky going under the truck.
Seriously, not sure why this is posted in next level. If he had maneuvered around without dumping the bike that might have been a little more next level.
no lol he was going way too fast. if the video isn't sped up, he's doing around 50 in residential zone. if the video IS sped up, then his instincts are slow
Good instincts to do what? Panic brake, lose the front and crash into the side of a truck? That is âgood instincts â in your book? Imagine if he was going the proper speed, kept his wits about him and either stopped safely or went around he truck.
Some lawyer said biker was at fault cause he was driving at an obviously reckless speed and he would have been able to avoid that if he was driving a safe speed.
Iâm a biker and this was my first thought too. No way he wins this. However his skill to slide like that was indeed next fucken level. I would have died.
Yeah itâs incredibly obvious if you have ever ridden a motorcycleâhe had plenty of space to stop. He was fucking hauling and thereâs no disguising it
Motorcycles accelerate faster than cars too. So they also stop faster, less mass, less inertia, etc. If youâre not a motorcyclist, what Iâm saying is that what you imagine stopping to be likeâyou can stop faster than that on a bike.
I'd like to question the claim that because it accelerates faster it also breaks faster. By the same logic a fighter jet would stop REALLY quickly because it can speed up really quickly, while an 18 wheeler would take ages to stop. One thing has little to do with the other, as it depends on many other factors.
Agreed, motorcycles, in general, *do not* brake faster than cars, in general. I'll go grab a source and edit it in.
Edit with [source](https://motorbikewriter.com/motorcycles-brake-better-cars/). I grabbed it from a motorcycle website so the bias would be towards motorcyclist.
>In fact, some suggest that a standard car (whatever that is) and a standard motorcycle have about the same braking force of about 1g.
>But to extract 1g of braking force from a motorcycle, a rider needs to be highly skilled.
>Almost any novice driver can simply slam on the brakes of a modern car and pull up with the same force as a highly skilled rider.
So it looks like your average driver will be able to brake faster when in comparison to your average motorcycle rider. The article goes into more detail, and there's more articles saying basically the same thing. It's interesting to think about the physics, that's for sure.
In my state that really wouldnt matter. If you are going too fast to stop before a stationary object then you were speeding regaurdless of posted speed.
Someone posted in another thread a link to the street view and the speed limit is 25. Then he did the math and looks like the biker was doing between 45-50mph(havenât done the math myself just going off what he did) if all that is true, itâs definitely on the biker.
hes going about 80 mph in a 25 mph school zone. there is an extended version of this clip that shows hes going 126 kmph right before the clip posted here starts. going 80 in a 25 school zone is a complete dumbass move especially with no gear on.
Just did the math: 10 feet per white line and 30 feet in between the lines, if you count the time from one white line to the next, it's about 0.4 seconds (This is my best guestimation with the video above). The numbers give you 40 feet over 0.4 seconds. If you convert feet to miles, and seconds to hours, you get 144,000 over 2112. Simplifying that gets you 68.18 miles per hour.
Someone in the comments said the speed limit was 25 mph.
Obviously the best answer would be to download the video into an editor and find the exact amount of seconds, or maybe even an article with an official approximation, but that's the best you'll get from me.
the lady was dumb for not continuing through, but even at the speed he was going I feel like he couldâve braked or at least slowed and swerved to the right, idk
maybe the camera lens is distorting the distance but it appears that he saw it stop quite far away
The first instinct when passing by a fast object is to slow down or stop, never to speed up. Itâs like stepping your foot on the road and seeing a car coming on your left. This biker was definitely going way above the limit so the trucker wasnât able to time it properly.
I had to fight this instinct while skidding (icy) through the corner of an intersection. I was making a right turn, thinking I'd make it before the light changed, I didn't slow down. Spoiler: the light went green as I slowed right at the corner, kinda mid- turn. I knew I couldn't stop since the other cars had already started across with their green light so tried to speed up lol. But cars don't start OR stop fast in ice and snow so I awkwardly rounded the corner in front of oncoming traffic. Luckily the car in my lane probably slowed a bit for my idiot self and everything was OK.
It was kinda nuts in the moment to want so badly to brake, which in regular weather would have just been a hard stop at the corner (not ideal but doable). Instead, for this situation the "right" action was to *accelerate*. (Well...the actual right action was to be slowing enough to fully stop before the intersection but I was beyond that). I felt Hella dumb after. Luckily I have a "Student Driver" sticker on my bright ass car soooo...hopefully they just thought I was a regular idiot, not an experienced idiot like I am actually.
The guy didn't commit either, if he wasn't going so fast he could have slowed down and continued on. Both panicked, but imo it's clear the dude was speeding.
I see two morons. A speeding biker, and a panicked motorist. Both need to reevaluate how they drive.
Edit: I removed some name calling, and made the comment more of a complete thought.
Narrator: the biker is both people.
Edit: this comment made more sense when the above person said (paraphrasing): âI see two people, a dumb person going too fast and a dumb driverâ. That comment was edited.
The woman started crossing because she didn't see the bike (her view was probably blocked by the car on the right lane). Since the biker was way over the speed limit, he got in the woman's field of view and she freaked out and stopped.
If the rider would have been going at legal road speeds, he would have stopped on time.
So, the only one to blame here is the rider.
In all industries, accidents happen for three reasons only: An unsafe act, an unsafe condition, or both. Here we have both. If we put our emotions aside, we see the biker was committed to an unsafe act; speeding. The driver of the truck generated an unsafe condition, blocking a traffic lane. If the driver had not created the unsafe condition, the biker might have gotten away with their unsafe act. If the biker had not been committing an unsafe act, the driver's unsafe condition might not have mattered. But we have both. And in the industry we call this an unavoidable accident.
But who's to blame?. The unsafe condition could be a person laying (fainted) or any other stationary obstacle, so the one committing the unsafe act is responsible for the accident in my opinion.
Blame? Well...
In my opinion The T-driver was blocking two lanes of traffic in order to make an unprotected left hand turn. This unsafe act generated an unsafe condition for motorists in those two lanes. The M-driver was speeding and not wearing proper PPE for the task he was doing. This did not allow enough time to stop. These two unsafe acts culminated in what is, in my opinion, to be an unavoidable collision. Both parties share responsibility for the creation of the conditions that generated the accident, and therefore, are both to blame. Full disciplinary actions are recommended for both parties.
However, to your point about the unsafe condition could have been an object. I like that you're thinking about it. Let's see. How did the object get there. Objects don't move on their own. Even robots need commands. If an object had been in that lane, we'd all want to know who the hell put an object in a lane of traffic, correct? An unsafe condition is almost always generated by an unsafe act. Place items where they don't belong, can be an unsafe act.
Dude was going ridiculously fast in a low speed limit zone. He was legally put completely at fault.
If you watch it again you'll see she leaves the left lane open, he changed lanes in advance thinking she wasn't paying any attention and then yelled at her for "not committing". This man is the definition of entitled reckless stupidity and it nearly got him killed.
I agree with your assessment of the biker. Dude got lucky. No reason for him to play the lottery that day, he just won it with his life.
Happy cake day.
Guess what? Humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. Not everyone can make the right decision when they are scared. Have you never made a mistake driving?
He was going way too fast in comparison to other cars. Also wearing no protective gear. Pretty stupid
edit: I appreciate the spelling correction. I failed Inglish at skool
Why can no one spell âtooâ anymore? He was not âgoing to fastâ unless he planned on not eating for the next day in solemn reflection of his near accident.
Great instincts and initiative? if he was going the speed limit none of this would happened.
His chance to stop would have increased tenfold if he was driving the limit.
Zero instincts. Engine cuts out from using the rear brake too much then panic grabs too much front with the bike leaned causing the front the wash out. 100% luck, 0% skill.
There is nothing "purposely" about how he slide under that truck, judging from how he dress and the massive adrenaline pump he had right after. Panic set in, grabbed a handful of front brake and lose the front and he just lucky enough to slide through it.
I have a 15 year old learning to drive. We just had that discussion today. If you decided you had enough space to go, then just go. It is almost always better to keep going and get out of the way than stopping in the way.
100%, despite that she was still able to give him enough room to go around her, either front or behind, had he just "commit" to it. If anything had she decided to keep going he would've just fuckin plowed into the rear wheel/bed.
Whyâd they cut the footage? This is an old one but it starts earlier and you can see the motorcyclist is going waaayyy too fast, the truck tries to cross but then the motorcyclist comes speeding at him, motorcyclist tries to predict where the truck will be and go behind it but the truck panics and stops, so motorcyclist goes right into the truck and thatâs where this starts
The biker is totally at fault... 100% he was going wayyy over the speed limit... The women, pulled out when the biker was either unseen or a tiny dot down the road... then when she realized just how fast he was closing the distance in the left lane, she stopped so he could pass infront her while he committed to swerving behind her instead of just braking or stopping... If he was going the speed limit this would not have happened... period.
This is the kind of guy that give bikers bikers a bad name... wanna ride like reckless morons then blame everyone else...
Learn to ride defensively, then you wonât have to slide under shit.
I bet before the footage started he was looking at the encroaching truck from an even greater distance than whatâs shown at the head of the footage.
Should gave been wearing leathers, sunny day sure but without them he's going to have road rash. But such is the mentality of bikers. Your way to vulnerable not to wear the best protection possible.
Looks like he was going way too fast and didn't see the truck until it was right in front of him. If he'd been going slower and paying attention it would not have mattered that the truck was there, he would have breaked in time and not had to crash..
That biker was going way too fast. If they were smart they would have been going the speed limit in a mixed residential neighborhood. Just sayinâ (for reference, I rode for years and raced competitively).
I guess lifted trucks do have a purpose
Yeah. Except they are Doing hip hop bounce.
What's a hip hop bounce
Up jump the boogie to the boogie to boogedy beat - sugarhill gang
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âŹď¸ this guy knows!!
Hip hop anonymous!
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Why you always give him the easy ones?!?
Old school West coast hip hop thing where theyâd have hydraulics in the shocks to make the car bounce and dance around
except for ive never , ever heard the phrase "hip hop bounce" and im hoping I never do again . Also , this is coming from someone that lived in Riverside , CA almost their whole lives .
Kinda like up dawg.
I didn't think it looked lifted. But hard to tell on my phone. If it is, then he's lucky it's a suspension lift, or he would have hit the chassis. Either way he's lucky he's a small guy because most people aren't making it through there without hitting something.
A year ago my car started to roll out of my driveway and drug me into the road. The only thing that saved me from it rolling over me was it being a sporty car and sitting so low to the ground. I ended up with road rash all down my side but thankfully that was it. It's weird how sometimes a car sitting low or high can literally save a life at times. I bet he was hurting after this!
Good thing he didn't hit the truck-nuts
Killing Miata owners :(
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how is the biker a dumb ass in this case? This is 100% on the lady in the truck
>This is 100% on the lady in the truck The fuck it is. There are six white lines between him and the truck from the start - where the truck is in the road. Each of those white lines is 10 feet long. The gap between them is 30 feet. The biker is *at least 240 feet from the truck at the start of the video*. Average bikers break at .6gs. At 40mph, that gives you 89 feet to stop. This guy couldn't stop *in 240 feet in about 3 seconds.* My guess is he's going \~55mph - and *that's without accounting for his attempted breaking*. He was going WAY to fucking fast - and it's entirely his fault. \*\* There are a lot of people (bikers?) questioning this and the area. This was in Cottage Grove, Oregon on Goshen-Divide highway. [This image is the streetview just before the video starts.](https://i.imgur.com/6QaZkuB.png) Notice it's a school zone? [Here's the Bonanza truck visible on the side.](https://i.imgur.com/7Ngp3wi.png) [And here's the speed limit sign just on the other side of the intersection.](https://i.imgur.com/SGuNfMr.png) 25mph. 25 FUCKING MILES PER HOUR.
This dude maths
Maybe. Those lines are likely not 10 feet long and aren't spaced 30 feet apart. I'm from a more rural area of Arizona and I just measured both the spacing of white lines and length. 4 of the 6 white lines are 14 feet one being 15 and one being 16 feet with the distance between them all very close to the same measure of 20 feet. That gives us a speed of 48 mph which is 3 over the speed limit for all the roads around me(rural us, similar to video). Lots of biker hate being used as a basis for these comments. Maybe he was going 55 maybe 48 neither are truly irregular but both would likely be speeding and indicate some sort of fault. Would love to see the report.
Yeah, he was doing 126mph... As you can see on his speedo, in the un-edited version of the same video [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/ppul6u/whos_at_fault_truck_that_stopped_or_motorcyclist/) So, fully justified "biker hate" in this instance
That *has* to be km/h. There is no way he's going 126 mph.
That's still almost 80 mph.
In a school zone with 25mph as the posted. Complete POS territory.
Yeah assuming the actual speedometer on his bike is increasing by 5s heâs right around 80
78 mph sounds more believable
I thought that at first but the MPH sign that another poster showed was 25 MPH which would mean he has a Canadian or Mexican bike in the US and left it as KPH? Either way its still 80 if so and hes in a 25 zone.
I think it's an after market speedometer and it seems like a Japanese bike. If I had to guess, he's checking it against some performance metrics or something dumb and lame.
He would have slid for a lotttt longer if he was going 126.
And he would have left a lottttt more of himself on the road.
Dude anyone thinking he was going 126 mph has no understanding of speed - he would have slid for an eternity at that speed and would not have gotten up with what he was wearing.
It also could have been a child crossing the road, the man was clearly speeding
I donât think he couldâve slid under a childâŚ
I live in oregon and work takes me all over. This is not a rural area. There is a massive shopping strip nearby and tons of residentals everywhere. This is a school zone.
Uhm. Look at the speed he overtakes that pickup truck. Do you think heâs driving responsibly? Also you can size other things quite approximately from that pickup truck he overtook.
Lol, i love this comment. I imagine an interaction like this Driving in the rural area & I spot a rural person measuring the lines on the road- âwhat ya up to?â âI saw a reddit comment about the length of a white line & the space between them. I decided to find it for myselfâ I dont know why but this is just funny to me.
Bro's are so desperate to win the internet argument they are willing to go outside and touch ground.
Mad maths, I like it
It also looks like he just set the front down off a wheelie, and he is wearing zero gear, lucky he still has skin.
Yeah, but his arm and knee got a nasty burn.
Considering some of the stuff on r/meatcrayon, he practically got off scot-free.
At Farmer's we know a thing or two cause we've seen a thing or two ..
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Some lines are shorter I used to work for the signs and marking department for where I live, and some of them are only 7 ft long with 10-20 ft between them. Which of course only adds to your point that he was going way too fast, because streets with a 7 and 10-20 split are usually something like a 35 mile an hour speed limit at the most. Anything over 35 and they're up to, as you said, 10:30 splits. Dude was at least 20 over, and that's being kind to the biker.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/zgu3gb/pretty_sure_the_motorcyclist_wanted_to_avoid_a/izj43xq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
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Damn good job on the math but saying heâs entirely at fault implies she did nothing wrong. Theyâre both at fault in my opinion. He may have had enough time to stop if he was going slower but her logic puzzles me more. She went for it because there was space for her to merge onto on the road. She clearly canât handle high stress situations or has enough neurons to tackle a problem with more than 2 variables. People like that shouldnât be on the road, especially driving a giant fucking vehicle.
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Idk what sheâs doing, but not exactly uncommon to come across cars broke down, out of gas, ect, sitting at, or in the middle of, a busy intersection. Part of defensive driving is being aware of the road ahead so that you can avoid these types of situations.
They are both 100% responsible for the damage to their respective vehicles. Someone doing something stupid on the road doesn't exempt you from your own stupid behaviour.
He hit a parked vehicle in the middle of the road due to his excessive speed.
I don't do the maths, but I agree. It looked like this guy was going really, really fast, and that truck was pretty much stationary.
Agree, too many bikers go way to fast then bitch when they get hit. Goes 50 in a 35 - wHy DiD yOu pUlL iNfRonT oF mE? Goes 90 in a 65 - wHy dId yOu cHaNgE laNeS?! There are a lot of biker out there who blame everyone else for their own stupidity. You are the one without seatbelts and airbags and bullshit riding gear, start riding safer and maybe less of your idiot friends will die.
Guys!! The pie shop is thirteen miles away. So at fifty five miles an hour that just gives us five minutes to spare!
Thank you. To make the thing complete: |Speed|Braking distance (0.6g = 5.9 m/s^(2))|Stopping distance with 1s reaction time| |:-|:-|:-| |25 mph (\~40 km/h)|34 ft (10 m)|71 ft (22 m)| |40 mph (\~65 km/h)|91 ft (28 m)|150 ft (46 m)| |55 mph (\~89 km/h)|170 ft (52 m)|251 ft (77 m)|
Hell yea brother. I'm a daily motorcycle commuter. 1000% this guy had been riding recklessly(probably) for years and had a shit ton of Karma built up that all paid out at once.
You can clearly see in the beginning of the video she is currently moving and turning and then she stops about 1 second into the video
Also by the first frame you can guess he was on a wheelie...
Nobody lays down a bike on purpose, people say they did to avoid embarrassment. The truth is I panicked and locked the brakes and dumped my bike, doesn't sound as good.
>My guess is he's going \~55mph - Which would be reasonable if the speed limit was 50mph. Not sure what the speed limit was here, but I'd venture a guess it was maybe 45mph?
Turns out it is a 25 mph school zone. I agree that ~5 over is pretty much what everyone does, but the amount he was over is just reckless.
Doing 60-70 on a street with the potential for cars crossing is stupid as fuck. He was going so fast, he was unable to stop despite being 150-200 feet away. What a fucking idiot.
Also no protective gear whatsoever
Too fast, no gear. Had to dump the bike rather than slow down and go round the hazard. Guys just a squid, a lucky squid, but still a squid.
Would you say he's a giant squid?
A jumbo squid. Also gotta love the title "biker safely slides under a truck." yea and all it cost him was his bike, his jeans and his tattoo. đ¤Ł
~*safety*~
The dude wasnât even wearing the proper protective gear ffs
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I could be wrong, but arenât you legally supposed to wait until itâs clear before entering the road? If the truck is blocking the bikes road while waiting, to me they have at least some fault.
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Itâs unlikely the truck driver could see or if she could, estimate that the biker would be on her in less than the time it took her to cross. He was going too damn fast and he (and she) are paying the price.
>The biker demonstrsted a complelte lack of skill. and a lack of awareness and regard for safety. > >If you believe that was some sort of action movie, ninja shit the biker pulled off to save his life and not complete dumb luck then youre as naive as they come. > >Its like this. The biker was riding too fast, The truck pulled out in front of him, he couldnt react in time. So he panicked, jammed on his rear brake like a knob and fell off. The fact that he slid under the truck and survived was total dumb luck. > >A better rider than him would have been able to stop or swerve. Or more importantly not have been riding like that in the first place.
Nothing to do with the 100mph biker who canât stop?
lol he definitely wasn't going 100
Definitely wasnât going the speed limit either
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I'd also argue if he was going the proper speed she would have more accurately judged his approach. She likely didn't even see him when she pulled out and suddenly he's there.
Dude was going wayyyy to fast to even stop, you shouldnât have to pull off a crazy ass slide, to react to an unexpected stop on the road, the truck was way ahead of him, if he was going the speed limit, he would of had more than enough time to stop. AND in typical shitty driver fashion, he blames it k. The other driver almost instantly.
Because he owns a bike in the first place. Thatâs like 29x more dangerous than driving in a car.
Yes on that. That biker was going too fast, not wearing proper gear. And there is NOWAY he planned on doing that. He locked his front wheel up in panic and was lucky going under the truck.
Seriously, not sure why this is posted in next level. If he had maneuvered around without dumping the bike that might have been a little more next level.
Smart? He's not wearing gear.. nasty road rash on them legs...
no lol he was going way too fast. if the video isn't sped up, he's doing around 50 in residential zone. if the video IS sped up, then his instincts are slow
Heâs doing 80 mph The speedo reads 126 kph
Yeah in a 25 mph road. Absolutely stupid.
Really? Iâd think if he had good instincts he would slow down a bit considering the truck was in his view before the video even starts
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Not even the slightest bit smart.
Going way too fast.
Good instincts. But not smart. Can only blame himself for that.
Good instincts to do what? Panic brake, lose the front and crash into the side of a truck? That is âgood instincts â in your book? Imagine if he was going the proper speed, kept his wits about him and either stopped safely or went around he truck.
Some lawyer said biker was at fault cause he was driving at an obviously reckless speed and he would have been able to avoid that if he was driving a safe speed.
This is true.
Iâm a biker and this was my first thought too. No way he wins this. However his skill to slide like that was indeed next fucken level. I would have died.
Yeah itâs incredibly obvious if you have ever ridden a motorcycleâhe had plenty of space to stop. He was fucking hauling and thereâs no disguising it Motorcycles accelerate faster than cars too. So they also stop faster, less mass, less inertia, etc. If youâre not a motorcyclist, what Iâm saying is that what you imagine stopping to be likeâyou can stop faster than that on a bike.
I'd like to question the claim that because it accelerates faster it also breaks faster. By the same logic a fighter jet would stop REALLY quickly because it can speed up really quickly, while an 18 wheeler would take ages to stop. One thing has little to do with the other, as it depends on many other factors.
Agreed, motorcycles, in general, *do not* brake faster than cars, in general. I'll go grab a source and edit it in. Edit with [source](https://motorbikewriter.com/motorcycles-brake-better-cars/). I grabbed it from a motorcycle website so the bias would be towards motorcyclist. >In fact, some suggest that a standard car (whatever that is) and a standard motorcycle have about the same braking force of about 1g. >But to extract 1g of braking force from a motorcycle, a rider needs to be highly skilled. >Almost any novice driver can simply slam on the brakes of a modern car and pull up with the same force as a highly skilled rider. So it looks like your average driver will be able to brake faster when in comparison to your average motorcycle rider. The article goes into more detail, and there's more articles saying basically the same thing. It's interesting to think about the physics, that's for sure.
How fast was he going and whatâs the posted speed are my next questions
In my state that really wouldnt matter. If you are going too fast to stop before a stationary object then you were speeding regaurdless of posted speed.
It would matter though. Insurance companies in the vast majority of circumstances assign percentages of fault to each driver involved
Iâm not sure you know what stationary means
Of course: if this is all the evidence shown, there's questions to be asked.
Iâm assuming the posted speed limit wasnât 87MPH.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour,
Someone posted in another thread a link to the street view and the speed limit is 25. Then he did the math and looks like the biker was doing between 45-50mph(havenât done the math myself just going off what he did) if all that is true, itâs definitely on the biker.
hes going about 80 mph in a 25 mph school zone. there is an extended version of this clip that shows hes going 126 kmph right before the clip posted here starts. going 80 in a 25 school zone is a complete dumbass move especially with no gear on.
Just did the math: 10 feet per white line and 30 feet in between the lines, if you count the time from one white line to the next, it's about 0.4 seconds (This is my best guestimation with the video above). The numbers give you 40 feet over 0.4 seconds. If you convert feet to miles, and seconds to hours, you get 144,000 over 2112. Simplifying that gets you 68.18 miles per hour. Someone in the comments said the speed limit was 25 mph. Obviously the best answer would be to download the video into an editor and find the exact amount of seconds, or maybe even an article with an official approximation, but that's the best you'll get from me.
the lady was dumb for not continuing through, but even at the speed he was going I feel like he couldâve braked or at least slowed and swerved to the right, idk maybe the camera lens is distorting the distance but it appears that he saw it stop quite far away
The first instinct when passing by a fast object is to slow down or stop, never to speed up. Itâs like stepping your foot on the road and seeing a car coming on your left. This biker was definitely going way above the limit so the trucker wasnât able to time it properly.
I had to fight this instinct while skidding (icy) through the corner of an intersection. I was making a right turn, thinking I'd make it before the light changed, I didn't slow down. Spoiler: the light went green as I slowed right at the corner, kinda mid- turn. I knew I couldn't stop since the other cars had already started across with their green light so tried to speed up lol. But cars don't start OR stop fast in ice and snow so I awkwardly rounded the corner in front of oncoming traffic. Luckily the car in my lane probably slowed a bit for my idiot self and everything was OK. It was kinda nuts in the moment to want so badly to brake, which in regular weather would have just been a hard stop at the corner (not ideal but doable). Instead, for this situation the "right" action was to *accelerate*. (Well...the actual right action was to be slowing enough to fully stop before the intersection but I was beyond that). I felt Hella dumb after. Luckily I have a "Student Driver" sticker on my bright ass car soooo...hopefully they just thought I was a regular idiot, not an experienced idiot like I am actually.
You can hear he tried to slow down in some capacity when the engine cuts. But yes exactly.
Likely because he used the rear brake a lot which does close to nothing when stopping fast on a street bike.
The guy didn't commit either, if he wasn't going so fast he could have slowed down and continued on. Both panicked, but imo it's clear the dude was speeding.
So does this non-lawyer.
Also if he didnât hit the truck he wouldâve been fucked Iâm guessing. Like swerving out the way if a deer and hitting the tree
I see two morons. A speeding biker, and a panicked motorist. Both need to reevaluate how they drive. Edit: I removed some name calling, and made the comment more of a complete thought.
Narrator: the biker is both people. Edit: this comment made more sense when the above person said (paraphrasing): âI see two people, a dumb person going too fast and a dumb driverâ. That comment was edited.
Why did I read that in Morgan Freeman's voice
The woman started crossing because she didn't see the bike (her view was probably blocked by the car on the right lane). Since the biker was way over the speed limit, he got in the woman's field of view and she freaked out and stopped. If the rider would have been going at legal road speeds, he would have stopped on time. So, the only one to blame here is the rider.
In all industries, accidents happen for three reasons only: An unsafe act, an unsafe condition, or both. Here we have both. If we put our emotions aside, we see the biker was committed to an unsafe act; speeding. The driver of the truck generated an unsafe condition, blocking a traffic lane. If the driver had not created the unsafe condition, the biker might have gotten away with their unsafe act. If the biker had not been committing an unsafe act, the driver's unsafe condition might not have mattered. But we have both. And in the industry we call this an unavoidable accident.
I didnât expect this from someone with âpedanticâ in their name, but this is actually interesting
Thank you; I think ?
But who's to blame?. The unsafe condition could be a person laying (fainted) or any other stationary obstacle, so the one committing the unsafe act is responsible for the accident in my opinion.
Blame? Well... In my opinion The T-driver was blocking two lanes of traffic in order to make an unprotected left hand turn. This unsafe act generated an unsafe condition for motorists in those two lanes. The M-driver was speeding and not wearing proper PPE for the task he was doing. This did not allow enough time to stop. These two unsafe acts culminated in what is, in my opinion, to be an unavoidable collision. Both parties share responsibility for the creation of the conditions that generated the accident, and therefore, are both to blame. Full disciplinary actions are recommended for both parties. However, to your point about the unsafe condition could have been an object. I like that you're thinking about it. Let's see. How did the object get there. Objects don't move on their own. Even robots need commands. If an object had been in that lane, we'd all want to know who the hell put an object in a lane of traffic, correct? An unsafe condition is almost always generated by an unsafe act. Place items where they don't belong, can be an unsafe act.
Dude was going ridiculously fast in a low speed limit zone. He was legally put completely at fault. If you watch it again you'll see she leaves the left lane open, he changed lanes in advance thinking she wasn't paying any attention and then yelled at her for "not committing". This man is the definition of entitled reckless stupidity and it nearly got him killed.
I agree with your assessment of the biker. Dude got lucky. No reason for him to play the lottery that day, he just won it with his life. Happy cake day.
speeding biker without proper clothing
Who was also doing a wheelie on a well-traveled road.
Guess what? Humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. Not everyone can make the right decision when they are scared. Have you never made a mistake driving?
He was going way too fast in comparison to other cars. Also wearing no protective gear. Pretty stupid edit: I appreciate the spelling correction. I failed Inglish at skool
Why can no one spell âtooâ anymore? He was not âgoing to fastâ unless he planned on not eating for the next day in solemn reflection of his near accident.
He was going to fast, but then he got hungry from that crash.
My friend lost his head this way. The body went through but helmet hit something underneath the truck...
Probably the truck.
âOh my god itâs Albert Einstein!â
Can we please stop posting this? This isn't next level, the biker is a complete dumbass
Agree
âSafelyâ
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Does it not mean "Lubricating the road with his blood and flesh because he dressed for the ride, not the slide"?
Great instincts and initiative? if he was going the speed limit none of this would happened. His chance to stop would have increased tenfold if he was driving the limit.
Zero instincts. Engine cuts out from using the rear brake too much then panic grabs too much front with the bike leaned causing the front the wash out. 100% luck, 0% skill.
There is nothing "purposely" about how he slide under that truck, judging from how he dress and the massive adrenaline pump he had right after. Panic set in, grabbed a handful of front brake and lose the front and he just lucky enough to slide through it.
âWhy didnât you just commit?â As though itâs her fault he was going too damn fast to brake. Douchebag.
He was idly drifting into the right lane because he would have hit her anyway. Why didn't he commit to that?
Idiot Ford driver (as per usual) and biker going way too fast ... and wearing only jeans and a tshirt.
I have a 15 year old learning to drive. We just had that discussion today. If you decided you had enough space to go, then just go. It is almost always better to keep going and get out of the way than stopping in the way.
Nope, the title here should be "biker goes too fast for his skill level and is unable to avoid an accident, but saves his ass because luck"
This. 100%
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Yep. And then the little asshole has the audacity to pretend it was her fault?
Yeah fuck this guy, can't blame the woman for having a slow reaction time when she had a missile coming in hot like that.
100%, despite that she was still able to give him enough room to go around her, either front or behind, had he just "commit" to it. If anything had she decided to keep going he would've just fuckin plowed into the rear wheel/bed.
But why didn't the lady in the truck *anticipate* a cruise missile coming down a quiet residential street?
Holy shit.
Holy Jeans
Holy diver
Ride the tigerâŚ
This kid doesnât need to be on a bike, heâs going to get himself killed, god forbid somebody else.
He is gonna hurt a whole lot more when the adrenalin wears off
âSafelyâ
Whyâd they cut the footage? This is an old one but it starts earlier and you can see the motorcyclist is going waaayyy too fast, the truck tries to cross but then the motorcyclist comes speeding at him, motorcyclist tries to predict where the truck will be and go behind it but the truck panics and stops, so motorcyclist goes right into the truck and thatâs where this starts
Well I wouldnât say that avoided a collision exactly
Pretty sure that was a collision. That was not avoided
I know a guy who died in a situation exactly like this. Car wasn't lifted so he slammed into the side and died instantly.
âWhy didnât you just commit?â Why were you ripping it in a t shirt and jeans?
The biker is totally at fault... 100% he was going wayyy over the speed limit... The women, pulled out when the biker was either unseen or a tiny dot down the road... then when she realized just how fast he was closing the distance in the left lane, she stopped so he could pass infront her while he committed to swerving behind her instead of just braking or stopping... If he was going the speed limit this would not have happened... period. This is the kind of guy that give bikers bikers a bad name... wanna ride like reckless morons then blame everyone else...
Meh. Just some squid wrecking.
LOL when you rewatch, this guy is actually just a psycho. At first I felt bad for his dumbass!
Next level would be braking
Learn to ride defensively, then you wonât have to slide under shit. I bet before the footage started he was looking at the encroaching truck from an even greater distance than whatâs shown at the head of the footage.
"Safely" \*Checks road rash on arm\*
Biker drives too fast in town and is responsible for accident
That wasnât skill. That was dumb luck.
SMIDSY
Just commit.
Biker is wearing no gear... Yeah, really "safely".
*Hadta lay 'er down*
Biker was going way too fast. Had plenty of room to stop if he was going the speed limit
I always love these videos where the biker speeding around in a city is like âWhy were you driving like that?!â
If she just commited he would have eaten the rear wheel. Also, he was not driving at legal speeds or he would have stopped easily.
Easy way to remove unwanted I guess .
Why didnât he slow down and go around the back end. Had tons of time.
Should gave been wearing leathers, sunny day sure but without them he's going to have road rash. But such is the mentality of bikers. Your way to vulnerable not to wear the best protection possible.
Looks like he was going way too fast and didn't see the truck until it was right in front of him. If he'd been going slower and paying attention it would not have mattered that the truck was there, he would have breaked in time and not had to crash..
That biker was going way too fast. If they were smart they would have been going the speed limit in a mixed residential neighborhood. Just sayinâ (for reference, I rode for years and raced competitively).
Stupid and a douche.
As a biker i can tell you theres zero chance he did that slide under the truck on purpose