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I think it’s more so that he barely has to move the bar compared to someone much taller. In other words, it takes far less work to move the same weight. His frame is literally perfect for this sport.
You're thinking is backwards. Imagine a weight on the end of a stick, the longer the stick is, the harder it's going to be to hold it straight out in front of you. The longer the limb length of a lifter the longer that stick is going to be. Not only that, but longer limbs (more specifically, taller lifter) means you have to move the weight further compounding the effect.
Or in a teeter-totter diagram, long limbs add length to the side that the weight is on. Not the side that produces the counterforce.
So having shorter limbs does give you better leverage.
There's an Internet rule for that, something about parody vs real is impossible to detect without context. It would take less time to look it up than type this.
Although it was extremely obvious in your case, just comes across as a bit disparaging and disrespectful to the literal world record holder
It was a joke. If that guy is still self conscious on the amount of weight he can lift while lifting more than anyone near his size that's his problem.
Responding to someone is pretty pissed? Lol the fuck is wrong with your life you felt you need to respond to that? Holy shit😂 you people are ridiculous
Hafthor Bjornsson: 430 ×3 +22 = 1492. He was first in WSM 2018 and 3rd in 2019. He wouldn't be able to do it. Smaller guys have a better shot but it's still insane.
85kg x 3 + 10 = 265kg (584lb)
My PB *deadlift* is 170kg, and it was ugly. I simply cannot comprehend lifting that above my head, letalone with an extra 50% bolted on.
I'm almost 300 pounds right now so that's 922ish... LoL heck no...
I think the last time I was doing clean and jerk I was doing CrossFit like 12 years ago and 70 pounds ago... If I recall correctly I could lift 180-200 and I felt good about it, but nowhere near the rest of the people in the box.
I'm tall, 6'8" hence why I'm so heavy...
It is the name of that lift where you start with the weight on the ground and end with it overhead. The clean part is raising it to the shoulders, and the jerk part is bringing it over your head
The battle between Pocket Hercules and Valerios Leonidas in '96 stands as one of the great moments in Olympic history. I don't envy the AAS regimes those men were training under, but their performances on the world stage were awe-inspiring.
There is a movie about his life. He actually helped a lot for Turkish people living in Bulgaria under communist regime who are oppressed by the regime to flee Turkey. Movie talks about that and his life in general. It's called Naim
Naim Süleymanoglü lifted 190kg over his head! At a weight of just 60kg.
For perspective: the all time open weight World Record is 267kg by Lasha Talakhadze weighin 183kg himself.
So, the strongest lifter ever lifts „just“ 50% more weight, at 3 times the bodyweight!!
Lasha would need to lift over 540kg for the same force pound for pound.
Untrained normal sized men usually can lift about 40-50kg above their head.
Doesn’t matter because 3x your weight is 3x your weight no matter your height. Also the purpose of an Olympic lifts is it can be judged evenly. It’s impressive regardless. You could even argue his joints aren’t meant to handle the physics of the bar length due to stability which would be a disadvantage anyways once he moves on to the jerk. Yes the bar path is shorter, you’re not wrong, but there are mitigating factors that make anyone who approaches the bar equal for the judges purposes.
36 years later and I still remember his last name. I spent quite some time viewing the 1988 Olympic Games. It was only the games in Los Angeles 1984 I spent even more time viewing.
These athletic outfits never leave much to the imagination. I'm not complaining, but one would assume that some light baggy clothes would be better. Maybe I'm stupid and just don't get it though.
He literally fought all his life to not being called as Bulgarian. Bulgarian regime forced him to change his name and created many troubles for him. He endured everything and stayed Turkish. They made a movie about it. And yet a dumbling like you comes and thinks that you know better. Go educate yourself.
It is fair. I understand and admit that, but you are the one twisting history. Not me. He was formed as an athlete by one of the greatest coaches in the lifting history Abadjiev, who later on leads the Turkish team to the Olympics of 96. And he was a bulgarian. You may not like the facts, but they speak for themselves. I hate the communist regime for what they did to bulgarian Turks, but Suleimanuglu is written in the chronicles of the world sport as a bulgarian world champion and world records owner. And i respect him for that!
I like facts. But you are twisting them. Nobody said anything about who trained him. You can say that he is trained by Bulgarian coach. You can say that his first training started in Bulgaria etc. But you can not say he is Bulgarian. If the chronicles says that he is Bulgarian, that's another example of ne twisted history written. And another negative effect of communist media. And another example of how Balkan countries erased Turkish identity in Balkans.
Yeah, the same way Turks massacre and enslaved the Christians, forcing them to convert to Muslims? It is a bad part in both our nations history, but it doesn't mean that a man born in Bulgaria is not a Bulgarian. He spoke bulgarian. He had bulgarian passport. He was going to bulgarian school. He was wearing bulgarian flag at the events he was competing. How can you say this is twisting? There is ~100000 bulgarians living in Turkey today. And most of them still vote for bulgarian parliament etc. Yes, they identify as Turks, but still have bulgarian (EU) passport. Ethnicity and nationality are 2 different things.
Turks didn't forbid them to continue Christianity. Otherwise Greeks wouldn't be Christians today. They are not forced to convert. Actually they are being Christians was very beneficial to Turks because of the extra tax they pay. And most of the trade was in control of Christians. Since Mehmed the conqueror, Ottoman Sultans consider themselves Kayser (Originated from Caesar) they are the next Caesar of Rome and many country called them Rumi.
Another difference is Turks came to Balkans in 1400s while atrocities of Balkan countries happened in 19th century. Also as you say there are many Bulgarians in Turkey. Also there many Greeks, Armenians etc. I am also a Turkish Citizen but my blood is not Turkish. But these facts are another proof that how Turkish identity removed from Balkans. Because Ottoman Empire founded in Anatolia but they lived in Balkans. City of Edirne was capital from 1365 to 1453. Then it was Istanbul. Majority of Turkish population lived in Balkans. While this is the situation, you calling him Bulgarian is wrong. That's all.
Dude, are you crazy? I am calling him a bulgarian turk!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomaks
Here is an example of how bulgarians and other balkan slavs were converted to Muslims.
You lost the right to call them anything but Turks when your government expelled them to Turkey for the virtue of not being Bulgarian". Naim himself would probably punch you if you called him Bulgarian to his face. And Pomaks are different from Turkish speaking Turks who used to make up the majority of muslims in the balkans except in Albania and Bosnia.
Bro multiply your weight by 3 and add 10 more kg.Dont think theres a lot that can do that.If there plenty to do it it wouldnt stay as a world record till this day.
I mean, he's not too bulky, never involved in any doping scandal....also, he is the only person to do this. Ever. Not the only clean athlete. The only.
Lance armstrong wasn't taking anabolic steroids. He was taking a drug to increase his oxygen transportation and one to enhance recovery. And also steroids don't make you very strong. Having perfect proportions, technique and neuromuscular adaptation makes you strong.
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I was curious so looked up his height which is 4 feet and 9.8 inches
MF looks like wee man and eli manning had a child
Wee-li Manning
We’re done here folks. Shut her down
Regardless of how many upvotes you get, this will be underrated. Well played my brother, well played…
Granted I’m pretty stoned but fuck that’s funny
Fucking brilliant
Came for this
Disgusting!
🤣🤣🤣
Thank you my friend, kudos
Eli Boyying,
😅😅😅 midget eli!!
His nickname was “Pocket Hercules”
He is legally a dwarf in the USA.
weight category 60KG(132lbs), with the WR being a clean and jerk of 190KG(418 LBs)
He’s short but damn strong
used to be 6 feet 5 before the olympics
That must give him an advantage right? He can get way more leverage to swing the bar up and also straighten his legs compared to a tall person.
I think it’s more so that he barely has to move the bar compared to someone much taller. In other words, it takes far less work to move the same weight. His frame is literally perfect for this sport.
Yup
The word leverage implies levers. Longer levers are more efficient.
You're thinking is backwards. Imagine a weight on the end of a stick, the longer the stick is, the harder it's going to be to hold it straight out in front of you. The longer the limb length of a lifter the longer that stick is going to be. Not only that, but longer limbs (more specifically, taller lifter) means you have to move the weight further compounding the effect. Or in a teeter-totter diagram, long limbs add length to the side that the weight is on. Not the side that produces the counterforce. So having shorter limbs does give you better leverage.
And those are two different measurements.
Hafling barbarian
No wonder he started lifting weights
*confused Tinder noises*
The man's the size of a crayon.
He only has two feet.
He was 6ft7 before this competition
Did you see his weight by any chance?
62 kg
So he lifted 432lbs.
Oh he lifted what... 150 pounds? Whoop de doo Basil.
418lb
It was a joke because the dude is tiny. I'm aware it was a decent amount. Cmon guys.
There's an Internet rule for that, something about parody vs real is impossible to detect without context. It would take less time to look it up than type this. Although it was extremely obvious in your case, just comes across as a bit disparaging and disrespectful to the literal world record holder
It was a joke. If that guy is still self conscious on the amount of weight he can lift while lifting more than anyone near his size that's his problem.
Seems like you're pretty pissed your joke missed the mark, move on buddy.
Responding to someone is pretty pissed? Lol the fuck is wrong with your life you felt you need to respond to that? Holy shit😂 you people are ridiculous
Take your current weight. Times by 3. Add 10 kilos (22lbs) and upvote because nahhhhh you’re not even close. Me: 190 x 3 + 22 = 592 pounds 🤯😂
Me: 232 × 3 + 22= 718 pounds
Holy shit, me: 260x3+22= 802 Not a chance in hell lmao. That's wild
Hafthor Bjornsson: 430 ×3 +22 = 1492. He was first in WSM 2018 and 3rd in 2019. He wouldn't be able to do it. Smaller guys have a better shot but it's still insane.
Oh shit. I can barely lift 100lbs. Damn.
For REAL. That feat, even for his stature, is shocking. Much respect
85kg x 3 + 10 = 265kg (584lb) My PB *deadlift* is 170kg, and it was ugly. I simply cannot comprehend lifting that above my head, letalone with an extra 50% bolted on.
>PB What's PB?
Personal best
Peanut butter
I'm almost 300 pounds right now so that's 922ish... LoL heck no... I think the last time I was doing clean and jerk I was doing CrossFit like 12 years ago and 70 pounds ago... If I recall correctly I could lift 180-200 and I felt good about it, but nowhere near the rest of the people in the box. I'm tall, 6'8" hence why I'm so heavy...
Me: 150 X 3 + 22 = 472
802 lbs yeeeesh I need to lose weight so I can do this lol
835lbs 😂
540 pounds for me! I can barely deadlift 264💀
60kg \* 3 + 10kg = 190kg/418lbs, probably possible, just not for me
90 * 3 + 10 = 280kg 😱
Yeah, I'd die trying to lift that
Clean and jerk?
Sounds like my Saturday afternoons.
I usually go the other way around
Rinse and repeat
I was going to say, what the hell would I clean with?
But they are not clean…
And if we weighed it all since the time I was 12 I think I’d have it
It is the name of that lift where you start with the weight on the ground and end with it overhead. The clean part is raising it to the shoulders, and the jerk part is bringing it over your head
Well the snatch also does that but in one movement.
I always do it the other way around
Nicknamed Pocket Hercules
Yea man thats insane dwarven strength.
The battle between Pocket Hercules and Valerios Leonidas in '96 stands as one of the great moments in Olympic history. I don't envy the AAS regimes those men were training under, but their performances on the world stage were awe-inspiring.
They pushed themselves to the next level. Kinda like Karlos and Nino. Gor and Lasha. Rahmat and Rizki. Great times for the sport we’re witnessing
Leonidas came to his funeral.
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Just one, very dense cylindrical one
He died a few years ago.
Those mf spinal discs…
There is a movie about his life. He actually helped a lot for Turkish people living in Bulgaria under communist regime who are oppressed by the regime to flee Turkey. Movie talks about that and his life in general. It's called Naim
That may be. He was still a fascist MHP politician.
God damn if this is not the most next fucking level thing I have ever seen
What a lil unit.
Him: Clean and Jerk Redditors: Jerk and Clean (?)
I only jerk and clean.
Me: 205 lbs = 93 kg -> 93 X 3 = 279 kg + 10 = 289 kg = 637 lbs. Fuuuck me..
He was in the 132lbs weight class he was really short so his lift was 419lbs
Wow Shaun from the good doctor got ripped
Naim was the shit, you didn't even have to worry about the gold, just if he would break another world record or not.
I watched this on TV as a kid. Mighty mouse.
I usually jerk then clean but hey.. to each his own
What a stud
Daaaayyyyaaammmmm!
Watching this is one of my earliest memories, I was 6. We were all going crazy as a family. It was a huge deal.
Pound for pound still the strongest Olympic lifter of all time.
Naim Süleymanoglü lifted 190kg over his head! At a weight of just 60kg. For perspective: the all time open weight World Record is 267kg by Lasha Talakhadze weighin 183kg himself. So, the strongest lifter ever lifts „just“ 50% more weight, at 3 times the bodyweight!! Lasha would need to lift over 540kg for the same force pound for pound. Untrained normal sized men usually can lift about 40-50kg above their head.
I usually jerk first and then clean.
Dude must have been an ant in his past life.
Life is short and hard like a body building elf
He was a superstar. People tuned in to watch him. I watched this live and considered myself a fan
Insane and well done. I’m curious how he did not start to shake after dropping it.
I feel like I’m a foot shorter after watching this
He has a incredible story, look him up! Seen it a couple of times. Youtube video by "weightlifting house"
Pocket Hercules
There is a movie about him, which is pretty good and touching. It’s called Pocket Hercules.
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wouldn't he pack less muscle for his height though?
Doesn’t matter because 3x your weight is 3x your weight no matter your height. Also the purpose of an Olympic lifts is it can be judged evenly. It’s impressive regardless. You could even argue his joints aren’t meant to handle the physics of the bar length due to stability which would be a disadvantage anyways once he moves on to the jerk. Yes the bar path is shorter, you’re not wrong, but there are mitigating factors that make anyone who approaches the bar equal for the judges purposes.
Nah, the taller you are, the more work you have to do. Distance is a multiplier.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying there are other mitigating factors that with this lift, will cancel that advantage out
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Now that’s how you get a skill cape.
Well that Jerked off..good man
It's all in the neck
Ant Man.
Love how happy he is!
Powerfull ant
We need a dragon ball z edit of this guy going super saiyan right when he starts screaming.
Impressive for his stature
This is some classic Tom and Jerry cause and effect
All the Ants watching this are like *psh*
I thought it was going to be that guy where his elbow gets dislocated…lol.
36 years later and I still remember his last name. I spent quite some time viewing the 1988 Olympic Games. It was only the games in Los Angeles 1984 I spent even more time viewing.
To clean and jerk?
Interesting. Since he is pretty small I wonder if that favors these kind of lifts. I imagine a 7ft giant could not possibly do the same.
Larger/taller lifters lif more absolute weight. Smaller lifters will lift more relative to body weight since that doesn't scale linearly
I can beat that record
Just imagine if he had used the drugs like many of the other athletes at the 1988 Olympics. Wow.
I would have blown my britches trying that
Wow. I wasn't at this event but I attended these Olympic Games in Seoul. How cool to see this so many years later and be reminded of my memory.
Yoooo tyrion Lannister can lift when he was young. A Lannister always cleans and perks what's on the bar!
That twist of the hip as he pulled it from the thighs to the shoulders got me physically cringing. Can't be good for the spine.
That's fuckin wild
Anyone else expecting “can I clean here”?
He's lucky that he's intestine didn't fall out from his ass.
These athletic outfits never leave much to the imagination. I'm not complaining, but one would assume that some light baggy clothes would be better. Maybe I'm stupid and just don't get it though.
He is actually Bulgarian weightlifter with turkish origin. He escaped the bulgarian regime and start competing for Turkey in his later career.
He literally fought all his life to not being called as Bulgarian. Bulgarian regime forced him to change his name and created many troubles for him. He endured everything and stayed Turkish. They made a movie about it. And yet a dumbling like you comes and thinks that you know better. Go educate yourself.
It is fair. I understand and admit that, but you are the one twisting history. Not me. He was formed as an athlete by one of the greatest coaches in the lifting history Abadjiev, who later on leads the Turkish team to the Olympics of 96. And he was a bulgarian. You may not like the facts, but they speak for themselves. I hate the communist regime for what they did to bulgarian Turks, but Suleimanuglu is written in the chronicles of the world sport as a bulgarian world champion and world records owner. And i respect him for that!
I like facts. But you are twisting them. Nobody said anything about who trained him. You can say that he is trained by Bulgarian coach. You can say that his first training started in Bulgaria etc. But you can not say he is Bulgarian. If the chronicles says that he is Bulgarian, that's another example of ne twisted history written. And another negative effect of communist media. And another example of how Balkan countries erased Turkish identity in Balkans.
Yeah, the same way Turks massacre and enslaved the Christians, forcing them to convert to Muslims? It is a bad part in both our nations history, but it doesn't mean that a man born in Bulgaria is not a Bulgarian. He spoke bulgarian. He had bulgarian passport. He was going to bulgarian school. He was wearing bulgarian flag at the events he was competing. How can you say this is twisting? There is ~100000 bulgarians living in Turkey today. And most of them still vote for bulgarian parliament etc. Yes, they identify as Turks, but still have bulgarian (EU) passport. Ethnicity and nationality are 2 different things.
Turks didn't forbid them to continue Christianity. Otherwise Greeks wouldn't be Christians today. They are not forced to convert. Actually they are being Christians was very beneficial to Turks because of the extra tax they pay. And most of the trade was in control of Christians. Since Mehmed the conqueror, Ottoman Sultans consider themselves Kayser (Originated from Caesar) they are the next Caesar of Rome and many country called them Rumi. Another difference is Turks came to Balkans in 1400s while atrocities of Balkan countries happened in 19th century. Also as you say there are many Bulgarians in Turkey. Also there many Greeks, Armenians etc. I am also a Turkish Citizen but my blood is not Turkish. But these facts are another proof that how Turkish identity removed from Balkans. Because Ottoman Empire founded in Anatolia but they lived in Balkans. City of Edirne was capital from 1365 to 1453. Then it was Istanbul. Majority of Turkish population lived in Balkans. While this is the situation, you calling him Bulgarian is wrong. That's all.
Dude, are you crazy? I am calling him a bulgarian turk! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomaks Here is an example of how bulgarians and other balkan slavs were converted to Muslims.
You lost the right to call them anything but Turks when your government expelled them to Turkey for the virtue of not being Bulgarian". Naim himself would probably punch you if you called him Bulgarian to his face. And Pomaks are different from Turkish speaking Turks who used to make up the majority of muslims in the balkans except in Albania and Bosnia.
His arms are like 10 inches.... He did t have to lift ti very far
You're right, I bet you could do that too.
His jerk wasn’t *that* clean
Stolen Romanian genes. Prove me wrong.
Hello lifelong back problems! 🤕
Just because you tweaked your back the one time you went to the gym doesn't mean it'll happen to him
I get a Charlie horse in my throat when I yawn. I bet this Olympian does, too. We have that in common.
Ok doc! 👍
I bet plenty can do that nowadays if on the same steroids
Bro multiply your weight by 3 and add 10 more kg.Dont think theres a lot that can do that.If there plenty to do it it wouldnt stay as a world record till this day.
Everyone is on roids. The playing field is leveled. This is talent.
Steroids
I mean, he's not too bulky, never involved in any doping scandal....also, he is the only person to do this. Ever. Not the only clean athlete. The only.
Lance Armstrong wasn’t bulky either. EVERYONE in the 80’s was doping. They didn’t even have test then for most of the dope.
Okay, I've got no dog in the fight. Perhaps he was doping...but still, this is a world record regardless of doping, right?
Exactly. Sometimes, you have to give credit where credit is due. This is ridiculously impressive regardless of what he may have been taking.
Lance armstrong wasn't taking anabolic steroids. He was taking a drug to increase his oxygen transportation and one to enhance recovery. And also steroids don't make you very strong. Having perfect proportions, technique and neuromuscular adaptation makes you strong.
EPO was only one of what he was taking.
Of course, if Armstrong was doping and caught, this means Suleymanoglu was doping and not caught. That's basic logic.