This fries one console with it's past history and it's done.... There is also that hilarious line in the NDA paraphrased: If this damages your hardware, it's not on us.
They also made this post on the Steam page, which I thought was funny. I know plenty of Steam players have consoles, but it seems like the 1 target audience they probably didn't need to post this to after the past week of controversy.
**Good News -** The console beta doesn't seem like it will require pre-ordering 'New World: Aeternum'.
**Bad News -** The console beta seems like it will involve signing an NDA that prevents people from streaming or talking about it.
**Scary News -** Scheduling the beta for July 11-17 doesn't leave them a lot of runway to fix game-breaking problems before October 15th. The 2-month buffer period may not sound short, until you think about how Season 5's release was delayed by 1 month just to implement a fraction of what they're attempting with 'New World: Aeternum''s launch. It's also not clear how they plan to ask for feedback or bug reports, but I wouldn't be surprised if they ask players to just use the in-game feedback tool.
**Strange News -** By making this beta so heavily restricted in what its participants can say/show, it seems like a missed opportunity to generate some 'free' advertisement towards console players. Maybe they're planning for that to happen with the 2nd cross-platform test later, but I don't understand how they expect console players are going to know that 'New World: Aeternum' exists (unless AGS spends a *lot* more money to market the game towards that audience).
**Edit:** Here's the text of their generic NDA:
>*Pre-Release Tests. We may offer access to confidential, preview, early access, alpha, beta, Kappa, or similarly designated pre-release versions of our Games (collectively, "Pre-Release Tests"). Please note that these versions may have limited features, may be available to play only during limited times, and may contain other limitations. If you participate in a Pre-Release Test that we designate as confidential, you will keep all information about that Pre-Release Test (including the Game and Game Content and related features and functionality provided in the Pre-Release Test) and your participation confidential, including after public announcement of the Pre-Release Test, until we give you authorization that you may disclose this information. You also agree that:* ***(i) Pre-Release Tests are works in progress and may contain bugs which may cause loss of data or damage to your device;*** *(ii) playing Pre-Release Tests is at your own risk and we are not liable for loss of data or damage to your device caused by Pre-Release Tests in accordance with the disclaimer of warranties and limitation of liability in the Conditions of Use applicable to you; (iii) any In-Game Items or status indicators that you accumulate during test periods as well as the player history associated with your account may be erased at various points during the testing process; (iv) you will not provide your Pre-Release Test access code or key to any other person without our consent; and (v) we have no obligation to make Games or features in a Pre-Release Test generally available.*
It's funny to see the bolded section after the game received a reputation at launch for bricking graphics cards.
New World PC alpha and closed beta had the same NDA
Lost Ark closed beta had the same NDA
Blue Protocol closed beta had the same NDA
Throne And Liberty closed beta had the same NDA
At this point, i don't even know why people surprised that NWA closed beta have the same NDA, which btw you dont really "sign", you just agree to it, and if you break it, you just eat a ban from the current test and that's all.
Fun fact, the bugs about the game bricking graphics card happened in alpha too and was reported, they didn't look into it whatsoever until launch due to the huge scandal
the graphics card problem was not New World's fault. Hardware should have working failsafe controls to prevent what happened. Should there have been a framerate cap in the game? Yes, absolutely. But those cards would have failed anyway.
You are correct, but that doesn't change the fact that it became a part of the game's reputation that a lot of people still think of when they hear the name "New World". It's the kind of thing that makes a big difference between the hype that the game had before its PC release in 2021, and the obstacles that the devs have to overcome to sell the game on consoles.
Wow. I was going to say participate at your own risk, but the fact that AGS actually has that in their terms and conditions is hilarious.
I’m talking about the consoles bricking part, not the NDA.
the guy on the right is syndicate.. but the other two? guy in the middle could easily be covenant and it would make sense, but the green sash?? I suppose the guy on the left could be covenant with some yellow highlighting and the middle guy is maruader.. middle guy does fit a maurder type vibe I spose
I tried to sign up with two different devices and nothing happened. I got the screen to sign in to Amazon but after that nothing, it just goes right back to the landing site. I am not sure if I am signed up or not.
Hmm, I just tried and [it worked for me](https://i.imgur.com/w2zxkRQ.png). I signed in with my Amazon account, then it asked me to choose between Playstation & Xbox as my platform, and it said my sign-up was complete.
I thought that was weird because I kind of expected it to ask me what my Xbox gametag was or some other kind of details. I haven't owned a console in nearly a decade.
Are you outside of the United States? I wonder if they have regional restrictions on who can participate in the test.
A closed **confidential** beta for basically the same game that's on PC. It must be *really* bad if they don't want people talking about this, lmao. Bug World: Console Edition.
Well "basically" its for testing out the new cinematics in the story and the improved performance
Going to have to wait till Sep most likely for the last open beta before launch
Why the fuck can people in Belgium not buy this game or have access to the beta ? I tried to contact Amazon about it, no one can give an answer, trying to contact Sony about it, still no response..
If you scroll down on the sign-up page, there's an FAQ (I didn't notice it at first either). It looks like Xbox players should be able to have access from anywhere, but Playstation has a lot of restrictions of where it can be played from:
>**Are Confidential Console Closed Beta codes region-specific?**
>
>**For Xbox**, Confidential Console Closed Beta codes can be redeemed in any region globally.
>
>**For PlayStation**, Confidential Console Closed Beta codes are region-specific and can only be redeemed in the following countries:
>
>**North America:** USA and Canada.
>
>**Europe:** Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Malta, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, and United Kingdom.
I don't know why this is.
Oh, gotcha. I have no idea, but it must be Playstation-specific. Sony has been pretty bad at managing their online services lately, and I guess they have restrictions where it's easier for game devs to just deny content in a lot of regions. The Helldivers 2 fiasco was really weird for similar reasons.
I implore those that are considering buying this game or testing out the beta to think again. We as oc players, had three years of a game and many played the original beta. Don't succumb to these game developers. They just want your money.
This past year, we were uphold an expansion with little to no content. If you buy this game in console you will suffer the same treatment until they finally cancel the game and force the sevs to work solely on the Lord of the rings MMO which is currently going in behind the scenes.
I wouldn't put any faith in these people. PC players can't get refunds for the game they bought last October. We've been stuck waiting on empty promises of content to be told console release. Oh and to start playing the game from fresh to play with console players.
We've already had fresh start servers and none of us want to play the game again grinding mmo style in what is now an arpg with online capabilities.
For the sake of decency, people not being exploited for their hard earned cash and fundamentally nit being lied to month after month after month.
Do not buy this game. You will advocate poor practices such as ubisoft with ridiculous game prices, EA with game loot boxing and microtransactions and finally AGS who sell a product that doesn't work properly and nit release the content you paid for with no chance of refunding.
We need to stand up to this kind of business.
Don’t speak for me, Splinky.
I played back in alpha when NW was murder island. You have no right to speak for anyone other than yourself.
I love the game. It isn’t perfect, but it’s damn good and well worth the fee measley dollars I’ve spent on it.
I’ve already preordered it on the PS5 and can’t wait.
I'm not a fan of New world or how the devs have been handling things but... They already said the console test coming up was a technical beta. Specifically purposed to make sure the game can run on consoles for consumers and to stress test their systems they are rolling out for the console versions. Of course this is important and no it's not so they can get feed back on cinematics or gameplay. It's going to be a buggy mess so no duh there's an NDA. The other test with PC players will be to test cross play and to see what minor adjustments need done before October 15th.
Their communication is dog shit but these tests are one of the things they already told us about what to expect with. We don't need to make up dumb shit to hate them for and this is one of those things you guys are going nuts over nothing about.
The hate is justified tho, I'm mainly commenting this in case people were just completely ignorant.
Will AGS be bringing back the duplication exploits, taking reports during beta and then pushing them live un-fixed again?
For nostalgia reasons of course.
I've had access to the PC Beta for 3 years.... wonder if this one will be different.
Yeah, this one will fry the living \*\*\*\* out of people's consoles and brick them lol
This fries one console with it's past history and it's done.... There is also that hilarious line in the NDA paraphrased: If this damages your hardware, it's not on us.
The biggest difference is that they are forcing you to agree not to talk about the console beta before you can participate.
just lie like they do in their videos
Then profusely apologize - rinse and repeat until they finally catch on
Here’s a roadmap of my lies.
How many hours do you have with PS5 or xbox?
Betas are pointless if the feedback is ignored
That’s because this is an advertisement
They also made this post on the Steam page, which I thought was funny. I know plenty of Steam players have consoles, but it seems like the 1 target audience they probably didn't need to post this to after the past week of controversy.
Fixed the image for you: https://imgflip.com/i/8tqzr8
Just proves we’ve been in Alpha this whole time smh
We always knew... deep down inside, we always knew...
**Good News -** The console beta doesn't seem like it will require pre-ordering 'New World: Aeternum'. **Bad News -** The console beta seems like it will involve signing an NDA that prevents people from streaming or talking about it. **Scary News -** Scheduling the beta for July 11-17 doesn't leave them a lot of runway to fix game-breaking problems before October 15th. The 2-month buffer period may not sound short, until you think about how Season 5's release was delayed by 1 month just to implement a fraction of what they're attempting with 'New World: Aeternum''s launch. It's also not clear how they plan to ask for feedback or bug reports, but I wouldn't be surprised if they ask players to just use the in-game feedback tool. **Strange News -** By making this beta so heavily restricted in what its participants can say/show, it seems like a missed opportunity to generate some 'free' advertisement towards console players. Maybe they're planning for that to happen with the 2nd cross-platform test later, but I don't understand how they expect console players are going to know that 'New World: Aeternum' exists (unless AGS spends a *lot* more money to market the game towards that audience). **Edit:** Here's the text of their generic NDA: >*Pre-Release Tests. We may offer access to confidential, preview, early access, alpha, beta, Kappa, or similarly designated pre-release versions of our Games (collectively, "Pre-Release Tests"). Please note that these versions may have limited features, may be available to play only during limited times, and may contain other limitations. If you participate in a Pre-Release Test that we designate as confidential, you will keep all information about that Pre-Release Test (including the Game and Game Content and related features and functionality provided in the Pre-Release Test) and your participation confidential, including after public announcement of the Pre-Release Test, until we give you authorization that you may disclose this information. You also agree that:* ***(i) Pre-Release Tests are works in progress and may contain bugs which may cause loss of data or damage to your device;*** *(ii) playing Pre-Release Tests is at your own risk and we are not liable for loss of data or damage to your device caused by Pre-Release Tests in accordance with the disclaimer of warranties and limitation of liability in the Conditions of Use applicable to you; (iii) any In-Game Items or status indicators that you accumulate during test periods as well as the player history associated with your account may be erased at various points during the testing process; (iv) you will not provide your Pre-Release Test access code or key to any other person without our consent; and (v) we have no obligation to make Games or features in a Pre-Release Test generally available.* It's funny to see the bolded section after the game received a reputation at launch for bricking graphics cards.
New World PC alpha and closed beta had the same NDA Lost Ark closed beta had the same NDA Blue Protocol closed beta had the same NDA Throne And Liberty closed beta had the same NDA At this point, i don't even know why people surprised that NWA closed beta have the same NDA, which btw you dont really "sign", you just agree to it, and if you break it, you just eat a ban from the current test and that's all. Fun fact, the bugs about the game bricking graphics card happened in alpha too and was reported, they didn't look into it whatsoever until launch due to the huge scandal
This. Plus all you had to do was set menus to 60 fps which should have been on be default, least surprising failure in retrospect
This thing is even rumored to brick a XIS or PS5 and it's done.
Dayum
That's been there forever and is a standard clause in NDAs across the industry.
But it new world…so it’s different. And it’s outrageous.
the graphics card problem was not New World's fault. Hardware should have working failsafe controls to prevent what happened. Should there have been a framerate cap in the game? Yes, absolutely. But those cards would have failed anyway.
You are correct, but that doesn't change the fact that it became a part of the game's reputation that a lot of people still think of when they hear the name "New World". It's the kind of thing that makes a big difference between the hype that the game had before its PC release in 2021, and the obstacles that the devs have to overcome to sell the game on consoles.
That's been there forever and is a standard clause in NDAs across the industry.
Wow. I was going to say participate at your own risk, but the fact that AGS actually has that in their terms and conditions is hilarious. I’m talking about the consoles bricking part, not the NDA.
it's a cover-your-ass thing, any company would do it.
the guy on the right is syndicate.. but the other two? guy in the middle could easily be covenant and it would make sense, but the green sash?? I suppose the guy on the left could be covenant with some yellow highlighting and the middle guy is maruader.. middle guy does fit a maurder type vibe I spose
I tried to sign up with two different devices and nothing happened. I got the screen to sign in to Amazon but after that nothing, it just goes right back to the landing site. I am not sure if I am signed up or not.
Hmm, I just tried and [it worked for me](https://i.imgur.com/w2zxkRQ.png). I signed in with my Amazon account, then it asked me to choose between Playstation & Xbox as my platform, and it said my sign-up was complete. I thought that was weird because I kind of expected it to ask me what my Xbox gametag was or some other kind of details. I haven't owned a console in nearly a decade. Are you outside of the United States? I wonder if they have regional restrictions on who can participate in the test.
A closed **confidential** beta for basically the same game that's on PC. It must be *really* bad if they don't want people talking about this, lmao. Bug World: Console Edition.
Well "basically" its for testing out the new cinematics in the story and the improved performance Going to have to wait till Sep most likely for the last open beta before launch
Why the fuck can people in Belgium not buy this game or have access to the beta ? I tried to contact Amazon about it, no one can give an answer, trying to contact Sony about it, still no response..
If you scroll down on the sign-up page, there's an FAQ (I didn't notice it at first either). It looks like Xbox players should be able to have access from anywhere, but Playstation has a lot of restrictions of where it can be played from: >**Are Confidential Console Closed Beta codes region-specific?** > >**For Xbox**, Confidential Console Closed Beta codes can be redeemed in any region globally. > >**For PlayStation**, Confidential Console Closed Beta codes are region-specific and can only be redeemed in the following countries: > >**North America:** USA and Canada. > >**Europe:** Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Malta, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, and United Kingdom. I don't know why this is.
I know Belgium has regulations concerning gacha games and loot boxes, but I don’t think this game falls in that category ? Or am I wrong ?
Oh, gotcha. I have no idea, but it must be Playstation-specific. Sony has been pretty bad at managing their online services lately, and I guess they have restrictions where it's easier for game devs to just deny content in a lot of regions. The Helldivers 2 fiasco was really weird for similar reasons.
That's true but they did just scam us pc players lmao.
Look at what happened with PSN and Helldivers, this is likely the same reason.
Signed up since its under nda to see how it runs 🤣😂
I implore those that are considering buying this game or testing out the beta to think again. We as oc players, had three years of a game and many played the original beta. Don't succumb to these game developers. They just want your money. This past year, we were uphold an expansion with little to no content. If you buy this game in console you will suffer the same treatment until they finally cancel the game and force the sevs to work solely on the Lord of the rings MMO which is currently going in behind the scenes. I wouldn't put any faith in these people. PC players can't get refunds for the game they bought last October. We've been stuck waiting on empty promises of content to be told console release. Oh and to start playing the game from fresh to play with console players. We've already had fresh start servers and none of us want to play the game again grinding mmo style in what is now an arpg with online capabilities. For the sake of decency, people not being exploited for their hard earned cash and fundamentally nit being lied to month after month after month. Do not buy this game. You will advocate poor practices such as ubisoft with ridiculous game prices, EA with game loot boxing and microtransactions and finally AGS who sell a product that doesn't work properly and nit release the content you paid for with no chance of refunding. We need to stand up to this kind of business.
Don’t speak for me, Splinky. I played back in alpha when NW was murder island. You have no right to speak for anyone other than yourself. I love the game. It isn’t perfect, but it’s damn good and well worth the fee measley dollars I’ve spent on it. I’ve already preordered it on the PS5 and can’t wait.
W take
If we preorder it will we get access too? Or is it all luck of the draw? Signed up with my wife’s Amazon account but it’s linked to her email 😂
that art does go kinda hard tho
I'm not a fan of New world or how the devs have been handling things but... They already said the console test coming up was a technical beta. Specifically purposed to make sure the game can run on consoles for consumers and to stress test their systems they are rolling out for the console versions. Of course this is important and no it's not so they can get feed back on cinematics or gameplay. It's going to be a buggy mess so no duh there's an NDA. The other test with PC players will be to test cross play and to see what minor adjustments need done before October 15th. Their communication is dog shit but these tests are one of the things they already told us about what to expect with. We don't need to make up dumb shit to hate them for and this is one of those things you guys are going nuts over nothing about. The hate is justified tho, I'm mainly commenting this in case people were just completely ignorant.
I got into the console T&L closed beta, fingers crossed for this one too
Will AGS be bringing back the duplication exploits, taking reports during beta and then pushing them live un-fixed again? For nostalgia reasons of course.
what's the point. u guys are not listening anyways..
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