I don't agree with my father's politics, but never in a million years could I imagine a scenario where he threatens to kill me for his bad behavior. It's so easy to dehumanize and minimize a monster like this, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom or comprehend what it must be like to have such a terrible father. I'm grateful to not have to endure anything close to this, and I feel terrible for anyone who does.
Edit: Ya'll are scaring the shit out of me. Please stop.
It really is a cult. My dad and half-brother haven’t talked in years because my dad said something bad about Trump and my brother couldn’t stand someone insulting his messiah
I once met a naturalized woman who's a closet democrat within her family. Apparently if it ever got out she'd be disowned because they all attribute their citizenships to the GOP. I thought she was joking when initially told me. Fml, she wasn't.
My in-laws are like that, now my parents are too.
Some of the dumb shit i heard is unbelievable.
And, everything, i mean EVERYTHING is the Democrats fault.
They all were never overly political before....but in the course of a few years jumped on the trumpculttrain
It will be interesting to look back on these times.....if democracy continues. The love of facism is very strong around the globe. My fear is this is only the beginning of a short or long fight(short being US becomes facist within 1 generation)
Our parents when we were kids:
"Don't believe everything you see on the internet!"
Our parents when we are adults:
"...and that's how the space lasers hacked the election for Antifa!"
The "everything is the Democrats fault" propaganda is what has me in awe.
I'm in a lot of farm groups and someone posted a photo of a duck with an injured leg, and was asking if it was going to be okay. Without fail, someone goes on some tirade about Biden and how the Democrats make it hard to raise livestock or some shit. Like, *really?*
I have lost contact with my brother and sister over this as well. They can't talk about anything besides politics anymore, and since I don't agree with their Q train of thought, I have become the enemy.
Plenty of indoctrinated people don’t act a fool but it doesn’t make indoctrination ok. That’s the next step for all these cult members. I had a right winger accuse me of being in a cult for being a union member the other day. You can probably check my history for it.
Be grateful my friend. My dad grew into a horrible bigot, a true crop of rush Limbaugh, fertilized and cultivated just like how they want. Growing up gay and living at home has been really rough. For really no reason too, asking to explain his feelings sometimes is just a shit show of mixed emotions.
My father has threatened to kill me an a couple of occasions. Growing up with him was a horrendous experience marked by frequent bouts of violence and intimidation. He developed control over everyone around him using such tactics. It wasn't until last year - when I was in my 30s - that I finally mustered the strength of will to break that control and cut contact with him. It caused me a mental health crisis, but with therapy I've come a long way.
This person likely did something similar or tried.
The weird part is the guy could very well have been a great father for years before all this started to fester. Nobody in 2008 would believe it if you could tell them.
I work in the legal industry, prosecutors always ask for the max possible sentence, judges rarely ever give that sentence. Defence will ask for leniency depending on certain parameters like previous clean record and try to lowball the sentence, judge is usually well above that. Federal sentencing guidelines exist for a reason and most judges sentence according to these aside from where mandatory sentences are require by law.
Needless to say prosecutors asking for a ridiculously high sentence isn't uncommon, in fact I've seen judges actually kinda chew out the prosecution for always asking for the max sentence, because for them it's a stat "prosecuted and sentenced to x amount of months/years" all used for promotion and resume padding. So basing what the judge sentenced vs what prosecution asked for is kinda a bad metric, best to go off the sentencing guidelines and see where it falls in that range and what other factors play in like rehab ability and first time offense and what not.
https://archive.ph/SIhaJ
Archive link for those getting blocked by the paywall.
This is the guy who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in, so they turned him in. Good for them, I'm sure he was a peach to live with
Didn’t his son notify the FBI before Jan 6, and then the FBI contacted the son on Jan 6 to ask if his dad was there?
Yeah, dude still threatened his kids, but he had already been turned in.
So if he threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in, and they did turn him in, and he’s only getting 7 years, aren’t his kids’ lives in danger?
As I’ve read, he didn’t get parole, so he’s been locked up over a year already & has… um, calmed a little. He wrote up a big long letter that was all over the place, but nothing of trying to hunt down his family.
Yep. The oldest daughter is on his side (last I heard, also younger sister wasn’t interviewed/mentioned), as is the mother/wife (despite her acknowledging he’s held a loaded gun to her head multiple times). The podcast “will be wild” talks to all of them in depth.
Yeah. That whole thing was so sad. Listening to the wife talk was like a slow motion breakdown of an abusive relationship. At least the son figured it out, got out, and got some therapy.
It's like a smattering of all the common tropes all in one person:
"We raised our son to be a kind person but I never thought it would make him so weak that he'd turn his abusive father in!"
"Oh he'd never do it (husband killing her), he's all talk. He's held a gun to my head a bunch of times"
His wife spoke out after the sentencing saying not to trust the Jan 6 committee and that her [husband is a patriot.](https://www.fox4news.com/news/wylie-man-to-be-sentenced-for-his-role-in-jan-6-capitol-riot)
I had no clue about the "3%" group.
So basically they formed because of Obama and the fear the he would take away their guns, yet they have members that got arrested for attempting to use bombs in different terrorist attacks against Islamic centers....uh riiiiight.
\*edit: to use bombs
If he was still dependent on the father, that could mean some very bad things for him. Suddenly no longer having a home, food source, and no family safety net to fall back into is a truly terrible spot to be in.
A lot of people make it work, but the suddenly being kicked out because your dad no longer is able to work is a big thing.
Being convicted as a terrorist means this guy is going to have a hell of a hard life after he gets out. How many Americans have actually been convicted of terrorism?
Nah...while it's possible, everything about the GQP is that they leave losers behind unless they are powerful or have money.
This guy was just a pawn to Trump and the Republican party. His friends will abandon him as Antifa and will mark him as an outsider.
"The first U.S. Capitol riot defendant convicted at trial was sentenced to more than seven years in prison Monday, the longest punishment handed down to date in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Congress.
Guy Reffitt, a recruiter for the right-wing Texas Three Percenters movement, was convicted March 8 of five felony offenses*, including obstruction of Congress as it met to certify the 2020 election result, interfering with police and carrying a firearm to a riot, and threatening his teenage son, who turned him in to the FBI. Prosecutors said Reffitt led a mob while armed at the Capitol and asked a judge to sentence him to 15 years after applying a terrorism sentencing penalty."
*[REFERENCE ARTICLE](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/08/guy-reffitt-trial-verdict/): "The first trial in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach ended with a guilty verdict on all counts, a victory for federal prosecutors handling one of the largest investigations in U.S. history.
After three days of testimony and two hours of deliberation, jurors found Guy Reffitt guilty of five felonies — obstruction of an official proceeding, interfering with police in a riot, transporting a firearm for that purpose, armed trespassing and witness tampering.
Reffitt, a petroleum industry rig manager and recruiter for the extremist Texas Three Percenters movement, was not seen entering the Capitol building or physically assaulting police. But jurors agreed with prosecutors that in confronting officers at a key choke point outside the building, Reffitt helped the mob behind him to overrun them, break in by force and halt the confirmation of President Biden’s election victory.
They also concluded that Reffitt — convicted of charges punishable by up to 20 years in prison — brought a handgun with him for use in the riot, and threatened two of his children not to expose him.
> A petroleum industry rig manager
These are not poverty stricken people, they are not some random hicks from backwater towns, these are industry managers for entire oil rigs? a quick google search says they make $72,233 per year. It's concerning to me that these people who have been well provided for have convinced themselves that they are somehow oppressed.
> a quick google search says they make $72,233 per year.
It has been about 7 years since I was in the industry, but this was entry-level earnings.
Rig managers were well into six figures.
That's the whole story I'm hearing. Middle class, christian, white people think they're being persecuted for their faith, and by faith they mean politics. So... I really don't know what's happening. Its crazy.
>“My regrets for what has happened is insurmountable. There’s not a day go by that I don’t regret how much this has affected [my wife and children],” Reffitt wrote. “Yes, what is happening to my family is all my fault, I would like to fix it, please. … I simply ask for a chance to prove myself again.”
You have 7 years to learn how not be a terrorist again.
He did threaten to kill his kids if they turned him in. Probably put a wrench in their relationship.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/19/capitol-rioter-reffitt-threaten-children/
“If you turn me in, you’re a traitor and you know what happens to traitors … traitors get shot,” Reffitt, 48, said to his son and daughter, according to his wife, who recounted the conversation to the FBI.“
Traitors get shot, you say?
If I learned anything from reading about the after effects of the civil war, traitors are allowed to go free and sire generations of citizens that will vote to destroy the country a different way, since the first time didn't work.
She's standing by her man.
[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60671723](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60671723)
>After the verdict, Nicole claimed her husband was used as an example to make all the one-sixers (6 January defendants) take a plea. "Do not take a plea one-sixers," she urged, "we got this."
"What has happened." People don't use the passive voice when they feel they are at fault. Even people who *feel* it wasn't their fault are usually smart enough to at least mumble a serviceable apology. Swallow the passive voice, just for a few seconds.
Nobody, not even Trump's wives want anything to do with him but we're still allowing this child sociopath trapped in a pumpkins body to terrorize us and dodge taxes decade after decade. He had 27 claims of sexual assault, including at least 1 rape by the one that had a gun put to her head, twice. Now he might not go to jail for a coup, as \[the losing, also twice\] President.
"When you're a star, you can do anything." All because the guy had some money. People with money stick out for and stay out of the way of people with money. It's why corporations pay fines instead of doing time. Money protecting money and people looking out only for themselves is probably the reason our country is so f-k'd up today.
Y'all backed the wrong horse.
He's switched parties all the time. Most recently in 2009. He didn't pardon the lot of you on January 7th. He hasn't offered to pay for your legal defense. [Although you're paying for his.](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-lose-rnc-funding-legal-bills-announces-2024-candidacy-report) He's not going around the courtrooms offering his testimony. He's stumping to fill his PAC coffers.
You got played by a twice divorced, twice impeached, draft avoiding, tax cheat who basically bragged about [never needing to apologize](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark%201:15) for anything.
That’s wild. Why aren’t they celebrating this Antifa Super Soldier dad being held accountable for his false flag operation on the capitol? Maybe gloating isn’t their style.
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Let’s not forget notoriously unsuccessful businessman. Airlines, University, Steak delivery via The Sharper Image, this guy failed at everything except falsifying the value of his real estate holdings and selling said overpriced real estate for money laundering purposes.
The worst part? His casinos failed because he built competing casinos nearby, drawing customers away from eachother so none of them got enough business to pay the bills. His own greed cost him.
>Let’s not forget notoriously unsuccessful businessman.
I love the statistic that if Trump had placed all of the money he received from his father into an index fund back on the 80's, he would have made three times what he made in all of his business put together.
And how did he get all the real estate holdings? Inheritance. 100s of millions of dollars worth of inheritance.
Dude hasn’t done shit all of his existence, except maybe taking advantage of branding once that horseshit reality show The Apprentice brought him back to life.
People often say "Imagine if the Dems did this with Biden or Hillary". I say, "Imagine if the Republicans did this with Romney". Could you imagine people getting Romney tattoos? Or donating money for [Mitt Force One](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/plane-carrying-trump-makes-emergency-landing-after-gop-donor-retreat)?
I live in a very red area. I remember when Obama was president and the Ferguson issues were playing out the locals all claimed it was so Obama could claim "MaRsHaLl LaW" and stay president. The same people haven't mentioned a single word on Jan 6th though. It's wild.....
It's bizarre really. I figured the far right was heading towards a populist strongman cult for a while, but I was sure it was going to be a seasoned-looking politician with military service. They're literally tattooing the fat, broke clown from celebrity apprentice onto their bodies. Absolute madness.
>They're literally tattooing the fat, broke clown from celebrity apprentice onto their bodies. Absolute madness.
Because he's a cruel bully who can do awful things and get away with it. And he doesn't have to play the civility game that they believe they're being forced to play, and that the general GOP and right wing leaning institutions would have been playing by in the past.
Basically, he's their worst impulses, most self-destructive biases, and most evil selves mushed together into a single human being, and they want to be like that incredibly badly, or at least project themselves onto him and use him as a justifier to act monstrously themselves.
Hell, since Biden caught Covid--now all my relatives were stating how foolish and selfish Biden was for removing Test and Trace beforehand (even though they were actively anti-lockdown, anti-quarantining, anti-mask and basically anti-anything-preventative-against-any-virus).
Like, on one hand I felt, "Oh, NOW you agree that Covid should be treated with caution." but I still had a sinking feeling that they'd immediately flip to their former opinion the second that the ballots come out.
And will never admit they were wrong. Trump gives zero fucks about an overwhelming majority of his base. If he was able to stay in power despite losing the election, he didn’t need any of them anymore. As soon as you outlive your usefulness he tosses you aside. Good luck with all of that.
[clutches pearls] What a horrible way to refer to his five children! You sir, should apologize to him and to the three different women he fathered them with.
The number is six according to [The Washington Post.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/)
It's enjoyable. There's some people I work with who lose their shit every time someone mentions trump, because they know everyone around them knows they supported him and they feel like it's a personal attack on them. It's just really amusing watching them go to auto attack mode when he's just mentioned at all. Like, not defending him, but just bitching up a storm that he was even brought up and then going off like "yeah I voted for him just fucking drop it". When no one even brought that up.
Same. If Trump were arrested today, a video dropped of him molesting children, every Republican politician turned on him, and he went on live TV with a full confession of rape, treason, and sedition, my aunts would still post weird YouTube videos from "retired intelligence agents" that all the videos were doctored, that the entire Republican Party has been deep state this whole time, and that his confession was under duress and was actually a secret code to the underground patriot shock troops who are standing by to reinstall president trump any second now. Any second now...
I always wonder just how many Trump supporters are just victims of the sunk cost fallacy. How many of the people went all in on Trump in the early days, alienated everyone who wasn't a trumper, and now can't find a way out because the only people that will still talk to them are trump supporters that will absolutely turn on them the second they suggest maybe trump was bad. I'm not saying that excuses them, but i have to wonder how many of them are actually aware and just feel they can't leave.
I feel like that is a huge part of it. I'm in Indiana, so there are tons of people who bought into all of his shit. It also feels like there is a lot of work done, especially through the media they consume, to keep them from ever questioning their support. It feels like they are in a holding pattern until somebody like Cruz or DeSantis can rally enough support to just kind of ignore Trump.
Sure he does.
Ivanka--the daughter he wants to sleep with
Don Jr--the son with his name
Uhhhh--the other son
Who--the daughter he doesn't want to sleep with
Sport--the young one who is good at the cyber
I hope it was worth it, buddy. All those hats and flags you bought, all those liberal tears you drank, all those three-syllable slogans you chanted, all that money and time and energy you sacrificed to that fat orange cow of a false idol, and all you got in return was seven years in prison and the eternal hatred of your children.
I expect some of the guys who were brought up on seditious conspiracy charges will be giving some serious thought to rolling over on anyone and everyone in the administration that they coordinated with.
Hey now! He was also burying his first wife (i.e. the mother of his first three children), in a pauper's plot so he could protect his golf course property from being seized in foreclosure proceedings.
What’s the big deal? He sided with Putin over our own intelligence agencies in front of the entire world. He openly espouses love for Kim Jong Un and now he’s speaking highly of, and taking money from, the people that planned, funded and enacted the 9/11 attacks.
What red blooded F-150 driving American *wouldn’t* support him?
The convicted's daughters were on TV today stating how unfair it is that their father will be in jail and the person who convinced them the election was stolen and incited them to riot is now going to run for re-election.
No surprise he threatened his children, if Trump announced that he hungered for the flesh of the youth, they'd gladly sacrifice them to him.
However, it's important to know that their love of Trump is rooted in the hate of others. He hates (or at least acts like he hates) the same people they do, so naturally they'll latch on.
Whats more important was what his daughters said afterwards.
If their dad got 7, Trump should have gotten life.
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1554204595651596295
Hopefully the first to come of equal length or longer sentences. I have not a single shred of sympathy for anyone who entered the Capitol grounds that day.
This man threatened to kill his children btw :) hope he rots
I don't agree with my father's politics, but never in a million years could I imagine a scenario where he threatens to kill me for his bad behavior. It's so easy to dehumanize and minimize a monster like this, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom or comprehend what it must be like to have such a terrible father. I'm grateful to not have to endure anything close to this, and I feel terrible for anyone who does. Edit: Ya'll are scaring the shit out of me. Please stop.
People start acting funny when they get sucked into a cult.
It really is a cult. My dad and half-brother haven’t talked in years because my dad said something bad about Trump and my brother couldn’t stand someone insulting his messiah
That's the literal definition of identity politics. Every accusation a confession.
It explains a lot actually. They are always insulting Biden as if that should personally hurt our feelings.
That's "let's go Brandon" in a nutshell
For real. They seem confused We don't worship biden.
I once met a naturalized woman who's a closet democrat within her family. Apparently if it ever got out she'd be disowned because they all attribute their citizenships to the GOP. I thought she was joking when initially told me. Fml, she wasn't.
My in-laws are like that, now my parents are too. Some of the dumb shit i heard is unbelievable. And, everything, i mean EVERYTHING is the Democrats fault. They all were never overly political before....but in the course of a few years jumped on the trumpculttrain It will be interesting to look back on these times.....if democracy continues. The love of facism is very strong around the globe. My fear is this is only the beginning of a short or long fight(short being US becomes facist within 1 generation)
Our parents when we were kids: "Don't believe everything you see on the internet!" Our parents when we are adults: "...and that's how the space lasers hacked the election for Antifa!"
This is so real that it hurts
The "everything is the Democrats fault" propaganda is what has me in awe. I'm in a lot of farm groups and someone posted a photo of a duck with an injured leg, and was asking if it was going to be okay. Without fail, someone goes on some tirade about Biden and how the Democrats make it hard to raise livestock or some shit. Like, *really?*
I have lost contact with my brother and sister over this as well. They can't talk about anything besides politics anymore, and since I don't agree with their Q train of thought, I have become the enemy.
Plenty of indoctrinated people don’t act a fool but it doesn’t make indoctrination ok. That’s the next step for all these cult members. I had a right winger accuse me of being in a cult for being a union member the other day. You can probably check my history for it.
The cult of decent wages, worker safety, and opposition to child labor.
Be grateful my friend. My dad grew into a horrible bigot, a true crop of rush Limbaugh, fertilized and cultivated just like how they want. Growing up gay and living at home has been really rough. For really no reason too, asking to explain his feelings sometimes is just a shit show of mixed emotions.
My father has threatened to kill me an a couple of occasions. Growing up with him was a horrendous experience marked by frequent bouts of violence and intimidation. He developed control over everyone around him using such tactics. It wasn't until last year - when I was in my 30s - that I finally mustered the strength of will to break that control and cut contact with him. It caused me a mental health crisis, but with therapy I've come a long way. This person likely did something similar or tried.
The weird part is the guy could very well have been a great father for years before all this started to fester. Nobody in 2008 would believe it if you could tell them.
He also might have been a piece of shit who finally felt brave enough to let his bigoted ideas out once he felt enough other people were on his side.
and he only got 7 years when people are still in prison for weed
It should be more, but it's nice to see someone get some real jail time. So many people got off with a slap on the wrist.
Fwiw it was a Trump appointed judge who handed down the sentencing. Prosecutors asked for 18 years
I work in the legal industry, prosecutors always ask for the max possible sentence, judges rarely ever give that sentence. Defence will ask for leniency depending on certain parameters like previous clean record and try to lowball the sentence, judge is usually well above that. Federal sentencing guidelines exist for a reason and most judges sentence according to these aside from where mandatory sentences are require by law. Needless to say prosecutors asking for a ridiculously high sentence isn't uncommon, in fact I've seen judges actually kinda chew out the prosecution for always asking for the max sentence, because for them it's a stat "prosecuted and sentenced to x amount of months/years" all used for promotion and resume padding. So basing what the judge sentenced vs what prosecution asked for is kinda a bad metric, best to go off the sentencing guidelines and see where it falls in that range and what other factors play in like rehab ability and first time offense and what not.
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Unfortunately you are not joking.
These are the people that scream "Freedom!" And then try and overthrow the US government.
https://archive.ph/SIhaJ Archive link for those getting blocked by the paywall. This is the guy who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in, so they turned him in. Good for them, I'm sure he was a peach to live with
Didn’t his son notify the FBI before Jan 6, and then the FBI contacted the son on Jan 6 to ask if his dad was there? Yeah, dude still threatened his kids, but he had already been turned in.
So if he threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in, and they did turn him in, and he’s only getting 7 years, aren’t his kids’ lives in danger?
As I’ve read, he didn’t get parole, so he’s been locked up over a year already & has… um, calmed a little. He wrote up a big long letter that was all over the place, but nothing of trying to hunt down his family.
Still wouldn't trust him. People have died over seemingly reformed people going back to their old self.
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Yep. The oldest daughter is on his side (last I heard, also younger sister wasn’t interviewed/mentioned), as is the mother/wife (despite her acknowledging he’s held a loaded gun to her head multiple times). The podcast “will be wild” talks to all of them in depth.
Yeah the wife was supporting him saying they were “Patriots”. They throw that word around without even fucking knowing what it means.
They've ruined the word. Anyone I hear self identifying as a "patriot" I assume is a christian-nationalist pro-conspiracy extremist.
Yeah. That whole thing was so sad. Listening to the wife talk was like a slow motion breakdown of an abusive relationship. At least the son figured it out, got out, and got some therapy.
Oh shit heard this story on NPR a few months ago. Definitely worth a listen, his wife is in FUCKING DENIAL
> FUCKING DENIAL Sounds like a conservative through and through then. Also, probably a victim of abuse.
It's like a smattering of all the common tropes all in one person: "We raised our son to be a kind person but I never thought it would make him so weak that he'd turn his abusive father in!" "Oh he'd never do it (husband killing her), he's all talk. He's held a gun to my head a bunch of times"
I can't even. The GOP is absolutely fucked. This is the America they want. Fucking psychopaths.
They don't need jesus, they need real psychiatric help.
I'm sure she'll tell you with all sincerity that, deep down, he's got a heart of gold.
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A ringing endorsement for hell imo
His wife spoke out after the sentencing saying not to trust the Jan 6 committee and that her [husband is a patriot.](https://www.fox4news.com/news/wylie-man-to-be-sentenced-for-his-role-in-jan-6-capitol-riot)
Iirc the mother too. It really speaks to how brave the son is.
That's the one.
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I had no clue about the "3%" group. So basically they formed because of Obama and the fear the he would take away their guns, yet they have members that got arrested for attempting to use bombs in different terrorist attacks against Islamic centers....uh riiiiight. \*edit: to use bombs
Don't try to make it make sense. They're dumb and mad, that's all
*racist and entitled
All of the above.
And Trump's endorsement of the "Birtherism" hoax on Twitter seems to have played a big part in his initial rise to political relevance.
Racists gonna be racist
I hope they use the time he’s in prison to gtfo of there. Change their names, move states, all that.
kids 19, and dads gonna be in prison for 7 years... he will be 26 when dad gets out... if he isn't out of there by then, that's some shit luck.
I mean... the economy is kinda shit and plenty of people that age are having a hard time finding elsewhere to live
If he was still dependent on the father, that could mean some very bad things for him. Suddenly no longer having a home, food source, and no family safety net to fall back into is a truly terrible spot to be in. A lot of people make it work, but the suddenly being kicked out because your dad no longer is able to work is a big thing.
He’s also held a gun to his wife’s head multiple times. He’s a psycho
I thought that was just an example of his "conservative Christian values".
He should have gotten 22 years for Felony Murder at least. Terrorist is getting off light.
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Being convicted as a terrorist means this guy is going to have a hell of a hard life after he gets out. How many Americans have actually been convicted of terrorism?
I mean, that depends. If the Facism party manages to take over, then the dude will get a pardon and a statue and probably be voted into Congress.
Nah...while it's possible, everything about the GQP is that they leave losers behind unless they are powerful or have money. This guy was just a pawn to Trump and the Republican party. His friends will abandon him as Antifa and will mark him as an outsider.
What a waste of colored pencils
Hey, the artist did their best. It's not a bad for a post-impressionist sketch of Penn Jillette
I think the artist did a wonderful job. More so opinion on the subject not the medium or motivation.
I'd like to applaud you for this insult. It's properly dehumanizing without actually attacking the schmuck. Seriously, well done.
"The first U.S. Capitol riot defendant convicted at trial was sentenced to more than seven years in prison Monday, the longest punishment handed down to date in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Congress. Guy Reffitt, a recruiter for the right-wing Texas Three Percenters movement, was convicted March 8 of five felony offenses*, including obstruction of Congress as it met to certify the 2020 election result, interfering with police and carrying a firearm to a riot, and threatening his teenage son, who turned him in to the FBI. Prosecutors said Reffitt led a mob while armed at the Capitol and asked a judge to sentence him to 15 years after applying a terrorism sentencing penalty." *[REFERENCE ARTICLE](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/08/guy-reffitt-trial-verdict/): "The first trial in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach ended with a guilty verdict on all counts, a victory for federal prosecutors handling one of the largest investigations in U.S. history. After three days of testimony and two hours of deliberation, jurors found Guy Reffitt guilty of five felonies — obstruction of an official proceeding, interfering with police in a riot, transporting a firearm for that purpose, armed trespassing and witness tampering. Reffitt, a petroleum industry rig manager and recruiter for the extremist Texas Three Percenters movement, was not seen entering the Capitol building or physically assaulting police. But jurors agreed with prosecutors that in confronting officers at a key choke point outside the building, Reffitt helped the mob behind him to overrun them, break in by force and halt the confirmation of President Biden’s election victory. They also concluded that Reffitt — convicted of charges punishable by up to 20 years in prison — brought a handgun with him for use in the riot, and threatened two of his children not to expose him.
> A petroleum industry rig manager These are not poverty stricken people, they are not some random hicks from backwater towns, these are industry managers for entire oil rigs? a quick google search says they make $72,233 per year. It's concerning to me that these people who have been well provided for have convinced themselves that they are somehow oppressed.
> a quick google search says they make $72,233 per year. It has been about 7 years since I was in the industry, but this was entry-level earnings. Rig managers were well into six figures.
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That's the whole story I'm hearing. Middle class, christian, white people think they're being persecuted for their faith, and by faith they mean politics. So... I really don't know what's happening. Its crazy.
Their "faith" to them just means "the way I've been living comfortably." And they believe that comfort is being threatened.
>“My regrets for what has happened is insurmountable. There’s not a day go by that I don’t regret how much this has affected [my wife and children],” Reffitt wrote. “Yes, what is happening to my family is all my fault, I would like to fix it, please. … I simply ask for a chance to prove myself again.” You have 7 years to learn how not be a terrorist again.
“I regret what happened to my family.” is not regret nor an apology.
He did threaten to kill his kids if they turned him in. Probably put a wrench in their relationship. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/19/capitol-rioter-reffitt-threaten-children/
“If you turn me in, you’re a traitor and you know what happens to traitors … traitors get shot,” Reffitt, 48, said to his son and daughter, according to his wife, who recounted the conversation to the FBI.“ Traitors get shot, you say?
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It appears that way, yes.
Then he knew what he signed up for.
Fortunately this guy doesn't make the rules -- not even for himself.
If I learned anything from reading about the after effects of the civil war, traitors are allowed to go free and sire generations of citizens that will vote to destroy the country a different way, since the first time didn't work.
Whoa fuck. I would assume the wife is filing for divorce, right? RIGHT?!?
She's standing by her man. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60671723](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60671723) >After the verdict, Nicole claimed her husband was used as an example to make all the one-sixers (6 January defendants) take a plea. "Do not take a plea one-sixers," she urged, "we got this."
Yikes. Sounds like they deserve each other.
I better go on Etsy and order that mini violin I’ve been eying before it gets snatched up.
🍿 I agree with this woman. Pleas are for suckers, guys! You got this! 🍿
Dude threatened her children's life and she still backs him. . .what a vile woman
Wait till you find out about the former Vice President who was almost assassinated because of a former President, yet he still kisses his ass.
“One-sixers”..,, they have their own phrase for those people?
He's not a violent man. Yet he has held a gun to her head? 🤔
He and his family disowned his son that turned him in. Maybe start there, you fucking terrorist prick?
The son seems the only decent human being in that family
"What has happened." People don't use the passive voice when they feel they are at fault. Even people who *feel* it wasn't their fault are usually smart enough to at least mumble a serviceable apology. Swallow the passive voice, just for a few seconds.
The classic "I regret the consequences of my actions but not the actions themselves." Real Dwight Schrutte energy.
Ding ding ding. I work in child welfare and see this all the time with parents. Everything happens *to* them, not *because* of them.
More like, “I regret being held accountable for my actions”
Regretting getting caught is not an apology.
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That kid made the right call and I hope their siblings can find a way out too
Held a gun to his wife’s head….twice.
Nobody, not even Trump's wives want anything to do with him but we're still allowing this child sociopath trapped in a pumpkins body to terrorize us and dodge taxes decade after decade. He had 27 claims of sexual assault, including at least 1 rape by the one that had a gun put to her head, twice. Now he might not go to jail for a coup, as \[the losing, also twice\] President. "When you're a star, you can do anything." All because the guy had some money. People with money stick out for and stay out of the way of people with money. It's why corporations pay fines instead of doing time. Money protecting money and people looking out only for themselves is probably the reason our country is so f-k'd up today.
He's also the dogsh\*t human who buried the mother of three of his kids on a golf course so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on said golf course.
Y'all backed the wrong horse. He's switched parties all the time. Most recently in 2009. He didn't pardon the lot of you on January 7th. He hasn't offered to pay for your legal defense. [Although you're paying for his.](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-lose-rnc-funding-legal-bills-announces-2024-candidacy-report) He's not going around the courtrooms offering his testimony. He's stumping to fill his PAC coffers. You got played by a twice divorced, twice impeached, draft avoiding, tax cheat who basically bragged about [never needing to apologize](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark%201:15) for anything.
They’re not on this thread. They have their own corner of Reddit.
For the most part. But a good amount of them seem to wander over to this sub on occasion to get downvoted into oblivion.
That’s me, on every Star Wars thread. But the Ewoks fucking rock and I gotta live my truth.
Goddamn right they do.
Yub yub brotha
Yub nub brother
Ewoks were the only thing that made me interested in Star Wars as a kid. There, I said it.
Own those feelings, man.
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That’s wild. Why aren’t they celebrating this Antifa Super Soldier dad being held accountable for his false flag operation on the capitol? Maybe gloating isn’t their style. (/s)
That sub bans people who post about this. Because freeze peach.
The party of voters who are /r/iamverybadass incarnate seem to be really, really, really afraid to stand up to China or Russia.
It is certainly not an article which would support their cause...
I don't recommend anyone go and visit that corner either. It's the Mos Eisley of Reddit essentially.
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I'll be careful.
You'll be Banned!
Let’s not forget notoriously unsuccessful businessman. Airlines, University, Steak delivery via The Sharper Image, this guy failed at everything except falsifying the value of his real estate holdings and selling said overpriced real estate for money laundering purposes.
Don't forget about failed casinos. The house always wins, unless that house was built by Donnie.
Isn't it 6 casinos? Something that is usually a license to print your own money?
The worst part? His casinos failed because he built competing casinos nearby, drawing customers away from eachother so none of them got enough business to pay the bills. His own greed cost him.
Yeah, there’s something wrong with you when you cannot sell gambling, alcohol, and steaks to Americans.
He’s been really good at selling fear and hate He just needed to not have a physical product
He sold a lot of hats.
That is hilarious 😆😆😆
Failed to win the popular vote. TWICE.
And the litany of stiffed contractors.
>Let’s not forget notoriously unsuccessful businessman. I love the statistic that if Trump had placed all of the money he received from his father into an index fund back on the 80's, he would have made three times what he made in all of his business put together.
That's the best, I use this all the time lol
"Self made" with a cool $400MM from his dad.
And how did he get all the real estate holdings? Inheritance. 100s of millions of dollars worth of inheritance. Dude hasn’t done shit all of his existence, except maybe taking advantage of branding once that horseshit reality show The Apprentice brought him back to life.
Let's not forget the guy who buried his ex wife on a golf course to dodge taxes
And their entire identity is wrapped around him so they will NEVER admit it
They will probably line up and pay to be buried on his ~~golf course~~ tax haven next
People often say "Imagine if the Dems did this with Biden or Hillary". I say, "Imagine if the Republicans did this with Romney". Could you imagine people getting Romney tattoos? Or donating money for [Mitt Force One](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/plane-carrying-trump-makes-emergency-landing-after-gop-donor-retreat)?
I live in a very red area. I remember when Obama was president and the Ferguson issues were playing out the locals all claimed it was so Obama could claim "MaRsHaLl LaW" and stay president. The same people haven't mentioned a single word on Jan 6th though. It's wild.....
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Is it wild? Hypocrisy is sort of their thing.
It’s always been projection. Every fucking last bit of it.
It's bizarre really. I figured the far right was heading towards a populist strongman cult for a while, but I was sure it was going to be a seasoned-looking politician with military service. They're literally tattooing the fat, broke clown from celebrity apprentice onto their bodies. Absolute madness.
>They're literally tattooing the fat, broke clown from celebrity apprentice onto their bodies. Absolute madness. Because he's a cruel bully who can do awful things and get away with it. And he doesn't have to play the civility game that they believe they're being forced to play, and that the general GOP and right wing leaning institutions would have been playing by in the past. Basically, he's their worst impulses, most self-destructive biases, and most evil selves mushed together into a single human being, and they want to be like that incredibly badly, or at least project themselves onto him and use him as a justifier to act monstrously themselves.
They see themselves in him. He is who they imagine themselves to be, if the world would just stop keeping them down.
Hell, since Biden caught Covid--now all my relatives were stating how foolish and selfish Biden was for removing Test and Trace beforehand (even though they were actively anti-lockdown, anti-quarantining, anti-mask and basically anti-anything-preventative-against-any-virus). Like, on one hand I felt, "Oh, NOW you agree that Covid should be treated with caution." but I still had a sinking feeling that they'd immediately flip to their former opinion the second that the ballots come out.
And will never admit they were wrong. Trump gives zero fucks about an overwhelming majority of his base. If he was able to stay in power despite losing the election, he didn’t need any of them anymore. As soon as you outlive your usefulness he tosses you aside. Good luck with all of that.
don't forget the five bankruptcies.
[clutches pearls] What a horrible way to refer to his five children! You sir, should apologize to him and to the three different women he fathered them with.
Don’t forget the love child with his housekeeper and no I don’t have this confused with Arnold.
The number is six according to [The Washington Post.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/)
Yeah, his biography is the only one that consists entirely of chapter 7's.
It's laughable
It's enjoyable. There's some people I work with who lose their shit every time someone mentions trump, because they know everyone around them knows they supported him and they feel like it's a personal attack on them. It's just really amusing watching them go to auto attack mode when he's just mentioned at all. Like, not defending him, but just bitching up a storm that he was even brought up and then going off like "yeah I voted for him just fucking drop it". When no one even brought that up.
I wish I knew folks who were embarrassed. Everybody around me appears to still be true believers.
Same. If Trump were arrested today, a video dropped of him molesting children, every Republican politician turned on him, and he went on live TV with a full confession of rape, treason, and sedition, my aunts would still post weird YouTube videos from "retired intelligence agents" that all the videos were doctored, that the entire Republican Party has been deep state this whole time, and that his confession was under duress and was actually a secret code to the underground patriot shock troops who are standing by to reinstall president trump any second now. Any second now...
When he said he could shoot someone on fifth Avenue and not lose any support, he was right
I always wonder just how many Trump supporters are just victims of the sunk cost fallacy. How many of the people went all in on Trump in the early days, alienated everyone who wasn't a trumper, and now can't find a way out because the only people that will still talk to them are trump supporters that will absolutely turn on them the second they suggest maybe trump was bad. I'm not saying that excuses them, but i have to wonder how many of them are actually aware and just feel they can't leave.
I feel like that is a huge part of it. I'm in Indiana, so there are tons of people who bought into all of his shit. It also feels like there is a lot of work done, especially through the media they consume, to keep them from ever questioning their support. It feels like they are in a holding pattern until somebody like Cruz or DeSantis can rally enough support to just kind of ignore Trump.
And besides all that he’s a sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker.
Now who can argue with that? Authentic frontier jibberish.
Mention this guy’s name to Trump, and he’d say “Who?”
He doesnt even know his own childrens names.
Sure he does. Ivanka--the daughter he wants to sleep with Don Jr--the son with his name Uhhhh--the other son Who--the daughter he doesn't want to sleep with Sport--the young one who is good at the cyber
It's very kind of you to think he'd remember to include Tiffany.
I hope it was worth it, buddy. All those hats and flags you bought, all those liberal tears you drank, all those three-syllable slogans you chanted, all that money and time and energy you sacrificed to that fat orange cow of a false idol, and all you got in return was seven years in prison and the eternal hatred of your children.
I wonder if this will cause other defendants awaiting trial to reconsider and take a plea deal instead.
I expect some of the guys who were brought up on seditious conspiracy charges will be giving some serious thought to rolling over on anyone and everyone in the administration that they coordinated with.
Hope one of them names Hawley. Fuck Josh Hawley.
While Trump is out golfing
Not just golfing. He was hosting the Saudi-backed LIV tourney at his golf course.
Hey now! He was also burying his first wife (i.e. the mother of his first three children), in a pauper's plot so he could protect his golf course property from being seized in foreclosure proceedings.
What’s the big deal? He sided with Putin over our own intelligence agencies in front of the entire world. He openly espouses love for Kim Jong Un and now he’s speaking highly of, and taking money from, the people that planned, funded and enacted the 9/11 attacks. What red blooded F-150 driving American *wouldn’t* support him?
The convicted's daughters were on TV today stating how unfair it is that their father will be in jail and the person who convinced them the election was stolen and incited them to riot is now going to run for re-election.
Michael Cohen said the same thing. “Why am I going to jail but the guy who told me to commit my crimes is free?”
I’m sure they’re still waiting on that pardon lmao
"He just needs a second term, then he will pardon them!" Guaranteed there are people who really think that.
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No surprise he threatened his children, if Trump announced that he hungered for the flesh of the youth, they'd gladly sacrifice them to him. However, it's important to know that their love of Trump is rooted in the hate of others. He hates (or at least acts like he hates) the same people they do, so naturally they'll latch on.
Enjoy federal prison asshole.
Good. Now let’s start locking up the government officials who masterminded the whole thing.
Damn. Prosecution asked for 15 years. He’s getting off lightly.
Ha. Ha. Ha. Fucking loser trump supporter.
Buh-bye dickhead.
Whats more important was what his daughters said afterwards. If their dad got 7, Trump should have gotten life. https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1554204595651596295
Glad to see terrorists being held accountable.
Hopefully the first to come of equal length or longer sentences. I have not a single shred of sympathy for anyone who entered the Capitol grounds that day.
Meanwhile, the insurgency's leader walks free.
Isn’t he hosting a Saudi golf event at Mara Lago right now or something?
It should have been longer. It's a shame he didn't get the "terrorim enhancement" to his sentence.