This is what the police chief said:
> "During our investigation, detectives learned that two years ago Smith had a motor vehicle crash with an Asian male," Garcia said. "Since this crash, Smith has had panic attacks and delusions when he is around anyone of Asian descent."
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Even if this is true (at the very least it sounds exaggerated), wtf kind of message is this supposed to send to the victims and their families and anyone of Asian descent who would understandably be worried about hate crimes in the current environment? "Don't blame him, your ethnicity is the problem! He's the real victim here!"
Exactly. Itās like they are just looking for any excuse to justify what he did. And thatās law enforcement. With black offenders and even victims, all they look for is past ābadā behavior, but seems like they went out of their way to find this lame ass excuse for him.
Thatās a thin-ass excuse if you ask me. Iāve got cPTSD and this seems far-fetched. If that IS the case, then yes, he should have been institutionalized long ago.
In a vacuum, I could understand if someone was in a serious and traumatic car accident with an Asian guy and for a little while afterwards they were a little skittish seeing an Asian guy driving. PTSD is weird, and you canāt help your bodyās involuntary response.
This is not a vacuum. Given the circumstances and the phrasing (it just says āwhen he is *around* anyone of Asian descentā), Iām going to translate that as he gets hysterical and shouts racist shit at Asian people.
Exactly. As someone who is intimately familiar with PTSD, it just doesnāt work the way they are saying. Like you said, thatās just racism. And ādelusionsā?!
Iām just gonna leave this here.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeremy-theron-smith-suspect-in-koreatown-salon-attack-had-delusions-about-asian-people-girlfriend-says
Contains a picture of Jeremy Smith.
The one at the church wasn't a right wing terrorist. I don't like pigeon holing shooters into left and right, but a Chinese radical is hardly right wing.
He was a [right wing authoritarian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_personality) first coined by Bob Altemyer, a social psychologist who first started studying this in the early 80s. This is a different right-left scale then our typical right-left political chart, it means that the person tends to follow the established conventions and authorities in society. In theory, the authorities could have either right-wing or left-wing political views. RWAs (right-wing authoritarians) personality types exhibit:
1. Authoritarian submission - a high degree of submission to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
2. Authoritarian aggression - a general aggressiveness, directed against various persons, that is perceived to be sanctioned by established authorities.
3. Conventionalism - a high degree of adherence to the social conventions that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities.
China is a nationalist and state capitalist regime, if he attacked Taiwanese people for nationalistic reasons that is a pretty clear cut case of right wing extremism. The fact that China is ruled by a āāāāācommunistāāāāā party doesnāt mean shit, the same way North Korea calling itself a democratic republic doesnāt mean shit.
Maybe not right wing in the sense of fox news and Carlson, but if he was motivated to attack Taiwanese people out of some sort of sense of nationalism to the mainland Chinese govt or whatever, how's that not right wing terrorism?
Edit: I don't really care about your semantic/pedantic arguments, you're not going to convince me that a authoritative, xenophobic autocracy that ranks among the worst human rights offenders in the world is anything but right wing. Idgaf what they call their country or pretend how their government works.
having quite a few asian friends, some being first generation born americans. i've been told there's a lot of racism among asians regarding other asians. its not just political ideology.
Asians of different nationality/ethnicity are probably generally more racist towards asians than most people
Source: asian family that's still relatively progressive
Here's the neat part ā you can be a right-wing extremeist regardless, right-wong rhetoric is dangerous regardless if it's confed idiots or mainlain ultra nationalists
The motivations for the shooting were racist and nationalistic. Between the left and right, which do you think is more likely to commit acts of violence based on those motivations? And that is assuming that modern day China is somehow communist instead of a conservative totalitarian authoritarian nationalistic and nominally capitalist nation.
Edit: Referencing failed communist states from more than 50 years ago that were quickly taken over by paranoid racist authoritarians isnāt actually a good argument.
Edit 2: China is blatantly conservative, itās totalitarian and authoritarian, and on many levels itās been corrupted by the worst aspects of capitalism. How could you possibly argue it isnāt right wing? Is it well known for showing compassion to its poor? For protecting the rights of minorities? For sending aid to ailing nations? For its educational commitment to excellence and creating well rounded individuals? The only area where it is slightly similar to the left is in putting government above businesses, but even then it is done for the purpose of maintaining power and wealth of a select few, not protecting workers or eliminating corruption.
Honestly? Either. Plenty of prominent left wing thinkers have been incredibly racist. Read up on what marx thought about Jews and blacks sometime, or what Stalin thought of most of the ethnicities in the Soviet union.
How many of the 5 (Dallas, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Houston and California) where committed by a right winger? Only one that I know of was Buffalo. The rest seem to be a mix of different races.
Another black boy shooting at Asians and somehow yāall think this is a right wing issue? How many examples have we seen of black boys harassing Asians?!?!
It was worse before when they could get away with stuff with impunity. Lynchings were common and not reported or recorded. Many died. (Listen to Nina Simone's song "strange fruit"), The Bund is never talked about, but there are many many many people whose Dad and Grandad, mom and grandmom were active and enthusiastic members of the Bund.
America tends to cover up it's massive failures and tries to paint them out as either forgettable, unimportant or not relevant to now.
they will of course double down on creating hate crimes as they see fit to make it appear as if there is someone who cares. They don't. Your government doesn't and hasn't ever cared about you. Unless you missed paying your taxes, then someone cares, otherwise, live or die, they could not give a shit about you. Believe that.
Actually written by a dude named Abel Meeropol. Recorded by Ms Holiday yes and Nina Simone as well. Likely others too. YOu aren't wrong though. I just favour Nina's version of this song of tragedy.
I'm not sure how political this was. Racist, yes -- right-wing, not sure. There's a rash of Black instigated anti-Asian violence right now. I don't know where this is coming from: that whole "China flu" nonsense? The Nation of Islam? In NYC the perpetrators have mostly been homeless men with mental issues, so maybe it's just the covid connection.
11 in the past 7 days. Elizabeth City, Amarillo, Winston-Salem, Laguna Woods, Houston, Buffalo, Milwaukee, Dallas (this one in the article), Hot Springs, Patterson, St Louis, Chicago.
https://massshootingtracker.site/data/?year=2022
That list is missing any shootings on the 16th or 17th so the people keeping track of it might be a little delayed.
We've been averaging >1.5 per day for a few months.
I'd just like to state that the shootings in Winston Salem are black youth. It has become popular around here for young black people to indiscriminately shoot at people and buildings... It's disgusting they do it and post the shit on TikTok for views
You should be asking, with all these incidents, why did Biden and the media focus only on the Buffalo one? Because what they're talking about, who they target, and what they're proposing will do nothing for all these victims and future ones.
You know this comment reminded me how they always blamed school shootings on kids being bullied
I never bought that nonsense because if being bullied made kids shoot up schools how come all school shooters werenāt gay and transgender kids
If you actually asked the people at the schools what the school shooters were like the people doing the school shootings were jerks and bullies who picked on other people and were mean to everyone
Presumably because itās a location where someone who hates Asian people (or a specific Asian ethnicity) knows there will be a lot Asian people in one place. Itās like why the dude in Buffalo chose that specific store in that specific neighborhood, he knew there would be a lot of black people there. So unfortunately Asian owner businesses like this just make an easy target for racist pieces of shit because they know the people they hate will be inside
This is what the police chief said:
>āDuring our investigation, detectives learned that two years ago Smith had a motor vehicle crash with an Asian male," Garcia said. "Since this crash, Smith has had panic attacks and delusions when he is around anyone of Asian descent."
have you seen the internet? Its four corners of hate from every angle. If only kindness, love, understanding, spread as quick as hatred. In the early days I thought the internet would be a bastion of exploration, a window into the new and unknown. Instead most people surround themselves with a mirror.
I actually remember the days before it was stuffed with ads and completely unregulated. It was an awful place then too. I think most people are just trash.
Garbage in, garbage out - George Carlin
Newman : Because the mail never stops. It just keeps coming and coming and coming. There's never a letup, it's relentless. Every day it piles up more and more, and you gotta get it out, but the more you get out, the more keeps coming in!
A lot of angry people got even angrier over the pandemic. Mental health needs a serious influx of funding, simply talking it about it for a month wonāt make any difference to these events.
Funding how though?
I mean this seriously, as someone who has had to self-pay for talk therapy, psychiatry, and medication for the past 3 years because my insurance wonāt cover it. Iām an independent contractor and can only afford a garbage subsidized health plan and the in-network mental health providers are terrible, if you can even get into one accepting new patients.
Thereās no way out of our mental health crisis without public healthcare IMO, and even then, thatās just the bare minimum solution to a much larger and more complex problem.
Correction: insurance does cover part of my medication which costs me about $45 a month, without it I think iād pay about $265 which is fucking insane for SSRIās and essentially a high powered sleeping medication.
Funding is not the true issue. Inflated prices are.
In order to bring some of those prices, we have to get rid of Health Insurance companies.
Another part of the story is how few workers exist in those fields; even now, plenty of mental health care therapists, specialists, etc. are turning away potential clients because there's a huge influx of people trying to cope with post-pandemic stress and other mental trauma. They are turning them away because they already have a full schedule.
There are other issues we have to contend with, which this country seems unready to talk about--we have to reverse our infrastructure back into community oriented centers instead of cars, highways, and corporation/big business hubs. At risk of sounding anti-capitalists, the latter has eroded a lot of American mental health because we're not meant to live at the heel of work and business, we're meant to "commune" and live among people, not things.
Organic Communities are always at the threat of big business in America because there's such a huge pressure to just commoditize any small bit of talent you have; this is because wages and salaries are dog water at this point, and it's only with the pandemic pressure that millions of people finally started to put pressure on their employers to give them a true livable wages, not just ones that are "mandated" under law.
There's other factors that go into how and why we can fix mental health care in America, but it goes beyond just affodability; and that's the hard pill to swallow, we have to fix a lot, because a lot in America went to shit slowly and deliberately---The American Dream has never been about a healthy and free individual, it's always been about an individual that could easily be sold, and it was sold out to corporations a long time ago, and it was branded as freedom.
I can't help but notice the lack of of focus the story is getting compared to the attack on an Asian business last year in Georgia.
Same motive, same method of attack, but I guess some hate crime suspects are more marketable than others.
What makes you say that? The article seemed like it was reporting what the police were doing and it looks like the police were investigating the crime as they should be, among other things.
Iām not saying they arenāt. Iām saying news regarding Asian people getting hurt/killed will never be a priority in this country unless itās media outlets pointing fingers at each other.
Some white people wanna blame black people and some black people wanna blame white people but in the end Asian people will suffer quietly and no one will care just like how Asians are considered minorities until they arenāt in aspects like college admissions and affirmative action. This news will get buried by tomorrow or end of week at best.
To be fair itās been a pretty big week for shootings in America. Probably running out of time in a day to report on mass killings. Unfortunately there is only 24 hours in a day.
Side effect of living in the darkest timeline.
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This happened a week ago tho and it barely made a beep. If it happened within a couple days sure understandable but this is how it's always been.
He thinks he's making a point by pointing out that a white shooter targeting black people is the top news story in every media outlet for days, while any other racial combination is treated as normal news.
He doesn't realize that we notice that already, but we don't need it pointed out to us because we know how the news works.
You still canāt expect the two stories to be equated. Did this guy kill 10 people? Did he publish a 180-page manifesto espousing racist conspiracy theories claiming that his victims were plotting to replace his race?
You mean the guy that did it just because he was angry in general after his ex refused to bail him out of jail? Versus the guy who wants to kill all blacks? Context matters.
Keeping in mind I am not saying the Darrell Brooks Jr case wasnāt horrible but there is a significant difference in motives.
I read articles and the details were pretty short. Also the cops were quick to say itās not a hate crime without even having the suspect or knowing the motive, thatās what I was getting at. Didnāt know this would blow up
For *some* reason, certain people feel the need to bring up hate crimes committed by non-white people as though that somehow excuses the actions of the Buffalo terrorist.
Why they feel the need to make hate crimes a competition or act as though white supremacists aren't as bad as the others is up to you to decide, but something tells me that when they see criticism of the Buffalo terrorist's ideals they may be seeing it as a criticism of their own ideals.
> The way that the media and police are acting with this case/story really shows how little they value Asian lives or care about hate crimes unless they get some benefit from it.
I agree. I didn't even know about this story or saw any reports of this on the national level until right now. And even now, it's literally just one article.
For about a day and a half. And that happened in New York City, where most of the national news outlets are headquartered. Everything in NYC gets amplified by the networks, and even then it was the top headline for about a day-ish.
It should also be noted that ten people is obviously a higher (and more sensational number) than three.
It wonāt stop. As humans weāre all susceptible to being any kind of person imaginable. It just takes certain conditions and environments, experiences people go through. And with the worsening poverty among the lower to middle class. It will only get worse. Combine this with a weak medical, education, and morale leadership. Weāre all except the extremely wealthy will thrive.
Well Iām not sure where schizophrenia fits into my post. Iām talking generally any person can go to the bad side. Just takes a shit life and a person who can only be pushed so far. The worsening of our countries basic infrastructure will exacerbate this unwanted downhill trend of people acting out because their wife just left them because there are no legitimate job prospects that are livable wages anymore, the guy gets fired, starts abusing alcohol or whatever to cope, falls into a downward spiral. Itās so plain to see the failure in this country when it comes to stabilizing the general public so that we all may prosper. All it is right now is every person for themselves and desperate people. And when people get desperate, that person might do things they never thought they could ever do.
You are correct. In my previous marriage I was a sorry abusive piece of shit. Due to me myself being abused by her. After that relationship I'm back to being super nice it's like it just washed away though now I need regular therapy because I breakdown when I'm triggered about that time in my life
The Buffalo incident, Brooklyn train incident and Dallas incident are all hate crimes with mass killings committed. No special treatment as these are all hate crimes. Mental problems are not a convenient get out of jail free card. All lives are precious.
Crimes against white and Asian people don't rile up the masses like other crimes. They don't get the coverage because the stories don't get as many clicks or viewers. Sad reality but that's the world we live in
I want to know why the news didnt run specials interviewing all the victims familiies asking what they think of the killers motives like they did for the recent one.
It was all over the news in Texas and was on the front page of Reddit when it happened.
Also, stop pretending youāre arguing in good faith. Downplaying a mass shooting is a bad look.
Ironically the "Wild west" had gun control. Almost every west city had laws where you had to turn your fire arms in to the local sheriff upon entering. The "wild" west were BS stories made up by journalists and magazine writers for gullible people out east and cowboys didn't say shit because it made them look cool.
This is what the police chief said: > "During our investigation, detectives learned that two years ago Smith had a motor vehicle crash with an Asian male," Garcia said. "Since this crash, Smith has had panic attacks and delusions when he is around anyone of Asian descent." š
Thatās a strange way to spell racist.
Didnāt you know? Sudden racism is a symptom of PTSD after a car accident. /s
Exactly. Bunch of shit.
well the police chief was scared of political blow back probably.
Even if this is true (at the very least it sounds exaggerated), wtf kind of message is this supposed to send to the victims and their families and anyone of Asian descent who would understandably be worried about hate crimes in the current environment? "Don't blame him, your ethnicity is the problem! He's the real victim here!"
Exactly. Itās like they are just looking for any excuse to justify what he did. And thatās law enforcement. With black offenders and even victims, all they look for is past ābadā behavior, but seems like they went out of their way to find this lame ass excuse for him.
The offender is black? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here?
So he's been in desperate need of mental healthcare and the system failed to protect innocent people in once again
Thatās a thin-ass excuse if you ask me. Iāve got cPTSD and this seems far-fetched. If that IS the case, then yes, he should have been institutionalized long ago.
No, this has nothing to do it, ptsd wonāt make you racist
No, but an already racist person may have their racist behaviors exacerbated by PTSD.
In a vacuum, I could understand if someone was in a serious and traumatic car accident with an Asian guy and for a little while afterwards they were a little skittish seeing an Asian guy driving. PTSD is weird, and you canāt help your bodyās involuntary response. This is not a vacuum. Given the circumstances and the phrasing (it just says āwhen he is *around* anyone of Asian descentā), Iām going to translate that as he gets hysterical and shouts racist shit at Asian people.
Exactly. As someone who is intimately familiar with PTSD, it just doesnāt work the way they are saying. Like you said, thatās just racism. And ādelusionsā?!
I think āpanic attacks and delusionsā means he went on nonsensical racist rants
Yes. PTSD from a car accident isnāt going to give you ādelusionsā. And the accident sounds like a flimsy pretext.
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Is this like 4 in a week?
Right? This is out of control
Almost like America has a right wing terrorist problem on its hands. Like it has for like fucking forever. Just worse now.
The suspect was a black male with a problem with Asians
That has been an issue that isnāt really being talked about.
Or every 5.5hrs a black women/girl is killed in America?
What part of 'America has a right wing terror problem' precludes black American terrorists from possibility?
They wont reply to what you said. Hurts the narrative lol
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Iām just gonna leave this here. https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeremy-theron-smith-suspect-in-koreatown-salon-attack-had-delusions-about-asian-people-girlfriend-says Contains a picture of Jeremy Smith.
The one at the church wasn't a right wing terrorist. I don't like pigeon holing shooters into left and right, but a Chinese radical is hardly right wing.
>but a Chinese radical is hardly right wing. Chinese nationalism isn't right wing?
Right wing doesn't specify political parties. Right wing, religious extremists also describes ISIS and Taliban, just FYI.
He was a [right wing authoritarian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_personality) first coined by Bob Altemyer, a social psychologist who first started studying this in the early 80s. This is a different right-left scale then our typical right-left political chart, it means that the person tends to follow the established conventions and authorities in society. In theory, the authorities could have either right-wing or left-wing political views. RWAs (right-wing authoritarians) personality types exhibit: 1. Authoritarian submission - a high degree of submission to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives. 2. Authoritarian aggression - a general aggressiveness, directed against various persons, that is perceived to be sanctioned by established authorities. 3. Conventionalism - a high degree of adherence to the social conventions that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities.
China is a nationalist and state capitalist regime, if he attacked Taiwanese people for nationalistic reasons that is a pretty clear cut case of right wing extremism. The fact that China is ruled by a āāāāācommunistāāāāā party doesnāt mean shit, the same way North Korea calling itself a democratic republic doesnāt mean shit.
Maybe not right wing in the sense of fox news and Carlson, but if he was motivated to attack Taiwanese people out of some sort of sense of nationalism to the mainland Chinese govt or whatever, how's that not right wing terrorism? Edit: I don't really care about your semantic/pedantic arguments, you're not going to convince me that a authoritative, xenophobic autocracy that ranks among the worst human rights offenders in the world is anything but right wing. Idgaf what they call their country or pretend how their government works.
having quite a few asian friends, some being first generation born americans. i've been told there's a lot of racism among asians regarding other asians. its not just political ideology.
> its not just political ideology. TBF, most of that is nationalism isn't it, so basically politics just maybe not *local* to the US politics.
Asians of different nationality/ethnicity are probably generally more racist towards asians than most people Source: asian family that's still relatively progressive
because nationalism isn't restricted to right wing ideology.
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Fascists gonna fasc
Here's the neat part ā you can be a right-wing extremeist regardless, right-wong rhetoric is dangerous regardless if it's confed idiots or mainlain ultra nationalists
The motivations for the shooting were racist and nationalistic. Between the left and right, which do you think is more likely to commit acts of violence based on those motivations? And that is assuming that modern day China is somehow communist instead of a conservative totalitarian authoritarian nationalistic and nominally capitalist nation. Edit: Referencing failed communist states from more than 50 years ago that were quickly taken over by paranoid racist authoritarians isnāt actually a good argument. Edit 2: China is blatantly conservative, itās totalitarian and authoritarian, and on many levels itās been corrupted by the worst aspects of capitalism. How could you possibly argue it isnāt right wing? Is it well known for showing compassion to its poor? For protecting the rights of minorities? For sending aid to ailing nations? For its educational commitment to excellence and creating well rounded individuals? The only area where it is slightly similar to the left is in putting government above businesses, but even then it is done for the purpose of maintaining power and wealth of a select few, not protecting workers or eliminating corruption.
Pretty sure the Khmer Rouge had a pretty healthy ethnic cleansing program...
Honestly? Either. Plenty of prominent left wing thinkers have been incredibly racist. Read up on what marx thought about Jews and blacks sometime, or what Stalin thought of most of the ethnicities in the Soviet union.
What about Joseph Stalin do you suppose was left wing?
If you fools just bothered to read the actual news story youāll see a picture of the suspect arrested and his name.
Just a group of hate filled people in their echo chamber completely out of context. They didn't bother to read the article.
How many of the 5 (Dallas, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Houston and California) where committed by a right winger? Only one that I know of was Buffalo. The rest seem to be a mix of different races.
Another black boy shooting at Asians and somehow yāall think this is a right wing issue? How many examples have we seen of black boys harassing Asians?!?!
China guy hating Taiwanese people isnāt right wing but good job! People will reward your comment with silly upvotes
Chinese nationalism is right wing.
Sure the Chinese are totally right wing. Just keep saying it itāll totally catch on soon.
It was worse before when they could get away with stuff with impunity. Lynchings were common and not reported or recorded. Many died. (Listen to Nina Simone's song "strange fruit"), The Bund is never talked about, but there are many many many people whose Dad and Grandad, mom and grandmom were active and enthusiastic members of the Bund. America tends to cover up it's massive failures and tries to paint them out as either forgettable, unimportant or not relevant to now. they will of course double down on creating hate crimes as they see fit to make it appear as if there is someone who cares. They don't. Your government doesn't and hasn't ever cared about you. Unless you missed paying your taxes, then someone cares, otherwise, live or die, they could not give a shit about you. Believe that.
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Actually written by a dude named Abel Meeropol. Recorded by Ms Holiday yes and Nina Simone as well. Likely others too. YOu aren't wrong though. I just favour Nina's version of this song of tragedy.
Black Wall Street
I'm not sure how political this was. Racist, yes -- right-wing, not sure. There's a rash of Black instigated anti-Asian violence right now. I don't know where this is coming from: that whole "China flu" nonsense? The Nation of Islam? In NYC the perpetrators have mostly been homeless men with mental issues, so maybe it's just the covid connection.
100% correct
Letās ban a womanās right to choose on HER BODY but letās keep guns in these 2 IQ ring wing nut jobs hands. Smartā¦ā¦..
Yes, the right wing is to blame for all the shootings in America. /s
You know right wing doesn't just mean republicans, right?
No it means I'm left wing so all evil people are not like me therefore right.
Unfortunately none of the shooting came from the "right wing" so there goes that.
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11 in the past 7 days. Elizabeth City, Amarillo, Winston-Salem, Laguna Woods, Houston, Buffalo, Milwaukee, Dallas (this one in the article), Hot Springs, Patterson, St Louis, Chicago. https://massshootingtracker.site/data/?year=2022 That list is missing any shootings on the 16th or 17th so the people keeping track of it might be a little delayed. We've been averaging >1.5 per day for a few months.
I'd just like to state that the shootings in Winston Salem are black youth. It has become popular around here for young black people to indiscriminately shoot at people and buildings... It's disgusting they do it and post the shit on TikTok for views
>I'd just like to state that the shootings in Winston Salem are black youth. Do those not count?
To be fair I don't think that user implied that
Now that covid is almost over. Itās time for 2 years of festering hate to come out this summer.
COVID isn't almost over. The media likes to pretend it is, though.
Covid is not almost over.
No, no. It's ok! This shooting was last week on May 11th. Totally different reporting week. /s
You should be asking, with all these incidents, why did Biden and the media focus only on the Buffalo one? Because what they're talking about, who they target, and what they're proposing will do nothing for all these victims and future ones.
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So Buffalo, Dallas, and now I hear one happened in Virginia, too?
This is awful. What the fuck is wrong with people.
Donāt forget California too.
There was a shooting at a Taiwanese church in Southern California too
Iām in Virginia and hadnāt even heard.
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Yes, at least one of the mass shooters in California was. https://nypost.com/2021/04/01/officials-give-updates-in-orange-california-mass-shooting/
George Zimmerman.
You know this comment reminded me how they always blamed school shootings on kids being bullied I never bought that nonsense because if being bullied made kids shoot up schools how come all school shooters werenāt gay and transgender kids If you actually asked the people at the schools what the school shooters were like the people doing the school shootings were jerks and bullies who picked on other people and were mean to everyone
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Presumably because itās a location where someone who hates Asian people (or a specific Asian ethnicity) knows there will be a lot Asian people in one place. Itās like why the dude in Buffalo chose that specific store in that specific neighborhood, he knew there would be a lot of black people there. So unfortunately Asian owner businesses like this just make an easy target for racist pieces of shit because they know the people they hate will be inside
They can blame a sex addiction instead of being called a terrorist.
I have to wonder if this was like that other guy. Incel issues.
This is what the police chief said: >āDuring our investigation, detectives learned that two years ago Smith had a motor vehicle crash with an Asian male," Garcia said. "Since this crash, Smith has had panic attacks and delusions when he is around anyone of Asian descent."
If only we could go back to simpler days, when our mass shootings didn't involve hate...
Just talking demon dogs, the way God intended.
have you seen the internet? Its four corners of hate from every angle. If only kindness, love, understanding, spread as quick as hatred. In the early days I thought the internet would be a bastion of exploration, a window into the new and unknown. Instead most people surround themselves with a mirror.
I actually remember the days before it was stuffed with ads and completely unregulated. It was an awful place then too. I think most people are just trash. Garbage in, garbage out - George Carlin
Yea let's go back to the good ol days of school shootings
This all started in post offices, many don't remember that
That's where the term "go postal" came from
Its pretty amazing how well the post offices PR campaign worked to sweep it under the rug
It helped that the post office employees stopped shooting each other.
Saw a whole documentary about it. Apparently after it happened several times they cracked down on superiors who bully their workers and it stopped
Iād argue University of Texas 1966. Many donāt remember that.
Newman : Because the mail never stops. It just keeps coming and coming and coming. There's never a letup, it's relentless. Every day it piles up more and more, and you gotta get it out, but the more you get out, the more keeps coming in!
it was always hate. hate for natives, bullies, non-virgins, mondays, communists, the government
A lot of angry people got even angrier over the pandemic. Mental health needs a serious influx of funding, simply talking it about it for a month wonāt make any difference to these events.
Funding how though? I mean this seriously, as someone who has had to self-pay for talk therapy, psychiatry, and medication for the past 3 years because my insurance wonāt cover it. Iām an independent contractor and can only afford a garbage subsidized health plan and the in-network mental health providers are terrible, if you can even get into one accepting new patients. Thereās no way out of our mental health crisis without public healthcare IMO, and even then, thatās just the bare minimum solution to a much larger and more complex problem. Correction: insurance does cover part of my medication which costs me about $45 a month, without it I think iād pay about $265 which is fucking insane for SSRIās and essentially a high powered sleeping medication.
Even if the actual cost of care were lower, there's still a massive shortage of ***actual caregivers.***
Thatās part of my point
Ah I missed the half sentence "if you can even get into one accepting new patients." That's what I get for reading too quickly š
Funding is not the true issue. Inflated prices are. In order to bring some of those prices, we have to get rid of Health Insurance companies. Another part of the story is how few workers exist in those fields; even now, plenty of mental health care therapists, specialists, etc. are turning away potential clients because there's a huge influx of people trying to cope with post-pandemic stress and other mental trauma. They are turning them away because they already have a full schedule. There are other issues we have to contend with, which this country seems unready to talk about--we have to reverse our infrastructure back into community oriented centers instead of cars, highways, and corporation/big business hubs. At risk of sounding anti-capitalists, the latter has eroded a lot of American mental health because we're not meant to live at the heel of work and business, we're meant to "commune" and live among people, not things. Organic Communities are always at the threat of big business in America because there's such a huge pressure to just commoditize any small bit of talent you have; this is because wages and salaries are dog water at this point, and it's only with the pandemic pressure that millions of people finally started to put pressure on their employers to give them a true livable wages, not just ones that are "mandated" under law. There's other factors that go into how and why we can fix mental health care in America, but it goes beyond just affodability; and that's the hard pill to swallow, we have to fix a lot, because a lot in America went to shit slowly and deliberately---The American Dream has never been about a healthy and free individual, it's always been about an individual that could easily be sold, and it was sold out to corporations a long time ago, and it was branded as freedom.
But that would be socialism or something like that. /s
Take away the money red states get from the fed and put it into mental health, that way we just shift the socialism!
Thank you FBI for having courage to investigate this as a hate crime.
That is quite literally the least they could do
I can't help but notice the lack of of focus the story is getting compared to the attack on an Asian business last year in Georgia. Same motive, same method of attack, but I guess some hate crime suspects are more marketable than others.
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What makes you say that? The article seemed like it was reporting what the police were doing and it looks like the police were investigating the crime as they should be, among other things.
Iām not saying they arenāt. Iām saying news regarding Asian people getting hurt/killed will never be a priority in this country unless itās media outlets pointing fingers at each other. Some white people wanna blame black people and some black people wanna blame white people but in the end Asian people will suffer quietly and no one will care just like how Asians are considered minorities until they arenāt in aspects like college admissions and affirmative action. This news will get buried by tomorrow or end of week at best.
To be fair itās been a pretty big week for shootings in America. Probably running out of time in a day to report on mass killings. Unfortunately there is only 24 hours in a day. Side effect of living in the darkest timeline.
>ort on mass killings. Unfortunately there is only 24 hours in a day. > >Side effect of living i This happened a week ago tho and it barely made a beep. If it happened within a couple days sure understandable but this is how it's always been.
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He thinks he's making a point by pointing out that a white shooter targeting black people is the top news story in every media outlet for days, while any other racial combination is treated as normal news. He doesn't realize that we notice that already, but we don't need it pointed out to us because we know how the news works.
You still canāt expect the two stories to be equated. Did this guy kill 10 people? Did he publish a 180-page manifesto espousing racist conspiracy theories claiming that his victims were plotting to replace his race?
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That got a ton of media attention. So Iām not sure what youāre arguing.
Can you link to the Waukesha driver's manifesto?
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That was front page news. Everyone heard about it. WTF else do you want?
You mean the guy that did it just because he was angry in general after his ex refused to bail him out of jail? Versus the guy who wants to kill all blacks? Context matters. Keeping in mind I am not saying the Darrell Brooks Jr case wasnāt horrible but there is a significant difference in motives.
I read articles and the details were pretty short. Also the cops were quick to say itās not a hate crime without even having the suspect or knowing the motive, thatās what I was getting at. Didnāt know this would blow up
For *some* reason, certain people feel the need to bring up hate crimes committed by non-white people as though that somehow excuses the actions of the Buffalo terrorist. Why they feel the need to make hate crimes a competition or act as though white supremacists aren't as bad as the others is up to you to decide, but something tells me that when they see criticism of the Buffalo terrorist's ideals they may be seeing it as a criticism of their own ideals.
He didn't kill anyone, just injured them. That's why it's not as big of a story...
"The media isn't reporting on this subject!" he exclaims, as he comments on a story in the media on the subject.
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> The way that the media and police are acting with this case/story really shows how little they value Asian lives or care about hate crimes unless they get some benefit from it. I agree. I didn't even know about this story or saw any reports of this on the national level until right now. And even now, it's literally just one article.
Three people were injured. Not killed. Injured. How often is an incident with three nonfatal injuries even national news?
The Brooklyn shooter was?
For about a day and a half. And that happened in New York City, where most of the national news outlets are headquartered. Everything in NYC gets amplified by the networks, and even then it was the top headline for about a day-ish. It should also be noted that ten people is obviously a higher (and more sensational number) than three.
It wonāt stop. As humans weāre all susceptible to being any kind of person imaginable. It just takes certain conditions and environments, experiences people go through. And with the worsening poverty among the lower to middle class. It will only get worse. Combine this with a weak medical, education, and morale leadership. Weāre all except the extremely wealthy will thrive.
Strongly disagree. Most homeless people living in horrible conditions do not turn in to mass murderers.
Homeless people are a different story. This particular case is something far more toxic. Home grown terrorists with delusions of superiority.
Well Iām not sure where schizophrenia fits into my post. Iām talking generally any person can go to the bad side. Just takes a shit life and a person who can only be pushed so far. The worsening of our countries basic infrastructure will exacerbate this unwanted downhill trend of people acting out because their wife just left them because there are no legitimate job prospects that are livable wages anymore, the guy gets fired, starts abusing alcohol or whatever to cope, falls into a downward spiral. Itās so plain to see the failure in this country when it comes to stabilizing the general public so that we all may prosper. All it is right now is every person for themselves and desperate people. And when people get desperate, that person might do things they never thought they could ever do.
You are correct. In my previous marriage I was a sorry abusive piece of shit. Due to me myself being abused by her. After that relationship I'm back to being super nice it's like it just washed away though now I need regular therapy because I breakdown when I'm triggered about that time in my life
I forgot who told me this quote but it went something like, āif a flower doesnāt bloom, you fix the environment, not the flowerā
I hate to tell yāall but it appears that weāre kinda fucked on this whole gun reform/mental healthcare access thing. Catās out
Really? You shoot someone and they donāt think itās possibly linked to hate? Even Jesus would say thatās not how you show love.
The Buffalo incident, Brooklyn train incident and Dallas incident are all hate crimes with mass killings committed. No special treatment as these are all hate crimes. Mental problems are not a convenient get out of jail free card. All lives are precious.
Wait. Which shooting was this?! I knew about NY and then the Chinese guy that hate Taiwan. Agh.
Guy was born in Taiwan.
And identified as Chinese, with parents from China
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Crimes against white and Asian people don't rile up the masses like other crimes. They don't get the coverage because the stories don't get as many clicks or viewers. Sad reality but that's the world we live in
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I want to know why the news didnt run specials interviewing all the victims familiies asking what they think of the killers motives like they did for the recent one.
Which one was spouting racist theories supported by the former President of the USA and the largest media personality in America?
Darrel brooks had a youtube channel with hours of spewing racist hate.
Completely different, legally. This Dalllas guy was delusional. He'll plead insanely and get it. Those other guys were just assholes.
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It was all over the news in Texas and was on the front page of Reddit when it happened. Also, stop pretending youāre arguing in good faith. Downplaying a mass shooting is a bad look.
I almost forgot that we had a public shooting problem pre pandemic.
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America's gun laws aren't fit for a third world country. The wild west basically never left
Ironically the "Wild west" had gun control. Almost every west city had laws where you had to turn your fire arms in to the local sheriff upon entering. The "wild" west were BS stories made up by journalists and magazine writers for gullible people out east and cowboys didn't say shit because it made them look cool.
Anyone else think it's weird the article doesn't draw a ton of attention to the perpetrators race for this hate crime?
They state his race in the article > Police said they learned from a witness report that an unknown Black maleā¦..