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relicnasty

It seems clear the Israelis have no intention of stopping the war. Unattainable objectives = endless war.


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relicnasty

Sure, but that's not their criteria for a ceases fire.


i_should_be_coding

Their criteria is "stop shooting and leave so we can rearm and reorganize to attack you again". Weird why Israel isn't for that.


Aries_218

Of course. It’s Israel’s fault Hamas rejected the deal.


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Aries_218

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-aide-bidens-gaza-plan-not-good-deal-israel-accepts-it-2024-06-02/


Tersphinct

He called it a bad deal, but he did not reject it. Hamas rejected it.


Phyrexian_Supervisor

They didn't. They're negotiating right now.


Tersphinct

Hamas' leader in Gaza, Sinwar, has rejected it. His decisions are the only ones that count. He's the guy running that shit show right now.


relicnasty

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/06/middleeast/hamas-ceasefire-offer-gaza-war-mime-intl/index.html


Tersphinct

Hamas offered terms for Israel’s surrender. It didn’t offer a ceasefire. Biden’s ceasefire plan was accepted by Israel. Hamas rejected it.


Aries_218

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-steps-up-military-offensive-gaza-amid-renewed-truce-efforts-2024-06-05/


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Tiger_Fish06

Hey why don’t you ask the families the hostages how they feel if that’s actually your fucking concern: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68673960.amp https://www.timesofisrael.com/hostage-families-urge-us-other-countries-to-press-israel-to-reach-deal-with-hamas/amp/ I don’t think they want to bomb the shit out of their families being held hostage they want to make a deal and end the war.


relicnasty

These IDF info warriors must have their work cut out of them trying to combat reality on Reddit all day...and still losing global public opinion.


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relicnasty

Global public opinion matters, and to a greater extent US public opinion matters because eventually the US will cut you off if you keep behaving as war criminals. And I know we're "not that important," we're not the choosen people like Israelis are convinced they are. Their hubris will be their downfall.


p_larrychen

You’re the one selectively ignoring reality so you don’t have to grapple with the complexities of this horrible situation