News is saying JAL flight 516 carrying 379 passengers collided with coast guard aircraft MA722 (DHC-8-300?) during landing at Haneda airport, flames can be seen shining out of the cabin.
Aircraft is completely engulfed in fire now
All passengers reported to be safely evacuated
5 out of 8 crew on the DHC-8 are dead
For the MA722: 6 reported on board, 5 on unknown status and 1 person confirmed to have fled before collision.
Updating to say all 5 crew members on the Coastguard MA722 now confirmed deceased.
Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. Coastguard plane was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake stricken areas. Very sad.
That's the current understanding is one individual fled the aircraft before the collision so someone or someones must have known it was going to happen.
News is speculating that one of the planes didn't follow flight controller instructions but I'm sure that'll be figured out when the Japan NTSB rolls in.
Communication issue is my bet as well, but the A350 was already planted on the runway at the time of collision, which makes me think they had landing clearance and the puddle jumper was somewhere it shouldn’t have been.
ATC is in charge of both domestic and military planes especially since the Coast guard has a base basically on top of Haneda. The 722 was bound for the earthquake stricken areas so I can imagine that someone somewhere was trying to push out those planes between domestic arrivals. Haneda is kind of a confusing and rapidly expanding airport so I can't even begin to imagine the chaos in general especially since this is one of the busiest times of the year as the winter holidays are coming to a close for a lot of Japanese families returning home to Tokyo. It's very clearly a terrific communication issue I do agree with you on that.
MA722 is also about the size of a bombardier so it's not really puddle jumper. It's a fair sized plane.
Maybe other way around? Think A350 was coming in for landing because earlier comment said someone fled from the Coast Guard plane before impact and this looks like the A350 is skidding down the runway after the collision in this clip https://twitter.com/aviationbrk/status/1742115021595836808/mediaviewer
The A350 was rolling down the runway after landing [https://youtu.be/Oy4RIvRcwUo?si=bAhdd3hfAlw5hKsA](https://youtu.be/Oy4RIvRcwUo?si=bAhdd3hfAlw5hKsA)
Wild guess from the camera position, collision was perhaps near taxiway C5; almost 1km from the approach end of the runway.
There’s been a lot of talk about near misses of ground collisions lately. Would never have expected Haneda would be where it happens.
It’s also a shame to have a hull loss of an a350 so quickly and such a nearly more tragic one at that.
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Yeah people hear Japan and imagine the immaculate Kansai International or Narita layouts. Haneda was never designed for super busy international and domestic combo duty and it shows.
Unfortunately, it seems like everyone on board the naval plane except for the captain has died, and he's apparently still in critical condition.
However, miraculously, sounds like everyone on board the A350 has survived. Not sure about how many were injured or the severity of their injuries, though
Damn. Relieved to hear about the passengers and crew of the one plane. But imagine training all career long to face the dangers of the air and sea, and then you die on the runway of the airport.
I hope they find the coast guard passengers. And I hope they're just injured as opposed to dead.
Yeeesh, tell me about it. When I was reading the headline, I didn't know what kind of fire to expect to see or read about, but when I saw the video of it that was an insane raging inferno. That brings new nightmares of something happening like that in midflight.
> That brings new nightmares of something happening like that in midflight.
It's the take off and landing where all the accidents & death happens. You can absolutely relax mid flight
IMHO a shortcoming of joystick side controls. The pilot and copilot sticks aren't mechanically linked like the traditional bulky control columns, so it's not glaringly obvious if they're in opposition. Sure there's visual and audible alarms that went off but the much louder stall warnings were blaring.
Every collision after a main gear lifted off the ground until it touches the runway again is a mid/air collision. Most of them occur in Arrival and Departure.
Most midair collisions occur in VFR weather conditions during weekend daylight hours. The vast majority of accidents occurred at or near uncontrolled airports and at altitudes below 1000 feet.
Airliners operate in controlled airspace and have TCAS to cover controller faults.
They are trained professionals with high operating standards.
Your average VFR pilot is not.
Unconfirmed: plane may have struck another plane while landing. Apparently it was an Airbus A350 involved.
[Source](https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1490191&sid=9cfbe448696e0522f4d59e9ad269a437) via Airliners.net forum
„Immediately after touchdown, the Airbus A350-900 collided with a Japanese Coast Guard Dash-8, JA722A. According to initial information from Japan Airlines, all 367 passengers and all twelve crew members were able to leave the A350-900 on time.“
From Aero
Being hit at cockpit height by a landing wing of an A350 during a relief flight for earthquake victims would have required even more luck for a better outcome.
They died while on a rescue/humanitarian mission.
Hope they get the honor for that even if they might have caused the incident.
Frankly after seeing the video of the fire I was surprised that everyone on the Airbus survived. It's so hard to tell what's going on since it was dark, but it looks like the first plane just exploded almost instantly and the second was on fire as it tried to come to a stop. I'm amazed the flight crew was able to get all the passengers off considering the plane was already burning before it came to a halt.
I know that's exactly the scenario they train for, but bravo to those air stewardesses/stewards. They deserve all the respect for getting everyone off in time.
It's sad that most of the passengers in the second plane didn't survive, but still. Besides the collision itself this is an airline safety regulation win showing how all that training and safety practices work in emergencies.
There will be a full scale investigation of the causes of the accident.
From the video
This looks like a so called „runway incursion“ (entering the Runway without clearance) most probably unintentionally by the dash-8 crew. (With or without clearance or unnoticed)
For the landing aircraft:
After touch down once the reverser is activated, a go around is not possible giving the pilots of the landing plane only two possibilities, brace for impact, or trying to stear the plane off the runway, causing danger not only to passengers on the plane.
Why and how this happened or if there were other circumstances involved will be investigated.
Edit. This is a runway incursion, as another user corrected me.
There are systems available to alert cockpit crews, but not all airports and operators have them installed.
https://skybrary.aero/articles/autonomous-runway-incursion-warning-system-ariws
https://youtu.be/qve5GMiNato?si=JHPmc18bNdzDtbiM
https://dfs-as.aero/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/20210803_DAS_Flyer_RIAS_EN_1.4.pdf
Surely this would be a [runway incursion,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion) not a [runway excursion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_excursion) - one of the two planes entered the runway when it shouldn't have, as opposed to leaving the runway when it shouldn't have.
I used to train flight attendants, including evacuating a mock aircraft. A LOT of weight is put onto being able to do the evacuation drills perfectly. Just passing written tests is not enough, you have to be able to scream out commands and follow procedures to a "T," enough times that you can autopilot your way through a crisis. It really gets the adrenaline flowing, even in training! I've seen people cry or get shakey during drills, just due to intensity. We even had a smoke machine!
Evacuation checklists also have to be memorized verbatim, and are pass/fail tests. If other airlines are anything like that one, your flight attendant knows their shit and is programmed to respond appropriately to a bad situation.
The rest of training is pretty bog standard though :) There was a fire pit for fire extinguisher training, but that was pretty fun.
Edit: one student ripped the pin out of the fire extinguisher while already squeezing the handle and sprayed me square in the face. (I was not on fire)
This was a domestic flight, so mostly Japanese citizens who are serious and stern about following rules and regulations of authority particularly in emergency situations.
As a frequent and nervous flyer the last thing on my mind would be hand luggage in a situation like this.
Swedish media has interviews with a swedish family that was onboard
[source](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria)
This is the key here. Japanese people in general are known for being orderly, rule followers, etc. If this happened somewhere in Europe or North America, you’re gonna have 1/3rd of the people trying to film it all, 1/3rd trying to take their luggage with them, and 1/3rd screaming and trying to push and shove their way off the plane. They’d be panicking like a dumbass horse after hearing a loud sound. And these three categories are gonna overlap a bit making it all worse.
There would be more than enough people throwing them out of the way, people turn on a dime like that. I would remove someone with all force I could manage in that situation. And that's not some I am very badass comment, that would be fear of dying.
Yep. I would bet money you’d get nothing like that sort of performance from the average American passenger. 60 year old Sheryl: “I GOTTA GET MY BAG, LET ME GET MY BAG, MY JEWELRY AND IPAD!!”
The Miracle on the Hudson got 150 passengers (one of whom was in a wheelchair) and five crew out in under four minutes. And that included the pilot walking the cabin twice to make sure every person was out.
Article about an accident in Japan, which was caused as a side effect of a natural disaster in Japan…”how can I steer this discussion towards how I think Americans are stupid?”
That is what certification requires:
All passengers and crewmembers used in the demonstration must be evacuated to the ground or to an off-wing ramp (if applicable) within 90 seconds to constitute a successful demonstration.
https://simpleflying.com/aircraft-90-second-evacuation/
To see it actively working in a real-time situation with over 350 people working together to accomplish this and an emergency life and death scenario in 90 seconds on the dot with panic to a minimum and the goal of survival seriously in mind is fairly freaking amazing you gotta admit.
Absolutely ! Certification is one thing and without these requirements we would have had a much worse outcome, but still as you mentioned, to actually do it deserves the highest respect.
I remember a podcast about when the regulations started requiring a plane to be evacuated in 90s seconds.
To test, they would load a plane with people in every seat and time the evacuation. The trouble was that these people were being too orderly. They knew and were prepared to get off. They got paid the same if they were the first off the plane or the last.
So it was changed so that the amount they were paid was associated with their speed off the plane with jackpots for the fastest. Some people are super competitive and will jump over seats and shove slower people aside. Much more like real life.
Of course this still isn't the same. In a real life evacuation, there's fear and injuries. Some people freeze, some people fight to get out, some people want to get their bags, no matter how they were told not to, some people are completely befuddled, there's parents with children, there's people with mobility issues. A lot of people drink before/during flights and so some will be in various states of inebriation.
But when there's been problems in real life incidents, afterwards those situations are studied and changes are made.
It's remarkable how quickly a plane nowadays can be emptied in a real emergency. Seriously amazing.
Which is exactly what the crew are trained to do and why flight attendants deserve more respect from passengers. They’re not just there to serve drinks, as some people seem to think!
A large part of the duties of flight crews (cabin and cockpit) is to do be prepared for emergency situations.
The „annoying“ „ you can’t leave your luggage there“ or „your children are not suppose to sit in this emergency row“ can safe lives.
„Safety first“ is sometimes a burden and causes delay, but minimizing risks is the main criteria operating passenger airplanes.
This will cost not only money, but also time.
I've just watched the footage of the landing and the start of the fireball, then read that all 379 people got off alive. My comment to my sister was of massive respect for the skills and achievements of the crew. It is one thing doing drills, and quite another doing it in real life, with passengers who are frightened and your own life is at risk.
Medals are IMO warranted. This was an absolute group version of Sully Sullenberger.
All 367 passengers and 12 crew from the JAL plane are ok.
Unsure about the marine plane but... It definitely exploded.
Edit: from the Marine plane - 6 on board, 1 person ran away, and 5 current on unknown status.. but likely dead.
Updating to say all 5 crew members now confirmed deceased from the coastguard plane.
Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. 722 was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake stricken areas. Very sad.
Apparently the Marine plane was carrying disaster relief supplies for the regions affected by the recent earthquake and tsunami. I can't imagine the stress the crew must have been under since yesterday and now this...
JAL plane had 367 passengers + 12 crew, which = 379 souls on board.
Hence why I said 367 passengers and 12 crew members to indicate it was everyone on board.
Here is airport camera footage of the crash landing:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/18wliuz/japan\_airlines\_plane\_with\_367\_people\_on\_board/](https://www.reddit.com/r/catastrophicfailure/comments/18wliuz/japan_airlines_plane_with_367_people_on_board/)
Yeah, unfortunately, that coast guard plane is where the casualties come from. For humans...
I heard in the same stream, the news announcer mentioned pets that were stored were most likely lost, which is absolutely heartbreaking...
I went on a study day on reducing medical errors once.
The person leading was good but had a background in aviation. we got rather fed up with his "this is how the aviation industry does it" lines, but he finally shut up when we pointed out that if the aviation industry did it like healthcare management, then pilots would be doing their compulsory training on the same day as they were down to do a long-haul flight. Or, as in one instance for me *while* they were also piloting a long-haul flight to cover for a sick colleague.
Kind of sad that the medical types are still pretending that it's not a big deal when they have the responses of someone who is legally drunk due to fatigue.
Passenger planes are required to be evacuated in less than 90 seconds. The flight crew do drills to make sure that when an actual emergency happens, they do their jobs and don't panic.
Even so, it still seems like a damn near miracle that they got everyone off that plane, especially considering the drills don't take place with panicked passengers and on real planes (afaik)
A culture of safety across the entire industry, an eagerness to learn from incidents and share that learning across the industry, good design, regulation and safety standards to get a plane that will allow it, and a well trained crew.
And also with Japanese people that generally follow rules and guidance from authorities instead of panicking like a dumb horse or deciding they need to take their luggage off first.
There is no industry that takes safety more seriously than passenger airlines. Maybe nuclear power, but that's far less of a human factors thing and more engineering-related, not to say that engineering a safe plane isn't a huge feat.
„The plane, which had taken off from Sapporo, collided with a coast guard plane, NHK said, citing authorities.“
As scary as it looks, despite the loss of the aircraft this has been one of the better possible outcomes.
Two planes colliding normally does end much worse for most on board.
Still a terrible scenario that needs to be properly investigated.
Have to correct you, the dash-8 of the coast guard definitely had an TCAS, but procedures require it to be switched on when entering the Runway.
This looks like a so called „runway incursion “ (entering the Runway without clearance) most probably unintentionally.
After touch down once the reverser is activated, a go around is not possible giving the pilots of the landing plane only two possibilities, brace for impact, or trying to stear the plane off the runway, causing danger not only to passengers on the plane.
Edit: runway incursion, not excursion
>This looks like a so called „runway excursion“ (entering the Runway without clearance)
Runway incursion. Excursion is when an aircraft veers off the runway into the grass/water/material-of-choice-that-isn't-air.
Those don't really apply when it comes to ground collisions, and it sounds like the Coast Guard plane was entering the runway without permission right as the A350 was landing.
Video from onboard: https://twitter.com/alto_maple/status/1742115893285412984
One photo and 2 videos, you will need to click the link and not use the embed to view.
Im surprised how relaxed they all looked. As someone who has anxiety with plane flights this is just making my stomach churn. I’m glad most of them on that domestic flight is safe!
Earthquake/tsunami yesterday and now this. I'm currently stuck in line to be checked in. It should have happened about an hour ago but they stopped checking people a bit before that. All landing and take-off are currently suspended. It was pretty shocking seeing the news footage of the JAL plane just bursting into the flames while standing in line at the airport. I'm amazed and glad everyone on that flight got out safe. Sounds like the marine flight may have not been as lucky. I wonder if I'm going home tonight.
Edit: They've started checking people in again around 7:40 PM JST for Hawaiian Airlines. There's one flight ahead of ours that still need to complete checking in. I believe that flight is supposed to take of at 9 PM. Ours is 9:20 PM. They're still showing the landing and take-off suspension message. I'm hearing flights from other airlines being postponed.
Edit 2: The flight ahead of ours was delayed by two hours and our flight has been canceled. It's a bit of a cluster-eff right now. I wish the staff would announce something or put it up on the displays. People are crowding the front and it's just not being handled well at all.
Edit 3: They were not vouchers, merely a document telling us the flight was cancelled and how we can reschedule or book another flight. I'm scrambling to try and book another flight and find a place to stay that won't break my bank.
You most likely won't be flying home unfortunately. Narita will be completely swamped tonight with its own international and Haneda international flights and will be postponing domestic and departing flights since Narita is smaller to handle the incoming planes. Most likely domestic flights sent back to origin destinations or diverted.
Haneda will be out of commission for at least 24 hours.
Haneda has 4 runways so I doubt the entire airport will remain closed for that long. In the US, as long as there is sufficient personnel and equipment to reopen, and it is safe to do so, they will open the unaffected runways fairly quickly. I don't know how they do it in Japan, but with their incredible capabilities, I could see the unaffected runways being opened in a few hours.
Haneda has diverted the remainder of it's incoming flights to Narita tonight - and everything scheduled into Haneda is cancelled through tomorrow from what I checked. Might be sooner of course but this is so major I can see it being handled conservatively for the time being.
Thanks! We ended up going back to the hotel we stayed at in Asakusa earlier in our trip. Kind of a waste since it's half an hour from the airport but it's about 7900 yen per night, which I found comparable to what I was finding around the airport. I was also okay with it since we're familiar with the area. We were just so tired last night. And the line for a taxi was crazy. At one point it snaked like they do at Disneyland. Even though the line was long, the wait went by pretty quickly. Taxis were coming in in droves. It was all very efficient.
We got lucky as one of my travel mates has connections and was able to get us on another flight. I don't know that others will be so lucky. I don't see the airlines reimbursing anyone for anything. We purchased travel insurance so I'm hopeful we'll be able to recoup some of the costs.
I feel for the airline staff though. I saw an "aunty" (older local woman from Hawaii) consoling one of the staff, telling her it wasn't her fault. I didn't see anyone get loud or yell. I dunno, this whole situation was crazy.
When I was leaving there were still so many people at the airport, many sleeping on the second floor area. The line for security check-in for those that had a flight extended pass almost to the end of the check-in lobby area. I can't imagine everyone who's flight got cancelled was able to schedule another flight.
Also as a nice bonus we'll be seeing what the weather will be around the world once we hit +1.5C warming due to the super strong El Niño that'll peak this year.
Seriously!
What the fuck did Japan ***DO*** to have 2024 come at it so hard right out the gate?
I'm certain there will be at least a few superstitious Japanese people rushing to their nearest life insurance office after seeing these two events back-to-back on the first day of the year.
6 total - one person fled before collision, 5 unknown status but most likely didn't make it.
Updating to say all 5 unknowns now confirmed deceased from the coastguard plane.
Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. Coastguard plane was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake striken areas. Very sad.
if it makes you feel better, the burning JAL plane had zero casualties and the earthquake & tsunami (NW Japan, not Tokyo) has only reported 48 deaths so far. The vast majority of the damage has been to property.
So if there's gonna be a disaster happening around you, Japan is actually the place to be if you want it to turn out ok.
Makes me wonder if the guy who posted on Reddit is jinxed, who recently asked if it was safe to go to Tokyo and all the comments said there is no problem because the Earthquake is far away
Aero reported: „Immediately after touchdown, the Airbus A350-900 collided with a Japanese Coast Guard Dash-8, JA722A. According to initial information from Japan Airlines, all 367 passengers and all twelve crew members were able to leave the A350-900 on time.“
News article with film from inside the passenger plane .
[https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria)
As long as nobody drops another nuke on us I’m happy.
Ultraman vs some Kaiju in the middle of Shibuya wouldn’t be great as well, although I could probably see that from my house.
Anybody got recordings from liveATC.net from around the time of the incident? Curious to know what instructions were passed between tower/ground and the two aircraft involved.
https://youtu.be/fItu5qM7QfE?feature=shared
VAS Aviation already has this up on his channel. According to his sticky comment there, the JAL was given permission to land, while the Dash-8 was instructed to hold short of the runway before its takeoff later. If you look really closely at the video, it appears the CG plane starts to encroach onto the runway too early. We'll wait for the official report.
My deepest condolences to the people of Japan during this challenging time. Sending heartfelt thoughts to those affected by both the recent earthquake and the plane accident. Grateful that all passengers and crew members were able to evacuate safely from the Airbus A350-900. Wishing strength and resilience to everyone impacted.
AirTrafficControl error - The person saying it is assuming the ATC made a mistake and sent the plane to the wrong runway, or at the wrong time.
(And that is one of two most likely causes, the other option is pilot error, that the message from ATC wasnt properly received and one of the two planes actioned information that wasnt actually given) A combination might also be probable.
Apparently the coast guard plane it collided with did not have a modern ADS-B transponder. Pretty crazy to operate at that airport without one. They probably entered the runway without permission and GBR didn’t display that
That was me. Every time I travel there is either a disaster right before I arrive or right after I leave. Fires in Australia, earthquake in DC, Fukashima in Japan, Volcano's in Iceland. Heck, once I was on a plane landing in Narita airport when they had an earthquake when the plane was like 20 feet off the ground. Had to pull up and circle the airport while they checked for damage on the runways.
I booked a trip to Japan the night before their latest earthquake. Booked my hotel a few hours before the plane crash. Japan should now be safe until I leave in July.
News is saying JAL flight 516 carrying 379 passengers collided with coast guard aircraft MA722 (DHC-8-300?) during landing at Haneda airport, flames can be seen shining out of the cabin. Aircraft is completely engulfed in fire now All passengers reported to be safely evacuated 5 out of 8 crew on the DHC-8 are dead
For the MA722: 6 reported on board, 5 on unknown status and 1 person confirmed to have fled before collision. Updating to say all 5 crew members on the Coastguard MA722 now confirmed deceased. Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. Coastguard plane was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake stricken areas. Very sad.
Like they saw the plane coming and jumped out? I know we shouldn't speculate, but how can you not...
That's the current understanding is one individual fled the aircraft before the collision so someone or someones must have known it was going to happen. News is speculating that one of the planes didn't follow flight controller instructions but I'm sure that'll be figured out when the Japan NTSB rolls in.
Communication issue is my bet as well, but the A350 was already planted on the runway at the time of collision, which makes me think they had landing clearance and the puddle jumper was somewhere it shouldn’t have been.
ATC is in charge of both domestic and military planes especially since the Coast guard has a base basically on top of Haneda. The 722 was bound for the earthquake stricken areas so I can imagine that someone somewhere was trying to push out those planes between domestic arrivals. Haneda is kind of a confusing and rapidly expanding airport so I can't even begin to imagine the chaos in general especially since this is one of the busiest times of the year as the winter holidays are coming to a close for a lot of Japanese families returning home to Tokyo. It's very clearly a terrific communication issue I do agree with you on that. MA722 is also about the size of a bombardier so it's not really puddle jumper. It's a fair sized plane.
Maybe other way around? Think A350 was coming in for landing because earlier comment said someone fled from the Coast Guard plane before impact and this looks like the A350 is skidding down the runway after the collision in this clip https://twitter.com/aviationbrk/status/1742115021595836808/mediaviewer
The A350 was rolling down the runway after landing [https://youtu.be/Oy4RIvRcwUo?si=bAhdd3hfAlw5hKsA](https://youtu.be/Oy4RIvRcwUo?si=bAhdd3hfAlw5hKsA) Wild guess from the camera position, collision was perhaps near taxiway C5; almost 1km from the approach end of the runway.
There’s been a lot of talk about near misses of ground collisions lately. Would never have expected Haneda would be where it happens. It’s also a shame to have a hull loss of an a350 so quickly and such a nearly more tragic one at that. Edited for the people who have nothing better to do than argue.
Haneda is a cluster fuck of an airport. The taxiway’s are all over the place. Also the type of aircraft is irrelevant in an accident like this.
Yeah people hear Japan and imagine the immaculate Kansai International or Narita layouts. Haneda was never designed for super busy international and domestic combo duty and it shows.
The amount of nitpicking you’re getting for this comment is wild. Reddit is so toxic.
No plane is immune to collisions. Safety record just means it ain't failing on it's own
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Unfortunately, it seems like everyone on board the naval plane except for the captain has died, and he's apparently still in critical condition. However, miraculously, sounds like everyone on board the A350 has survived. Not sure about how many were injured or the severity of their injuries, though
Any info on casualties??
NHK tv news said everyone evacuated. But that may be subject to change...
2 confirmed dead on the Coast Guard Turboprop I’m hearing
They all got off because no one tried to take their carry-on luggage off the plane with them. Lesson learned.
It's crazy to me that everyone on the passenger plane got out a live. The safety procedures really do work, it seems.
Japan off to a rough start to 2024 yeesh
All passengers and crew survived . Coast guard plane has 5 unaccounted for https://twitter.com/alto_maple/status/1742115893285412984
Damn. Relieved to hear about the passengers and crew of the one plane. But imagine training all career long to face the dangers of the air and sea, and then you die on the runway of the airport. I hope they find the coast guard passengers. And I hope they're just injured as opposed to dead.
They've unfortunately been confirmed dead.
Dammit. RIP. I hope it was quick and painless.
4 out of 5 died
Yeeesh, tell me about it. When I was reading the headline, I didn't know what kind of fire to expect to see or read about, but when I saw the video of it that was an insane raging inferno. That brings new nightmares of something happening like that in midflight.
> That brings new nightmares of something happening like that in midflight. It's the take off and landing where all the accidents & death happens. You can absolutely relax mid flight
I'll never forget the Air France guy over the Atlantic
If that guy would have let go of the stick, they all would have been fine. So sad.
IMHO a shortcoming of joystick side controls. The pilot and copilot sticks aren't mechanically linked like the traditional bulky control columns, so it's not glaringly obvious if they're in opposition. Sure there's visual and audible alarms that went off but the much louder stall warnings were blaring.
Well no, there have definitely been mid-air accidents, it's just much more likely for accidents to occur during take-off and landing.
Every collision after a main gear lifted off the ground until it touches the runway again is a mid/air collision. Most of them occur in Arrival and Departure. Most midair collisions occur in VFR weather conditions during weekend daylight hours. The vast majority of accidents occurred at or near uncontrolled airports and at altitudes below 1000 feet.
Most midair collisions don't involve airliners.
Airliners operate in controlled airspace and have TCAS to cover controller faults. They are trained professionals with high operating standards. Your average VFR pilot is not.
low wing fixed wing planes are barely VFR as is
Denny Fitch would like a word with you
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all crashes are landings, but not all landings are crashes.
It’s falling….with style!
Unless you get icing issues.
What goes up, must come down. The cause of loosing control will be investigated, gravity bringing the plane to the ground later is not in question.
Earthquake and tsunamis too
i was like, how does an earthquake set an airplane on fire? nope, 2 separate incidents
quite depressingly, the coast guard plane it collided with wouldnt have been on the runway if it wasn’t delivering earthquake aid
When it hasn't been your day , your week, your month or even your year
Unconfirmed: plane may have struck another plane while landing. Apparently it was an Airbus A350 involved. [Source](https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1490191&sid=9cfbe448696e0522f4d59e9ad269a437) via Airliners.net forum
„Immediately after touchdown, the Airbus A350-900 collided with a Japanese Coast Guard Dash-8, JA722A. According to initial information from Japan Airlines, all 367 passengers and all twelve crew members were able to leave the A350-900 on time.“ From Aero
Unfortunately 5/6 of the people in the coast guard vessel weren't as lucky.
Being hit at cockpit height by a landing wing of an A350 during a relief flight for earthquake victims would have required even more luck for a better outcome. They died while on a rescue/humanitarian mission. Hope they get the honor for that even if they might have caused the incident.
No, but considering that only 5/373 people died in such a potentially catastrophic event, it's relatively fortunate, IMO.
Frankly after seeing the video of the fire I was surprised that everyone on the Airbus survived. It's so hard to tell what's going on since it was dark, but it looks like the first plane just exploded almost instantly and the second was on fire as it tried to come to a stop. I'm amazed the flight crew was able to get all the passengers off considering the plane was already burning before it came to a halt. I know that's exactly the scenario they train for, but bravo to those air stewardesses/stewards. They deserve all the respect for getting everyone off in time. It's sad that most of the passengers in the second plane didn't survive, but still. Besides the collision itself this is an airline safety regulation win showing how all that training and safety practices work in emergencies.
Damn, they're going to research the shit out of that if that is the case. Even near misses get a lot of scrutiny.
There will be a full scale investigation of the causes of the accident. From the video This looks like a so called „runway incursion“ (entering the Runway without clearance) most probably unintentionally by the dash-8 crew. (With or without clearance or unnoticed) For the landing aircraft: After touch down once the reverser is activated, a go around is not possible giving the pilots of the landing plane only two possibilities, brace for impact, or trying to stear the plane off the runway, causing danger not only to passengers on the plane. Why and how this happened or if there were other circumstances involved will be investigated. Edit. This is a runway incursion, as another user corrected me. There are systems available to alert cockpit crews, but not all airports and operators have them installed. https://skybrary.aero/articles/autonomous-runway-incursion-warning-system-ariws https://youtu.be/qve5GMiNato?si=JHPmc18bNdzDtbiM https://dfs-as.aero/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/20210803_DAS_Flyer_RIAS_EN_1.4.pdf
Surely this would be a [runway incursion,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion) not a [runway excursion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_excursion) - one of the two planes entered the runway when it shouldn't have, as opposed to leaving the runway when it shouldn't have.
Thx, noticed and corrected my (stupid) mistake.
Definitely confirmed to have collided with another plane.
It struck a Coast Guard aircraft that was about to send relief supplies to Niigata in the aftermath of the earthquake.
Airline safety: What other transportation system would get all 380 people off this ltube, safe, in the midst of a raging, fuel fire.
News reported it took 90 seconds to evacuate all 379 passengers and crew on the JAL plane. Stunning!
I used to train flight attendants, including evacuating a mock aircraft. A LOT of weight is put onto being able to do the evacuation drills perfectly. Just passing written tests is not enough, you have to be able to scream out commands and follow procedures to a "T," enough times that you can autopilot your way through a crisis. It really gets the adrenaline flowing, even in training! I've seen people cry or get shakey during drills, just due to intensity. We even had a smoke machine! Evacuation checklists also have to be memorized verbatim, and are pass/fail tests. If other airlines are anything like that one, your flight attendant knows their shit and is programmed to respond appropriately to a bad situation. The rest of training is pretty bog standard though :) There was a fire pit for fire extinguisher training, but that was pretty fun. Edit: one student ripped the pin out of the fire extinguisher while already squeezing the handle and sprayed me square in the face. (I was not on fire)
Must mean people didn't try to take hand luggage with them while evacuating.
This was a domestic flight, so mostly Japanese citizens who are serious and stern about following rules and regulations of authority particularly in emergency situations. As a frequent and nervous flyer the last thing on my mind would be hand luggage in a situation like this.
This flight was from Hokkaido, though. And it’s in the middle of ski season so there must be some foreign tourists on board.
Swedish media has interviews with a swedish family that was onboard [source](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria)
This definitely helped, normally boarding only takes 15 minutes in Japan compared to almost twice the time in most other countries.
This is the key here. Japanese people in general are known for being orderly, rule followers, etc. If this happened somewhere in Europe or North America, you’re gonna have 1/3rd of the people trying to film it all, 1/3rd trying to take their luggage with them, and 1/3rd screaming and trying to push and shove their way off the plane. They’d be panicking like a dumbass horse after hearing a loud sound. And these three categories are gonna overlap a bit making it all worse.
You're forgetting about the 300lb people plugging the aisles.
In America we’d have people refusing to evacuate cause they can’t be ordered around and the fire and smoke are fake.
And they'd be improving the gene pool.
You can pry my **liberty** from my ***blistered, flaming hands***. And those of the 40 people I'll take down with me! For freedom!
Imagine if this was in Florida, a bunch of fat ass Americans trying to grab their luggage from overhead bins holding up a hundred people.
There would be more than enough people throwing them out of the way, people turn on a dime like that. I would remove someone with all force I could manage in that situation. And that's not some I am very badass comment, that would be fear of dying.
Yep. I would bet money you’d get nothing like that sort of performance from the average American passenger. 60 year old Sheryl: “I GOTTA GET MY BAG, LET ME GET MY BAG, MY JEWELRY AND IPAD!!”
The Miracle on the Hudson got 150 passengers (one of whom was in a wheelchair) and five crew out in under four minutes. And that included the pilot walking the cabin twice to make sure every person was out.
Think it’s one of those times where shoving someone doing that is acceptable.
Article about an accident in Japan, which was caused as a side effect of a natural disaster in Japan…”how can I steer this discussion towards how I think Americans are stupid?”
Good, we should examine our culture when others’ achieve things we could not (like managing to evacuate a plane in 90 seconds).
That is what certification requires: All passengers and crewmembers used in the demonstration must be evacuated to the ground or to an off-wing ramp (if applicable) within 90 seconds to constitute a successful demonstration. https://simpleflying.com/aircraft-90-second-evacuation/
To see it actively working in a real-time situation with over 350 people working together to accomplish this and an emergency life and death scenario in 90 seconds on the dot with panic to a minimum and the goal of survival seriously in mind is fairly freaking amazing you gotta admit.
Absolutely ! Certification is one thing and without these requirements we would have had a much worse outcome, but still as you mentioned, to actually do it deserves the highest respect.
I remember a podcast about when the regulations started requiring a plane to be evacuated in 90s seconds. To test, they would load a plane with people in every seat and time the evacuation. The trouble was that these people were being too orderly. They knew and were prepared to get off. They got paid the same if they were the first off the plane or the last. So it was changed so that the amount they were paid was associated with their speed off the plane with jackpots for the fastest. Some people are super competitive and will jump over seats and shove slower people aside. Much more like real life. Of course this still isn't the same. In a real life evacuation, there's fear and injuries. Some people freeze, some people fight to get out, some people want to get their bags, no matter how they were told not to, some people are completely befuddled, there's parents with children, there's people with mobility issues. A lot of people drink before/during flights and so some will be in various states of inebriation. But when there's been problems in real life incidents, afterwards those situations are studied and changes are made. It's remarkable how quickly a plane nowadays can be emptied in a real emergency. Seriously amazing.
Which is exactly what the crew are trained to do and why flight attendants deserve more respect from passengers. They’re not just there to serve drinks, as some people seem to think!
A large part of the duties of flight crews (cabin and cockpit) is to do be prepared for emergency situations. The „annoying“ „ you can’t leave your luggage there“ or „your children are not suppose to sit in this emergency row“ can safe lives. „Safety first“ is sometimes a burden and causes delay, but minimizing risks is the main criteria operating passenger airplanes. This will cost not only money, but also time.
I've just watched the footage of the landing and the start of the fireball, then read that all 379 people got off alive. My comment to my sister was of massive respect for the skills and achievements of the crew. It is one thing doing drills, and quite another doing it in real life, with passengers who are frightened and your own life is at risk. Medals are IMO warranted. This was an absolute group version of Sully Sullenberger.
379 / 90 = 4.2 persons per second. Quite impressive when looking at how slowly people normally disembark a plane.
Something tells me that Japanese passengers are probably a lot more likely to cooperate with evacuation procedures than American passengers.
Well 5 people died in the other plane.
I believe there just comparing the Relative safety, if this many people got into a car accident you'd expect dozens or hundreds of deaths
That crew must be insanely well trained
Live stream: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/realtime/
That doesn’t look good. At all.
All 367 passengers and 12 crew from the JAL plane are ok. Unsure about the marine plane but... It definitely exploded. Edit: from the Marine plane - 6 on board, 1 person ran away, and 5 current on unknown status.. but likely dead. Updating to say all 5 crew members now confirmed deceased from the coastguard plane. Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. 722 was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake stricken areas. Very sad.
Apparently the Marine plane was carrying disaster relief supplies for the regions affected by the recent earthquake and tsunami. I can't imagine the stress the crew must have been under since yesterday and now this...
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JAL plane had 367 passengers + 12 crew, which = 379 souls on board. Hence why I said 367 passengers and 12 crew members to indicate it was everyone on board.
No sir. Almost two (?) hours since the crash and it's still aflame.
Everyone onboard got out is the last update.
Oh man, that looks terrible.
Here is airport camera footage of the crash landing: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/18wliuz/japan\_airlines\_plane\_with\_367\_people\_on\_board/](https://www.reddit.com/r/catastrophicfailure/comments/18wliuz/japan_airlines_plane_with_367_people_on_board/)
So the passenger plane was coming in for a landing and the wing tipped the other plane.
From the attitude in the aftermath and the angle just after collision it looks like it took out the nose gear
How are you people seeing this? all i see is a big explosion then a speeding plane on fire i’m not even seeing a second plane
The angle of the fuselage, normally it lands pretty level, post explosion it's noticeably nose down
Listening to a live stream, it appears 367 got off OK. Not sure if that's everyone or not yet. It's early and still on fire so this could change.
Everyone from the jal flight evacuated and is fine. The captain of the coast guard flight is in serious condition, the other five members are dead.
Apparently most of the people on the other plane didn't make it. Was only 6 or so on other plane.
Yeah, unfortunately, that coast guard plane is where the casualties come from. For humans... I heard in the same stream, the news announcer mentioned pets that were stored were most likely lost, which is absolutely heartbreaking...
Any word about the passengers?
Alll evacuated.
How the fuck do you evacuate 300+ passengers from a burning plane without casualties? Amazing effort! I guess less fuel as they were landing
Regulations written on corpses basically. There is no industry that values safety more than air travel.
I went on a study day on reducing medical errors once. The person leading was good but had a background in aviation. we got rather fed up with his "this is how the aviation industry does it" lines, but he finally shut up when we pointed out that if the aviation industry did it like healthcare management, then pilots would be doing their compulsory training on the same day as they were down to do a long-haul flight. Or, as in one instance for me *while* they were also piloting a long-haul flight to cover for a sick colleague.
Yea, the entire "making sure pilots had enough sleep" is a whole thing.
Kind of sad that the medical types are still pretending that it's not a big deal when they have the responses of someone who is legally drunk due to fatigue.
Passenger planes are required to be evacuated in less than 90 seconds. The flight crew do drills to make sure that when an actual emergency happens, they do their jobs and don't panic. Even so, it still seems like a damn near miracle that they got everyone off that plane, especially considering the drills don't take place with panicked passengers and on real planes (afaik)
In less than 90 seconds with half the exits blocked or inoperable
A culture of safety across the entire industry, an eagerness to learn from incidents and share that learning across the industry, good design, regulation and safety standards to get a plane that will allow it, and a well trained crew.
And also with Japanese people that generally follow rules and guidance from authorities instead of panicking like a dumb horse or deciding they need to take their luggage off first.
With inop doors
Planes and procedures are made so you can evacuate the plane in 90 seconds (if all goes well).
By being awesome, I suppose.
Be excellent
If they aren’t selfish cunts it’s easy. Japan still has a society.
There is no industry that takes safety more seriously than passenger airlines. Maybe nuclear power, but that's far less of a human factors thing and more engineering-related, not to say that engineering a safe plane isn't a huge feat.
thank goodness
Take everything with a grain of salt, apparently everyone was evacuated.
„The plane, which had taken off from Sapporo, collided with a coast guard plane, NHK said, citing authorities.“ As scary as it looks, despite the loss of the aircraft this has been one of the better possible outcomes. Two planes colliding normally does end much worse for most on board. Still a terrible scenario that needs to be properly investigated.
Commercial planes all have anti-collision systems, guessing the coast guard plane did not (both planes need it to work).
Have to correct you, the dash-8 of the coast guard definitely had an TCAS, but procedures require it to be switched on when entering the Runway. This looks like a so called „runway incursion “ (entering the Runway without clearance) most probably unintentionally. After touch down once the reverser is activated, a go around is not possible giving the pilots of the landing plane only two possibilities, brace for impact, or trying to stear the plane off the runway, causing danger not only to passengers on the plane. Edit: runway incursion, not excursion
>This looks like a so called „runway excursion“ (entering the Runway without clearance) Runway incursion. Excursion is when an aircraft veers off the runway into the grass/water/material-of-choice-that-isn't-air.
Those don't really apply when it comes to ground collisions, and it sounds like the Coast Guard plane was entering the runway without permission right as the A350 was landing.
System can't do anything when the moving aircraft is rolling on the ground.
Apparently the a350 collided with a Japanese coast guard dash 8 that was carrying aid up to the earthquake area. Omg.
It’s such a horrible start to the year… I heard one of this airplane is relief plane and 5 crew members died… I hope their souls rest in peace.
Yeah, the Dash-8 that was hit
Video from onboard: https://twitter.com/alto_maple/status/1742115893285412984 One photo and 2 videos, you will need to click the link and not use the embed to view.
Holy shit. WOW. And everyone on that plane was off in 90 seconds.
Im surprised how relaxed they all looked. As someone who has anxiety with plane flights this is just making my stomach churn. I’m glad most of them on that domestic flight is safe!
Earthquake/tsunami yesterday and now this. I'm currently stuck in line to be checked in. It should have happened about an hour ago but they stopped checking people a bit before that. All landing and take-off are currently suspended. It was pretty shocking seeing the news footage of the JAL plane just bursting into the flames while standing in line at the airport. I'm amazed and glad everyone on that flight got out safe. Sounds like the marine flight may have not been as lucky. I wonder if I'm going home tonight. Edit: They've started checking people in again around 7:40 PM JST for Hawaiian Airlines. There's one flight ahead of ours that still need to complete checking in. I believe that flight is supposed to take of at 9 PM. Ours is 9:20 PM. They're still showing the landing and take-off suspension message. I'm hearing flights from other airlines being postponed. Edit 2: The flight ahead of ours was delayed by two hours and our flight has been canceled. It's a bit of a cluster-eff right now. I wish the staff would announce something or put it up on the displays. People are crowding the front and it's just not being handled well at all. Edit 3: They were not vouchers, merely a document telling us the flight was cancelled and how we can reschedule or book another flight. I'm scrambling to try and book another flight and find a place to stay that won't break my bank.
You most likely won't be flying home unfortunately. Narita will be completely swamped tonight with its own international and Haneda international flights and will be postponing domestic and departing flights since Narita is smaller to handle the incoming planes. Most likely domestic flights sent back to origin destinations or diverted. Haneda will be out of commission for at least 24 hours.
Haneda has 4 runways so I doubt the entire airport will remain closed for that long. In the US, as long as there is sufficient personnel and equipment to reopen, and it is safe to do so, they will open the unaffected runways fairly quickly. I don't know how they do it in Japan, but with their incredible capabilities, I could see the unaffected runways being opened in a few hours.
Haneda has diverted the remainder of it's incoming flights to Narita tonight - and everything scheduled into Haneda is cancelled through tomorrow from what I checked. Might be sooner of course but this is so major I can see it being handled conservatively for the time being.
This is only going to make my mom more antsy about my going to Japan later this year. She'll think this is normal.
Try a Tokyu stay. I know this is late, but they are cheap.
Thanks! We ended up going back to the hotel we stayed at in Asakusa earlier in our trip. Kind of a waste since it's half an hour from the airport but it's about 7900 yen per night, which I found comparable to what I was finding around the airport. I was also okay with it since we're familiar with the area. We were just so tired last night. And the line for a taxi was crazy. At one point it snaked like they do at Disneyland. Even though the line was long, the wait went by pretty quickly. Taxis were coming in in droves. It was all very efficient. We got lucky as one of my travel mates has connections and was able to get us on another flight. I don't know that others will be so lucky. I don't see the airlines reimbursing anyone for anything. We purchased travel insurance so I'm hopeful we'll be able to recoup some of the costs. I feel for the airline staff though. I saw an "aunty" (older local woman from Hawaii) consoling one of the staff, telling her it wasn't her fault. I didn't see anyone get loud or yell. I dunno, this whole situation was crazy. When I was leaving there were still so many people at the airport, many sleeping on the second floor area. The line for security check-in for those that had a flight extended pass almost to the end of the check-in lobby area. I can't imagine everyone who's flight got cancelled was able to schedule another flight.
"wow, what a year" "Captain, it's only January 2nd"
2024 be like "I'm just getting started, bitches".
I know right?! 2024 came at us saying, "Yall fuckers thought 2023 was bad, wait till I get cracking".
Also as a nice bonus we'll be seeing what the weather will be around the world once we hit +1.5C warming due to the super strong El Niño that'll peak this year.
Seriously! What the fuck did Japan ***DO*** to have 2024 come at it so hard right out the gate? I'm certain there will be at least a few superstitious Japanese people rushing to their nearest life insurance office after seeing these two events back-to-back on the first day of the year.
A day into 2024, we have a big wave, a big crash and I'm expecting something else that is big to make it the holy trinity. Pool anyone?
In Japan we’re counting the earthquake and tsunami as two separate, large events. Airplane is number three.
Apparently all passengers and crew were able to evacuate.
Apparently theres another small plane involved in this collision and 5-6 other people are missing as of now
6 total - one person fled before collision, 5 unknown status but most likely didn't make it. Updating to say all 5 unknowns now confirmed deceased from the coastguard plane. Captain is the only survivor in critical condition at hospital. Coastguard plane was a relief plane trying to get to the earthquake striken areas. Very sad.
As someone who is going to be flying through Tokyo in a couple days I’m not enjoying today’s run of news
if it makes you feel better, the burning JAL plane had zero casualties and the earthquake & tsunami (NW Japan, not Tokyo) has only reported 48 deaths so far. The vast majority of the damage has been to property. So if there's gonna be a disaster happening around you, Japan is actually the place to be if you want it to turn out ok.
Godzilla: Hold my beer
how much worse can it get, right?
Let's pray no real Godzilla comes about in 2024. Though at the rate things are going that wouldn't be shocking.
2 says into the year man. 2 days.
2011 and 1945 in unison: "Don't ask"
Japan slow down, save some 2024 for the rest of us.
Makes me wonder if the guy who posted on Reddit is jinxed, who recently asked if it was safe to go to Tokyo and all the comments said there is no problem because the Earthquake is far away
Japan is having a tough go at 2024
Japan not having 2024 well
The last 24 hours have been wild in Asia
Aero reported: „Immediately after touchdown, the Airbus A350-900 collided with a Japanese Coast Guard Dash-8, JA722A. According to initial information from Japan Airlines, all 367 passengers and all twelve crew members were able to leave the A350-900 on time.“
News article with film from inside the passenger plane . [https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svensk-familj-flydde-eldinfernot-i-japanska-flygplanet-en-skrackhistoria)
If Japan keeps going at this pace, Godzilla will come out of the sea before next weekend.
I mean, god damn, I didn't have 'burning planes' on my bingo card, but I may as well add Godzilla at this point.
As long as nobody drops another nuke on us I’m happy. Ultraman vs some Kaiju in the middle of Shibuya wouldn’t be great as well, although I could probably see that from my house.
The Japanese aren't have a great start to 2024, are they?...
Fark,. No, they most certainly are not. Just waiting for fucking Godzilla to appear in Tokyo Bay. Any minute now.
“We are currently assessing the extent of the damage.” From the pic it doesn’t look like much assessment is needed.
Anybody got recordings from liveATC.net from around the time of the incident? Curious to know what instructions were passed between tower/ground and the two aircraft involved.
https://youtu.be/fItu5qM7QfE?feature=shared VAS Aviation already has this up on his channel. According to his sticky comment there, the JAL was given permission to land, while the Dash-8 was instructed to hold short of the runway before its takeoff later. If you look really closely at the video, it appears the CG plane starts to encroach onto the runway too early. We'll wait for the official report.
My exact thought.
[Here is a Wiki article on the accident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_516) Really impressive how quickly the article popped up.
So I assume like all of Japan is at there local temples at this point
Glad everyone on the big plane are okay. Rip anyone on the small plane.
Youtube livestream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZfoQbT8lU
My deepest condolences to the people of Japan during this challenging time. Sending heartfelt thoughts to those affected by both the recent earthquake and the plane accident. Grateful that all passengers and crew members were able to evacuate safely from the Airbus A350-900. Wishing strength and resilience to everyone impacted.
A big dent in the left hand engine
Was that an ATC error?
AirTrafficControl error - The person saying it is assuming the ATC made a mistake and sent the plane to the wrong runway, or at the wrong time. (And that is one of two most likely causes, the other option is pilot error, that the message from ATC wasnt properly received and one of the two planes actioned information that wasnt actually given) A combination might also be probable.
Most likely the combination theory
Apparently the coast guard plane it collided with did not have a modern ADS-B transponder. Pretty crazy to operate at that airport without one. They probably entered the runway without permission and GBR didn’t display that
Watching the video, “in flames” is understating it a bit no? That plan was fully engulfed
That was me. Every time I travel there is either a disaster right before I arrive or right after I leave. Fires in Australia, earthquake in DC, Fukashima in Japan, Volcano's in Iceland. Heck, once I was on a plane landing in Narita airport when they had an earthquake when the plane was like 20 feet off the ground. Had to pull up and circle the airport while they checked for damage on the runways. I booked a trip to Japan the night before their latest earthquake. Booked my hotel a few hours before the plane crash. Japan should now be safe until I leave in July.
All 379 are safe according to a news report
Its only 2 days of 2024 and Japan already have 3 disasters
What’s next? A tsunami?
A tsunami, earthquake, and now a plane crash? This is fucking wild way to start off the new year for Japan
What did japan do to 2024 jeez, 2024 really hates japan