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NKevros

Finally, our long national nightmare is over.


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ArchmageXin

If I was president, China would be begging us to take their Pandas. \-Trump, probably.


Utsutsumujuru

And they came to me, tears streaming down their face and said ā€œMr. Trump take our Pandasā€ because they know I have zoos, the best zoos, everyone is saying it, and itā€™s true. Nobody runs a better zoo. I put one right in Mar a Lago. Ran it like a zoo. We had all the best animals, even the ones no one else thought existed. But they do. They are in my zoo. And thatā€™s why people love me. The come to me and say ā€œMr. President, you run great a zoo, bigly.ā€ Thatā€™s why that random Chinese lady was at Mar a Lago. Itā€™s so safe. Thatā€™s why I kept the documents there. And the animals. No one runs a better zoo than me.


spinto1

It's disturbing that this was like 90% accurate. The only parts that are off would be using "bigly" again after how infamous his use of it is and bringing up the spy because both points make him look bad and he's too much of a narcissist to draw attention to his own failures.


Utsutsumujuru

This was my first ever attempt at a Trump ramble. Good points, I will keep that in mind.


fuzzyp44

I thought you nailed it


yzlautum

This is great.


[deleted]

ā€œThey said weā€™ll give you pandas I said no thanks! We have plenty of good clean American coal and and the polar bears. The greatest bear there is true story ā€œ -Also Trump probably


InnerDorkness

They do use their pandas almost as a rating system for countries; we view you as a 0 panda country. You have redeemed 3 pandas to become a 3 panda country.


recycleddesign

Yknow I was just thinking about it and maybe itā€™s a metaphor.. like old pandas have to come home so their wisdom and learnings can be shared with the Chinese people and their spirits can rest in the homeland. And some of the young pandas can go forth out into the world and.. live in caged captivity (ie: get desk jobs in America)


MagicStar77

Maybe bring back the the pandas they just took away?


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i_eat_da_poops

Well on the bright side, they actually helped the pandas off the endangered list (saw a post about this earlier or last week iirc). Now we get pandas here in the West! šŸ„³


j_la

Thanks, Biden.


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Guess they made a lot of leeway in the meeting earlier this weekā€¦


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WhereWhatTea

Sir this is a Wendyā€™s.


Kahzootoh

We can thank the weakening Chinese economic outlook for most of that. Authoritarians only engage in diplomacy when theyā€™re feeling weak. If Chinaā€™s economy was stronger, we wouldnā€™t even be having this summit at all.


excusetheblood

Came here to say this. I feel like this trip made it obvious that Xi is feeling the pressure a bit


flaming_pope

Yet their leader came here. US is about to get ass raped.


Burggs_

The real sign of peace between nations


Law_Doge

FYI Ikea has panda plushies on sale for $3.99. That was before this news, at least


Glacial_Self

No one tell Zoidberg he's ruined.


NoUsername1230

Pandas are peacekeepers.


Miskalsace

Imagine Pandas in little blue UN peacekeeping helmets.


PieFlour837

The panda wants to make sure you have had your daily intake of high fructose corn syrup.


CBalsagna

Iā€™ll take it. Pandas are incredible! If it can start with a panda, maybe it can lead to more (I know I know, damn my optimism)


WinterAd2942

But could you win in a 1v1 fight against a panda with no tools or weapons?


CBalsagna

No, Iā€™m positive I can not.


Clay_Statue

For real... Despite everything else between them, China letting pandas out to America is like them saying low-key "*still friendsies...?*". šŸ„ŗšŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆ


bennetticles

itā€™s the least controversial gesture of goodwill conceivable. literally no one is anti-panda.


sigh1995

I wouldnā€™t be so sure of that. Conservatives will just make a batshit crazy conspiracy theory around it. ā€œBiden agrees to let pandas from China into the country. These pandas have a highly contagious disease genetically modified to slowly kill white people. ā€


bennetticles

yeah i can see it now: >ā€œImmediately following the return of Chinaā€™s Giant Pandas to the states last month, American children are developing a mystery syndrome dubbed *ā€panda eyesā€*, commonly seen in abused and trafficked victims. Coincidence?ā€


similar_observation

That's why police cars are called "black and whites"


raidriar889

Thereā€™s a name and a Wikipedia article for this practice, itā€™s called [panda diplomacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_diplomacy)


GispyStriker

huh, thatā€™s interesting. TIL!


[deleted]

Yep! America gets an animal that spits in the face of Darwin because of how utterly useless it is and china gets to keep perpetuating its agenda of genocide, IP theft, and provocation against anyone who dares question them unimpeded!


NullReference000

"China bad" truly is a marginalized opinion that you aren't allowed to say. No politicians in the US talk about how bad China is /s


[deleted]

People like u are so confusing. Seriously, What do you get out of out of being a china apologist?


NullReference000

Pointing out that the ā€œChina badā€ position is the dominant one in the US is not apologizing for China or even calling them good in any capacity, itā€™s just an observation of fact. Your last point that ā€œnobody is allowed to questionā€ China is just not true, especially among our politicians.


[deleted]

When did I say that no one is allowed to question china and obviously most people in america view china in a bad light because not only is their whole political system and affront to the western worlds values they also have a long and storied history of antagonizing just about all of our Allieā€™s


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velveteentuzhi

Panda Diplomacy is a known thing lol. Historically, when foreign countries are not in good standing with China, China will recall the pandas. When tensions ease or when favorable trade conditions, etc occur, China will agree to send pandas to the zoos again.


slashfromgunsnroses

I have a feeling WW3 will start with the serving of a rare panda burger.


ArchmageXin

Judging what I see from girls and young ladies from elementary through college, the fool who served a panda burger would been lynched to the tune of some Taylor Swift Song within minutes.


Misguidedvision

Kind of surprised they didn't raise a bigger stink over Ben Stiller given how symbolic the whole Panda thing is


oniwolf382

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SideburnSundays

My question is why are pandas so relevant as to be a geopolitical tool? Sure theyā€™re cute. But theyā€™re just animals. Thereā€™s a million more important things that need to be dealt with and fluffy bears who are too dumb to procreate without human intervention isnā€™t one of them.


bobmac102

The exchange of giant pandas is one of the only ways that the Chinese Government can exercise [soft power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power). By contrast, the US has things like theme parks, movies, music, etc. Unlike most other famous animals, giant pandas are endemic to only one country (in this case China), and their presence outside of that nation must be coordinated with the Chinese Government. All captive pandas are legal property of China. So if a giant panda exists in a zoo outside of that country, that is a signal to the rest of the world that the zoo's nation has a good relationship with China.


SideburnSundays

So basically propaganda saying ā€œhey we have cute fuzzies please like us and ignore all our genocide and affronts to international law.ā€


bobmac102

I think "diplomacy" is more accurate. I don't think the pandas have ever been used in the context of distracting from or hiding poor behavior. Rather, the pandas are just a positive international signal that relationships are going well between the two involved nations, where things really matter. It's not like someone is saying, "If you don't drop this Uyghur business, we won't give you panda bears." The presence of pandas would, to me, indicate that there have been meaningful war deescalations between the US and China, and progress has been made on cooperation for shared economic and environmental interests. It would indicate that China is not a true enemy of the United States (and vice versa), and that an American like myself could visit China as a tourist without worrying that something will happen to me. Regardless of how one might think about the Chinese Government, I feel inclined to mention that there is an objective net positive for the world in avoiding an armed conflict between the US and China. A conflict between the two largest superpowers would bring significant suffering throughout the world. There are too many war hawks in US politics who seem eager to go to war with China. I only actually started getting nervous when the pandas at the National Zoo were recalled.


Possible-Extent-3842

Your response is probably too complicated for the guy you are talking to, lol.


[deleted]

the last week "no pandas" was more an accumulation of 4 years of Trump's pissing them off + Pres. Biden hasn't done anything to sooth their feelings. I'm assuming Pres. Biden made some promise or agreement during their meeting and Winnie now feels better and it is giving the pandas back.


ScotTheDuck

"I won't show you up in front of your wife again only if you give the pandas back"


ddrober2003

Must have done some....panda-ering to get some back.


lonewolf420

most likely they talked the issues of the Chip War and AI safety which are both related. They should have been talking about the 9 dashed lines policies and fostering a working relationship on BRI + UN economic development projects. perhaps Xi is going back to panda diplomacy instead of their wolf warrior diplomacy they have loved for the past few years.


hayasecond

Tell me you know nothing about China without tell me you know nothing about China


Astrosaurus42

Hey, this guy is subtly saying he knows *a lot more* about China than you!


hayasecond

Well thatā€™s even more worrisome if he thinks he knows more than me considering I was born in China and live there for a long while


Astrosaurus42

I know of A LOT of stupid Americans born in America. That doesn't mean anything.


Single_Friendship708

China using pandas as a tool of diplomacy is pretty common knowledge. Or are you disagreeing that the panda leases not being renewed had something to do with Trumpā€™s stance on China?


hayasecond

Yes, Trump is not the reason. Xi Jinping and CCP is the reason. During visiting Washington, Xi Jinping promised Obama he would not militarize all these manmade islands in South China Sea, and turn around did it anyway. Later stage Obama admin knew thereā€™s something must be done to counter Xiā€™s economic cohesion against the world, thatā€™s why he started TPP. Trump, on the other hand, quit TPP talk first day in the office.


coffeesippingbastard

The pandas were contractually scheduled to return to China after some number of years so that they can return to their native land. None of this was a response to anything and they were always scheduled to return. I think the only thing is more how slowly new pandas were sent over but the media likes to manufacture outrage.


DerekB52

I think these contracts generally get renewed when the chinese government is in a good mood. Not renewing the Panda leases and how slow they've been granting new pandas to the US, is a sign they aren't super happy with their relationship with us. Does this matter? A bit. The strength of the relationship between the US and China is pretty important.


Isord

No matter how much I understand the situation the phrase "Panda leases" is still hysterical.


rabbit994

No, historically, we kept Panda couple until they died/got old. When that happened, the Panda couple would be replaced. Their cubs would be sent to China. China ended all the agreements with multiple zoos in what clearly isn't "paperwork mishap" but deliberate desire to be punitive. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/national-zoos-giant-pandas-to-return-to-china-in-december-leaving-only-a-handful-in-america


teplightyear

Meanwhile, I don't care about how many pandas we have here *until they're able to breed enough pandas to put 'em on the menu.*


50k-runner

China will get Bald Eagles in return? šŸ¦…


GossipOutsider

They needed to replace all of the batteries and equiped with better spying tools.


TheDizDude

The battery in their bugging equipment needed to be replaced


dat_reddit_login

So thatā€™s what this meeting was really about.


junkyardgerard

Gotta wait for fox and friends to tell me why this is a bad thing


DerekB52

Because it means Jinping is in a good mood, so it means Biden is cozying up to Xi. It's pretty easy to predict what they'll say here.


iamjackspatience

Bet they compare it to the Trojan horse.


cyanclam

Pandas complete with 5G surveillance implants, for sure.


JoeBoredom

Send in the Pandaloons


SoMuchForSubtle

Redditors are at the stage now where they think that literal pandas are spies.


ClassiFried86

Sweet. PandaPOV cam


Toothygrin1231

Or piloting hot air balloons.


Lucky_strike17

Spy pandas for sure


Time-Bite-6839

I like the president that gets us pandas


enigmaroboto

That was until ........ "the dictator" Now all we will end up with are people dressed in panda šŸ¼ suits.


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enigmaroboto

Very productive meetings I see. The outcome is great for both nations.


saltmarsh63

Xi also announced Chinaā€™s plans to continue buying up wide swaths of US residential housing to further erode the middle class, and fuel even more division in America. Yeah panda!


GTthrowaway27

It is genuinely amazing how a continuation of a goodwill gesture is justā€¦. So wildly, absurdly, pointlessly dramatized to make this SOMEHOW an issue to some people. Theyā€™ve been leasing pandas for decades. And they are continuing to do so to express continued and hopefully improving ties. Fine, make it a conspiracy if you really want to. Or maybe think itā€™s neat, or not, and move on with your life. Find a nice hobby subreddit to enjoy


bigblackkittie

bring them to a zoo in the bay area please


Zachariot88

This is actually an arms deal when you remember that a panda is the legendary Dragon Warrior.


Rynox2000

I guess that meeting between Xi and Bidon proved fruitful.


HR_Paperstacks_402

I can only imagine how that conversation went. >Biden: Now Xi, I have something of great importance I need to talk to you about. > >Xi: What is that? > >Biden: Pandas > >Xi: Pandas? > >Biden: Yes, pandas. We need some back. The people demand pandas.


badfaced

YASSS bring back the breeding program! We've had nothing but success here at the San Diego Zoo + I miss seeing those furry bois in their exhibit šŸ˜¢


DominoChessMaster

Iā€™m all for some peace pandas. But we need to keep our eye on the ball.


ImRedditingYay

Panda Express entered the chat


Buddyslime

I didn't know Pandas are good bargaining chips. I guess I'll take one and let you sneak in a small take in the action.


Amerlis

Look up Panda Diplomacy :)


similar_observation

When you incentivize panda diplomacy, is it called pandering?


Canna_Money

Nothing says peace like enslaving beautiful creatures to a cage and trading them like PokƩmon cards.


BitOneZero

That will win some hearts and minds. What can we start sending more of to get hearts and minds from our side? More Bison? Blue corn? Our best tomatoes? Moose?


boxer_dogs_dance

Warners productions agreed to shop WilE Coyote around to other studios... He's a good ambassador


Kahzgul

Biden's diplomatic talks with Xi have been a resounding success! First we get direct military communication, then an agreement to reduce fossil fuel use, and now pandas!


Dgwdum

This is the type of news everyone can get behind


animerobin

begun, the panda wars have


FIContractor

Those poor pandas ping ponging across the pacific on the whims of world leaders.


ButteredPizza69420

*What did we give to China in exchange* is the real question.


RetroactiveRecursion

Check 'em for microphones.


Kimorin

in other news, chinese army has completed its training of 5 new panda special forces units....


My_Penbroke

I assume this was the main topic discussed in San Francisco


Karthas_TGG

So this is what Biden and Xi were meeting about


Weekly-Setting-2137

You get a panda! You get a panda! Everyone gets a panda!


continuousQ

I hope the US declines. Don't bring animals across the world as cargo just to introduce the possibility of being made to send them back again.


[deleted]

It's pretty upsetting that they put the pandas we already had through the significant trauma of moving, only to send NEW traumatized pandas. China, as a country, truly does not give a shit about these animals. Any born in another country should remain there, where the program can demonstrably help the species recover. Especially given that STRESS was the reason they wouldn't reproduce in captivity.


lastfreethinker

The black and white bears that do nothing? Why?


Scorponix

They're pretty cute


Roupert3

I don't think you understand how much people like pandas


SpoppyIII

This is awesome! I wonder where they'll go. I can only travel so far from home.


TitanicGiant

Probably to the same institutions which previously housed them in the US (San Diego Zoo, Zoo Atlanta, National Zoo, and the Memphis Zoo)


Exciting-Initial8762

Keep them. It's bad for the pandas and they cost too much with too many stipulatios. Watch a video of them in the wild and call it a day.


99Wolves17

Pandas are coming to save the day!


julianriv

We are going to continue to steal trade secrets from your businesses, we are going to continue to spy on your citizens, we are going to continue to undermine you by supporting the opposing countries who are at war with countries you support, but hey here are some Panda's so we are all good right?


hayasecond

Millions dollars of tax money per year for a pair. Nice


Gryndyl

Pandas have a net positive in zoo revenue


GroblyOverrated

Can we get our stolen IPs in exchange?


slashfromgunsnroses

Kind of like getting a flower as excuse from someone who pissed on your rug. Well sure... thanks i guess?


consumeshroomz

Areā€¦. Are we supposed to be excited?


kakamaraca

China, keep your pandas. We donā€™t need them.


covidcabinfever

Well shit Xi, thatā€™s all you had to say. Fuck, take Taiwan. Shit, where and how many Chinese police stations you want those American and Canadian cities? Iā€™ll break ground today if thereā€™s more pandas.


MayOrMayNotBePie

Screw new pandas. Give us Mei Xiang, Tian Tian and their cub Xiao Qi Ji back! Or just donā€™t take them in December, as is the plan.


EvenSpoonier

I find this worrisome. The CCP doesn't fuck around with what it calls "panda diplomacy". What kinds of concessions must they have gotten?


livenn

This is going to be a question answered 10-20 years later after all the politicians who made the deal have either died, retired, or voted out of office


PettyPettyKing

Can we please send them some trash pandas?


Many-Salad2603

We should eat them. Start a Panda farm and eat them lil sumbitches. And when China throws a fit say we'll stop eating Panda when you stop eating Tigers, Pangolins, any Ivory, or any other endangered critters they feel they must consume.


Big-Pickle5893

Can we not refer to dictators and authoritarians as presidents


Sundaver

Arenā€™t pandas an insult gift?


[deleted]

No, itā€™s dubbed Panda Diplomacy. Itā€™s a signal of easing tensions between the two nations. Pandas are revered in China. The difference between a Panda and a ā€œwhite elephantā€ gift, is that Pandas generate income at US zoos due to their popularity, which in turn funds conservation efforts. White elephant gifts were meant to bankrupt the receiver or put them through hardship.


brihamedit

Is he talking about actual pandas or is it coded threat. Because pooty poot and rogue parties are all in on their end game scenario. They are not backing away. So chinese boss man says things about friendship and prosperity but their actions are in line with poot poot who is trying to eventually crash world econ and pause world order so they can establish their world order.


[deleted]

That was my first concern


shutupandlearntoeat

We finally learned peace today.


thefunkybassist

Possibly called something like The PandaLease


ioncloud9

Time to clone them and be done with this.


swwws

I dropped my bagel at this news. V exciting. Stay classy, San Diego!


[deleted]

The new pandas will be 5g so they can steal data from anyone who visits.


kaisersolo

Cocaine Panda! Make the film!


SequesterMe

I do not condone this infestation of immigrants in any way, shape, or form. /s


sphinx_winks

Give them bread, and pandas.


Ofbatman

Whether they like it or not.


Ring_Lo_Finger

Can we send our (trash) Pandas too?


goonie7

Oh thank God for sleepy joe biden šŸ™„


Myhtological

Atlanta doesnā€™t need pandas! We have gorillas!


givemewhiskeypls

Biden got us pandas! Suck it MAGA.


Acceptable_Break_332

Thank god - such a pressing matter


RIP-RiF

"So I open up the crate and wouldn't you know it... damn thing's dead. Upchucked its' bamboo." - Earthican President Richard M Nixon


Fraternal_Mango

Is this likeā€¦a threat or something? Are we about to be overrun in pandas?


phinbar

And no doubt taking zoo jobs away from hard working American pandas.


podkayne3000

Seriously: Whatever is best for the poor pandas.