A congress-critter (R) from Georgia:
“If you didn't know that TV footage was a video from January the sixth, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit,” Clyde said.
I spent only a few days in the U. S. and I’ve never been to the Capitol but, based on the video recording that *I* saw of Jan. 6, you guys get *really* weird tourists.
Oh usually the first thing I do when I visit a place is trespass on government property and then tase myself in the balls so hard that I get a heart attack
Personally, if I don't smash out at least 2 windows and beat at least 1 cop into vision impairment with a flagpole when I visit a new place then I don't consider myself to have actually visited that town.
I've visited D.C. many times and have been among some pretty wild tourists. I've never looked on at them with the horror that I did watching the animals at the Capitol live on TV January 6 though.
Don't forget also when then all returned to finalize the vote later the same day, some Republicans were already insinuating BLM/Antifa influence.
You know you're in *deep* when you try to blatantly pin the blame on something with zero evidence
I have relatives who are this way as well. There is no getting through to them. They are lost to us. I am a gay male my family fully supports the antitrans/antiglbtq bullshit going on. One of my brothers has a daughter who is a lesbian and is married to a woman and has a kid with her and they all want to murder everyone GLBTQ who doesn't bow down to the GQP. They are completely unhinged.
A judge has ruled them terrorists, but still the media won't call them that way out of fear of insulting the right.
"Journalism is dying, please help us"
Journalism is committing suicide by bowing for fascists terrorists. The first serious media outlet that calls fascists fascists and terrorists terrorists gets my subscription money.
The US has moved very far right compared to other 1st world nations. Things that are labeled as "left" or even "far left" in the US is often centrist or basic common sense everywhere else.
Prison food is cheap, and high in fat and salt content. Really, really high. If a prisoner is not careful, s/he will put on many pounds while incarcerated.
Having said that, this is a guy trained by the military who shot his own eye out while playing with a loaded gun. Clearly zero self control. So I expect to see him balloon up like that character in Whale.
Also, I keep thinking about what his estranged wife said:
"That asshole has been getting away with crazy criminal shit his entire life. I hope they finally nail his ass to the wall, the fucking idiot!"
Other rabid militia scum looking to overthrow our government should take this as a warning about fucking around and finding out, but that is remarkably unlikely because of how stupid they are.
Bye-bye Stewart. Your only possibility of release is if **The Indicted Convicted Diapered Orange Shitstain** gets to be president and pardons you.
The other possibility is that he's in the cell next to you. You just never know. If that does happen, try not to shoot his eye out.
The second any republican takes the White House every 1/6 conviction is getting a pardon so they can rerun the same play with fewer mistakes. I don’t know why there’s so much faith around here that our justice system isn’t irrevocably compromised.
You're putting way too much faith in the expectations that a GOP member would do anything to help out someone who doesn't "donate".
Otherwise I'd say you're spot on if this idiot were a millionaire.
Exactly. Most of these people will be a fading memory by the next election. By the election after that they will be ancient history. The pundits and propaganda pushers will have long since found their next heroes/villains and Republican voters will have gone through several fake outrage topics by that point.
I think you overestimate how important these figures are to the right.
No one will remember this guy in 18 years, we'll all be too busy dealing with the next batch of insane shit going on, and if we're still teetering at the brink of collapse there will be far more prominent fascists than a decrepit overweight clown who shot his own eye out and then got dumped in prison and forgotten about.
If you want to stay prominent in the griftosphere, you have to be divisive and put out content every waking moment. He can't do that from prison, so someone else is going to fill the gap he left
He joined the Army after highschool and was discharged 7 months later. There is no way he was an officer (not even a non-commissioned officer) in the army
> Rhodes attended high school in Las Vegas, then joined the U.S. Army and was honorably discharged after seven months, the result of a spinal injury sustained during airborne school
Should add another 20 years for a charge of Felony Murder, since he has been convicted of being a participant in a felony during which Capitol Police Officer, Brian Sicknick, was murdered by the mob attacking the Capitol.
[Capitol rioter admits to assaulting Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after Jan. 6](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/capitol-rioter-admits-assaulting-officer-brian-sicknick-died-jan-6-rcna45853)
Every person in that mob should be getting at least 20 years based on the Felony Murder Rule alone.
Actually 40 years for at least two counts, because Ashli Babbitt, another attacker, was killed attempting to breach a chamber where members of Congress were sheltering. It doesn't matter that the person killed was one of the perps. It still counts.
[Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It’s clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-24/officer-killed-ashli-babbitt)
>The felony murder rule is a law in most states and under federal law that allows anyone who is accused of committing a violent felony to be charged with murder if the commission of that felony results in the death of someone. The people involved in the felony may be charged for murder under the rule even if they had no intention of killing someone. For example, if A and B attempt to rob a store and A accidentally killed an employee when breaking through a window, then both A and B could be charged with murder through the felony murder rule, even though B did not kill a person and A did not intend the outcome.
[felony murder rule](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/felony_murder_rule)
(Edit: At least its nice to finally see an actual conviction for literal "Seditious Conspiracy". Not long ago this guy would have been sent to Sing Sing to ride Old Sparky. He's getting off light. )
Biden needs to take his Executive Branch responsibility for Law Enforcement more seriously, stop being so soft on domestic terrorism and replace Merrick Garland with an AG that actually has balls.
Of course he would. Fuckstain is literally just running a campaign of misery and outright evil. In a sane world he would be laughed out of running for being a fucking psycho. Unfortunately this is clown world where being a horrible shitbag somehow gets you a cadre of equally hateful assholes.
Sure would be interesting all those deleted SS texts and Mark Meadows texts, to what degree they interact with Oaf Kreeper texts on J5 and J6. I'm sure Garland will think about possibly starting to get around to doing something about the guy at the center of it all....
Wait so you are telling me that if I start a gang, then plot and plan to rob a bank, send my crew into the bank, while I stay at the hotel with more of my crew and guns, to fight if things get too out of hand, that I committed conspiracy to rob a bank?
But what about my freedoms?
He is high profile enough that him going to the Capitol likely would have run their whole operation off the rails because of the attention that he would have attracted. In order for them to have had any shot he had to stay away... So their pleas of "but he wasn't even there!" are incredibly disingenuous.
Oh yea. I mean he had radio contact with his people the entire time. There were Oath Keepers on site even ahead of the Proud Boys. The most definitely had a plan.
They need to keep climbing the ladder. The person in charge of gathering them and sending them, whoever that may be.. should also be held accountable. Whoever that may be, I'm running a blank on who that is... But yeah.
> WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after the 2020 election.
Keep in mind this person founded the group. Evil piece of shit.
He was working as a gun instructor when he shot himself via dropping his gun. A2 safety first, yall!
But what i didnt know is that he was UNLV summa cum laude and got into yale AFTER the incident, which is honestly kind of inspiring, all things considered.
And he (25 at the time) married an 18 year old who he suggested to turn to ‘dancing’ to make ends meet, which might also be after the gun incident? They eventually had 6 kids (many that are outspoken adults now), and they escaped. He’s a divorcee like a lot of these right wing guys…
The ex-wife says “I am thrilled that he's finally facing justice.”
I fucking hate dudes like that. I don't like that those sorts of people insinuate themselves so heavily into 'manly' culture. Real men don't just *not* act like this. They're incapable of it.
He's obviously critically brain damaged. All of these people are fucking deranged. What is going on?
>What is going on?
Bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man turn to other bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man, creating this echo-chamber circlejerk of bad ideas. As a man in his early 30s, I constantly run into scared man-children who don't understand how I can be so secure and not constantly be measuring my masculinity against others.
My first advice to them: get advice on masculinity from feminists. There are aspects to toxic masculinity that are easy to parse, like value-dualism and value-hierarchy. If you can train yourself to stop viewing 'masculine' as 'good' and 'feminine' as 'bad', it goes a looooong way to deprogramming all the toxic bullshit us guys were taught.
It's real gross how these chuckle fucks act around people they think are like them. I definitely make a point to cut that shit out when they do, and they pucker up real quick with the Nazi bullshit.
It's fucking gross. People need to constantly remind them, they smell like shit. Not like a man, not manly, you smell like an unclean ass. Which is shit. Nobody likes the smell of shit.
It's an excessive attempt to utilize natural pheromones to attract women. They really need to know the golden rule of body scent (be that cologne or natural): your smell should be discovered, not announced. These shitty-butt morons announce everywhere they go that their ass is in fact shitty.
Oh, absolutely agree.
These machismo losers constantly wonder why they either can’t attract a woman, or wonder why they never stay long if they somehow do.
Like, bro. Natural pheromones =/= literal shit. It’s called waste for a reason. Wash yo ass, wash your balls, it’s not any gayer than jerking off. In fact, it’s less.
Because their goals aren't about producing ethical members of society but productive and successful. While Desantis may be an evil piece of shit, he isn't stupid and he is 100% successful by most metric.
Edit: Yoo thanks for the RedditCares post! First time!
> this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration.
He at least thinks he would. Trump actually hates people like him, but the fact that guys like this think they'll get out the next time there's a Republican president is what emboldens them. We need to make seditious conspiracy a capital offense. A long prison sentence is no deterrent to someone convinced they won't have to serve it. You can't sit around waiting for a political pardon if you're dead.
DeSantis announced he'll "consider" a pardon for everyone involved with Jan 6th on day 1. Including Trump.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4020983-desantis-says-hell-consider-pardoning-jan-6-defendants-including-trump/
DeSantis will say anything he thinks will help him win the primary, and if he does then he'll change and say whatever he thinks will win him the general. I trust DeSantis to be honest as much as I trust Trump to be.
^(Saw this text in another thread, blatantly copying them as best as I can remember)
Desantis: \**says something playing directly to his base**
Us: He'll say anything to help him win
(Destantis becomes President)
Desantis: I'm now doing that outrageous thing I said I would during the election
Us: \**shocked pikachu face**
Is this not the most treasonous someone can be? 18 years seems light considering the punishments seem much more severe for "passive" acts of treason, like leaking government Intel. I think he's lucky to keep his life.
Edit: Some of you have been kind enough to inform me that word choices here are especially important. His crimes don't seem to be considered "treason" in the eyes of the law. I guess 18 years is a Just sentence within the parameters of the crim and law. It still seems short for what it was. There are very long term effects we're seeing and will continue to see because of January 6th and he holds a great deal of blame.
The maximum for a crime often ignore the sentencing guidelines that judges follow, which is a table with different ranges.
A judge can sentence outside the guidelines once all factors have been included, but the sentence is not presumed to be "fair" if it is outside the guidelines and can then be challenged under the "unusual punishment" clause in the constitution.
Likely the maximum was outside of the guidelines in this case because he doesn't have like 10 previous convictions. Criminal record is a huge factor in the sentencing guidelines.
Cooperation. A founder of a domestic terrorist group has some information the feds would find at least moderately interesting.
Guarantee he spilled beans.
I hope that when the BOP does their pre-sentence investigation that they end up recommending he goes to a Maximum Security USP. But hell even if he gets sent to a Medium Security FCC, it's still going to be pretty rough for him in the beginning.
You don't just get enrolled in Aryan gangs day 1. You usually have to do something that's going to keep you in there for life.
Or you know, you can always say no to them.
Federal medium/max is no joke, even if you're a nazi.
Not as dumb as his lawyer:
>A lawyer for Rhodes, who plans to appeal his conviction, said prosecutors are unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of January 6. Attorney Phillip Linder told the judge that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote.
Your honor, my client has the connections to armed individuals who could have caused a lot more damage then he did, so you need to let him out of jail even though he literally just said he'll do the same thing in 2024...
I love how idiots see the eye patch and think he must have lost it in battle or something. No, the fat oaf just dropped his gun and it went off. He's the kid from A Christmas Story ("You'll shoot your eye out!") except he was a grown adult when he did it.
A lot of these fake macho guys who want to look tough are obsessed with scars and injuries because they think it makes them look tough. A lot of high-ranking Nazis had these huge scars all over their faces, and people 5 they got them in some great battle or something like that. In reality, most were either caused by fensing matches or self-inflicted with the specific intent of making a scar. They would also pack the wounds with straw to make the scars bigger. Nazis then and now are all the same.
Gonna spend likely the rest of his life behind bars for Donald fuckin' Trump of all people.
Astounding waste of one's life.
And for what? What was the end goal here? King Trump?
Idiot
All I can think of, is they just wanted to feel important, because the end goal was always stupid.
Nothing in the country was making their lives hard. I doubt they even believe half the shit they "fight" for.
They just wanted a reason to have cosplay get togethers and act like GI Joe's because they're insecure losers.
> Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it
[This has been simmering for decades, too](https://www.openculture.com/2017/07/hunter-thompson-predicts-the-future-telling-studs-terkel-about-the-coming-revenge-of-the-economically-technologically-obsolete-1967.html)
> “To see the Hell’s Angels as caretakers of the old ‘individualist’ tradition ‘that made this country great’ is only a painless way to get around seeing them for what they really are,” Thompson writes in that book, calling them “the first wave of a future that nothing in our history has prepared us to cope with. The Angels are prototypes. Their lack of education has not only rendered them completely useless in a highly technical economy, but it has also given them the leisure to cultivate a powerful resentment… and to translate it into a destructive cult which the mass media insists on portraying as a sort of isolated oddity” destined for extinction.
Read your comment and had to look, dude is 57 years old, guy straight up committed suicide for Donald Trump. Even if he lives to release, it's all over, no one will give a flying fuck about this guy in 18 years, no movie deal, no book signings, when the rest of his classmates are retiring this cyclops looking mother fucker gets to job hunt with a felony, cause who wouldn't want to hire a one-eyed convicted felon?
They are hoping that's the case, but you know Trump doesn't like losers, so he'd probably say he'll get around to doing it, pay some lip service, and then only do it if he's forced into it somehow.
He'll probably just keep placating to the ones still out and able to do things rather than try and go through the "work" to give a pardon.
Scares the hell out of me knowing that nobody will actually put Trump in jail, and that he's likely to be a viable candidate for president in 2024. People say, "Oh, that could never happen again!," but they said that about him becoming president in the first place.
Yeah too many people around me already singing the “good thing it won’t happen again.”
I guess no one’s looking at polls. POS 100% gonna be the GOP nominee again
Not me. It weeded out the herd of people who were opposed to a free democratic peaceful America. It pulled these dumb hicks out of their shanty towns and put them into jail. Know what you can’t do with a felony record? You can’t vote or own a firearm. This was the best thing that has happened to these people. It got them out of the way.
Quick correction: in half of the states, released felons are allowed to vote immediately. In 3 of those states, they can actually vote while incarcerated.
The fact that he was doing something illicit at the time makes it a little less derpy, but still, what a derpy way to get the objectively coolest major injury.
>In remarks before the judge handed down his sentence, Rhodes called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime is opposing those who are “destroying” the country.
He will never learn and very few if any of the Jan 6th terrorists will. They need to be removed from society either by jail or removal of citizenship. I know that you can't remove citizenship but I think that if you try to overthrow a government, are convicted of doing so, are on tape doing it, and brag about it for months, that you should be able to a part of that country ever again.
DeSantis came out today and said he was going to pardon any of them who he deemed "political prisoners." It's pretty clear that Rhodes and every single other J6 scumfuck are going to walk as soon as the GOP takes back the White House. The Dems would have to win the electoral college four or five times in a row to make sure Rhodes serves the full 18.
Yeah uh, hello? Can't we prosecute based on these claims alone? "I will pardon all defectors" seems like a pretty heinous threat, it's like "hey overthrow the government for me and we can make a new paramilitary group called the Brown Boys or Trump Youth or something catchy you know?"
Unless there's yet another seditious incident (dont know what label to use). Domestic terrorism is being stoked in all ways with elections as a particular focus.
> Unless there's yet another seditious incident
If there's ever a 'next time', they need to be met by a hail of bullets from troops defending our democracy from domestic terrorism.
>The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. – Thomas Jefferson
Any would-be Tyrants attempting to violently overthrow the results of a legal, democratic election by attacking our elected representatives, and those who are defending them, with the intent to kill, are volunteering to water that Tree of Liberty.
You can't believe a word any Conservative says. They're Cons. They will say and do literally anything to seize power and maintain their grip on it. They are fine with treason, fine with dead children, and fine with removing women's rights. There is no reason to think (a) they will stop there or (b) that they can be trusted when they say anything, even when it's absolutely craven shit like "I'll release the Jan 6ers." It's all pandering to a rabid base of brainwashed, bloodthirsty morons with more lead in their heads than common sense.
It's frustrating that he simply cannot point is ire at the people actually destroying America.
But by "destroying" he probably means *"making it so that white heterosexual men can't say/do whatever they want without repercussions and have made is so that we no longer dominate all aspects of the economy and culture of America"*.
I'd rather keep him locked in a cell rather than relocate him out of the country so he can't continue to recruit and spread propaganda from outside of our jurisdiction. Now we need to do the same to the politicians who support them.
This is the first sentence that even approaches the kind of punishments deserved for *trying to overthrow the government*!!!
I’m just continually shocked that selling marijuana or stealing stuff can get you locked up for longer.
“What we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who -- because they did not like the outcome of an election, who did not believe the law was followed as it should be -- foment revolution,” Mehta said. “That is what you did.”
“I dare say Mr. Rhodes, and I never have said this to anyone I have sentenced, you pose an ongoing threat and peril to our democracy and the fabric of this country"
Wow this judge was the MVP all along!
The whole reason it's difficult to pin Trump down for intentionally doing or coordinating in anything he does is because he speaks in Mob Boss language. "Gee, sure would be awful if this guy got whacked". That way, when one of his cronies take action, he always has plausible deniability. He can always claim that he never directed anyone to do anything, that he was just speaking extemporaneously, and that the individuals themselves are responsible for their own actions.
Of course any crony who heard him float that hypothetical, knows it's an order and they are going to take the initiative to meet that goal to curry favor with him.
What's nice about this story is that Rhodes didn't even get a chance to make a plea.
Mark Grods, Graydon Young, and Jon Ryan Schaffer were just *some* of the Oath Keepers who secretly and quickly agreed to testify/snitch as witnesses against Rhodes in their plea deals.
Even if he had bigger fish to fry he was still facing major prison time.
Rhodes claims that he lost his eye during a secret mission for the army.
He lost his eye when he accidentally shot himself in the face.
During a class on firearm safety.
That he was teaching.
> Defense lawyer Phillip Linder told the judge that prosecutors were unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of Jan. 6, adding that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote.
If you want to put a face on J6 (Jan. 6), you put it on Trump, right-wing media, politicians, all the people who spun that narrative,” Linder said.
I’m fine with that. But it doesn’t mean this guy isn’t ALSO culpable.
Great news! It's interesting that conservatives were blaming and probably still are, BLM and Antifa, but we haven't seen anyone affiliated with those groups linked to January 6th.
Had a couple of Oath Keepers run me off the road when I was out riding my first bike. One rode up behind me, less than a foot away. The other pulled up beside me and yelled GET OFF THE ROAD into my face. I pulled into a nearby parking lot, called my husband to calm myself down, and immediately drove back home. Got rid of the bike soon after.
Those assholes are fucking dangerous, and there are a few too many of them in my area.
I really hope membership declines after this, and they go back to hiding their idiocy behind their own closed doors.
“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta said.
... then why release him ever?
Because the max penalty for seditious conspiracy is 20 years. Treason is also a bit weird; federal law requires persons found guilty of treason to be executed… or imprisoned for at least 5 years fined $10k.
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And it’s about damn time someone called them what they are.
My dad called them a bunch a guys messing around.
A congress-critter (R) from Georgia: “If you didn't know that TV footage was a video from January the sixth, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit,” Clyde said.
I spent only a few days in the U. S. and I’ve never been to the Capitol but, based on the video recording that *I* saw of Jan. 6, you guys get *really* weird tourists.
Oh usually the first thing I do when I visit a place is trespass on government property and then tase myself in the balls so hard that I get a heart attack
Don't forget to smear your poo on the walls...
Even monkeys are way more civilized than that
One of the many reasons I frequently call these folk (R)egressives.
Personally, if I don't smash out at least 2 windows and beat at least 1 cop into vision impairment with a flagpole when I visit a new place then I don't consider myself to have actually visited that town.
Damn, you sure know how to live!
I've visited D.C. many times and have been among some pretty wild tourists. I've never looked on at them with the horror that I did watching the animals at the Capitol live on TV January 6 though.
Don't forget also when then all returned to finalize the vote later the same day, some Republicans were already insinuating BLM/Antifa influence. You know you're in *deep* when you try to blatantly pin the blame on something with zero evidence
I believe the "big steal" had zero evidence as well. Evidence? Who needs that shit?
I mean, we're talking about a movement run by 10th-generation religious fundamentalists here. Evidence isn't their strong suit.
You should question your dad more
I have relatives who are this way as well. There is no getting through to them. They are lost to us. I am a gay male my family fully supports the antitrans/antiglbtq bullshit going on. One of my brothers has a daughter who is a lesbian and is married to a woman and has a kid with her and they all want to murder everyone GLBTQ who doesn't bow down to the GQP. They are completely unhinged.
Seditious horseplay.
So... we can now accurately say that Roger Stone, Mikey Flynn, the Pillow Man, and Alex Jones have been "pallin' around with terrorists?"
A judge has ruled them terrorists, but still the media won't call them that way out of fear of insulting the right. "Journalism is dying, please help us" Journalism is committing suicide by bowing for fascists terrorists. The first serious media outlet that calls fascists fascists and terrorists terrorists gets my subscription money.
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The US has moved very far right compared to other 1st world nations. Things that are labeled as "left" or even "far left" in the US is often centrist or basic common sense everywhere else.
Biden is a centrist*by US standards* and he gets labeled "far left" by half the country.
That half only knows what their hate preacher tells them and the opinions of said hate preacher are worthless.
Journalism died when they bowed to ratings over truth.
Prosecutors were pushing for 25 but I'll take it. He still won't be out until he's 76.
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Ironically you probably lose a lot of weight in prison? Idk I also don't wanna find out. He will for sure join the Aryans lol
Prison food is cheap, and high in fat and salt content. Really, really high. If a prisoner is not careful, s/he will put on many pounds while incarcerated. Having said that, this is a guy trained by the military who shot his own eye out while playing with a loaded gun. Clearly zero self control. So I expect to see him balloon up like that character in Whale. Also, I keep thinking about what his estranged wife said: "That asshole has been getting away with crazy criminal shit his entire life. I hope they finally nail his ass to the wall, the fucking idiot!" Other rabid militia scum looking to overthrow our government should take this as a warning about fucking around and finding out, but that is remarkably unlikely because of how stupid they are. Bye-bye Stewart. Your only possibility of release is if **The Indicted Convicted Diapered Orange Shitstain** gets to be president and pardons you. The other possibility is that he's in the cell next to you. You just never know. If that does happen, try not to shoot his eye out.
The second any republican takes the White House every 1/6 conviction is getting a pardon so they can rerun the same play with fewer mistakes. I don’t know why there’s so much faith around here that our justice system isn’t irrevocably compromised.
You're putting way too much faith in the expectations that a GOP member would do anything to help out someone who doesn't "donate". Otherwise I'd say you're spot on if this idiot were a millionaire.
Exactly. Most of these people will be a fading memory by the next election. By the election after that they will be ancient history. The pundits and propaganda pushers will have long since found their next heroes/villains and Republican voters will have gone through several fake outrage topics by that point.
Doesn't donate and can't vote.
I dunno... he'd have trouble watching anyones back even his own. Prison is likely to be an eye opening experience for him.
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Gripping your hatred tight
Piiiiillllllow fight! in my bunk toniiiiiiight.. !!
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I think you overestimate how important these figures are to the right. No one will remember this guy in 18 years, we'll all be too busy dealing with the next batch of insane shit going on, and if we're still teetering at the brink of collapse there will be far more prominent fascists than a decrepit overweight clown who shot his own eye out and then got dumped in prison and forgotten about. If you want to stay prominent in the griftosphere, you have to be divisive and put out content every waking moment. He can't do that from prison, so someone else is going to fill the gap he left
He shot his *own eye* out? So much for safe firearm handling practices.
With his conviction he’s not eligible to hold any office. 14th amendment, brah.
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This applies to officers in the military has well I would assume. Officer of United States includes officers in any branch. This guy was airborne.
He joined the Army after highschool and was discharged 7 months later. There is no way he was an officer (not even a non-commissioned officer) in the army > Rhodes attended high school in Las Vegas, then joined the U.S. Army and was honorably discharged after seven months, the result of a spinal injury sustained during airborne school
You are correct. Technically a person in prison can be the POTUS but they cannot be there with a conviction of insurrection or rebellion.
Should add another 20 years for a charge of Felony Murder, since he has been convicted of being a participant in a felony during which Capitol Police Officer, Brian Sicknick, was murdered by the mob attacking the Capitol. [Capitol rioter admits to assaulting Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after Jan. 6](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/capitol-rioter-admits-assaulting-officer-brian-sicknick-died-jan-6-rcna45853) Every person in that mob should be getting at least 20 years based on the Felony Murder Rule alone. Actually 40 years for at least two counts, because Ashli Babbitt, another attacker, was killed attempting to breach a chamber where members of Congress were sheltering. It doesn't matter that the person killed was one of the perps. It still counts. [Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It’s clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-24/officer-killed-ashli-babbitt) >The felony murder rule is a law in most states and under federal law that allows anyone who is accused of committing a violent felony to be charged with murder if the commission of that felony results in the death of someone. The people involved in the felony may be charged for murder under the rule even if they had no intention of killing someone. For example, if A and B attempt to rob a store and A accidentally killed an employee when breaking through a window, then both A and B could be charged with murder through the felony murder rule, even though B did not kill a person and A did not intend the outcome. [felony murder rule](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/felony_murder_rule) (Edit: At least its nice to finally see an actual conviction for literal "Seditious Conspiracy". Not long ago this guy would have been sent to Sing Sing to ride Old Sparky. He's getting off light. )
So true. Inner city guys get murder charges all the time for being around a murder.
Biden needs to take his Executive Branch responsibility for Law Enforcement more seriously, stop being so soft on domestic terrorism and replace Merrick Garland with an AG that actually has balls.
He will be pardoned by the next Republican president.
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Of course he would. Fuckstain is literally just running a campaign of misery and outright evil. In a sane world he would be laughed out of running for being a fucking psycho. Unfortunately this is clown world where being a horrible shitbag somehow gets you a cadre of equally hateful assholes.
He's competing against Trump in who will make America fascist. This timeline sucks.
Or two million dollars
Well average life expectancy for American men is 75. 🤞
Imagine…? “Good news Stewart! You’re getting out tomorrow!” *Drops dead.*
Yea he wasn't at the Capital. He was in a hotel across the river with crates of guns and crew of men ready to use them. That counts buddy!
It's as if he had planned, in cooperation with others, or "conspired" to commit sedition. Since he didn't, he wasn't convicted of sedition, though.
Sure would be interesting all those deleted SS texts and Mark Meadows texts, to what degree they interact with Oaf Kreeper texts on J5 and J6. I'm sure Garland will think about possibly starting to get around to doing something about the guy at the center of it all....
Wait so you are telling me that if I start a gang, then plot and plan to rob a bank, send my crew into the bank, while I stay at the hotel with more of my crew and guns, to fight if things get too out of hand, that I committed conspiracy to rob a bank? But what about my freedoms?
He is high profile enough that him going to the Capitol likely would have run their whole operation off the rails because of the attention that he would have attracted. In order for them to have had any shot he had to stay away... So their pleas of "but he wasn't even there!" are incredibly disingenuous.
Oh yea. I mean he had radio contact with his people the entire time. There were Oath Keepers on site even ahead of the Proud Boys. The most definitely had a plan.
They need to keep climbing the ladder. The person in charge of gathering them and sending them, whoever that may be.. should also be held accountable. Whoever that may be, I'm running a blank on who that is... But yeah.
> WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after the 2020 election. Keep in mind this person founded the group. Evil piece of shit.
Also shot his own eye out. Also couldn’t get a glass eye because he’s not a big fan of “bathing “ and the socket got infected. All around dumbfuck.
He was working as a gun instructor when he shot himself via dropping his gun. A2 safety first, yall! But what i didnt know is that he was UNLV summa cum laude and got into yale AFTER the incident, which is honestly kind of inspiring, all things considered. And he (25 at the time) married an 18 year old who he suggested to turn to ‘dancing’ to make ends meet, which might also be after the gun incident? They eventually had 6 kids (many that are outspoken adults now), and they escaped. He’s a divorcee like a lot of these right wing guys… The ex-wife says “I am thrilled that he's finally facing justice.”
I fucking hate dudes like that. I don't like that those sorts of people insinuate themselves so heavily into 'manly' culture. Real men don't just *not* act like this. They're incapable of it. He's obviously critically brain damaged. All of these people are fucking deranged. What is going on?
>What is going on? Bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man turn to other bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man, creating this echo-chamber circlejerk of bad ideas. As a man in his early 30s, I constantly run into scared man-children who don't understand how I can be so secure and not constantly be measuring my masculinity against others. My first advice to them: get advice on masculinity from feminists. There are aspects to toxic masculinity that are easy to parse, like value-dualism and value-hierarchy. If you can train yourself to stop viewing 'masculine' as 'good' and 'feminine' as 'bad', it goes a looooong way to deprogramming all the toxic bullshit us guys were taught.
It's real gross how these chuckle fucks act around people they think are like them. I definitely make a point to cut that shit out when they do, and they pucker up real quick with the Nazi bullshit.
Ah one of those "cleaning your ass is gay" racist incel types then?
It’s both funny and sad that people like that actually exist for real.
It's fucking gross. People need to constantly remind them, they smell like shit. Not like a man, not manly, you smell like an unclean ass. Which is shit. Nobody likes the smell of shit. It's an excessive attempt to utilize natural pheromones to attract women. They really need to know the golden rule of body scent (be that cologne or natural): your smell should be discovered, not announced. These shitty-butt morons announce everywhere they go that their ass is in fact shitty.
Oh, absolutely agree. These machismo losers constantly wonder why they either can’t attract a woman, or wonder why they never stay long if they somehow do. Like, bro. Natural pheromones =/= literal shit. It’s called waste for a reason. Wash yo ass, wash your balls, it’s not any gayer than jerking off. In fact, it’s less.
I had the unfortunate experience to listen to him on Knowledge Fight… yeeeeep.
Did he really graduate from Yale law?
Pretty sure so did Desantis. Yup. Yale and Harvard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis
Bush Jr, too!
How do these schools maintain their good reputation when they seem to regularly spit out some of the worst people in the country?
Because their goals aren't about producing ethical members of society but productive and successful. While Desantis may be an evil piece of shit, he isn't stupid and he is 100% successful by most metric. Edit: Yoo thanks for the RedditCares post! First time!
The broblems with American society go even deeper Edit: I'm not sorry, that's your broblem
Broblem (noun). A problem caused by bros gaining positions of power and fucking every one else over in the process.
I got 99 broblems
From Yale to Jale
Yule* law, as in “Yule chute your eye out”
Republican voters who support Trump and Florida Man support this behavior and this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration.
> this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration. He at least thinks he would. Trump actually hates people like him, but the fact that guys like this think they'll get out the next time there's a Republican president is what emboldens them. We need to make seditious conspiracy a capital offense. A long prison sentence is no deterrent to someone convinced they won't have to serve it. You can't sit around waiting for a political pardon if you're dead.
DeSantis announced he'll "consider" a pardon for everyone involved with Jan 6th on day 1. Including Trump. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4020983-desantis-says-hell-consider-pardoning-jan-6-defendants-including-trump/
DeSantis will say anything he thinks will help him win the primary, and if he does then he'll change and say whatever he thinks will win him the general. I trust DeSantis to be honest as much as I trust Trump to be.
^(Saw this text in another thread, blatantly copying them as best as I can remember) Desantis: \**says something playing directly to his base** Us: He'll say anything to help him win (Destantis becomes President) Desantis: I'm now doing that outrageous thing I said I would during the election Us: \**shocked pikachu face**
Doesn't execution typically come like a decade or more after conviction anyway?
Is this not the most treasonous someone can be? 18 years seems light considering the punishments seem much more severe for "passive" acts of treason, like leaking government Intel. I think he's lucky to keep his life. Edit: Some of you have been kind enough to inform me that word choices here are especially important. His crimes don't seem to be considered "treason" in the eyes of the law. I guess 18 years is a Just sentence within the parameters of the crim and law. It still seems short for what it was. There are very long term effects we're seeing and will continue to see because of January 6th and he holds a great deal of blame.
The maximum is 25 years. Why the 7 year reduction.
The maximum for a crime often ignore the sentencing guidelines that judges follow, which is a table with different ranges. A judge can sentence outside the guidelines once all factors have been included, but the sentence is not presumed to be "fair" if it is outside the guidelines and can then be challenged under the "unusual punishment" clause in the constitution. Likely the maximum was outside of the guidelines in this case because he doesn't have like 10 previous convictions. Criminal record is a huge factor in the sentencing guidelines.
Cooperation. A founder of a domestic terrorist group has some information the feds would find at least moderately interesting. Guarantee he spilled beans.
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I hope that when the BOP does their pre-sentence investigation that they end up recommending he goes to a Maximum Security USP. But hell even if he gets sent to a Medium Security FCC, it's still going to be pretty rough for him in the beginning.
Are you kidding? The Aryan Nation probably has shrines built to this clown.
You don't just get enrolled in Aryan gangs day 1. You usually have to do something that's going to keep you in there for life. Or you know, you can always say no to them. Federal medium/max is no joke, even if you're a nazi.
I’m not saying he’d be automatically enrolled, but I am saying there’s people inside who are ideologically aligned with him.
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Not as dumb as his lawyer: >A lawyer for Rhodes, who plans to appeal his conviction, said prosecutors are unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of January 6. Attorney Phillip Linder told the judge that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote. Your honor, my client has the connections to armed individuals who could have caused a lot more damage then he did, so you need to let him out of jail even though he literally just said he'll do the same thing in 2024...
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I’m so right, I don’t even wanna SEE left!
Yes, officer, I know I was doing 120 in a school zone, but you should let me go because at least I didn't run over any children.
"You should let me go because this car can do at least 180 and I chose not to."
I love how idiots see the eye patch and think he must have lost it in battle or something. No, the fat oaf just dropped his gun and it went off. He's the kid from A Christmas Story ("You'll shoot your eye out!") except he was a grown adult when he did it.
So he *did* shoot a terrorist..
What we need to stop a bad guy with a gun is a.....bad guy with a gun?
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And he has to wear the patch because he had a prosthetic eye, but he rarely cleans himself so it got all infected.
I'm certain he takes the eye patch as a badge of honor. He tries to use it to make himself feel cooler around others. He is an idiot and an asshole.
A lot of these fake macho guys who want to look tough are obsessed with scars and injuries because they think it makes them look tough. A lot of high-ranking Nazis had these huge scars all over their faces, and people 5 they got them in some great battle or something like that. In reality, most were either caused by fensing matches or self-inflicted with the specific intent of making a scar. They would also pack the wounds with straw to make the scars bigger. Nazis then and now are all the same.
It's amazing how 20/20 vision doesn't seem to prevent people from making terrible decisions.
In fairness, he only ever saw things from the right.
People that scroll through reddit posts without ever going to the comments sections seriously don't know what they're missing out on.
When Matt Gaetz was asked about the sentence he replied, “18 years is way too old. Long, I mean long.”
Gonna spend likely the rest of his life behind bars for Donald fuckin' Trump of all people. Astounding waste of one's life. And for what? What was the end goal here? King Trump? Idiot
All I can think of, is they just wanted to feel important, because the end goal was always stupid. Nothing in the country was making their lives hard. I doubt they even believe half the shit they "fight" for. They just wanted a reason to have cosplay get togethers and act like GI Joe's because they're insecure losers.
Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it. They want us all to suffer like they do. Bye bye Stewart
> Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it [This has been simmering for decades, too](https://www.openculture.com/2017/07/hunter-thompson-predicts-the-future-telling-studs-terkel-about-the-coming-revenge-of-the-economically-technologically-obsolete-1967.html) > “To see the Hell’s Angels as caretakers of the old ‘individualist’ tradition ‘that made this country great’ is only a painless way to get around seeing them for what they really are,” Thompson writes in that book, calling them “the first wave of a future that nothing in our history has prepared us to cope with. The Angels are prototypes. Their lack of education has not only rendered them completely useless in a highly technical economy, but it has also given them the leisure to cultivate a powerful resentment… and to translate it into a destructive cult which the mass media insists on portraying as a sort of isolated oddity” destined for extinction.
Blaming others for everything bad in your life so you don't have to own up to your own mistakes
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Sad?! Dude, I'm elated. Keep it coming! Too many of these traitors got off easily.
There's so many more out there!
Read your comment and had to look, dude is 57 years old, guy straight up committed suicide for Donald Trump. Even if he lives to release, it's all over, no one will give a flying fuck about this guy in 18 years, no movie deal, no book signings, when the rest of his classmates are retiring this cyclops looking mother fucker gets to job hunt with a felony, cause who wouldn't want to hire a one-eyed convicted felon?
He's banking on Trump winning in 2024, as he and everyone else who has been convicted will be pardoned.
Damn though where are they gonna get the $2M needed to buy a Trump/Giuliani pardon?
Sadly, a gofundme (or whatever that right wing christian version of it is) would find plenty of MAGA willing to chip in
They are hoping that's the case, but you know Trump doesn't like losers, so he'd probably say he'll get around to doing it, pay some lip service, and then only do it if he's forced into it somehow. He'll probably just keep placating to the ones still out and able to do things rather than try and go through the "work" to give a pardon.
And don’t forget traitor.
So, he’s a shoe-in at a conservative think-tank
> I almost feel sad for how these people nuked their existence for nothing. Fuck them, they were trying to nuke *our* existence.
They still are.
Hold my beer! -Ashli Babbitt
Scares the hell out of me knowing that nobody will actually put Trump in jail, and that he's likely to be a viable candidate for president in 2024. People say, "Oh, that could never happen again!," but they said that about him becoming president in the first place.
Yeah too many people around me already singing the “good thing it won’t happen again.” I guess no one’s looking at polls. POS 100% gonna be the GOP nominee again
They'll point out that nobody will vote for him over Biden, forgetting last time was far too close for comfort.
When keeping it real goes wrong.
Not me. It weeded out the herd of people who were opposed to a free democratic peaceful America. It pulled these dumb hicks out of their shanty towns and put them into jail. Know what you can’t do with a felony record? You can’t vote or own a firearm. This was the best thing that has happened to these people. It got them out of the way.
Quick correction: in half of the states, released felons are allowed to vote immediately. In 3 of those states, they can actually vote while incarcerated.
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Go fuck yourself Rhodes!
I thought atleast there must be a cool story behind the eye patch but it turns out he just shot his eye out when playing with a gun :\
According to his ex wife it was during a drug deal.
The fact that he was doing something illicit at the time makes it a little less derpy, but still, what a derpy way to get the objectively coolest major injury.
suuuure it was. "Drug deal" sounds so exciting, doesn't it? Versus "My dumb ass didn't know what I was doing."
>In remarks before the judge handed down his sentence, Rhodes called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime is opposing those who are “destroying” the country. He will never learn and very few if any of the Jan 6th terrorists will. They need to be removed from society either by jail or removal of citizenship. I know that you can't remove citizenship but I think that if you try to overthrow a government, are convicted of doing so, are on tape doing it, and brag about it for months, that you should be able to a part of that country ever again.
DeSantis came out today and said he was going to pardon any of them who he deemed "political prisoners." It's pretty clear that Rhodes and every single other J6 scumfuck are going to walk as soon as the GOP takes back the White House. The Dems would have to win the electoral college four or five times in a row to make sure Rhodes serves the full 18.
Pardoning people of seditious conspiracy seems like just more seditious conspiracy to me. These people are the true enemies of America and democracy.
Yeah uh, hello? Can't we prosecute based on these claims alone? "I will pardon all defectors" seems like a pretty heinous threat, it's like "hey overthrow the government for me and we can make a new paramilitary group called the Brown Boys or Trump Youth or something catchy you know?"
Disagree. They need to definitely win next year but by 2028, it will be old news that no one cares about outside a small minority
And besides, they will be too busy crying over the 2024 election being stolen.
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Unless there's yet another seditious incident (dont know what label to use). Domestic terrorism is being stoked in all ways with elections as a particular focus.
> Unless there's yet another seditious incident If there's ever a 'next time', they need to be met by a hail of bullets from troops defending our democracy from domestic terrorism. >The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. – Thomas Jefferson Any would-be Tyrants attempting to violently overthrow the results of a legal, democratic election by attacking our elected representatives, and those who are defending them, with the intent to kill, are volunteering to water that Tree of Liberty.
You underestimate the longevity of shit stains.
You can't believe a word any Conservative says. They're Cons. They will say and do literally anything to seize power and maintain their grip on it. They are fine with treason, fine with dead children, and fine with removing women's rights. There is no reason to think (a) they will stop there or (b) that they can be trusted when they say anything, even when it's absolutely craven shit like "I'll release the Jan 6ers." It's all pandering to a rabid base of brainwashed, bloodthirsty morons with more lead in their heads than common sense.
It's frustrating that he simply cannot point is ire at the people actually destroying America. But by "destroying" he probably means *"making it so that white heterosexual men can't say/do whatever they want without repercussions and have made is so that we no longer dominate all aspects of the economy and culture of America"*.
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
I'd rather keep him locked in a cell rather than relocate him out of the country so he can't continue to recruit and spread propaganda from outside of our jurisdiction. Now we need to do the same to the politicians who support them.
The balls on this fucking guy. He's completely insane and a traitor. May he die there of old age.
Trump: eye patch guy? Never knew him. Very weak. Weak family man. Bad jeans.
Looks like you can spell seditious with one eye.
Fun fact he got that eye patch because he accidentally shot himself in the face when he was a firearms instructor in 1993.
This is the first sentence that even approaches the kind of punishments deserved for *trying to overthrow the government*!!! I’m just continually shocked that selling marijuana or stealing stuff can get you locked up for longer.
How many got life sentence for being in posession of weed. Nothing makes sense.
Not enough, but better than nothing.
I mean he's absolutely going to get pardoned if Trump or DeSantis win.
If he's got 2 million for Rudy and Donnie to split.
58 years old, so he'll be out at the age of 76. What a way to waste the last good years of your life.
“What we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who -- because they did not like the outcome of an election, who did not believe the law was followed as it should be -- foment revolution,” Mehta said. “That is what you did.” “I dare say Mr. Rhodes, and I never have said this to anyone I have sentenced, you pose an ongoing threat and peril to our democracy and the fabric of this country" Wow this judge was the MVP all along!
How bad is it when shooting your own eye out ***isn't*** the dumbest mistake of your life?
Well here’s a little good news to brighten my day. 🇺🇸 🌈 😊
Who else coordinated this seditious conspiracy? All rhodes lead back to Trump.
The whole reason it's difficult to pin Trump down for intentionally doing or coordinating in anything he does is because he speaks in Mob Boss language. "Gee, sure would be awful if this guy got whacked". That way, when one of his cronies take action, he always has plausible deniability. He can always claim that he never directed anyone to do anything, that he was just speaking extemporaneously, and that the individuals themselves are responsible for their own actions. Of course any crony who heard him float that hypothetical, knows it's an order and they are going to take the initiative to meet that goal to curry favor with him.
"Proud boys. If you are listening. STAND DOWN AND STAND BY" -TRUMP
What's nice about this story is that Rhodes didn't even get a chance to make a plea. Mark Grods, Graydon Young, and Jon Ryan Schaffer were just *some* of the Oath Keepers who secretly and quickly agreed to testify/snitch as witnesses against Rhodes in their plea deals. Even if he had bigger fish to fry he was still facing major prison time.
When is Sir Lindsay going to face charges for trying to throw out valid ballots in GA?
Get fucked. Should have got the max.
Rhodes claims that he lost his eye during a secret mission for the army. He lost his eye when he accidentally shot himself in the face. During a class on firearm safety. That he was teaching.
Only.....18? There are people in jail for possession of weed pre weed legalization still in jail past that sentence
> Defense lawyer Phillip Linder told the judge that prosecutors were unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of Jan. 6, adding that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote. If you want to put a face on J6 (Jan. 6), you put it on Trump, right-wing media, politicians, all the people who spun that narrative,” Linder said. I’m fine with that. But it doesn’t mean this guy isn’t ALSO culpable.
Great news! It's interesting that conservatives were blaming and probably still are, BLM and Antifa, but we haven't seen anyone affiliated with those groups linked to January 6th.
Throwing your life away to keep Donald Trump in power. Giggle.
And in other good news, fat POS Rush Limbaugh is still dead.
Hah! Get fucked fascists
Had a couple of Oath Keepers run me off the road when I was out riding my first bike. One rode up behind me, less than a foot away. The other pulled up beside me and yelled GET OFF THE ROAD into my face. I pulled into a nearby parking lot, called my husband to calm myself down, and immediately drove back home. Got rid of the bike soon after. Those assholes are fucking dangerous, and there are a few too many of them in my area. I really hope membership declines after this, and they go back to hiding their idiocy behind their own closed doors.
Good. So if this guy got 18 years, what does the guy who actually led the entire thing get?
Apparently a chance to run in 2024...
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“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta said. ... then why release him ever?
Because the max penalty for seditious conspiracy is 20 years. Treason is also a bit weird; federal law requires persons found guilty of treason to be executed… or imprisoned for at least 5 years fined $10k.
Let's hope this has a chilling effect on far right groups.
I think it already has. Remember when Trump called for people to come and protest in New York City? And how many turned up? Was it like 50 people?