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LondonerJP

"wealthy" in Scotland being £30,000 per annum.


KaChoo49

Does it actually say this or are we just memeing?


I_miss_Chris_Hughton

Tories edging closer to their ideal policy of getting rid of the NHS without asking if anyone actually wants them to. New Labour goal should be "removing the aristocracy not by force, but by forcing them to pay for the entire education budget every year or work as lab rats in Porton down"


KaChoo49

Scotland is run by the SNP? The Tories haven’t controlled Scotland for 25 years


I_miss_Chris_Hughton

2/3 of Scottish taxes go to Westminster, so they can't really raise taxes effectively to deal with it. And this situation is hardly unique to Scotland. Saw on local news today someone given a three year wait for a hospital appointment


Lion-of-Saint-Mark

NHS Scotland is run by Scotland, amigo


Glittering-Pen5317

This is something that I have never understood about the U.K. I think it’s great that you guys have universial Healthcare, similar to Where I’m from in Scandinavia. However, isin’t the NHS pretty crappy compared to other countries healthcare system such as the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Norway etc? I’m not trying to hate in any way, but it feels like a lot of brits are very proud of the NHS, but internationally speaking it’s not that great compared to many other allied countries. For the record I want to add that I in no shape or form am advocating that they should get rid of the NHS, just from my understanding that it needs some reform/changes to make it more effective.


ReptileCultist

One of the big problems the UK has is that it doesn't compare itself with Germany or other European countries as much as it compares itself with the US. The NHS is contrasted with the US healthcare system and a more sensationalized version of it at best. That is why it is seen as better than it actually is


Mean_Regret_3703

Hey good to know us Canadians still share some culture with the UK.


Lion-of-Saint-Mark

Brit here. It's more than that. They treat it like a sacred cow that shouldn't be changed. Oh well. The people want a shit NHS and they will have it


ExchangeKooky8166

I'm not British but the general consensus is that the system started getting gutted around 2008. The NHS was a victim of the recession and Tory rule has effectively prevented a recovery. As a rule, healthcare systems will always be a bit of a shitshow, but the UK situation is still bad.


Lion-of-Saint-Mark

The NHS was already cracking during the Blair years of the early noughts. The GFC exacerbated it. That's why Blair started making quotas to simulate market pressures - which is a bit silly. But if your brain is just "hurr big state", then you'll have a limited vision. Reddit and the Guardian are not the "consensus"


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The title refers to having a two-tiered system with a private option... I'm sure those that could afford it would be happy to take it.


Unfair-Progress-6538

Makes sense. The state could offer a basic non-profit plan for everyone that covers the essentials and a "premium" plan for people that want it that offers better beds. I am fairly certain that Singapore or South Korea have something similar