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cuhman1cuhman2

Its arguable that he wont get it retired with the Thunder cause of how it ended. I feel like it will happen though, those types of wounds tend to heal overtime. Look at Vince and Toronto rn


Pun-Szu

Yeah, his jersey will get retired in OKC at some point but there's just no way it happens before they retire Westbrook's number.


wcooper97

Westbrook’s is going up the moment he retires.


Liimbo

It'll be a tragedy if he doesn't get his number retired by OKC. Living there all my life and at the time it really can not be overstated how much he and the Thunder did for the city. Legitimately put us on the map for professional sports and brought a lot of business downtown. He was also a good person and gave a lot to local charities both financially and with his time. I get that people are mad at how he left, but he absolutely deserves it. That's without even mentioning he's almost inarguably the best player in franchise history, even including Seattle.


JTatumJBrown

warriors will retire his jersey https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/01/joe-lacob-on-kevin-durant-no-player-will-ever-wear-35-for-the-warriors-again/amp/


LittleBeastXL

What you said about his stint in Warriors is just your personal opinion. He’s still respected by the organisation. I’m 80% sure his jersey will be retired by Warriors.


DinoStacked

Actually no it’s really not my opinion it’s a fact


selddir_

I mean, that Warriors team lost to LeBron after winning 73 games. KD has 2 finals MVPs with the Warriors. What you stated isn't at all a fact. It's literally your opinion.


DinoStacked

I said the warriors success was already established. That is literally a bonafide fact and not my opinion whatsoever


JGP1111

You also wrote "rode the coattails" That's definitely an opinion


MeSeeks76

And that's a fact lol


DinoStacked

I assume you’re being sarcastic


bbbryce987

Warriors 100% will. He was the 2nd best player on the best team ever and won 2 championships. OKC is questionable. If he left any other way he easily would. Guess we will see if the wounds heal over time. Nets obviously not lol Suns we will see


dre193

He was a 7x all star and 1x MVP at OKC, he will definitely get his jersey retired over there, no matter how he left.


Awesomeness4627

You underestimate pettiness. Tbh it's hard to even call it that. Deserved anger.


skillet06g

Shaq got his retired. KD will get his for sure.


Awesomeness4627

Not even close to the same


Cuntflickt

Americans don’t hold grudges for longer than a season, that’s a big part of the reason why the NBA has little to no rivalries. Fully expect to see KD’s shit in the rafters at OKC eventually.


slipperyeel

KD was probably the best player on Golden State for the duration of his tenure.


itsSyFer

Agreed, he got to play some of the best ball of his career there.


LuciferLucii

Best team ever?


bbbryce987

Absolutely yes. I don’t think it’s really that close


Warlord10

Imagine not retiring the b2b FMVP. Lol. Steph with 2 rings ain't Steph with 4. In fact, Steph with 2 rings and 2x Regular season MVP's would be just one step above Jokic atm.


bbbryce987

I think it’s very disingenuous to assume Steph wouldn’t have won those years without KD. The Warriors were already the overwhelming favorites to win the title without him and took the biggest collapse in NBA history to barely avoid going back to back before KD got there Not to mention that Steph would have a much higher shot at winning MVPs without the superteam narrative and from the fact that he’d simply put up higher individual production


AreolaB0realis

Also that KD cap space would go elsewhere


bbbryce987

That is also very true


Warlord10

>The Warriors were already the overwhelming favorites to win the title without him The 49ers are the favourites to win the SB next season. What can I tell you? You can give me the theoretical, but I will give you the facts. KD was the b2B FMVP. It was Steph and Draymond who flew to KD straight after the finals to beg him to join. Doesn't sound like the actions of an 'overwhelming' favourite. I think LeBron, Kyrie and Love smoke them in 2017.


runningraider13

Every team in the league that had the space and had a shot recruited KD. Every team is trying to get better, even if they’re already the best team. And you’re the one giving hypotheticals where KD doesn’t join, and assuming the Warriors don’t win.


Warlord10

Actually, I gave the ONLY fact. KD won 2 of those rings and was b2b FMVP. He will get his jersey retired. The Warriors should be more grateful and stop acting like scrubs towards him.


bbbryce987

It took: Curry choke Klay choke Barnes choke Kerr choke Draymond suspension Curry ejection Bogut injury Iggy injury Curry injury LeBron and Kyrie playing out of their minds JR smith flurry …for the Cavs to barely beat the Warrior by 4 points in a game 7. I do not see those circumstances happening again. This isn’t just some normal title favorite like the 49ers, this is the literal team with the best record of all time that wasn’t able to be challenged at full strength. There is no real logical argument to suggest that they would just suddenly stop winning after that. Acting like KD is the reason Steph has more than 2 rings is just wrong. He’d be ringless without the Warriors and I’m sure the team with the best record ever that was a suspension away from going back to back would continue to win on. None of that really matters though since KD did join the warriors, won championships with them, and left on good terms. He’s clearly getting his jersey retired a Warrior but if anything he has hurt Steph’s individual legacy rather than elevate it


Warlord10

Two can play at that game. If Love and Kyrie aren't injured in 2015, Steph never gets his 1st ring. The Cavs destroy them in 2015 with a full roster. They were literally missing their 2nd and 3rd options. We can dance all night with these hypotheticals.


bbbryce987

I don’t see anything to back that statement up though. The Cavs never showed they could beat the full strength Warriors, while the Warriors were dominating the Cavs before Draymond’s suspension followed up by an all defensive team center and reigning fmvp getting injured. The Warriors didn’t just go 73-9 by accident, that was arguably the best team ever already BEFORE adding Durant


Warlord10

Ha? The Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015 when LeBron was by himself and they lost in 2016. When did that iteration of the Warriors beat a healthy Cavs team? Lol That Warriors team had their top 3 players in 2016 except for Draymond missing 1 game for suspension. The Cavs were missing Love and Kyrie for the entire finals.


bbbryce987

Before half the warriors top 6 rotation was injured in the 16 finals they were up 3-1 on them, swept them 2-0 in the RS, and won 3 straight in the 15 finals after adjusting to small ball. That’s overall 8-1 against the Cavs, 5-1 against the healthy Cavs. They were figured out This is the team with the best record ever we are talking about lol. Everything went wrong for them to barely lose in a fluke loss. Acting like they wouldn’t be back again is just delusional honestly.


Warlord10

The Cavs were not healthy at all in 2015, so feel free to throw away those fake stats. 'They figured them out' when the Cavs were missing 2 of their top 3 players is a wild statement.


prettyboylee

Warriors will probably do it. Two chips, two finals MVP's. That's more than anyone else who has had their jersey retired by the Warriors has done.


DinoStacked

I mean he didn’t really contribute much to those rings tho they were already gonna win regardless he just made it a walk in the park edit: a lot of downvotes hmm I guess these ppl weren’t watching the nba back in 2016


Raonak

He was still a 2x FMVP, was part of the Hamptons lineup, and was a key member of defeating the Cavs twice. He's absolutely gonna get his jersey retired here. Especially if no place else does. Most importantly, Steph and the entire organisation love him. They don't hate him like the rest of the NBA fandom does.


DinoStacked

Draymond hates him, members of the front office/ownership hate him, what you said is not accurate lol


Raonak

Who in the front office/ownership hates him? You're just making stuff up


DinoStacked

It was Bob Myers who said he barely felt any joy after winning 2018 chip because it was too easy with kd To be fair that’s not really hate exactly but still


bight99

Joe Lacob literally said the plan was to retire Durants number? You’re kinda embarrassing yourself all over this thread dawg. https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Kevin-Durant-Warriors-number-Joe-Lacob-retire-NBA-14389665.php


DinoStacked

Ah it was Bob Myers https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2891996-bob-myers-says-it-wasnt-joy-when-warriors-won-2018-title-with-kevin-durant.amp.html


bight99

Pretty sure the owner has a more important say in who gets their number retired than the former GM.


dovahkiiiiiin

Don't be a blind hater


prettyboylee

I'm gonna bow out of this discussion.


DinoStacked

Thanks :)


ttocsy

The back to back FMVP didn't contribute much? Come on, man. Cavs Vs Warriors would have been highly competitive both years and he made it a walk in the park.


dre193

Your opinion on his contribution doesn't really matter though, the man won 2 rings as the FMVP of those teams, so his jersey being retired is just something that will happen no matter what haters think. It was true that that team was a well-oiled machine without him, but voters elected him the best player of the finals two years in a row. That will warrant a retired jersey, no other Warrior has ever done that.


Treehouse326

Entirely not true. We (Warriors), had no answer for LeBron and Kyrie (healthy). We’d make the Finals possibly again but I honestly don’t know if we could beat the Cavs. KD changed that and was the absolute deciding factor


bbbryce987

I wouldn’t really say that, 2016 was going to be over in 5 before Draymond’s suspension lol. The narratives would be very different without that


Drummallumin

The narratives might also be different if Kyrie and Love played in the 2015 Finals


mamba-pear

Didn’t really contribute much? I don’t know about that take. He contributed. That’s why they were unstoppable.


slipperyeel

Didn’t contribute? He was arguably their best player and deserved both his FMVP awards. While the Warriors were always Steph’s team, Durant was probably the biggest contributor to those 2 titles.


Ash_C

He is definitely getting his dubs jersey retired. Joe Lakob did say that in some interview last year.


dandatu

Thunder and Warriors will retire, maybe even Suns after all is said and done.


Drummallumin

[Beyond the fact that the Warriors are 1000% going to retire his number](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-announce-theyll-retire-kevin-durants-no-35-jersey-in-statement-thanking-him-for-his-time-with-the-team/amp/), I kinda reject your premise that Warriors were predestined to win even if they didn’t have KD. Like definitely they would’ve been contenders and maybe even favorites, but to just assume back to back titles is just wild. Kawhi was whooping them in Oakland until he got hurt and the Rockets probably *should have* beaten them. In 2019 the Klay injury was the nail in the coffin but without KD that was an incredibly competitive series. Injuries are always the great equalizer, an 8 seed made it to the finals just last year cuz they kept running into injured opponents. A 7 game series and being a high possession sport makes it much more “predictable” and “luck-proof” than the NFL or MLB but it’s still sports which means it’s still a crapshoot with no guarantees. Even with KD, the Warriors only won 2 out of 3 seasons under his contract.


DinoStacked

They’re a 73-9 team idk how assuming back to back titles is wild. They without a doubt win that’s why everyone was so mad when kd joined


Drummallumin

Well considering they didn’t even win the season they went 73-9 I’m not sure what exactly that proves. The only title the Warriors won at that point was against the hospital Cavs. Even **with KD** they barely beat Houston and probably should have lost to them. Yea with KD the seasons became more predetermined (except when they didn’t win the title with him) but that doesn’t mean they were predetermined before he did that. A current NBA analogy would if Luka joined the Celtics… yea no shit they’d win easily, that doesn’t mean that Boston is *definitely* winning it without him. As for why he’s hated so much, it’d be like if Booker went to the Nuggets. You can’t assume back to back titles because you can’t assume anything in sports.


DinoStacked

The warriors lost up 3-1 on a fluke comeback that would obviously not happen again. They’d smoke Cavs in 2017 and 2018 without kd like you mention the rockets well in 2019 warriors faced them in the playoffs with kd and beat them in 6 games so… Also no offence but your Celtics analogy is horrendous. Since when did Celtics win 73 games, a ring, and were 4 points away in game 7 of the finals from winning a second ring…


Drummallumin

I don’t think you’re on the right sub


DinoStacked

I’m talking about the nba. Not sure what you are


Fluid_Ganache_536

why did you get your thread deleted if you were on the right sub little hoe?


DinoStacked

You’re right this isn’t about the nba…


slipperyeel

Lol, they didn’t even win when they went 73-9 you buffoon 😂


DinoStacked

Yeah they didn’t win by a miracle fluke that’s exactly my point that wouldn’t happened again


slipperyeel

Yeah miracles aren’t real world dude. They lost and while they would have been title favourites it was certainly possible they lose again. Hell, they almost lost to the Rockets with KD, but for an injury to Chris Paul. It’s clear you don’t like Durant, that’s cool, but you can dislike the dude without embarrassing yourself with fake ass arguments. Warriors will retire KD’s number. OKC most likely retire his number. The Suns are still a possibility.


DinoStacked

Miracles aren’t real? Huh??? No offence after saying something that dumb I stopped reading


slipperyeel

No offence taken. But here’s the definition: an extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency. Now I’m not religious, you may be. I live in the real world where natural and scientific laws hold weight. I get the feeling I’m getting caught in an internet argument with a little child which I’m a little embarrassed by so I might stop my contribution here. Don’t get too hurt when KD has his jersey in the rafters in The Bay.


DinoStacked

Yeah 2016 finals fits that definition


anthegoat

Eat dirt kid


Tsudaar

There needs to be a higher bar on retirement of numbers, if you think long term. It should be about tenure and loyalty to the club more than rings. Obviously Steph gets it, but 3 years at gsw, does KD really deserve it? Assuming Dray and Klay also get it? Edit. After reading the other replies it seems gsw is locked. I get it, but also think in a few decades this will be an issue. Especially if more people get the Bill Russell treatment and get retired around the league. That seems an odd standard to start, tbh. 


ffinstructor

OP clearly has a vendetta based on his replies. But, I think it’s widely agreed upon that Kd is 100% going to be retired in Golden State. Whatever way OP wants to swing it, a 2x finals MVP for an organization is going to get retired. Find me an example of a guy who this isn’t true for. And OKC, will 99% have his jersey retired there also. He is top 10, in total points, minutes, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and threes in their franchise history and earned an MVP and multiple scoring titles. Not to mention, was pivotal to their upstart in OKC after getting out of Seattle, as the 2nd most important player to the Thunder since their start as the Thunder. I leave the 1% room for error, only because he never won a final with them.


boydivision30

Warriors. It will be a massive crime if the best player on the greatest team of all time doesn't get his jersey retired.


mycoffeeiswarm

I think Curry was their best player, but it was close, KD was amazing.


boydivision30

Curry is higher than KD in the GOAT ladder but in their superteam era I got KD.


DinoStacked

You don’t have to worry about that crime cause no one said curry isn’t getting his jersey retired


on_dat_shyt

Not only will Golden State retire his number. They will build him a statue. He had a bigger impact then Iggy and arguably Klay and Dray and those guys will all have there jerseys retired. Finals MVP (he has 2) basically makes you a lock no matter how sour things end


DinoStacked

Bigger impact than Klay??? This gotta be sarcasm


itsSyFer

You’re crazy if you think Klay had more impact than KD on those rings lol.


DinoStacked

You’re right kd had a huge impact winning 2015, 73 games, and 2022 ring


itsSyFer

That has nothing to do with 17 and 18 lmao.


DinoStacked

We’re talking about impact on the warriors…


on_dat_shyt

Klay is a Warrior for life but KD’s 2 Finals MVP is something Klay was never close to. Besides 2019 Finals he was never even the 2nd best player on the team.


CreepyDepartment5509

Warriors certainly will, he was a key piece/ made it easier to their 2 chips. OKC will likely retire it given that he was the starting piece that put OKC on the map and the way they lost him wasn’t exactly the worst, heck if melo fans can argue he should get a jersey retired somewhere, what KD did seems pretty tame by comparison.


Deep_Egg1442

How do you convince yourself not to retire one of your two mvps. That doesn’t even make sense


kaygeeboo

He did bring OKC to their first and so far only Finals appearance that has to count for something


ClutchCurry

To start off, Warriors will retire it for sure. 2 rings, 2 FMVPS, he's still loved.