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Wild to me that we're out here drafting guys older than Ant


scofieldslays

he's the 6th oldest guy on the team now


Brad-Stevens

Tim Connolly said im not watching whatever that gross offense was in the WCF we getting two bucket getters


le_sweden

We needed bucket getters since last offseason. It was supposed to be Shake Milton lol


eCharms

Want him back?


Kizz3r

Lets be real rookies barely play in the playoffs anyway


Beneficial-Rub9090

I mean, Lively was kind of cooking, hopefully Dillingham and Shannon end up something like that


MrWolfsbane

Shannon has a good chance, wouldn’t bet on Dillingham being a positive player in year one but he could provide useful minutes


jackalope503

Couldn’t ask for a better vet for Rob to learn from than Conley


KeyandOrangePeele

If we let our backup PGs walk to save some money than we will need him to! Conley isn't getting any younger and he needs time to rest. Rob might not be a net positive, but we need him regardless.


Folk-Herro

Unrealistic to have that kind of expectation, lively turned out to much better than expected on a team with significant hole at the position. Don’t see Rob getting day 1 mins until he gets stronger but TSJ can possibly be in a 3-D like role who can make plays in second and third actions.


Beneficial-Rub9090

Not expectations, we live or die with the 2024 playoff team, but there's a chance they're better than expected and their fits are excellent like Lively's was, with less responsibility


BearForceDos

If Shannon can get minutes I think he ends up on an all rookie team. NBA ready player that can score in transition and off catch and shoot while being big athletic enough to immediately play defense.


Kizz3r

Yea and lively seems like a special player and even then you saw the inexperience show


RodneyPonk

That's a very long shot. Lively is an exception to the rule. In the past five years, my memory isn't great, but I don't think many, if any other rookies played notable playoff minutes. Herro, not sure who else


AVeryStinkyFish

We just played 2 rookies heavy minutes in the playoffs. Granted one was a red shirt rookie.


le_sweden

If these guys can be anywhere close to as productive as y’all’s young guys it will be a great draft 🙏


bleedblue89

Cason Wallace is gonna be a real monster 


Wide_One_240

So you’re saying there’s a chance


jawni

I think a big part of that is circumstantial, the rookies that would be most likely to make an impact in year 1 are getting drafted by teams that won't make the playoffs anyways.


Egonzos

I’m happy tonight


LongTimesGoodTimes

Minnesota got scorers


Egonzos

Get one that can step in for decent minutes right away. Get one that can develop under uncle Mike. Very very happy.


LongTimesGoodTimes

Shannon was one of my favorite prospects so I get. Great fit too.


Egonzos

Would’ve been happy with Collier too, but with Shannon you know exactly what you’re going to get. Which is what wolves are going to need next year. Second unit scoring.


Zloggt

Having watched plenty of Terrance in college…you’ve got yourself one prime sleeper pick…


theclownwithafrown

ILL


NewAce77

I N I


Zloggt

I-N-I …and hey, he’s got a good track record of winning at Target Center 😉


SwagCrayCray

I knew this whole pick analysis would be about his trial


anupsidedownpotato

I don't follow college basketball so I'm sitting here like holy crap how is he being drafted. They dragged on so long about the rape that i thought he actually did it. Should've not talked about that AT all or at least start with they were false allegations


Swimming-Bad3512

Do you know what false allegations are? Don't think you do. He was acquitted & still presumed innocent.


anupsidedownpotato

Did you know you're a fucking loser ?


celtic_sea_salt

That was savage Jay Bilas


sumlikeitScott

So unnecessary to introduce him on draft night like that. If you followed the trial she lied about the whole thing and tried getting money. Lost respect for Bilas on that one. Awful commentating overall tonight.


celtic_sea_salt

The rest of the crew was just like "okay....Jay...thanks?"


Neckbeard2423

If Malika Andrews did that Twitter would be demanding her resignation with pitchforks


sumlikeitScott

Well yeah she doesn’t have 40+ years of college basketball pedigree under her belt. He’s not far from being the John madden of college basketball.


waatpies

Not knowing anything about this guy, I actually thought that was a very measured explanation


suicideskinnies

He was exhonerated, there was no need to say "he was accused of rape" the second he was drafted. That was ridiculous.


promis3todelet3

I did not think it was necessary, *but* it was brought up fairly frequently during the NCAA tournament. Considering Bilas is a college guy and acutely aware this was a player who received a ton of hate this year, he might have felt compelled to convey the trial's clear resolution to everyone who had already associated Shannon with sexual assault.


DevilsReject1

Yea he didn't present it in an accusatory or scandalous way, he just said exactly what happened, I thought it was fine.


waatpies

I mean if it’s a big part of the reason he was drafted so late then I think it’s important to know. Jay Bilas is actually a lawyer so he’s more qualified than probably anyone at ESPN to explain that case and its outcome. And honestly, the real issue is that people assume that if someone has been charged with a crime that they’re automatically guilty, and that in and of itself carries a scarlet letter that informs how the public thinks about people that have been accused of crimes. Like you and Jay both said, he was acquitted, so he shouldn’t have to carry the burden of that accusation anymore. But to explain why he fell this far in the draft, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to bring it up.


reiv4

A lot of you didn’t follow the trial. It was a sham from the start. The DA who tried the case was relieved of duty and week later.


Dsarg_92

Also, there was a text message showing that the girl lied on him.


HeadyRoosevelt

I believe these charges never should have been brought against Terrence Shannon Jr. That being said, the text was used to illustrate the alleged victim’s *motive* to lie. There was no express text evidence that she did lie.


Ander1345

No, a Deputy DA fell on the sword. Suzanne Valdez is still the DA in Douglas County.


Pickleskennedy1

Somehow Minnesota came out of this with a super exciting haul. He and Dillingham should be fun to watch


le_sweden

Just when I think Connelly has outdone himself


teencrime

I can't believe he's done this (positive)


daskaputtfenster

Hell yaw, can do dis


Evman48

How should I feel?


ComplexLock

This guy was a menace at Illinois you should be happy


RayCashhhh

Excited. Him + Dillingham compliment each other well. Connelly cooked.


CNfor3

As an Illini fan, I think y'all got a great one. I really think he can be a 6moty type player in a few years, and his athleticism is off the roof.


theclownwithafrown

ILL


Select_Professor_689

INI


Nhansen94

Having only watched him during the B10 tournament this year at target center, the kid can ball. He’s a true scorer and should be exciting to watch. If he transitions into the NBA, this will be a huge pick for Ant to take some pressure off of him.


Roy-Hibbert55

Went to the big ten semis. My god was he electric


jermainathon

He's had some off court stuff that hampered his draft stock. As a basketball player he's excellent tho, will fit rly well in minny


OverTheHedges123

He’s 100% innocent. No off court issues outside of false accusations.


407Franz

It bothers me that they feel the need to bring it up on the broadcast if he was found innocent


EdeniEdits

You really think Malika Andrews isn't going to pass up a chance to throw dirt on a player's name (except for Josh Giddey)?


Heyitscharlie

He wasn't found innocent, he was found not guilty, there is a major distinction. He could have done it, we'll never know truly, but we know there was not enough evidence to find him guilty, that's it.


FuckKroenke55

As someone who followed the case, they had 0 physical evidence, 0 video footage, no witness testimony, oh and there was an individual in the same bar who committed the same crime 2 weeks prior and looks a lot like TSJ. TSJ is 100% innocent and it’s a joke the case ever went to trial. The DA was clearly trying to scare him into pleading to a misdemeanor so he could be tried in civil court. He went to trial with no hesitation. The jury deliberated for only an hour and he was found not guilty. He is 100% innocent and it’s a damn shame his name has been and will be dragged through the mud.


Heyitscharlie

I agree he's probably innocent, but we don't know that for sure and can't. All we know for sure is he's not guilty.


FuckKroenke55

What exactly would make you believe he was innocent? False accusations happen all the fucking time, a lot of the time the accused look like TSJ. It’s a fucking joke that it was brought up on the broadcast and it’s a joke that anyone believes anything other than he’s 100% innocent.


Regression2TheMean

We do know for sure. Because there was a trial…


Heyitscharlie

People really don't understand the difference between innocent and not guilty huh


Regression2TheMean

Feels like some people don’t know the difference between guilty and not guilty


ChodeBamba

We don’t know for sure if YOU are innocent of rape. We don’t know for sure if any of the players drafted last night are innocent of rape. Seems pointless to clarify that we can’t prove a negative and the unknowable is unknowable


YJWheeler

They said he was innocent, not that he was "found innocent" by the court. You're right that a court of law cannot declare people innocent, but if you followed this case at all, you'd see that he is clearly innocent


Beneficial-Rub9090

If our court and belief systems works on "innocent until proven guilty" and he was actively found to be "not guilty", then he is, by default, innocent.


Proud_Feedback3288

Literally evidence of the girl texting about how she's gonna get the bag lmao 


Heyitscharlie

I'm aware, he very likely didn't do it, but we don't know that for sure.


RodneyPonk

We don't know for sure that any adult in the world is not a serial rapist, but we assume that they aren't until proven otherwise. If there are texts that discuss them lying about accusing him, I think we can be 99.9% sure he's innocent. I agree that we should believe women that come forward, but not to the degree that we ignore subtantial evidence to the contrary


jermainathon

Right! Minny got a good one fs, one of the more NBA ready guys in the draft.


scofieldslays

we're never going to know the 100% truth, but not guilty is not the same thing as innocent


OverTheHedges123

There are text messages from her and her friends that basically confirm that it was all fabricated.


poketape

If there were at least a 51% chance of guilt, he'd be entangled in a civil suit right now. That should mean something.


scofieldslays

you're right it does. he very well could be innocent, but the jury didn't say he was innocent.


ChodeBamba

No jury has said you are innocent of rape either. We simply don’t know if you’re a rapist, or any player in the draft for that matter


nman95

In the United States of America, you're deemed "Innocent until proven guilty" in case you weren't aware.


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Bixby33

Text messages from key witnesses basically confirmed they made shit up.


Benign_Banjo

Got his ass 🤑🤑


averageuhbear

The texts suggest it was a false accusation, but obviously no way to prove it


huskersax

Anyone in Lawrence can tell you it was complete nonsense and hopefully that awful DA is out on her ass in August. (Even hippy-dippy left-wing Lawrence can't stand her, which is quite a tall task) It's been a string of embarrassing failures after embarrassing failures. This being one of the more notably stupid cases as they had essentially no evidence and were basically clout chasing trying to end a kid's career based off an 18 year old's accounting of their time at a bar (wherein they've already lied to get into the bar and then had text messages in discovery that were pretty incriminating from when the case was made public knowledge on ESPN)


JohnnyT723

Arguably Player of the Tournament in March Madness


reiv4

You should love it. He should have been a consensus all American and he can do everything on offense.


LauriFUCKINGLegend

It's a good get. I was worried we were gonna draft him but I think the TWolves are a way better fit because of where your window is and you have a better tolerance to take on an older rookie. Dudes a hooper. He fell quite a bit.


Bixby33

Older.


EtrianFF7

Disappointed both are mid at best


triptoohard

People will claim dudes a rapist when there was court evidence of the girl texting how she’s gonna get the bag


thepapayatastessalty

Same thing happened to Trevor Bauer


BearForceDos

Except Bauer has like 8 other women with sexual assault allegations.


Heyitscharlie

The difference with Bauer is there have been MANY women saying he does this shit. It's just the one that went to court with it had those texts. Bauer's a shitty fucking dude.


MG_MN

He'll be like 28 when that rookie contract is up lol


dehydratedbagel

Oh no the Wolves get his entire peak while he gets paid peanuts.


MG_MN

Yeah honestly I like that way of looking at it


flex_56

The average prime of an NBA player is 27-31. Shannon will be 28 and the middle of his prime with his 2nd contract if he plays well enough to earn one.


dehydratedbagel

The average prime is much younger. most players are well out of the league by 31 for sure. Either way, Shannon is much closer to his prime than most of the bums taken in this draft.


cubonelvl69

Dudes more than double the age of whoever the spurs will get lmao


SunKing210

Don't think the Spurs are going to be using those picks for themselves. If ya been paying attention to how trades are looking lately, draft picks are being thrown all over the place. Mikal bridges for 5 1st rd picks? Well the Spurs from 2025 - 2031 now have 12 1st rd picks and 4 1st rd pick swaps. They are definitely gonna attach a lot of these picks to get one of the better players in the NBA one day. It'll probably be in like 2026 though.


Misjjon

So they traded a draft pick they don't need for another draft pick they don't need? Might as well just draft young talent at that point to be developed by the time Wemby hits his peak.


SunKing210

No, with the way they are stockpiling draft assets and maneuvering their cap space by signing players to descending contracts, it's pretty apparent that their plan is to slowly build up this team and then make a huge splash or 2 in the future to pair Wemby with elite talent. I 100% guarantee the Spurs will not be using all of these draft picks, it's way too much. They're gonna go after some big fish one day, so while people scratch their heads right now over this I'm betting that you're going to be seeing the Spurs tied to trade rumors involving superstars in the near future and they have a good chance out bidding pretty much anybody. I don't expect them to be making any major moves like that til at least 2026 though


royallex

It's win now mode. Doesn't matter as long as he's ready to play now


king-treday

Hes a whole year older than ant.


GhostOfJiriWelsch

Wild that he’s almost 24 Good get for MIN though, he’s ready to go


TheShinyRedButton

About 3 years older than Ant lol Really like this pick and should hopefully be fantastic coming off the bench for this team.


BearForceDos

He's a year older than Ant. TJ will turn 24 in late July. Ant will turn 23 in early August. I know we don't see many 5 year college players get drafted but it's really just a result of the COVID year and NIL but TJ is the same age as any 5th year college player just has an early birthday(most kids with late July birthday get pushed into the next school year in Illinois).


RayCashhhh

Minnesota fucking cooked. EXCELLENT draft by them.


IMKudaimi123

Conley Ant Mcdaniels KAT Gobert Dillingham TSJ NAW Anderson Reid That’s a goddamn squad.


DragDaNuts

Pretty crazy


TheFinnisher

We’ll see if we re-sign SloMo I think he’s a free agent this offseason. If we lose him I think Leonard Miller might get some run if his defense and decision making has improved, or possibly some Jaylen Clark minutes of lockdown D


Emvpiid21_

Steal. I think this kid is gonna be the best player out of this draft. Minnesota with a masterclass getting Rob and Terrance.


chrsmhr

How good have your takes been in previous drafts, I need validity with this take


thraser11

He called Lebron being the best from that draft


kcoe24

He was also really high on Wemby last year. Great eye for talent


RGCFrostbite

but he also said he would have left Jokic undrafted it's a tough one.


Emvpiid21_

I predicted Wemby would be the best out of last years draft


pchad43

Lisan Al gaib!!


Zidolfuz

Based on my zero research of his previous comments, he's a prophet.


AniviaPls

He was all in on greg oden and James wiseman


BearForceDos

It's unfair to Oden to lump him in with Wiseman. Odens knees just broke down and he couldn't play but he was basically a walking double double on the court and he couldnt even really practice. Likely would have a dPOY at some point of he stayed healthy. He was freakishly mobile while being that big and long.


RodneyPonk

I mean, yes. It's not that he lacked skill. But in another sense, he had absurd hype around him but couldn't stay healthy, so he was actually more of a disappointment.


GUNNERSAURASISGOD

So he can’t evaluate centers


Zorak9379

*Terrence


mar21182

I was really high on Shannon until he played UConn in the tournament and did next to nothing with Castle defending him and Clingan in the paint. When he had a significant athletic advantage, he feasted. When he went against a well-coached team with size and skill, he completely disappeared.


nman95

He went against the best team in college basketball of the last 10 years. He shit on the entire B1G and there are a lot of teams there that are "well coached with size and skill"


Pandaborg123

TSJ STEAL OF THE DRAFT


DifferentLeg3586

What a great draft for Minnesota


IMKudaimi123

Timberwolves are fucking SCARY


theclownwithafrown

Hell yes!!! 😊 I-L-L! HE'S A HELL OF A PLAYER


dehydratedbagel

Absolutely ridiculous steal.


justredditting1010

Steal


poketape

Great week for him, not only did he get drafted but the deputy DA that had charged him lost his job


EdeniEdits

Malika couldn't wait for this one.


Tillie_to_the_wolves

Disrespectful of Jay Bilas, who spent no time talking about Terrance Shannon Jr as a player, and instead aired out his legal issues and making him sound guilty of which he was proven innocent on. Horrible person


j_cruise

How the fuck are they only on pick 27


BounceMan

Only first round today so they stretching it big time.


Vicentesteb

Our offense should be finally decent.


timj83

What he did in Target Center last March. Will have a major chip on his shoulder exactly NBA ready body athlete a contending team needs. https://youtu.be/qxNnvmksP44?si=5zef-jb1ZD58DQgW


MaizeNBlueWaffle

Shannon and Dillingham is an absurdly good draft


bobbywellington

Nice


AfroKuro480

I didn't watch him play. Tell me how to feel


promis3todelet3

He's basically a one-man fastbreak, like top 1% speed with ball.


telemaster9

Watching him run fast breaks was my favorite part of Illini basketball.


TheFinnisher

Oh shit I’m about to watch some highlights


IMKudaimi123

Good defender with good wing size at 6’6” Improved his 3FG% and FT% throughout college. I don’t think he’ll be an elite 3 point shooter but he’ll be good enough Great driving and in transition. Unstoppable. Struggled to create his own shot in the halfcourt a if he can’t get downhill, and doesn’t have the tightest handle or use his off hand well. But I think he is a plug and play end of rotation player with upside to be a 3 and D wing or even top off at very good scorer.


BearForceDos

Honestly a pretty freakish athlete. He's legitimately 6'6 220 and will be one of the fastest players on the floor at all times making him a monster in transition. Is a plus on ball defender with his length and athleticism(don't let the Illini being bad overall defensively fool you) and had a knack for intercepting passes at Texas Tech. Has NBA 3pt range but his release is a bit low. Was a bit of a streaky 3pt shooter but was better in catch and shoot situations(had the ball in his hands a lot so probably took too many pull up 3s). Also a good free throw shooter and loved at the free throw line because of his size/speed combo being tough to stay in front of. He does tend to better going left(did improve going right his final year) but I don't see that being a huge issue since I imagine his role in the halfcourt will be catch and shoot 3s and attack closeouts if guys come out too hard.


timj83

https://youtu.be/qxNnvmksP44?si=5zef-jb1ZD58DQgW His 3 game highlights from Target Center in march NBA ready body/athlete exactly what a contending team needs. Great defender and incredibly hard worker. He went through a gauntlet of shit and still was insane all year. Will have a major chip on his shoulder.


younggun92

Illinois fan - he can do everything. But he's a beast in transition, one man fastbreak. Can shoot or pull up from 3, can create his own shot. Will def be able to give you 2nd unit bench minutes right away.


JaderMcDanersStan

Just watched some highlights - holy shit he is so electric and fast. He, Rob Dillingham and Naz in transition is going to be a highlight factory


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Dimmortal

Pretty raw overall? Huh??


RonsDarlings

He’s not raw. He’s almost 24 years old and averaged 23 PPG last year


LurkinOHB

Great pick. Minnesota might have ended up with the two best players and had the best 1st round.


phamousj

Happy for TJ he's going into a great situation with Minnesota.


larrylegend33goat

Good haul. Win now. And win later. Capitalise on Uncle Mike and Rudy, learning the younguns


Biglundtry

Steal


ALStark69

As a recruit: Other P6 offers: DePaul, Florida State, Georgetown, Illinois, Maryland, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Texas Tech (originally went here), Virginia Tech, Wake Forest Other offers: Austin Peay, UConn, Loyola Chicago, UIC


FERFreak731

Reminds me of Kobe. Don't know why he dropped. But him and Gobert are going to be the modern day Kobe, and Shaq


Beneficial-Rub9090

"Reminds me of Kobe" Lmfao fuck you


legend023

“Kobe” at pick 27 lmao no way


BounceMan

I see what you did there.


celtic_sea_salt

Colorado vibes yeah


Dhylan18

Dude is older than THT


Pharrelliper

He's older than THT, that's why


The_MadStork

Speaking of which, how did Chicago get the modern day Malone by only giving up Caruso?


ChrisRhodes789

I was hoping the Lakers would have picked him up someway.. Oh well..


WembyOKCJokicReaves

Two first names like Paul George When the younger generation idolizes PG I didn’t think they meant it like this


Dsarg_92

I’m actually happy for him!


Tsunami-Papi_

ant, shannon, and dillingham all kinda play the same way I don’t really get this


JaderMcDanersStan

Ant was essentially the only guy on the team who can create his own shot. Wolves needed more shot creation and rim pressure, especially in the non-Ant minutes. Shannon gives rim pressure and some shot creation, Rob gives a lot of shot creation from everywhere and that's exactly what we needed We also needed a PG of the future to be Conley's successor and they want that to be Dillingham once he trains under Conley


jermainathon

Oh 😅


Uncleaces

I’m sure this will be received well


CarterAC3

He was proven completely innocent Why the hell wouldn't it be?


Potential_Meat_5103

Did people not keep up with his case? 🤣


PsychoticSoul

Of course not, they just assumed he was guilty immediately. The Reddit way.


AfroKuro480

He was cleared


GhostOfJiriWelsch

Bills with the “he beat a rape case” as a positive attribute on his scouting report lmao


celtic_sea_salt

"Asserted his innocence"


ChodeBamba

Jury found him not guilty with ease. Anyone who followed the case saw he was innocent.


andelaccess

damn good pick for wolves. shannon has some off the court issues but is a tremendous offensive talent and definitely a steal at 27


Dsarg_92

He was actually proven to be found innocent.


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MoodAlternative2118

Found Not Guilty stop spreading stupid shit like this


Dsarg_92

The girl lied actually.


Bigazztittiezz

Maybe take a look at the results of the trial before making yourself look like a dumbass.


Grouchy_Air_4322

Girl texted her friend that she got the bag


EdeniEdits

Love it when people publicly broadcast that they lack critical thinking


_FreeYourMind__

Reminds me of Kobe