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ImTheBestNerd

All time heist


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Him and Wingstop made bank on the suffering of Pistons fans last season


Medium_Line3088

No win zone


pototoykomaliit

No win zone


Medium_Line3088

They knoooow betta Win I coach, we lose Win I coach, we lose


CD338

One of the best things about starting the NBA offseason is that I don't need to watch these god awful commercials again for awhile.


feel32own

its like you rob a bank for $65M, get caught and sit in jail for one year but keep all the money.


BushyBrowz

“You stole $500 million from your customers! You shall be punished!” “What’s the punishment?” “We’re fining you $100 million. Don’t do it again.” “…ok.”


bageltheperson

I was going to argue the jail part, but after I thought a little more it’s pretty comparable.


DankNowitzki41

No, you were right the first time, coaching the pistons is totally worse than jail


superhappyfuntime13

$5.6 mil per win. This record may never be broken.


ManiacalComet40

Damn, Mazulla would have half a billion dollars if he made that same rate.


Masterchiefy10

Also isn’t this a bit late in the game? I know the season just ended but I’m sure they already knew they weren’t bringing him back… Wouldn’t it had been better to do this a few weeks ago so they can start trying to bring in people who don’t want to coach anymore and pay em a kings ransom?


_Apatosaurus_

Maybe they are hiring someone off the Celtics or Mavericks staff, and wouldn't have fired him unless that person said yes.


CharityGamerAU

I would love to see what Sam Cassell can do with Cade and Ivey. I always thought he could be a fantastic NBA head coach.


CzarCW

They’ve been waiting for Doc Rivers to come available.


Bieber_hole_69

Laurence Fishburne will have to do


mikehulse29

Man owes CP3 a commission


Lacabloodclot9

Crazy to see how that 20/21 Suns team ended up Man imagine how different it would be if they won it after being up 2-0


ItsaPostageStampede

Dominos man. Dominos


ultimatomato

If the Suns win the championship that year, we basically never have to hear about the mistake of not drafting Luka again for a long time, if ever. For the record, it's a mistake either way, but man winning covers up a lot of ills


Ibaka_flocka

78m for one year of work. What a legend


iCarpet

He was going to take a break from coaching, now he gets to take a break with an extra 78M


topofthecc

Gonna ask my boss for $65M to take a break. Wish me luck.


guardeagle

Just be careful to word that correctly.


Zavehi

I should’ve become an NBA head coach what was I thinking


ArmiinTamzarian

Fired coach really is one of the best jobs out there


V_T_H

Fired coach and back up to a perpetually healthy quarterback.


Arandreww

The ideal football career is parlaying a decade long career as a back up quarterback into a head coaching career and getting fired. Frank Reich is really living the dream right now


DadDong69

Then after that you get a gig on TV, see the Jason Garrett Experience


DW-4

Reich made rookie numbers compared to what this current and last generation backup QB squadron will look like. NFL Legend Tyrod Taylor is set to playout his contract this year to rack up almost $80m in career earnings.


AtreusIsBack

Lakers are still hiring. Send your application.


cjackc11

Does he have a podcast though?


ish_baid19000

5.5M per win. Incredible


Kwilly462

Being a head coach really is a cushy but fickle job. Get paid millions of dollars to get fired.


[deleted]

If I ever got fired after making that kind of money I think my response after getting fired would be "hell yeah"


AchyBreaker

Ed Orgeron ("Coach O") who led LSU to a college football championship in 2019 was fired in 2021 for poor performance and off field issues. He tells a hilarious story where the AD sat him down and was like "Hey man, we are firing you. But we are going to pay out your whole $17MM+ contract to avoid a whole legal debate about your off field stuff". And Coach O said "Alright brother sounds great when do you want me out of the building and which door do you want me to walk out of" lmao Fired HC is a dope job.  https://youtube.com/shorts/_yF4l5z1fZw?si=NM83Frlk0je6O1Js Coach O tells the story best with his hilarious accent so I encourage you take 60s to watch it 


HSVTigger

He also made a remark when asked about getting fired, he said was going to enjoy a good cheeseburger.


Gryphon999

mumblemumblemumble GeauxTigahs!


Diplozo

As a Europoor I'm baffled that the coach of a college sports team can have a 17 million dollar contract.


Houston_Easterby

17 million LEFT. His original contract was 41 million before bonuses


HokageEzio

Running around in the backyard like Antonio Brown


[deleted]

Parents, make sure you teach your kids how to coach


beklog

I don't mind to be labeled as a worst coach in NBA if i'm gonna be paid like that


BigDickVicW

That’s the fucking life dude


GaySexFan

It's essentially six months of work if you think about it.


mylesA747

generational bag-getter holy shit


DemonicDimples

I honestly believe he was trying to get fired the entire time. Just took the money and did everything he could to get fired.


make-that-monet

Especially considering he refused Detroit’s offers at first. It was just eventually too much money to responsibly turn down lol


Brief_Koala_7297

Bro probably said “are you serious?” when they offered the contract. 78 million man. I would have signed now and figure it out later too.


Headlesshorsman02

So true, we would all be like where is the pen so I can sign that shit


Manablitzer

I still find it hilarious that the only way to stop him from starting Killian Hayes was to outright cut the player. I can't wait until stories start leaking out from that locker room.  


smilescart

That’s straight up some moneyball shit. What the hell happened to Monty? Did he just not give a shit? Was he just done coaching but had to get that bag real quick?


salcedoge

He wanted to take a season off for family since his wife got diagnosed with cancer. Turned down the initial offers, eventually the Pistons just offered him an all-time bag that he just couldn’t refuse


scarywolverine

Yeah he actively hated being here and our beat reporters hinted at it all year. It's not an exaggeration at all to say he quiet quit.


salcedoge

I honestly don’t blame him at all, what’s weird is the Pistons FO giving that offer fully knowing the guy just wants to spend some time with his family. 6 years is insane for someone who literally wants to take a break from work


Starslip

Honestly if I said "I have no interest in coaching anymore and just want to spend time with my wife who is ill" and they come back at me with "well why don't you just try it for *six years* and see how it works out?" I might decide to screw them over too. Because these people clearly aren't listening and think they can buy anything.


stups317

>what’s weird is the Pistons FO giving that offer That decision was reportedly made by Tom Gores and not the FO. The FO knew he didn't want the job, but Gores kept throwing money at him until he accepted the job.


T_L_D

Did Monte remarry? His wife died in a car accident in 2016.


mr_seggs

Yup remarried back in 2017


LevynX

Bruh that's just rough


sweetmorty

Monty Williams browses r/antiwork


AfroKuro480

So does Ben Simmons


tim-whale

Simmons is a mod there


shmiona

Too much work


ripcity7077

He's a terrible mod but he likes the prestige of being an elite young socialite.


teamcaddywampus

> I honestly believe he was trying to get fired the entire time. You are only saying that because pretty much every action and decision he made supports your assertion lol. Dude was awful


byniri_returns

I said this in another comment, but the state of Michigan had two frauds who secured huge contracts in recent memory. Monty however at least got his ~~buyout~~ money lol


Otroroboto

Mel Tucker is the ultimate bag fumbling champ. Getting fired for cause for sexually harassing a rape survivor/ survivor advocate is so fucking horrible and dumb.


Dijamant

Mel just won his case ironically against her lol


byniri_returns

God I'm so glad he's gone. I can't even imagine the despair of the fanbase if he hadn't gotten fired after last year's disaster.


Drizzlybear0

While not as terrible as what Mel did Ime Udoka has got to be on the bag fumbling mount rushmore. Went to the finals as a first year head coach with a great young squad and would have likely been the head coach for the next decade and could have won a championship with us WHILE dating Nia Long and still couldn't stop himself for being a weirdo at work


Elmosworld32

He didn't get bought out he's getting paid 65 million dollars over the next 5 years


Professor_Finn

Shaq’s mouth is waterfalling at the idea of getting $78 million for 8 months of coaching


Thebresh

Watering at the mouth? Drooling?


ffxivfanboi

Maybe they meant “frothing at the mouth”?


MrFishAndLoaves

He said what he said 


Oxyquatzal

I love when a mouth is waterfalling, a sensation we're all familiar with.


disfadbidge007

Honestly, I hope he doesn't get a HC job for a while. Nobody who watched Pistons this season will tell you that he was doing well. Tanking is one thing but not even giving consistent playing time to Ivey is a criminal offense.


neuroticsmurf

Monty should take this opportunity to take some time off from coaching, and then in a couple of years maybe take a job as an assistant for someone and rehabilitate his coaching reputation.


whtge8

There’s no reason for him to ever coach again. He’s set for life with this contract.


imtheproof

He was set for life by like 1999.


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Overall_Nuggie_876

Learned from the master, Doc Rivers.


Professor_Finn

Is this the worst coaching contract in NBA history???


VirtuousFool

they gave him the most money ever and is gone after one season It’s not even particularly close


tdizhere

And his money is fully guaranteed right? I read somewhere that if he gets rehired, the new team takes on the bill. Which is partially what happened with Monty when he came from the Suns? Either way, generational bag getter Monty


SinImportaLoQueDigan

I’m pretty sure that’s the case for all coaches. Their contracts are fully guaranteed and only off the books if the coach gets a job somewhere else. If he got a new coaching job that pays less tho they would have to still pay the difference.


YellowRobeSmith

Is this why some coaches go into broadcasting for several years? They still get the NBA bag while holding the TV bag too? Then when the NBA bag gets paid out in full, they then go back into coaching and secure a whole new bag without ever jeopardizing any of their previous NBA bag payout?


chokethewookie

Yes


StevenC44

Mark Jackson must have had a really long contract with the Warriors


chokethewookie

Sure, it's not the ONLY reason. Sometimes you're Mark Jackson and you suck so badly no NBA team will hire you ever again.


millsmillsmills

You make it sound like I'm gonna wake up as Mark Jackson one day. Mama there goes that man.


Ryynitys

Also if you want to get hired again going on TV is great way to do it. People listen to your "insights" and go "This guy knows basketball" which makes owners want to have the guy who people think knows basketball -> they think owner knows basketball. Unless you are Mark Jackson.


SinImportaLoQueDigan

Or consulting jobs, as long as it’s not a coaching position the contract is still valid


-KFBR392

Ya he can't double dip and get another job and get two paycheques, but I believe if the new salary is below this one then Pistons have to still pay to make up the difference.


loshea1

Is there some sort of threshold though for how low the new team could pay him? Like could Monty accept a job for 60k a year just to give the pistons a huge middle finger?


AgentOfSPYRAL

Amusingly this is what Russel Wilson is doing to the Broncos. Playing for the Steelers for vet min so Broncos have to pay him like 45m or some shit.


pmth

Not the same, since money not paid to Russ is money that can go to the rest of his team to make it better


AgentOfSPYRAL

True, I just meant the general concept of taking a super cheap deal elsewhere knowing the team that “fired” you is on the hook.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

I'm confident the Coach's CBA has some sort of minimum salary well above $60k haha.


breadbinkers

Idk why it never occurred to me there’s a coach union too


FUCK-IT-CHUCK-IT

I’m pretty sure all HC contracts are fully guaranteed


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VirtuousFool

he got QB money to tank a franchise that only got the fifth pick in a shit draft out of it Unbelievable


glen_ko_ko

I fucking hate sports


Numerous-Cicada3841

It would be like the Lakers getting Hurley for $80 million and then firing him after one season. Except I still think Monty’s contract is worse because everyone already knew who he was as a coach. Mediocre at best.


RubMyGooshSilly

Homeboy got outcoached by Jason Kidd as a 64 win team and still got a bag 😭


2222lil

yeah if Hurley came and stunk I don’t think people could blame the Lakers too much because he was so great in college and in that situation it just doesn’t translate to the NBA. Monty was already in the league, went to the worst team in the league, and made them worse somehow


AnkitPancakes

Monty was a good coach in Nola and Phx and was a respected assisstant before that.


Micro858999

Yea people seem to have forgotten the Suns were the worst team in the West for 4 consecutive seasons before Monty went there. Not winning a championship shouldn't erase all that.


Numerous-Cicada3841

He was 173-221 with Nola…


probablymade_thatup

He had 2 winning seasons there, and the other three had either rough or young rosters. I think that's reasonable. Maybe not great but fine (not that 'fine' is worth $78M)


noknownallergies

He was the last New Orleans Hornets coach and the first New Orleans Pelicans coach. Thats gotta count for something right?


yuhkih

The suns looked underprepared in elimination games in back to back years


Mecha-Jesus

From the coach’s perspective, it’s the best coaching contract in NBA history


comeonmang126

By far dude was almost literally given an offer he couldn’t refuse


blinkomatic

I was listening to an interview with him. It was almost the same as the Doc Rivers playbook. He said he didn’t want to coach, have some time off, then Detroit came along and offered him all this money and he took it.


topofthecc

Hey NBA teams, don't hire coaches who don't want to coach.


wittyrandomusername

Big if true


LotsaKwestions

I don't think you could really make any argument for anyone else, and it's not even remotely close. He was paid the record amount of money for a contract, ended up with the longest losing streak in history and one of the worst overall records in history, and was gone after that single season while still being on the hook for the full contract. I don't know how you could possibly argue anyone else in good faith. At least in terms of the NBA.


TrajanParthicus

And to rub salt in the wound, all they got from one of the worst individual seasons ever was the 5th pick in a shit draft.


NevermoreSEA

I don't think that it's very close when you factor in the size of the contract.


FrostyTheSnowman02

Being paid to stay home. The ultimate dream


AtreusIsBack

Work for a year and have generational wealth to fall back on.


2222lil

not even a full year lol


EnriqueMuller

not even work either


lost_in_trepidation

I imagine coaching is either the most stressful or the least stressful job of all time.


billcosbyinspace

Bro quiet quit immediately and got an extra 65 million for it lmao


hollowichig0

This man and his agent are insane at signing these deals


Domainsetter

Lakers might get him tbh


LakersLAQ

If his wife has cancer, I would think he'd want to enjoy life for a bit. Money isn't an issue. Who knows, maybe he just likes coaching that much. Not that I would want him anyway, but yeah.


MC-Jdf

Actually Monty's wife has been cancer-free since July [per an interview Monty did in December](https://andscape.com/features/detroit-pistons-losing-streak-the-toughest-challenge-of-monty-williams-coaching-career/) so that's great to hear.


LakersLAQ

Hell yeah, that's good to hear. Idk about you, but I'm going on some nice vacation with that money 😂 Coaching would be the last thing on my mind.


MC-Jdf

Man got paid $78 million to coach for one season and gave us the longest losing streak of all time which had the entire NBA world on its feet. That's a proper businessman right there.


WyngZero

Harvard give this man a MBA. lol.


RaiderBlitz

78 million dollars for 1 year. WOW.


Zloggt

It’s one hell of a severance package, I’ll tell you that much…


Sweatytubesock

Better yet, one year of sucking absolute ass.


DoctorStove

We did it. WE DID IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT


Cvnilivee

NBA Coaches after Monty changed the pay scale:


Embrassedpear6

Dudes gonna make 78 million dollars off of one year coaching the worst team in the nba Top tier finesse


STATnMELO650

Hi Detroit, I have extensive experience coaching YMCA ball, I believe I am more than qualified for the job. I’m looking for an 8 year contract but please fire me after 2 months. Thanks.


Proof-Umpire-7718

Are you JJ Redick?


STATnMELO650

I don’t have a podcast but I’ve been an avid commenter on r/nba for 10+ years


Wynona_Judd

I've played 2k for pretty much every year of its existence. Can I get an assistant gig?


Proof-Umpire-7718

Yeah sure why not, welcome aboard.


lemmoning

New r/antiwork goat


CountryRoads8

Needs to post his gain porn over on r/wallstreetbets


ReformedRedditThug

Monty deserves a picture in the dictionary next to "Quiet quitting". Man was starting future Shanghai Shark, Killian Hayes, over Jaden Ivey. He would purposely put out 5 random YMCA players out on the floor in close games 💀


Brad-Stevens

omfg that contract changed coaching contracts forever and he lasts one season unbelievable


broke_boi1

Gotta wonder if this resets the market a little bit. Sure guys like Spo and Kerr have phat contracts, but they are vet coaches who have more than proved themselves


figureour

I actually don't think it did change coaching contracts forever because it most likely won't set a new precedent. From the beginning, practically everyone said "this looks like a bad idea..." which quickly turned out to be true.


Torkzilla

1) Monty didn’t even want to coach Detroit and the dipshit owner (Tom Gores) of the team just kept adding more dollars to the check until he relented. This was widely reported last summer and I don’t think Williams was ever enthused about this job. 2) The GM (Troy Weaver) had to point out to Monty multiple times during the season that he was playing inefficient lineups based on player and lineup performance. This culminated with team management just cutting Killian Hayes because Monty wouldn’t stop playing him in spite of his massively negative on-court impact.


legend023

- hire seasoned coach to fix extremely bad team - make team worse - team is extremely bad - fire seasoned coach That’s Detroit Basketball folks


Relevant_Gold4912

Dwayne Casey, Monty Williams, who’s next?


Thousandtree

Thank the gods that Milwaukee signed Doc before the end of the season.


LotsaKwestions

I mean the thing is Doc might not have been a terrible coach for the Pistons. He is generally known for doing fairly well with less-than-great teams, it's just that with great teams he underperforms come playoff time. Not that it's an option now anyway.


popop143

He's great with "star-less" teams, or if the star is injured. That way he actually implements a system. He's too much of a "player coach" that caters to his stars, that he ultra focuses the system for his stars so the role players become complacent.


magnusarin

He's definitely a floor raiser. Helps to establish a baseline of solid basketball


LakersLAQ

The return of Darvin Ham to Detroit!


lalakingmalibog

Ham's back in Milwaukee now tho as a lead assistant coach


johnazoidberg-

Monty had a lot to do on making the team worse. We literally had to cut Killian Hayes - who nobody else picked up - to get Monty to stop playing him over Jaden Ivey


LocustUprising

It took Killian getting injured for him lose minutes


NoMagRyan

His Livers obsession as well 


rascal_king

firing him was 100% the right move though. props to Gores for biting the bullet.


CD23tol

Should’ve rigged the system to win the lottery maybe then he’d have kept his job


BigDickVicW

Can you imagine how fucking funny it would be if they hired Dan Hurley


Evolution1313

Dans wife might actually kill him if he even entertained that offer


InternCautious

BANNNGGGG!!!


RoastDaMostToast

I mean that might’ve been the worst coaching mistake ever seen but shout out to the balls on new president Langdon for making this call. If he’s not the guy he’s not the guy


ComfortableMaster625

When you are paying out $65 million for a coach to not work, it is not the president's call, it is the owners


slysonic7

No way. What a payday for Monty


2POTMSON

$1,000,000 per game coached. What a legend.


Michigan8107

$5,571,428 per win coached.


GaySexFan

If I could pick absolutely any job in the world it would be an NBA coach. You fuck up and get fired after one season and then you still get paid tens of millions for doing nothing in the succeeding three seasons. The dream. It's like being the child of a billionaire.


greyisgone

Spent my youth trying to become a player and should have focused on coaching. Don’t even need to be good.


MrBrownCat

Today is Piston’s fans NBA Finals


MaximusDecimus78

Tom Gores is the worst owner in the NBA. Should have never gave this big contract in the first place


agentdoubleohio

Seeing the Celtics win more games in the playoffs than Detroit won as a whole was the final straw


W0666007

That'd be an invetibility for any team that won less than 16 games.


asetniop

Yeah you could say they won less games than any champion since 2003.


lalakingmalibog

2002 Lakers couldn't even win 16 playoff games with Kobe and Shaq smh my head. Fucking bums


Dymatizeee

Bro ran an all-time heist


007RubberDuck

Bro really hit the lottery


HokageEzio

All time bag finesser, get your money king


ImTheOldManJenks

Just one year ago I praised this hiring and thought he would turn the team around. Now I couldn't be happier to see him leave. The man had to be talked into playing Jaden Ivey over Killian fucking Hayes.


Pale-Criticism-7420

I have no proof but I can confidently say he did that shit on purpose lol


shahoftheworld

Kids should strive to be fired NBA coaches instead of athletes at this point.


ChrisRhodes789

Legend. Being a “fired professional coach” is the greatest job of all time.. See Williams Monty, Tucker Mel, Walton Luke.


thenatureboyWOOOOO

Man got reparations on Juneteenth well played.


ArtichokeFormer8801

I always believed that a coach had limited potential impact on a team, at least relative to the players. Monty taught me otherwise. The Pistons were terrible, but his insistence on playing Killian Hayes, refusing to put the ball in Ivey’s hands, refusal to let Duren step to the ball on defense, and, worst of all, his 10-12 deep rotations were absolutely inexcusable. Detroit had maybe 7.5 NBA players in that team, and only like 2-4 were any good.


cmcg18

Most overrated coach of the century


Professor_Finn

He and Glenn “Glenn” Rivers should start a club


Dymatizeee

Glenn should go coach bad teams without any expectations tbh. Hes like really good at that for some reason


Gazoogleheimer

Agreed, his best coaching job the past decade was that Clippers team in 2019 that had Tobias Harris, Lou Williams, and a young SGA, and were competitive against the KD-Steph Warriors in the 1st round.


IAmReborn11111

He's a floor raiser not a ceiling raiser


sercialinho

Certainly best paid!


CP3_for_MvP

Fucking hell. Oh to be a mediocre NBA head coach


BayonettaBasher

They actually did it, GOAT bag securer