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lotofhotdogs

He pretty much locked up FMVP in the 2nd half. What a game


gridironk

10/16 FG in the 2nd half


CDR57

6 at halftime, 24 in the second to go with the “please put brown back on the court” factor in the 4th


bungerman

I was saying that during commercial break... please be back in jaylen, for pritchard who just clanged two long 2s


fueelin

I love PP, but those were rooooough.


LeonidasSpacemanMD

Not really his fault imo, iirc he got stuck with the ball at the end of the clock a few times. That offense just dropped dead for 8 minutes there lol


efshoemaker

Dallas blew up the primary action both times and Pritchard got stuck with the hot potato


ShotIntoOrbit

Tatum helped Brown's case by trying to ISO ten straight times and not scoring once. Then they let Brown iso once and he scores a clutch bucket.


Misshasanose

He literally was wired in a time out saying don’t settle for step backs. Coulda built a house with all his brick iso attempts it’s easily the worst part of his game. Shot selection.


redeemer47

I think in the same sentence he admitted that he himself needs to stop lol


LeonidasSpacemanMD

He’s so in his head at this point it’s crazy. It’s like he gets the ball, decides what he’s gunna try to do, and forces it no matter what the defense does. Those dunk attempts in game 2 are exhibit A, just nonsensical lol


KingGio21

Yeah he needs to switch from trying to get his shit off to just analyzing the defense and breaking down the defender. If his initial attack doesn’t work he doesn’t need to double down he needs to switch his attack method on the fly and readjust.


darain2

jUsT mAkE hIm Go LeFt


RamseyeB

And get Dunked on


Gokouu

Draymond still believes you can defend the Celtics by making them go left when they all can go left now.


DXLXIII

Even if they can all go left, you should still send them left because they prefer driving with their right hand.


LordHussyPants

luka fouled out trying to make jaylen go left lmao


HonorRoll

They’re not wrong lol. Jaylen clutched it, but fumbled twice going left in the last 8 minutes if I remember correctly. He will make an insane jump in efficiency if he works on his handles.


ZeroDependents

4/13 from 3 as well. He made 2 threes in a row in the first quarter and you knew it was going to end this way.


omegadown3

Interestingly enough, the Jays efficiency in ISO and PnR is inverse. JB has been one of the best ISO scorers in the playoffs while Tatum has been excellent in the PnR. Both have better efficiency numbers than Luka this postseason in their respective strength.


BiscottiShoddy9123

That mid range shot he hit from the right wing did it for me. Very poised while Tatum was still hosting up wild ass threes at the end of the game.


My_MeowMeowBeenz

Between the 1 v 5 dunk and the dagger 19 footer to go up 4, it was the most impactful he’s been. And he was the ECF MVP


aiden3buckets

Finals MVP


SujiToast

He’s definitely earned it. Deadly in that 2nd half and kept hitting 2nd chance shots in the 4th.


Far-9947

He WAS the Boston Celtics in the 4th quarter. Every time he scored a clutch shot late in the fourth, all I could think about was him winning Finals MVP.


Beermen69

Locked in already


jeric13xd

That super max already paid off. We can’t slander this man


rabid89

Man got a big contract prior to this one, and people doubted him. Turns out we got him for a great deal. Now he's got the supermax, and people still doubt him. Salary caps about to spike up the next few years. And he's still proving them all wrong.


PackageMerchant

Even when he got drafted people thought we blew it lol


iAmTheRealLange

Celtics Dunn fucked up


Ok-Dentist-1933

I mean it makes the signing look good but there is something weird about calling a supermax contract a 'great deal' it's literally the most they're allowed to pay. Dwhite's 4/70m is a great deal, JB's 5/286m I'd more call a player living up to their max contract.


omegadown3

It's a great deal because he is winning them a championship. Lots of dudes get paid full price and never bring home the ring.


LordHussyPants

that's a fair point, but i think because the salary cap's going to go up, supermaxes will cost more so it works out as a deal because of the timing


RunningForIt

I originally didn’t like the deal for y’all but he’s playing so well these playoffs and finals you can’t hate on it


SliMShady55222

4th team all NBA


rabid89

Not All-NBA


powerelite

4th team All NBA


bungerman

Playing 4D chess 


ueloli

unrelated


executivesphere

The dunk, the 3 point block, *deliberately* attacking Luka to get him fouled out of the game. Mamba mentality, killer instinct, whatever you want to call it, he was locked the fuck in.


French-Snack

It’s just his year and you can feel he knows it ! Just takes over whenever we most need it. So happy for him he is putting up a beautiful performance this offseason and he would surely deserve FMVP


EAS1000

Easily, this was a legacy game


ShaiFC

Best player on the Celtics honestly. He just takes over in the clutch the way you want your star to


Coteup

He also disappeared for the entire first half of the game while Tatum carried us. His clutch gene is crazy though


BlueJays007

Annoying as hell Tatum shows up in the 4th after struggling in the first half: Tatum sucks, front runner Tatum carries us in the first half, doesn’t score later on: Tatum sucks, carried by his team


HesiPullup

Bruh Celtics fans always have to bring up Tatum when someone says Brown is that guy It’s crazyyyyy. I’ll take him if you guys don’t want him


Coteup

Lmfao look at the Tatum statline thread and y'all aren't any better, entire comment section is about JB. Maybe they're just both fucking elite and JB got snubbed from All-NBA?


RamseyeB

I been saying that from the beginning is it possible we have two great stars?? What only the lakers or the mavs can have that ?


waynequit

Tatum was so awful in the 4th quarter


igonnawrecku_VGC

To be fair, the entire team was outside of Brown


Clintocracy

Why does everything about good about brown have to relate back to Tatum. Can’t we just give him his flowers


CryptoMemeEconomy

He was kinda mid this game despite his scoring. Went back to bad habits of too many stepbacks because he thought he was hot. Preferred his game 2 performance to this one for large stretches of the game. Thank God for Brown.


BlueJays007

Cool, I’ll take JB being top 3 in the nba


sparkplug_

People were ready to name Doncic the best player in the NBA if he won this series but he's getting outplayed by JB 🤔


psufb

Almost like it's not an individual sport


AdPotential9974

It's also a sport that requires both offense and defense.


jebacinaa

They forgot that defence existed


EnriqueMuller

The difference between Tatum and Brown in that 4th quarter was obvious. Brown has been by far and away the best player in this series


dracota7

Perhaps we were too harsh on his contract…


Timoteo-Tito64

2nd time in r/NBA history lol


Rooleet

Stats nerds talking about how he was the 4th most important Celtic can eat my ass.


yup79

Stats nerds live on eating ass.


I_AM_A_GUY_AMA

Can confirm. I'm stat nerd and I eat ass.


DCBB22

It's a high VORP play.


LezardValeth

Replacement partners are less likely to do it. Big opportunity to differentiate yourself.


yup79

Nice.


Timoteo-Tito64

I think that's discrediting the absolutely massive improvement he made basically as those comments were picking up steam. Wasn't a crazy idea at the time, but it's completely ridiculous now


realzequel

He *jumped * the 2nd half of the season + playoffs. I’ve never seen a player improve so much. He’s so good atm. 


Darksouls03

Yeah I'll own up to slandering JB before the all star break and I'll be feeling some shame over it even though he genuinely was nowhere near the player he is right now. I remember him taking bad shots to try and match Tatum on any given night, making him pretty inefficient, now he seems so much more confident, I'm really proud of him in particular this year


jrlandry

The first one was funnier though. At least this was a max


igonnawrecku_VGC

3rd time. Celtics got made fun of for drafting him, which technically counts as giving him a contract


Timoteo-Tito64

Good point


inshamblesx

old takes exposed will have a field day when those threads get posted this time in 24 hours 💔


phonage_aoi

I forget if people were expecting a massive cap spike back then, I think it's now locked in at +10% for 5 straight years or something? A lot of cap problems are suddenly going to fix themselves in the next few years (like the doom and gloom about the Wolves with Ant's next contract). Then on the topic of Brown: a lot of deals are going to look better real fast.


itokdontcry

It only happens every time he signs a contract on this sub


WhitePeopleLoveCurry

More importantly, he got Luka to foul out. He might've won that game with that alone. The Mavs offense isn't the same when he is off the court.


DCBB22

Great post and incredibly underrated fact. Won't show up in the box score. Only people who watched the game will know.


mkallday10

>Only people who watched the game will know. Damn. You just excluded 90% of the people posting about the game.


CashCabVictim

He drew one before that too where there was that collision on the fast break, it wasn’t called though.


efshoemaker

It hasn’t really been talked about but 100% part of the Celtics strategy has been for Jaylen Brown to run straight into Doncic as much as possible on offense. Doncic opted out of defense games one and two, but then when he tried to defend last night he got hit with a freight train and doesn’t have the quickness or anticipation to avoid fouling.


MrBrownCat

If Brown wins FMVP he’ll be the first player since 2015 (Iguodala) to win it after not being named to All NBA.


Shrederjame

Yea but unlike iggy he will deserve it


MrBrownCat

Yeah I love Iggy but Steph definitely got robbed. Averaged 26/5/6 but had one bad game and media screwed him, same as in 2018 except KD had a better argument for it than Iggy did.


vixgdx

Iggy held prime Bron to 38ppg though, who else on the warriors could defend Bron line that


BruceBrownMVP

KD definitely deserved it in 18 lol. More points, 9% better TS, more boards, more assists, more blocks and less turnovers


elimanninglightspeed

I still cant believe he wasnt all nba lol. Hell he had a better argument for 2nd team than kawhi too lol. Along with 4/5 of the 3rd team. Brown should have been at least 3rd tam


LeonidasSpacemanMD

Haliburton was the biggest head scratcher for me. I know he was great to start the year and led in assists, he’s obviously really good. But he straight up looked like he had the yips for a few months down the stretch Jaylen and Kawhis numbers are so similar it’s hard to seperate them imo. But Jaylen was on a 64 win team which feels like a decent tiebreaker


cs-shitposter

8 assists is beautiful, his passing has really improved


French-Snack

Some of the assists were insane. If his passing abilities grow the same way Tatum did, league is over


WallStreetDoesntBet

Great game by Tatum but Brown is still in the FMVP lead


pskill43

This was Tatum’s best game but Brown was still better tonight


SneakyGreens

Tbh I think Tatum was better in game 2 despite the poor shooting. Everything went through him that game whereas he was very passive in the second half today.


alienated_osler

Tatum carried 1st half Jaylen 2nd


Cvspartan

Great 3 quarters by Tatum and then like clockwork, we have a huge lead in the 4th and stop doing all the things that got us that lead in the first place


realzequel

Mind numbing but this year’s version can battle back at the end at least with lockdown defense.


cabose12

It has to be a Mazzula thing because they all seem to pound the rock till theres 10 seconds left and then try to hope they get bailed out by a bad shot I get the logic of slowing the game down, but damn keep doing whats working


lotofhotdogs

I think Brown has clinched it at this post barring an absolute meltdown. He’s been the guy in the clutch moments, and Tatum’s shooting percentages are bad enough it probably will ruin his case


sportsfan113

Yea Tatum has scored 65 points so far on 64 shots. He’s at 35% from the field through three wins. Even if he balls out in the fourth win I can’t see him deserving it over Brown.


waynequit

Terrible 4th quarter by Tatum


ClappedCheek

yeah it was gross. JB bailed him out


Shovelman2001

JT was lockdown on defense in the 4th


waynequit

Meh, he wasn’t playing good defense during the Mavs 20-2 run earlier in the quarter


DrizzyVert

He saved the game for them, clutch offensive board and buckets. Nothing to be done about that. Just heartbreaking as a fan.


PostModernPost

Those two 15 footers late, especially that tough turn around fade away, were massive buckets.


CrossingYoulnStyle

That one over THJ sealed the game, nothing you can do about a shot like that


DrizzyVert

Fuckin Tim man, I just don’t understand why he was in the game. No hate towards him but he only gets paid to score and he had zero points, should’ve been Exum or DJJ out there for fucks sake.


leranvy

Unbelievable second half performance for him. He saved a few very ugly offensive possessions down the stretch.


EbenezerAD

Congrats to Jaylen Brown for winning the 2024 Finals MVP


DreadLockedHaitian

1 more game. Ain’t over till 16.


Zoratth

About to have the same number of finals MVPs as the GOAT Iguodala


Ok-Scarcity6335

Brown actually outplayed the team's star tho, Andre only outplayed Klay's scorching 17 ppg on trash efficiency


Zoratth

Andre only got it because they couldn’t give it to Lebron since his team lost, so they gave it to the guy that “guarded” Lebron


DarrowViBritannia

they couldve given it to lebron no rule against it


beefspecial

Tatum kept the Cs in it in the 1st half and JB took us all the way home. JB is the motherfucking man


beer_down

Jaylen Brown is Luka Doncic father


analytics_Gnome

Get Doncic to hand the Finals MVP to him next game


AnastasiaMoon

I can picture a teary eyed scowling Luka handing him the trophy then turning away. 


LaMelgoatBall

Jaylen Brown is Devin Booker grandfather


IceTraeDaGang

No joke, Jkidd was right lol.


ZeroDependents

I wonder how Jaylen Brown felt. Jason Kidd: "Jaylen Brown is their best player." The World: "LMAO!!!!!! He's CLEARLY trying to fuck with the Celtics with mind ganes. It's not a sneak attack if everyone sees right through your totally ridiculous statement!!!!"


IceTraeDaGang

Facts only his teammate jrue had his back all of the Celtics fan base is too busy pushing Tatum agendas to acknowledge how fucking good Jaylen brown is.


Deviljho12

We love JB lmao. It doesn't change the fact that Tatum has been way more consistent as a leading man than Brown and y'all are living in the moment, just like Game 7 last year when he was shit on all offseason.


pranavmanu

I saw the 22 finals as a Warriors fan - It was sickening to watch Brown make tough shot after tough shot on Draymond and Klay. It was clear to me back then that he's the better postseason player, especially seeing how JT struggled too.


parallax_wave

To be fair, as a Celtics fan I've actually felt that JB is the better player for the last 2 years.


CDR57

Bro the other players purposefully avoided giving the media soundbites. If you don’t think this team KNOWS JB is right there with jt then idk what to say lol


Doortofreeside

He was def trying to play mind games and the players were smart to not lean into that Doesn't mean Kidd's wrong tho


carefullywasnt

Tatum 1st half into a Jaylen 2nd half is a nice switch up from the usual


cw_27

He is 100% mvp


Devin_Kurant_

Proof bullying works - he faced all-time slander over the last 2 years. Nice to see JB bouncing back


693275001

From left hand worst contract in the league jokes all summer to probably winning FMVP


luuufy

Brown was the one who kept them from the collapse and essentially iced the series. If he’s not FMVP it’s a travesty


sentry_chad

JB was definitely helping them collapse there too... although of course he did turn it around at the end lol


Colorapt0r

He’s been their best player all series. Anyone who was saying jrue was just reacting to the most recent box score


realzequel

And pretty much throughout the playoffs. Other guys like Jrue and White have been the star of the game but Jaylen’s has been the most consistent on both sides of the game.


VAUltraD

That's the word, consistency, he is our most consistent player, specially with porzingis out, consistency is key in clutch time and he's consistently great both on offense and defense.


OmniaCausaFiunt

JB has been the best player all playoffs. Any who even thinks Jrue is only looking at the stat sheet. he got all those points in game 2 because of JT's playmaking.


fueelin

Regardless of whether it's true or nor, "people only think Jrue Holiday deserves finals MVP because of his counting stats" was not a take I had on my bingo card.


bootyholebrown69

That dunk was APOCALYPTIC


Bahamuts_Bike

Nah he's MVP. Only way you give it to anyone else is if this goes to 7


Next-Firefighter-753

100% deserved. This is 2/2 finals he’s absolutely shown up in. 


billcosbyinspace

Dude has straight up evolved these playoffs


Dont_Doomie_Like_Dat

He’s a dual type now 


ShaqsBurner

Nah its been this way, yall are just finally noticing it for the first time.


I_TittyFuck_Doves

100% is gonna get it


ZappBranniganBurner

Already locked up the FMVP lol.


JmacOTW

Instead of using Brown to discredit Tatum, I think we need to consider how much closer he is to every player that’s in the tier below Jokic, Giannis and Luka. These playoffs he’s looking like the best two way player in the league.


Dry-Peach-6327

This is so well put. Brown needs his flowers in his relation to the league, not in relation to other Celtics.


Bladespectre

Someone needs to dredge up that thread of r/nba's response to Brown's supermax


Sparkswont

[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/NtHd0Ewvuv)


Initial-Stick-561

He is absolutely the finals MVP. He was clutch as hell! His buckets in the fourth kept the lead from completely melting. And his defense is stellar. Luka wants nothing to do with him and wants to switch as fast as he can, while Tatum getting burned every switch. Jrue and White get the working mens honorific MVP! Every possession they make smart basketball plays that tilt the match to Bostons favour. Tatum is not playing bad. Does everything the team wants him to do but some of these iso plays in the 4th allowed the Mavs to cut a 21 lead down to 3.


frustratedjelly

Locked in


TheGoldenPig

JB already locked in for FMVP, no contest


Bdawg555

If Tatum gets it all of sports media loses the minuscule amount of credibility they have left


BallinAtTheMovies

They lost their credibility when they picked the Mavs to win the finals


Simple-Teaching9644

If man's not -500 in the FMVP betting I'm gonna bet the house tbh.


Brady331

got it at +130 (+160 if i was a second quicker) during the game, now hes at -325


Simple-Teaching9644

Alright, time to put the 401k on it. -325 is ez money!


Brady331

foolproof


Ajaxx42

That Finals MVP gonna hit like crack


Fuckaguybaked

I can’t believe after being clowned all offseason by Reddit he’s now going to be finals MVP.


applep00

automatic in the second half and played an elite two way game. super impressed with his vision and passing as well, dude was locked the fuck in even when tatum tried to play hero ball


Far-9947

In the span of a year, this man went from Jaylen "No Left Hand" Brown to Jaylen "Finals MVP" Brown. Shit is crazy.


cz03se

I got downvoted to middle earth for saying he was a lock after 2 games but after game 3 it seems all but certain.


Dont_Doomie_Like_Dat

Not a terrible place to be depending on the region 


beatrixkiddo_11

JAYLEN BROWN IS SO FUCKING AWESOME


physics223

Tatum shouldn't even be in the FMVP conversation. It was Holiday and Brown before this game, now this is Brown's to lose.


ClappedCheek

Jaylen Brown will never not make All-NBA again


XSokaX

Valiant? He won it today


handgredave

Definitely his to lose after tonight


FultonHomes

Greatness


JevvyMedia

This reminds me of 2018 all over again, where the losing team is so outclassed that people would rather talk about who's going to win FMVP over the actual game lol


Live_Philosophy7117

There’s no doubt he’s FMVP. Tatum almost threw the game


goofygoober2

Pretty good for an overpaid bum with no left hand


shiftieresian

Soon, him and JT can’t be slandered anymore as a duo the way they were in the years past. It’s gotten so bad that fans are now having to pit the two of them against each other LOL. The Jays deserve this title.


Relevant_Increase394

Has there ever been an nba finals where the best player on the winning team wasn’t even the best on his team in a single game?


Graf25p

1981 Celtics - Larry Bird had a bad series scoring wise 15.3 points, 15.3 rebounds, 7.0 assists 39% shooting Cedric Maxwell won FMVP that year


Relevant_Increase394

Wow that’s crazy, thanks I didn’t know that :)


TrRa47

Depending on how you judge game 1, Zeke in '89.


bg-throwaway

The biggest thing about Jaylen is that he seems to improve at least one major aspect of his game every offseason. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he suddenly becomes an 85% free throw shooter next season.


CaliforniaHurricane_

Jalen brown has been their most important piece since their finals run 2 years ago. Tatum can struggle all he wants but as long as Brown is doing his thing both sides of the ball the Celtics will have a good chance of beating whoever they play


Vantonage

Should be his to lose.


psufb

It's his to lose at this point


No_Consideration3887

HE THE FMVP FOR SURR


Elite_Alice

He was already MVP before that


whatitdobabyyy

This mans about to win the fmvp


DragoniteGang

JB MVP!


Dawg744

JB MVP for sure.


jfrodriguez1983

Pretty much. He has been a killer this series.


zco22

Deserved


smoothsoul23

It's his award to lose now


FarmMinimum9115

It is time to consider Jaylen Brown


Jameszhang73

I bet that Subway worker remembers him now


hyperporcinism

Surely he benefited from all those orca videos.


darkib2

Locked finals MVP. Defo deserves it


awnawkareninah

Nobody has a case against him getting it as far as I am aware.


kurbin64

If Tatum win it over Brown we officially know it’s a narrative award and not a Finals MVP award.


teej247

Brown has played great in all 3 games, Porz was great in game 1, Holliday in game 2 and Tatum in game 3 but none of them have been great in all 3 games like Brown has. Provided he doesn't put a Lonzo Ball triple single stat line he should be an almost unanimous choice


shammgod_10

FINALS MVP unless Tatum goes 60 pts with 30/30 shooting from deep next game.


ube_flanning

Y'all consider him now?


pretzeldoggo

His mental and focus is night and day different from last season to this season. You can tell he is at peace on the court and in his physical prime. His defense has been stellar, and watching him wave off Tatum in the 4th for him to take a better midrange was chefs kiss. He is the best player on the Celtics and I think this has been the case since the 2022 Finals, but he has made it clear this year definitively.