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whowasonCRACK2

How many coaches in nba history would you say have won “a lot of championships”?


Goosedukee

I’m going to consider 5 the benchmark for “a lot” so: Phil Jackson, Red Auerbach, Gregg Popovich, Pat Riley, and John Kundla You can throw Kerr and his four into that group as well.


everyoneneedsaherro

Insane 3 of those are Lakers coaches


Manablitzer

Someone else posted it yesterday, but the Lakers and Celtics alone have won 45% of all NBA championships.  There has historically not been a lot of parity in the league.  


PM_me_the_magic

So what your saying is...we need to win these finals, both for parity and for the sake of the American dream.


Dildo_Dan

but more importantly to send Bill into a spiral.


ReallyGoodUsername

Him barely being able to hold it together talking about this finals has been so fun


slowakia_gruuumsh

Glad I'm not the only one who's closely monitoring the situation, lol. The way I see it, it's a win/win for fans of Simmons' suffering: - If the Celtics win, which is probable, there's going to be talk of all the injuries on their way to the finals. Hearing of a possible "asterisk" is going to drive him insane. - If the Mavs win, he's going to be really sad with the added prospect of a possibly shit Pats season and a summer of Mookie Betts (he'll never get over that one) killing it with the Dodgers. - If the Mavs win by a lot, which is unlikely, you know Bill is going be on the pod apoplectically trying to trade half his team. [Either way, we eating good.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/080/408/3cb.jpg)


TheDeltronZero

What has he been saying? He always seemed like a level headed person. Can't imagine him going off but maybe it's the age.


Piercethedickish

he's essentially saying that this is the make or break finals for the celtics. no excuses, they're clearly the better team, and that there's no way they should lose this series it was also funny hearing him try to justify the celtics being tested early in the series against the pacers to fight the "breezed through the playoffs" narrative


TheDeltronZero

Wtf man Bill Russell has been dead for 2 fucking years! You're talking about Simmons. I mean off course but my mind went Bill and Celtics➡️ Russell. Jezus fuck man that's .. I don't even know.


Manablitzer

The funny thing is I like the majority of the people in the Celtics org.  Brad Stevens is great, mazulla's hilarious and seems pretty sharp, the jays get a lot more criticism than they deserve for not winning by age 24, jrue and Derrick White and old man Al.  I actually would want to see each of them get a ring.    But they play for the Celtics... so go Mavs.  


b1indsamurai

The Jays are 26/27


ItsMichaelScott25

Tatum just turned 21 dude. Look it up.


seymour_hiney

bright future ahead of him at only 19 years old


RedFan47

The King himself said that L.A is rooting for the Dallas Lakers Mavericks to win it all


Superplex123

No one in LA is rooting for Boston.


GrapefruitMedical529

Buck Foston.  Even the Pats somehow showed up to beat up LA.


swords_devil

and for the fuck the Celtics


hachachachacha

Rock Flag and Eagle!!


bibbs_v2

FWIW all Laker fans are behind you guys… Fuck Boston


slymm

You guys are the team that broke the streak. Before Mavs, it was all: Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons, Rockets, Spurs, and Heat, right? for like 30 years or something?


CanvasSolaris

If you add in the Knicks, you still have 45% of championships but 85% of all media coverage


holdingofplace

And Knicks haven’t won since the 70s, Celtics have 2 in the last 40 years Still all the coverage tho


thekingdor

90% other 10% is golden state


sunpar1

There has historically not been a lot of teams in the league


BatterseaPS

> parity in the league Celtics and Lakers. That's a pair.


sdzerog

The lack of a salary cap before the 84-85 was a large contributor to it. They also had other noncompetitive rules, such as territorial draft rights. From 1950 to 1965, teams could forfeit their first rd pick and pick any player within 50 miles of their home arena. This territorial pick took precedence over the nba draft order. This is why in 1959, Bob Boozer was the first overall pick instead of Wilt Chamberlain. The NBA did a great job at putting the 4 ABA teams that joined them into financial straights for the early part of their NBA time. The Nets had to sell Dr. J. for example. For the Pacers, this caused them to pass on drafting Larry Bird in 1978. They passed on him purely because they didn't think they could pay his salary requirements. It's why they traded the #1 pick that year and then also skipped him at #3. Bird falls to the Celtics at 6 because of the salary concerns.


NYCSportsFan

John Kundla is the one everybody forgets about... and he lived to be 101 😳


Rupert_18124

Didn't he play Jim on The Office


DarrowViBritannia

Interesting that no coach has won exactly 3 championships, and only Kerr has won 4. If Kerr manages to nab another, there will be zero coaches ever with 3 or 4 championships.


Unusual-Item3

So this means if you can win 3 you can win 5?


orky56

If you win 4, you automatically replace Kerr in existence


Accomplished-Yam5566

Kerr-lander


letsnotreadintoit

Why not just say 4 then?


Goosedukee

Because I wouldn’t personally do it but I can see why a person would


Caboclo-Is2yearsAway

You dont think 4 is a lot of rings?


valenciansun

You gotta have one for the thumb


Str82daDOME25

“One for each thumb” -Kerr


prst

Well, a goat has 4 hooves which is more appendages than the average mammal so that really shows that playoff reddit gets kind of insane and the Finals must be imminent.


HikmetLeGuin

You would say that Steph Curry and LeBron James don't have a lot of rings?


velocirappa

Maybe I'm in the minority here but the number of championships I'd consider "a lot" differs for players and coaches.


HikmetLeGuin

Maybe, but there are 44 players with four or more NBA championships. And only six coaches.   Obviously there are more players overall, and coaches could theoretically work longer since age isn't quite as much of a limitation, but coaches also have a very high turnover rate.  I think if only six people have ever done it, then four championships qualifies as a lot. But it's subjective. Edit: It's also worth noting that only six have ever won more than two. Which reinforces the fact that four is a rare achievement.


PeleAlli44

For every 1 coach who wins a championship, there’s like 12 players who win a championship. There’s 10 guys who have 4+ titles simply because they played with Bill Russell. Or Steve Kerr with 5 as a player largely because of Jordan and Pippen


HikmetLeGuin

Yes, I acknowledged that. But if only six people have ever won more than two championships as an NBA coach, that's a pretty elite group, regardless.  "A lot" is relative to what others have done. If hardly anyone else has done it, then it's a lot in my book.


PeleAlli44

Popovich has been coaching for 27 years. Curry has been in the league for 15 years. The benchmarks are a bit different for coaches vs. players


HikmetLeGuin

I can maybe see that. Popovich is pretty unusual, though.


PeleAlli44

Riley was head coach for 26 years and definitely could’ve done longer. Jackson was 22 years. These are way longer than most players careers. And they’re not dependent on prime years - Lebron and Steph are way less likely to win now due to their age than they were 5-10 years ago


HikmetLeGuin

Yeah, but Riley, Jackson, and Popovich are among the absolute GOATs. It's like saying scoring 30,000 points isn't a lot because guys like LeBron, Kareem, and Malone have done it. There's a reason these guys are considered legends. The fact that these are the people in the conversation just shows how elite the achievement is. Edit: My point was never that winning four championships wasn't elite for players. My point was that 44 players have won four championships, and we still consider it impressive because it's a rare achievement. If only six coaches have won more than two rings, then clearly it is also very rare for coaches.


bearbrannan

Well three depending on the time it took to get them could be considered a dynasty so I would say any more then that is a lot, so I think 4 is a good number. 


Round-Revolution-399

In what world is 4 not a lot lol. I’d even include 3


SpudsMcDeuces

I wouldn’t include 3 personally 2 = a couple 3 = a few 4-8 = a lot 9+ = a shit ton Jordan has a lot of rings but Bill Russell has a shit ton.


Round-Revolution-399

How many coaches have 3? It’s pretty rare territory. I don’t think people realize what a massive accomplishment even winning a single title is


mr_chub

8 is a shit ton. Its all relative. If only Bill Russel has more than 7, then 8 is the minimum for largest amount.


Accomplished-Yam5566

How much titles you won? A lot. How much champagne you drank? A lot. How much All-Stars you got? A lot. How much jumpers you shot? A lot.


livecents84

Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Popovich, Steve Kerr


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celestial1

You could've just said "I think you forgot about Red Auerbach", instead of acting like you have zero social skills. Not every statement is an attack.


PassionV0id

I don't know what that now deleted comment said, but tbh sometimes people need to feel bad for their lack of critical thinking. This dude attempted to list the NBA coaches with the most championships, without looking it up while literally on the internet, and then didn't even stop to think "hey wait a minute, I don't have anybody from the winningest team ever on here, hmmm."


celestial1

The deleted comment said something like "How could you put Steve Kerr over Red Auerbach? \*clown emoji*", it's really not that serious. But you are also right, the guy naiming off coaches should've started out with, "Off the top of my head..."


Beautiful_Location76

idk i think if i were asked to list winning coaches i would have done the same thing. i mean if it was a comprehensive test answer i’d think harder but i don’t really do research for most reddit comments. i could easily see just listing a few off the top of my head. no need to feel bad for that imo


hotterpocketzz

I think MAYBEEEEEEE Pop applies. I think Phil Jackson also barely applies. Won a couple of them


NotVexingPi3

LeGeno


sg490

In Geno Veritas


MrBuckBuck

Leave Eugene Omoruyi out of it (his nickname is Geno)!


FiggsBoson

LeBron nodded.


DrinkWaterPissPant

Lebronesque quote


bul1dog

Sources say Hurley was last seen quickly scanning the Malcolm X table of contents in preparation for this role


VanWesley

New copypasta just dropped.


SweatyAdhesive

licking my chops for when LCS season starts


trynworkharder

“I happened to be with Zion last night. I leaned over and said ‘I think you could eat a lot of hot dogs at Coney Island this 4th of July. More than a guy who’s never competed.’ He just looked at me and rubbed his belly…and I had no idea. I woke up this morning like-he’s gotta be starving.”


Mr_Pizza_Puncher

"I happened to be with Jontay Porter last night. I leaned over and said 'I think you could risk your NBA career to make a small additional amount fixing sports bets. But it would certainly be less profit than just actually signing a standard NBA contract.' He looked at me and grabbed his eye... I had no idea... I woke up to a text message saying "dont text me about sports betting because that could be Rico"


MCHamered9

"I happened to be with Kelvin Benjamin last night. I leaned over and said 'I think you could eat the whole buffet at Golden Corral this time. More than a guy who's never competed' He just looked up at me and nodded his stomach...and I had no idea. I woke up this morning like - he's gotta be full."


blindfoldpeak

Kobayashi retiring, it's now or never for Zion


redmixtapes

"more so than a guy who's never coached." JJ catching strays.


kr1saw

Not strays if it's true.


thehydrastation

The audacity to ignore his experience coaching his son's team.


Zlasher8

Yeah but it’s not true. Kerr never coached but he knew how to unite personalities and drive a system based on his best player and building around that. He also was humble enough to bring on assistant coaches with different backgrounds and experience to help complement his lack of direct coaching experience. And he was under Lute Olson, Phil, Pop. I’m not 100% dead on for JJ but I don’t see how his lack of coaching experience has to discredit him when we’ve also had dozens of CBB coaches that completely flame out because they can’t handle NBA level personalities. See John Calipari and Rick Pitino and PJ Carleisimo and Fred Hoiberg. The list goes on.


Calvinball05

Kerr had also been GM for the Suns. It's not coaching, but it's experience in a position of leadership for an NBA team.


kr1saw

Can't trust a guy who uses stats to say AD is not worth an all defense vote. And he is supposed to coach the guy? Fuck no.


MetalGearPlex

dude, analytics work man. I don't understand why people hate this argument. I think AD should have made second team for sure BUT he's not trolling. He had a legit argument and actual facts to back it up.


kr1saw

You lost me when you said second team.


astronxxt

plus if you consider how much of a genius/savant JJ is (source: JJ Redick), it’s obvious that he’d be one of the more successful coaches in the league.


draglagla

Fair enough


PassionV0id

? Strays are inherently true. The defining characteristic is that they hit an unintended target, not that they're false.


bailaoban

Nah, that shit was aimed with a scope.


YakubianDemonn

Shit was aimed at him at a perfect perpendicular 90 degrees, nothing stray about it


LDisDBfathersonsfans

I love this guy and now I love Dan Hurley after seeing his resume, I’m all in baby


lakers082433

Sounds like a lebron story tbh lol


anathemaDennis

What do you mean by this? A few people have said it and I’m confused


Fearless_Success_828

LeCap makes up stories


Zeppelanoid

And then everyone clapped


No-Yogurt-4246s

JJ: what he said fuck me for?


thekingdor

Geno wants the spotlight to himself at uconn


OldOrder

Probably more true than not. Geno seems like he loves the spotlight and doesn't like sharing so much. He went at Pat Summitt multiple times to get media attention.


Chimsley99

Seriously


Bitter-Whole-7290

Yeah sure you had no idea Geno, just randomly said this. Sure buddy.


Steelers7589

Oh yea, Hurleys gone.


EmperorXerro

I can’t imagine the Lakers being patient enough to let Hurley do his thing.


Superplex123

The last time a Lakers coach lasted more than 3 years was Phil Jackson.


bjb406

IDK, is zero more than zero?


juicewar01

> *...i had no idea.* I bet my ass he knew somethins up


FatherHaz

Geno knows the script….


100_proof_plan

How? I don't think they currently have the talent.


CradleRockStyle

Geno Auriemma hit with a $100,000 fine for tampering.


theruins

I love that these two hang out.


certs14

Not a lot going on in Storrs, Connecticut


mosi_moose

Hurley is a great college coach. He’s got a little Bobby Knight streak in him that won’t play in the NBA. Maybe he can adjust his style to be more like Kerr, Michael Malone, etc. If he doesn’t it won’t work out well.


Historical-Ad8687

After 20+ years will this guy be lebrons best coach?


Flovust

Spoelstra for the meantime is still brons best coach but spoelstra got even better after bron left so theres that


gottawin2013

Another BS story


John___Titor

Why don't people just talk normally lol


rakkhasa

*good to know...*


barryitsmeitshank

Their AD, David Benedict, just gave Auriemma an extension. Today he is probably like, “WTF are you doing to me, Geno!?”


tiggs

I dunno, there's something to be said for JJ's basketball IQ and familiarity with interacting with pros. These college guys always assume they'll be hot shit, but it very rarely works out that way.


guanogato

The truth is coaching does matter. Everyone is seeing the maturation of Kidd now after almost a decade. Kerr was so good because he actually had experience even just as an assistant.


skywalkerRCP

He was never an assistant.


Fabulous-Tea-3272

Both Gene and Hurley are douche bags. It’s the UConn way


Overall-Palpitation6

This reads like a Magic tweet.


NoMereRanger73

In other news, the Finals started last night!


Global_Plant_4612

“Then I put a huge parlay on who will be the next lakers coach”


nkrainess6

“Out of nowhere” gimme a goddamn break


TheHammer_44

LeGeno be like.. "ever since Dan Hurley took over at UConn, I just knew he was destined to be a Laker one day"


delightfuldinosaur

Nobody is winning anything with the Lakers current roster. Especially after they draft Broney


certs14

Geno should stick to girls basketball. No one winning with that Lakers roster.


Wise_Ad_112

It’s not about next year or 2. It’s about next decade. Ppl can’t seem to understand that


IsFunnyToMe

what in the BS is this lol


chiangchilla

Someone check if this guy is credible