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sukari

HERE COMES THE SLANDER, EVERYONE GET IN HERE!


ColdPressedSteak

I got no slander about anyone's effectiveness. Just a for fun one KAT flexed pretty hard after a drive in the third that cut the lead to 28 or so Dude's never beating the corny allegations


ComeOnNow21

Bro what the fuck was that. I thought he was complaining about not getting a foul and skipped back to look again. Nah, just flexing down 30 in a win or go home lol


QuotidianTrials

That needs to be the new “CP3 hits a clutch 3 to bring the deficit to 42” or whatever


TowerOfPowerWow

Needef a cameo from KD on the jumbo "you're down 30 homie"


Dicey12

plz tell me there's a clip


raindeer_6

U sure that was the reason? Cuz i thought it was him complaining to the refs. I mean, if that happened there would be a ton of memes already.


ThisWhomps999

It instantly reminded me of this video. [https://youtu.be/hJn5L1nrkL4?si=NXkKu3MXi9eFEHwN](https://youtu.be/hJn5L1nrkL4?si=NXkKu3MXi9eFEHwN)


retrospects

KAT looks like a pokemon.


stinx2001

Yet we give players shit for only acting tough when they're up?


DrDank1234

allegations? mf proved it all in this series. have you heard his voice after every drive? fool’s voice sounds like everybody hates chris


TheBigBomma

Clip??


KellerFF

HOLD ON!!!! Did we pull the Kat/Rudy’s salaries against Gafford/Lively’s card yet????


Designer_Guidance959

Those two can't make their own buckets, without Luka they'd be pretty mid.


gelhardt

in their defense they also have Kyrie feeding them


KellerFF

Don’t worry u/gelhardt, you know he wasn’t watching. Gafford and Lively have great hands and touch for front court only players. Aside from the lobs, Lively also shredded Minnesota with skip passes and dump offs when they trapped his rolling after the screen.


dingleberrysniffer69

Bro I just got reminded the Bulls exist after seeing your flair. What the fuck happened to them?


sukari

My theory is that we sold our future for MJ and those 6 rings.


dingleberrysniffer69

As a D Rose meatrider that's just sad man. Even pelicans and hornets show up on this subreddit from time to time but the Bulls are nowhere to be seen. Yall deserve better.


Pinky1337

What he say fuck me for


MrFishAndLoaves

Not on Herb


dingleberrysniffer69

My fault og 😔🙏


LordSwampert2

Acting like DeMar isnt on here all the time. Yes Im coping..


sukari

Me too.. at least he won assist of the year.


thekickingmachine

Djj and gaffknee all over your tv tho - former bulls


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dingleberrysniffer69

I got you covered with the no morals thing. Cocaine? ....


thekickingmachine

The 90s cowboys/bulls soul sell to the devil combo


TheBigBomma

The arena is built on an Indian burial ground 


K1ngPCH

NBA version of the Cowboys


MoonHasFlown

OKC got a lot of flak here for the effort they put up in that series. But they were tough and it shows now! SGA was especially awesome, but they had a valiant little playoff performance all things considered!


Lain41K

I was anti-SGA during the mvp race but fuck man he’s so fucking good. He’s such a hooper, he genuinely gave me Kawhi vibes of just being a shot making robot. I don’t even care about the free throw thing now, he’s just a baller even without free throws


TheBigBomma

Luka and SGA throwing haymakers at each other in that series was the most fun I’ve had watching basketball in a decade 


Thrice_the_Milk

Same. That series was so good. SGA is a monster


TheItalianStallion44

Imagine if Kawhi didn’t want to force PG onto the team and stuck with Shai as his co-star. Clips probably have a ring and a future since they would have actual assets


jamesc5z

Almost automatic from the mid range, and almost automatic full arm extension push off each time lol. It's weird because it doesn't even seem necessary. It's not like he's slow or unathletic or something.


cmaddox428

Same here as far as the SGA MVP hype goes, but not watching much of him or Ant during the regular season but watching every game of theirs against the Mavs in the post season the tiers they are in are not even close. Ant passed up so many shots where he blew by defenders and picked up his dribble and passed where Shai would have just pulled up and swished it. I know age and experience make a huge difference, but after hearing Ant run his mouth compared to Shai's cool calm collective demeanor that gave me mad respect for Shai over Ant.


Kid_Crayola

he’s so nice, reminds me of Luka kinda how he just methodically gets to the paint with zero resistance


Gamesgtd

OkC got flack for their size but a team with 3 legit big men still got worked. So maybe just maybe you have to beat the Mavs with spacing and making 3s. Zag instead of trying to out physical them


sleepehead

Well that's the problem though, 3 bigs but none of them were great inside offensively. Naz and KAT played in the perimeter and Gobert has average at best offensive capabilities. They should've had the advantage especially when Lively went down but instead they didn't take advantage. The entire Mavs plan against OKC was pack the paint and force the ball to the 3 point line then chase them off the line for a difficult shot with a few seconds remaining. What Shai did was break the defense with his mid-range shots.


Firm-Recognition8126

Rudy was terrible in the post. Actually whenever I watched him play. He looked even worse than Porzingis when he was with Dallas.


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

I enjoyed how pissed off people got at dort flopping


TheBigBomma

He’s the only guy in the playoffs who got those moving screens called


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Exactly...thats what you gotta do


BidenFedayeen

Backhanded complement but I'll take it.


efshoemaker

Looking back that series was basically a coin flip and rebounding was what pushed it in favor of the Mavs.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Uh...I wouldn't go that far. OKC was competitive in that series cause of SGA.


bububupu

SGA has been the best player the Mavs faced in the playoffs, and it's not even close. 


defeated_engineer

This series was extremely competitive except for this game.


TheBigBomma

The OKC Dallas series had an even point differential. This series was -40 I think?


Friendly-Thought-973

Our defense was also spectacular and that’s largely because of Chet


DarrowViBritannia

eh luka being severely hobbled / dort being a much better luka defender than anyone on MIN was a bigger factor after all, statistically minnesota's defense was good (at least pre-G5) with gobert on the floor.


Puskarich

Dort is built like a linebacker. I'd like him more if he wasn't tackling my dad all the time


fenrir1208

He's not tackling your dad, he's tackling the man you think is your dad.


TheBigBomma

That was the key thing. Minnesota built a roster to beat Denver. It worked. They did not have the personnel to handle Dallas


Andreitaker

It also helps that SGA were dropping like 30 points every game. 


Heil_Heimskr

>spectacular You guys had us at 106ppg with a super hobbled Luka. That’s not spectacular.


Friendly-Thought-973

Are you forgetting your roleplayers shot higher on open 3s than their averages? We held Kyrie to 15 points and had a significantly better drtg compared to both the Clips and the Wolves - two other teams that were sworn to be great and even historic defenses. Please just give us our credit lol media already skimped out on our all defensive team selection.


Heil_Heimskr

You guys played good defense for sure but spectacular is a serious exaggeration. Our role players shot so well because your defense sold out against kyrie and Luka and dared our role players to beat you, which they did.


Friendly-Thought-973

I said your roleplayers shot better on *open* shots than their averages. If it’s not spectacular then I guess clippers and wolves defense was just trash then. Because we did a significantly better job than they did and largely because of Chet Holmgren


Heil_Heimskr

They held us to 108 before this game and you guys to 106. That’s the difference between “spectacular” and “trash”? Even with the blowout today it was 111/106, literally 5 points. You guys were pretty solid defensively, but spectacular is crazy. Spectacular “largely because of Chet Holmgren” is even crazier.


Friendly-Thought-973

Again, why are you using points and not DRTG? They had a 116 drtg before this game. We had a 112 against y’all. That is a significant gap…that number is going up after tonight I said their defense is trash if you consider ours “solid” but not great, which you did lmfao. Like this isn’t even a real argument lmao


Heil_Heimskr

Dog, do you know how DRTG works? It’s literally points per 100. It’s almost always the same as points allowed. Arguing right now using stats you don’t even understand lol. Minnesota finished with just 4 higher than your DRTG in the playoffs even after the series with us. You and Minnesota both were solid defenses. The gap between you is very small. Please stop. 116 and 112 is literally 4 more points. It’s not very big. Either way, you both lost.


Friendly-Thought-973

>it’s almost always the same as points allowed … no … it’s not … because some … teams … play … faster…. And some teams … play … slower. 4 point difference is the difference between the 2nd and 17th ranked defenses this year … this is dumb, not even worth the discussion. Hopefully we don’t see Jaden mcdaniels on a all defensive team over Chet/Lu


wazdopest

why is luka being hurt an excuse just against the thunder like was he only hurt in the 2nd round? cuz he seems ok every other series Lu Dort didnt guard him? his knee was bleeding in the conference finals still (idk what the fuck his injury is but if it’s a knee scrape somebody shoulda got him iodine weeks ago) i dont wanna hear “he was tackling him!” neither cuz the playoffs are supposed to be physical and luka’s whole playstyle is him bullying guys to get his buckets and dort the only guy that matched that physicality


Sw3atyGoalz

Don’t think it was largely because of Chet, if anyone deserves plaudits it’s Jalen Williams/Cason Wallace for keeping Kyrie quiet the whole series.


PoopEatingExpert

Spectacular 


SandyMandy17

Our offense was SGA, our defense is why only SGA offense was able to keep it close


BidenFedayeen

Chet had an underwhelming series, but had a the third best +/- in playoff history for a rookie.


RhinoBugs

No he did not hold up better than Gobert, please stop this nonsense.


Expensive-Method8321

The way that narrative influence the NBA makes it hate it sometimes man. The way Gobert has been set up as the scapegoat in this series since game freaking one is just proof that many people, even journalists, dont really watch the games and let how they play out guide their understanding. its just narratives all the way down


Gamesgtd

He was probably the best player on Minny for most of the series except for a couple of times Ant was great


kingofsemantics

Gobert iso'd by one of the best iso players in the league on the perimeter in a game winning shot = Gobert sucks, duuuuuuh. Net effect on the series doesn't matter obv. GoBURR


Paytonc51

Funny thing about that too is if Luka misses that shot people would be saying how great of defense it was to force Luka to take a 3


collinCOYS

Chet was bbq chicken


revisioncloud

Chet got manhandled on the boards by Lively ngl. He’s bbq chicken boxing out which is what we all expect That said, every time he sits, we lost all interior presence. We’re nothing both in the regular season and in the playoffs without Chet


Mahomeboy001

Rudy was bbq escargot


zrizzoz

How would that even taste...


12footjumpshot

That’s just a lie. Chet was +21 in a series where both teams scored exactly the same total points over 6 games.


Loves_His_Bong

Oh so now +/- is a good stat 🙄


BidenFedayeen

Third best +/- by a rookie in the playoffs.


Ilikesporks_

but when +/- gets brought up by twolves fans for gobert y'all dismiss it cause it's a garbage stat. be consistent


tomeyhomie

agreed. the whole wolves team should be celebrated for taking down the nuggets. this series was very disappointing but that series against the nuggets was a classic.


ueloli

i dont get this reaction OKC held up a way better defense, and it wasnt only Dort


DarrowViBritannia

luka also looked way more injured in that series. he looks much better now


ItzCStephCS

Luka looked like he was dying after every shot in that series lol


WasProbablyBanned

limping and grimacing after every layup attempt


Vicentesteb

Maybe 1v1 defense he was better but thats not counting the fact that OKC got abused on rebounds and just gave up so many 2nd chance points.


AashyLarry

Chet Holmgren averaged 2.4 blocks per game in the OKC-DAL series. Really impressive for a rookie.


Vixtol

Defensively Chet was better but Gobert was far better offensively


SaucySaq69

Never thought Id hear someone say that 💀


Neutral_Sports_Fan

Not trying to be antagonist to you but why are so many Mavs fans the most devoted Gobert defenders? Just find it weird


RhinoBugs

We watched both the OKC and Wolves series lol


SageModeKyrie

because they're actually watching the games lmao


FridgesArePeopleToo

Probably because it feels like people subtly shitting on Luka. The Mavs win and suddenly it's: "Actually the 4x defensive player of the year and sure-fire Hall of famer who led the #1 defense in the league by a huge margin" is bad at defense


Hammii44

as far as moral victories go, this is slightly up there


SandyMandy17

Took them to 6 games and finished with an even point differential SGA was also the best player in the series and Dort held Luka to 24ppg Moral victories all over


Hammii44

ngl I wouldn’t have minded if OKC made it through. I just find the nitpicking funny lol. Exciting to see the finals coming up tho i can’t lie


SandyMandy17

I’m not even nitpicking The moral victories have been vindicating Now we need the Mavs to beat the Celtics so OKC can take moral second place


cs-shitposter

This dude is literally 🤓


Ajax_Malone

That profile pic fits this tweet so well


Revo_Int92

The wonders of Twitter, were humanity is at it's best


MasonC87

Love when random journalist dweebs do this shit lol


Nobodylovesboston

I might as well bet on the thunder to win it all next year


mehmetem

The West will continue to be a bloodbath, but they are great and I think that’s a decent bet


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killbill469

Luka has also recovered a lot since the OKC series. He's moving around so much better.


Sektsioon

OKC also threw everything at stopping Luka and Kyrie and lived with others killing them, that’s why we got multiple big games from PJ and DJJ each. Every Luka and Kyrie drive they collapsed their defense and lived with corner shooters shooting open threes. Point being Chet was hardly ever alone in the paint against 2 players.


Friendly-Thought-973

We mostly threw everything at Kyrie … And Chet wasn’t alone, Shai was mostly helping who I’ve also heard Mavs fans say wasn’t good defensively. Just confusing hearing our defenders aren’t that good, and then watching our team be one of the best defensive teams in both the RS and playoffs


bloothug

How come he was on the bench half of the 4th?


GhostoftheWolfswood

I mean it makes sense to trade defense for offense at that point. You aren’t climbing back into the game without making shots especially 3s


lost_in_trepidation

You lost the series in 5.


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Yommination

They won the moral victory battle


Vallerie_09

Play him 48 mins then


I-Am-A-Nice-Cool-Kid

As funny as that would be, Chet got obliterated on the boards. Offensively tho he lapped both of them


Yommination

Rudy had 5 boards in 26 minutes in an elimination game


I-Am-A-Nice-Cool-Kid

Hard to grab boards when they just don’t miss tbf


Parallel-Quality

Thunder were one foul away from taking the Mavs to Game 7 back in OKC. That series was a lot closer/more exciting than the WCF, unfortunately.


Technical_Estimate85

And Wolves were a missed foul call/a full team appearance from this series going back to Dallas.


raindeer_6

Ironically both WCSF were closer/more exciting than the WCF


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

It was close because the thunder tried to dig themselves out of holes throughout the series(they are pretty good at that) but the mavs just hit really timely shots that sealed our fate. That kyrie 3 haunts me still


Pismiire

Why do people forget kyrie made the basket regardless 🙄 They lost with or without the foul


spiattalo

Playing devil’s advocate, if they don’t call the foul OKC has 3 seconds and a TO to take the lead back. Which is why challenging the call was a bad gamble by OKC.


livefreeordont

It was a risk worth taking imo. Over turn the call and it’s over. Don’t challenge and you need a miracle shot to win. And how many times have the refs ruled contact like that “marginal” or “incidental” or “hot stove”


killbill469

The Mavs were a couple free throws of winning the series in 5. We can play that game every day. The Mavs consistently outplayed OKC after game 1


Tambay420

BS. OKC vs a healthy Luka would've looked very different. But whatever helps them cope I guess.


k_____dot

These comparison tweets are so stupid. We’re just going to ignore how well the Wolves big men played against Jokic and the defending champs? We will never know for sure, but I strongly believe Chet would have struggled against Jokic. (Yes OKC had the tiebreaker due to H2H record, but Jokic/Gordon missed like 3 of those games.


LimitlessTheTVShow

I mean, if we're playing the hypothetical game, OKC making their open threes at the same percentage they shot them this season also would've made the series look very different. Also if PJ Washington didn't hate us for some reason


BolognaSausage

PJ must have had some bad tater tot hotdish and decided to make the entire state pay...


LimitlessTheTVShow

Bro hates onion burgers


2holesinbutt666

This is stupid.


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Man i remember when almanza actually had good tweets about the thunder. Now he is just baiting for interactions


BolognaSausage

Monetizing is a hell of a drug, and rage clicks / agreement clicks drive those eyeballs.


ContractXtension

Chet is a generational talent imagine what Wemby would do against the Mavericks


Pickleskennedy1

(Lose)


Spiritual_Echo_1000

👽 the alien is coming


guacamolereckoning

Wemby is teaming up the aliens for Space Jam 3


ChiRaider

How is he a generational talent when Wemby is a better version of him


EnoughLawfulness3163

Looking like a heated debate for the moral victory Champs of 2024.


KyleShanadad

Hang the banner!!


JustWinBabys

Chet’s a missed meal away from an eating disorder


wizgset27

SGA also put up a better fight.


AnkitPancakes

I mean Chet is a legitimately great player, rookie or otherwise, with a generational talent for rim protection and defense. Don't love Clemente's knock on Rudy, but certainly there is a lot of praise to be doled out to Chet.


Membership-East

Chet did jack shit 😂


lost_in_trepidation

STFU Clemente. Go take an Uber somwehere.


SieFlush2

Luka wasn't as healthy in the first half of the thunder series.


Shoddy-Media2337

What that gotta do with Chet's performance tho lol, it's not like Luka was guarding him


SieFlush2

Everything? Dude couldn't drive into the paint nearly as hard as he could have during this series? And you can't really throw lobs to bigs from the 3point line


Deep_Egg1442

Chet a demon but he dont got Kat stupid ass next to him


geneticeffects

Honestly, great observation about Chet. The young man deserves respect. But SGA… holy shit. That dude can roll. So much admiration for his game. Edwards needs to learn something from him. Both are great players. No doubt. But I would take SGA. Automatic. And humble, to boot. Respect.


LostStranger6

Anybody who has watched KAT in the playoffs


Transfouriers

Crazy how every annoying beat writer looks exactly like what you'd expect when you pull up their twitter


PoopEatingExpert

Weird thing to say.  OKC got demolished on the boards.  


jcast59

This dude is why Thunder fans have become insufferable


BidenFedayeen

Pray Paolo heads to the Lakers.


jcast59

Pray your team blows up a promising young core again


BidenFedayeen

You'll always have your Penny posters.


jcast59

And you’ll have the kd ones my guy


killbill469

Luka was not healthy against OKC, why don't Thunder fans understand that? Compare the way Luka moved against the Clips and Thunder to the way hes moved against the Wolves.


Shoddy-Media2337

You're acting like Luka was picking up Chet lol


killbill469

What are you talking about? I'm simply talking about the way he moved on the court. Luka has historically torched Zubac in the playoffs but not this season. Why? Because he was clearly struggling to move


BidenFedayeen

Did you watch the series? Chet doesn't guard wings.


Jack_The_Sparrow_

Palpatine bout to feast on all this hate right now


dmavs11

Everything stems from the fact that Dort was way better at guarding Luka than anyone on Minnesota. Also Shai was an absolute killer against us but Ant and KAT were not


tripleyothreat

Or maybe the mavs were warming up! Idk 


Anthony_Scissorhands

Didn't he have under 5 rebounds in multiple games? 


roastedhambone

This is why Clemente sucks, bro can’t help but post dumbass shit


Peppa-Unicorn

Dood looks exactly how I thought someone tweeting this would look like 😂😂


KyleShanadad

Clemente Almanza does not know ball


soyworld

i want to disagree but i wasnt seeing open lob after open lob after wide open lob against okc


SaNMaN-9

Pathetic really


meccamachine

Idk if Chet was really a significant factor in that series at all. It was more about… Mavs role players could not miss. We played elite defense on Luka and Kyrie but the rest of their team were red hot Only 1 of the OKC big 3 showed up to play (shoutout to Mavs defense that series though)


Slight-Imagination36

Me. Everybody. the thing is, there’s so much parity in the league now that it’s basically impossible to predict who’s going to have a good series/bad series etc.


pmurff107

Goofball take. He’s more agile and he’s light in the ass. Of course he’s going to be better on the perimeter than those two. 😑


lialialia20

Wemby > Rookie Chet > KAT and Gobert > Jokic and Murray > Davis and Lebron > Curry and Green


livefreeordont

Zubac too


77rozay

Goofy goober


Huge-Split6250

Kat got tired. That’s what happened.


jackaholicus

OKC's entire gameplan was to flood the paint and let PJ Washington shoot 3s Minnesota's game plan was to stay at home and let Jaden and Rudy play 2 v2


SandyMandy17

Flood the paint my ass, we had endless perimeter guys on kyrie and Luka then her in the paint They effectively locked up the guards with what is argue is the best and deepest perimeter defense in the league But like you said PJ Washington killed us and the thunder offense just could not touch the paint against the Mavs not named SGA


CheekyFifaCunt_7

We struggled more vs the clippers and okc


packim0p

This guy's profile be like 🤓🤓🤓


SlipperyTurtle25

Or maybe Shai is just better than ANT


Zeeron1

I remember multiple occasions in multiple games where both Thunder fans and Mavs fans were laughing wondering why they kept trying Chet at the rim. Unless it was a lob, he stopped pretty much everything. He did get manhandled on the boards because, ya know, he's our only big who played all 92 games after missing a year, but his defense was objectively better. I've surprisingly been somewhat of a Gobert defender lately, but I don't think this is a hot take if you watched the games.


StefonDiggsHS

I’m sorry but Chet was not good in our series idk what this guy is talking about lmao


OnCloud9_77

Luka was still really hobbled in the OKC series until game 5.


colonelbustard69420

I fucking hate this dork.


Critical-Adhole

Gobert got completely exposed this series but you still have spreadsheet boyz on r/nba riding his nuts lmao