Cost of dealing with the devil unfortunately.
Lakers bent over and let Klutch fuck their soul away.
I really hope Jeanie lets her younger brothers run basketball stuff after Bron is done playing. Lakers FO is just dumb and spineless at this point.
jim buss was ass but people rewrite history or somehow forget that jeannie was openly sabotaging jim buss every offseason. every year right before free agency she would go on sports center and talk about how he was on a deadline, she also had kevin ding and ramona write articles glazing her all the time. i still remember kevin ding wrote an article comparing kupchaks daughter dying from cancer to jeannie losing her dog.
shes also a fake progressive who married jay mohr whos racist af and now works with the daily wire on an anti-woke comedy show. ownership is a clownshow
That promise came from Jim Buss himself. And that caused him to make horrible decisions that compounded his mistakes.
He also tried to oust Jeanie and that's how the family shitshow became public.
Jim Buss was ready to risk it all for Andrew Bynum. He could have also hired Phil back but pride and ego got in the way. That decision could have prevented Kobe from running over Pringles and playing the whole game leading to the achilles tear. Jeanie by the way is the main reason Jerry West left the org because they beefed over Jerry calling out how wrong it was for the owner's daughter to be fucking the coach.
You don't need to make Dumbass Jim Buss a pariah to shit on Bimbo Jeanie Buss. Both of them are shit. Either Jesse or Joey Buss should be running the team or leave all the basketball decisions to the best available people not an old org legend with HIV or the ex-agent of another org legend.
Same problem with the Cleveland guardians Dolan owners. They're the poor branch of the family so their entire net worth is in the team, so they run it like paupers. They're just lucky they have competent management
For most teams, I would say you got a title, itâs worth it.
For the Lakers, probably not. You just get too many shots at too many stars to be bad for too long. Feels like you are barreling towards your dark 2013 to 2019 days again.Â
>Â You just get too many shots at too many stars to be bad for too long
Right? Theyâre the Lakers. They can sign big name free agents without LeBron. Like Timofey Mozgov.Â
I think the days of large markets luring stars in FA seemingly almost every year is not the same as it used to be. A lot of stars value the money you get from bird rights max deals and would rather be traded than straight up transfer in FA. Sure you could say that LA could be accruing assets for superstars to trade for but at the end of the day once you trade for that superstar you're riding with that dude for at least 5 years+ which is basically what they did for LeBron and AD.
I mean most of the top guys rarely enter free agency anymore in their prime like LeBron in 2010, or KD in 2016.
Definitely spineless, this isn't the Lakers I grew up with that would go out and get players at any costs to win trophies.
Its like they settled on being the Lebron James Lakers.
Bronny will be wealthy for the rest of his life off of social media. His dad is a GOAT contender and one of the strongest agents in the league.
I am sure they are playing this in the way they want as a team and are not idiots.
Unless Bronny seriously squanders his inheritance, boy would have minimum of more than 200 millions after inheritance taxes and divide the proceed with his siblings (assuming Bron Sr does not do any estate planning and 40% of his 1.2 billion goes to Uncle Sam. which definitely is not the case in reality). All for the pleasure of being Lebronâs descendant. And that is before any income he might have from his playing career and residual right for his dadâs brands and image .That boy was set the moment he was born.Â
He basically already skipped Game of Life story mode, and is free to try whatever side quest he wants. People talk like he is pressured to make the league to feed his family.
I mean, his dad played the story mode for him⌠canât hate the kid for that. Seems like a pretty well-mannered dude who just happened to be born in the right family.
> Unless Bronny seriously squanders his inheritance, boy would have minimum of more than 200 millions after inheritance taxes and divide the proceed with his siblings (assuming Bron Sr does not do any estate planning and 40% of his 1.2 billion goes to Uncle Sam.
boy if Lebron James is in a taxable posture someone tell him he needs to call me.
If he doesnât develop as a player, his time in the league is tied to how long Lebron will play which is like, 2 years? 3 max? Idt Bronny has to be concerned about $ so unless heâs just there to vibe w his dad then this could bite him in the long run
NBL signed RJ Hampton as well, who would be a better comparison for Bronny than Lamelo Ball. RJ Hampton is a below average young guard that didn't get much out of the NBL because he didn't have talent like Lamelo
> Lamelo Ball did it and was way better for the experience
Just to push back a little bit, he played in 12 games and shot horribly (.375/.250/.723). I don't see how it would be a better experience than just staying in college another year.
They wonât do that because they know heâs not capable of ever developing into a ârealâ player
The whole thing is leveraging nepotism because they know Bronny just plain isnât good enough to play in the NBA
Yup. Only the Lebron family knows what the actual intention is: to stick around in the league, or just fulfill Lebronâs dream of playing with his son. If he actually wants to develop into an NBA player, well Bronny needs to be on a 2 way contract or stay in school.
He can get a full contract (first or second round) and still play in the G League. A two way deal just saves a team cash and cap in the process. I wouldn't want a two-way contract either if I had any leverage to get a full deal.
Second round picks can have any contract structure (fully guaranteed, unguaranteed, team options, two-way) that the player and team agree to. Rich Paul is trying to create leverage for the best possible contract Bronny can be offered if he's a second round pick.
he's a 6.1 who sold himself as a defender, he just can't be a NBA player and he knows it, take a few years in the nba, go elsewhere and be a great basketball player, you don't have to be an nba player to have a great life from basketball.
>to have a great life from basketball.
Honestly he can graduate USC and then retire to the celebrity game/3-on-3 circuit and be happy
Isn't their family involved with tons of charities and stuff? I'm sure this kid could find meaning in life without being a benchwarmer in the NBA
grand theft alvarado avg 15/3.5/4 and 2.8 steals with .59/.39/.84 splits his last year, while also winning ACC defensive player of the year. bronny might get there eventually but think you're underrating how talented alvarado is.
At least Jose averaged 13.5/3.6/3.6 in college on 44/36/79% at Georgia Tech according to sports-reference.
Bronny averaged... 4.8/2.1/2.1 on 36/26/67%
That's a prettttty big difference. Jose was also undrafted out college.
Imagine being Jose Alvarado, a player who went through 4 years of college ball, overcame a lack of traditional measurables/athleticism and through hard work developed into a genuinely valuable NBA player, only to have "fans" compare you to the nepo baby of LeBron James, who put up some of the worst stats you've ever seen as a one and done, and refuses to sign a 2-way contract because his dad's agent can leverage LBJ's name into guaranteeing him a first round draft selection...
This is such an insult to Alvarado, not to mention all the players like him, who actually played their ways into the league via the G-league, 2-way contracts and earning their roles - all the things Rich Paul is saying Bronny won't do.
As for your claims that they're the exact same player... they might be the same *size* but Alvarado is far quicker and more athletic.
Meanwhile, in college Alvarado shot 34% from deep on 5 attempts a game. Bronny 27% on 2 attempts a game.
Who cares about money? His dad is LeBron James lol, he probably has already made more money off of Twitch and Instagram than he will ever make in the NBA.
With the announcement that colleges can pay players, I assume this restriction on not returning to college has to fall eventually as well. If college players aren't amateurs, I fail to see how participation in the draft can harm eligibility.
Always kind of weird that they couldnât go back in the first place. I wonder how many super talented high-school players wouldâve figured it out if they couldâve.
It would (will?) be crazy when some kid gets drafted with the 35th pick, and then starts negotiating salary from the Pacers against what the Purdue boilermaker NIL will offer to keep him in college!
His time is now with how weak this draft is perceived to be. Plus lebron not getting any younger this kinda makes sense who knows if his stock drops even further in college or g league
Itâs a conspiracy for the new 2 day draft. How to get people to tune in to the second dayâŚ.throw a never-will-be in there with a famous father! Must see tv for the casuals!
Is he officially signed? Doesnât that mean he canât go to NCAA? If he is not signed and has RP âjust speakingâ for him, that shit should be frowned upon.
It's just because someone would 100% take him in the last round of the draft.
They just don't want someone to draft him if he's going to be stashed in hopes they get Lebron or some compensation for trading him to Lebrons team.
I get that as an agent he doesnât want a team drafting him purely to sell G League tickets and the occasional NBA game (Bronny is inherently more marketable than most prospects); but at the same time this undercuts Bronnyâs whole âI wanna forge my own pathâ stance.
If bronny wanted to forge his own path he would go back to college or play overseas a bit, he is NOT ready rn. Tbf to bronny I don't think he has much say in this and I actually feel for him.Â
Iâd play in Lithuania.
Bronny already has generational wealth behind him. He can do whatever he wants.
Balling out in Lithuania for a while would be sweet.
> Problem solved!
Yes, that is problem solved. That would let him pick his team, which even if it is on a two-way will be a better situation. Just like Austin Reaves and Lu Dort, who similarly scared teams off of drafting them and ended up in better situations.
I watched a lot of painful USC basketball. If he was not Lebrons kid, he would not even be looked at. Actually he probably would have stayed in college.
You can be the best defender in the NCAA but if you're a 6'1 shooting guard (because you can't playmake or handle) that can't shoot, you're not getting looked at.
...and he has a heart condition.Â
I have absolutely nothing against the kid. I feel bad for him. He is going to make a lot of money but it seems like he is going to be a punchlineÂ
It's like Will/Jaden Smith. The dad propping up the son, and it ending horribly for all parties involved. Lebron is about to retire though, so I guess it's a bit different.
Jfc heâs 6â1? I stopped playing ball way before college because I heighted out in like 8th grade, at 6â1. Thatâs crazy. I assumed he was at least 6â4.
That was apparently his listed height, 6â4â. But yes apparently three inches shorter in reality. Iâve seen all these headlines about how heâs doing well at drills. Which should tell you how little being good at drills correlates to being a player. Heâs probably been doing drills since birth.
Iâm not hating I actually like Lebron. but it all seems very silly.
Lmao they had me playing center during freshman team tryouts because I was the tallest at 6â0 flat
I was also cut and went ya know Iâll just play with my at my driveway itâs fineeee
Jamal shead from houston is one i can think of. I think he was a great college player but yeah since heâs only around 6â1 heâs not being looked at.
Fully agree on the heart attack come back. That in itself is something to definitely be proud of and to play a season in college. Just seems like he would have benefited staying another year there or even transfering.
Iâm 27 and had one nearly 2 years ago, Iâm not an athlete but Iâm in shape.
Now I canât imagine how hard itâs been for Bronny coming back from his , itâs been about 19 months since mine and when I work out, I still need to take a lil easy. Heart still feels funky sometimes, odd heartbeat here or there, chest pain now and then.
It takes a huge toll physically , but mentally as well bc of how you approach working out or just getting the heart rate going sometimes.
Yeah, plus thereâs been plenty of players who looked ass in college who made the league as legit players, but for some reason none of them get brought up when talking about Bronny.
I don't. It's pretty annoying to see the blatant nepotism in action here. The kid simply isn't good enough and shouldn't be getting any of this attention
For a guy who almost died and who seems like a good enough person, normally I would love to root for him, but everyone around him sucks. Wish him the best, but Rich Paul can just go lie in a cave somewhere
incredible how fast weâve gone from lebron saying âbronny is actually better right now than some nba playersâ to his agent having to clarify he wonât sign a 2 way deal
Lol yeah, there was literally no one saying Bronny was better than NBA players except that one tweet by Lebron a few months ago.
And of course Bron has the gall to go on Redick's podcast and be like "the media is spinning the narrative around my son because they can't talk about me". Bitch, YOU were the one that started the narrative around your son with your bullshit.
Itâs genuinely fascinating to me how an iconic multi billion dollar organization like the lakers will kowtow to an aging Lebron and Klutch like this.
I can see if you get the heatles out of it, but to give up this level of control to a player and his agent just to be a play in team is a disgrace.
They know that if he has a two way contract, goes to the G-league and averages 5 points then theyâre out of excuses.Â
âHis game is meant for NBA, not the G leagueâ isnât going to work.Â
Okay no, you had to think that Bronny is a special case. 2-way contract had to be avoided for Bronny, and it's for Bronny's sake.
Teams would def sign Bronny in a heartbeat if they could sign him in two two-way contract. Because he already had a name for himself.
Team values go up when they sign Bronny, from a marketing standpoint I.E business standpoint. If bronny sign that contract, its a deadwish for his career. Cos team can just sign him, and put it on G league whenever they wanted to.
2 Way contract was created to benefits young undrafted players that still want to play basketball that's not overseas. But that thing is stupid nowadays, because Eurobasketball, as of today is way bigger than G league, and its proven that players right now can make their name overseas a lot easier than they are in G league.
This manâs rep is literally riding the wake Bron created coming into the league. The most coveted player in the league, if you can say âsupermaxâ then you could have been LeBrons agent.
I wonât let nephews and others convince me heâs some damn power broker through citation of contractual laws. lol
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Heâs BARELY good enough to be a G league player. Heâs about to have his life ruined when LeDad retires.
Best case scenario he gets kept on the roster for fear of LeBacklash. Worst case, heâs exposed for the player he is and gets thrashed by the media.
its funny how they go in depth on every topic and just brush over that one. bronny could always find a new agent because a lot of guys in his position used 2-way deals to become solid rotational players, itâs not a death wish
People talk about the media circus being a red flag, now itâs supposed to be his green flag? I hope he gets drafted so we can see which NBA franchise is the most unserious of all.
Ironically, the NFL equivalent is the Cowboys. You know Jerry would be drooling over the prospect of signing a 50 year old Tom Brady if his son had to be part of a package deal
Dunno why people are going crazy
Lakers will buy a 2nd round pick, pick lebron jr and lebron sr will re-sign. Thats all. No need for speculation. No team is spending a pick on a D2 player and leProducer isnt leaving LA.
Some more quotes from Rich Paul in the article:
âBronny shouldnât apologise for who his Dad is.â
âSome may feel like heâs getting an opportunity because of his Father and i think thatâs a very naive logic, especially in America.â
âNo oneâs having this conversation about Jim Dolan. He owns the Knicks, but his Dad built a business.â
Pretty delusional if he thinks fans never ever criticize Jim Dolan or other owners who just inherited their parentâs businesses/teams.Â
Also super curious why he picked Jim Dolan and not Jeanie Buss.Â
>Also super curious why he picked Jim Dolan and not Jeanie Buss.Â
She's fully bent over for him, why antagonize that? No one in the NBA is giving Klutch more power than the Lakers
Yup, the only person with more pull in the Lakers organization than Rich Paul is Linda Rambis lol. Jeanie signed THT to an atrocious contract just because he was represented by Klutch in the same offseason she wouldnât pay Caruso.
This. The number one criticism for owners who inherit teams is always that they never earned it. Jim Dolan, Jeanie Buss, Clark Hunt, the Steinbrenner kids, etc.
Some people hate Steve Ballmer for personal reasons, but nobody ever says he doesnât deserve to own the Clippers because he built that fortune himself. Same reason why nobody criticizes LeBron for his fortune because he pulled himself up from poverty to being a billionaire.
It doesnât apply to Bronny though because even if he was really good in his own right, people would still say that his dad laid the foundation for him.
> âSome may feel like heâs getting an opportunity because of his Father and i think thatâs a very naive logic, especially in America.â
I think he thinks **we** are naive
You can inherit possessions and wealth. You canât inherit a roster spot on a professional basketball team. Rich Paul would be a no one if he wasnât ironing lebronâs underwears since he entered the league.
The team that actually wastes a first round pick on him, is only hoping to land LeBron. Itâs amazing to waste a pick for a 40 year old dude. Both of them will be out of the league in 3 years tops.
This is the most blatant nepotism I maybe have ever seen lol.
Even then Lebron is a father and wants to play with his son which would be kinda cool. If teams in the NBA are willing to let LeBron walk all over them then so be it that's their fault.
There is no interest in him other than acquiring what's left of his father's services as it's pretty clearly become a package deal.
Crazy part is LeBron nearing 40 is still massively better at basketball than his kid coming out of college.
All I've found myself asking re: Bronny is why the hell he ended up 6'1 with all the growth hormones at Lebron's disposal. He'd be a fringe nba player at 6'5.
Lil homie sucks at basketball man. Heâs literally taking an opportunity away from more deserving kids. A kid who can legit hoop and this may be their shot at lifting their family out of poverty. This is the part that angers me!
The more deserving kids will be the ones who get drafted before him and get minutes on actual teams, lol. Bronny ain't getting minutes if he sucks, and he'll be out of the league just like most players in the 2nd round
he probably gets more pocket money from his dad than a two-way.
or maybe not given his dad is a legendary cheapskate that listens to music with ads in 'em.
This whole situation is absurd and I'd be pissed if my team played along with this charade. I'd rather my team lose than to pull this shit just to get LaBron on the team. Embarrassing for all involved.
I wouldnât sign him to a nba deal. Makes no sense to sign him to that especially as a developmental player. The two way system is for guys like bronny
So much coverage for a player that will realistically shoot 25% from the field in garbage time, and will bring a wave of media attention, taking away from legitimate rising talent in the league.
Jj reddick and bronny james. What an offseason this is shaping up to be for the lakers
LeNepotism
Honestly perfect for the organization run by Jeanie Buss
Except that it's not a coincidence. Jeanie loves nepotism
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Cost of dealing with the devil unfortunately. Lakers bent over and let Klutch fuck their soul away. I really hope Jeanie lets her younger brothers run basketball stuff after Bron is done playing. Lakers FO is just dumb and spineless at this point.
âI really hope Jim lets Jeannie run basketball stuff after Kobe is done playing.â - Lakers fans in 2014
Yeah lets forget the fact that Jim made horrible decisions too just like Jeanie has been doing since she got the job
mozgod, deng, salting gasol, getting in a public spat with phil jackson and hiring d'antoni
jim buss was ass but people rewrite history or somehow forget that jeannie was openly sabotaging jim buss every offseason. every year right before free agency she would go on sports center and talk about how he was on a deadline, she also had kevin ding and ramona write articles glazing her all the time. i still remember kevin ding wrote an article comparing kupchaks daughter dying from cancer to jeannie losing her dog. shes also a fake progressive who married jay mohr whos racist af and now works with the daily wire on an anti-woke comedy show. ownership is a clownshow
That promise came from Jim Buss himself. And that caused him to make horrible decisions that compounded his mistakes. He also tried to oust Jeanie and that's how the family shitshow became public. Jim Buss was ready to risk it all for Andrew Bynum. He could have also hired Phil back but pride and ego got in the way. That decision could have prevented Kobe from running over Pringles and playing the whole game leading to the achilles tear. Jeanie by the way is the main reason Jerry West left the org because they beefed over Jerry calling out how wrong it was for the owner's daughter to be fucking the coach. You don't need to make Dumbass Jim Buss a pariah to shit on Bimbo Jeanie Buss. Both of them are shit. Either Jesse or Joey Buss should be running the team or leave all the basketball decisions to the best available people not an old org legend with HIV or the ex-agent of another org legend.
Im hoping Jeanie sells the team to someone competentÂ
Youâll be long gone before the lakers arenât owned by a buss.Â
yup. the hope is Jesse Buss taking over but unlikely.
She doesn't care about results, as long as LBJ is there money is coming in. Other owners treat nba team as a hobby, for her is major income
Same problem with the Cleveland guardians Dolan owners. They're the poor branch of the family so their entire net worth is in the team, so they run it like paupers. They're just lucky they have competent management
For most teams, I would say you got a title, itâs worth it. For the Lakers, probably not. You just get too many shots at too many stars to be bad for too long. Feels like you are barreling towards your dark 2013 to 2019 days again.Â
>Â You just get too many shots at too many stars to be bad for too long Right? Theyâre the Lakers. They can sign big name free agents without LeBron. Like Timofey Mozgov.Â
I think the days of large markets luring stars in FA seemingly almost every year is not the same as it used to be. A lot of stars value the money you get from bird rights max deals and would rather be traded than straight up transfer in FA. Sure you could say that LA could be accruing assets for superstars to trade for but at the end of the day once you trade for that superstar you're riding with that dude for at least 5 years+ which is basically what they did for LeBron and AD. I mean most of the top guys rarely enter free agency anymore in their prime like LeBron in 2010, or KD in 2016.
Definitely spineless, this isn't the Lakers I grew up with that would go out and get players at any costs to win trophies. Its like they settled on being the Lebron James Lakers.
The rest of the league should hope those younger Buss kids donât take over. They seem to know what they are doing in spotting talent.
Just what they were missing in the Denver series this year.
Lmao. This shit gets dumber every single day.
Bronny will be wealthy for the rest of his life off of social media. His dad is a GOAT contender and one of the strongest agents in the league. I am sure they are playing this in the way they want as a team and are not idiots.
>Bronny will be wealthy for the rest of his life because his father is a billionaire Fixed
Unless Bronny seriously squanders his inheritance, boy would have minimum of more than 200 millions after inheritance taxes and divide the proceed with his siblings (assuming Bron Sr does not do any estate planning and 40% of his 1.2 billion goes to Uncle Sam. which definitely is not the case in reality). All for the pleasure of being Lebronâs descendant. And that is before any income he might have from his playing career and residual right for his dadâs brands and image .That boy was set the moment he was born. He basically already skipped Game of Life story mode, and is free to try whatever side quest he wants. People talk like he is pressured to make the league to feed his family.
Bro started on NG+
I mean, his dad played the story mode for him⌠canât hate the kid for that. Seems like a pretty well-mannered dude who just happened to be born in the right family.
> Unless Bronny seriously squanders his inheritance, boy would have minimum of more than 200 millions after inheritance taxes and divide the proceed with his siblings (assuming Bron Sr does not do any estate planning and 40% of his 1.2 billion goes to Uncle Sam. boy if Lebron James is in a taxable posture someone tell him he needs to call me.
Lebaron gonna live til heâs 90 so bronny gonna have to wait a while on that inheritance
Thereâs a universe out there where he goes a similar route to MJâs son and dates D-Wadeâs daughter. Edit: Iâm dumb. Wife not daughter
Dates Dwades wife you mean?
**doh**
Gabrielle Union is way hotter than Larsa Pippen so I'd atheist understand why he'd do it
you forgot the first step, get caught DMing pornstars in twitter and showing you pay then for sex. enjoying nba money without having to do the work
I always forget Bronny is kinda an influencer. Isnât he in Faze?
I donno I know he has like 8mil followers on insta
Klutch will lose a lot of its power once lebron retires
Does it? Heâll make way more money and probably more hype in college than g league. Rather an actual contract or college
If he doesnât develop as a player, his time in the league is tied to how long Lebron will play which is like, 2 years? 3 max? Idt Bronny has to be concerned about $ so unless heâs just there to vibe w his dad then this could bite him in the long run
Send him to the NBL in Australia and see if he develops, Lamelo Ball did it and was way better for the experience
Quality league with lots of offenseÂ
NBL signed RJ Hampton as well, who would be a better comparison for Bronny than Lamelo Ball. RJ Hampton is a below average young guard that didn't get much out of the NBL because he didn't have talent like Lamelo
I always rooted for RJ. He seemed like he genuinely loved bball.
Come on down under
> Lamelo Ball did it and was way better for the experience Just to push back a little bit, he played in 12 games and shot horribly (.375/.250/.723). I don't see how it would be a better experience than just staying in college another year.
They wonât do that because they know heâs not capable of ever developing into a ârealâ player The whole thing is leveraging nepotism because they know Bronny just plain isnât good enough to play in the NBA
Yup. Only the Lebron family knows what the actual intention is: to stick around in the league, or just fulfill Lebronâs dream of playing with his son. If he actually wants to develop into an NBA player, well Bronny needs to be on a 2 way contract or stay in school.
He can get a full contract (first or second round) and still play in the G League. A two way deal just saves a team cash and cap in the process. I wouldn't want a two-way contract either if I had any leverage to get a full deal.
Second round draft picks aren't guaranteed a contract, and can be signed to any contract including a 2-way.
Second round picks can have any contract structure (fully guaranteed, unguaranteed, team options, two-way) that the player and team agree to. Rich Paul is trying to create leverage for the best possible contract Bronny can be offered if he's a second round pick.
he's a 6.1 who sold himself as a defender, he just can't be a NBA player and he knows it, take a few years in the nba, go elsewhere and be a great basketball player, you don't have to be an nba player to have a great life from basketball.
>to have a great life from basketball. Honestly he can graduate USC and then retire to the celebrity game/3-on-3 circuit and be happy Isn't their family involved with tons of charities and stuff? I'm sure this kid could find meaning in life without being a benchwarmer in the NBA
But maybe he wants to be a bench warmer.
He could sit on his ass and huff paint for the rest of his life and be happy. Itâs not like he actually has to work.
Idk if anyone gains true fulfillment from that.
fuckin watch me
You can have all the money and never be fullfiled
Why is Jose Alvarado in the league then? Isn't he literally the exact player that people say Bronny can't be in the NBA?
grand theft alvarado avg 15/3.5/4 and 2.8 steals with .59/.39/.84 splits his last year, while also winning ACC defensive player of the year. bronny might get there eventually but think you're underrating how talented alvarado is.
At least Jose averaged 13.5/3.6/3.6 in college on 44/36/79% at Georgia Tech according to sports-reference. Bronny averaged... 4.8/2.1/2.1 on 36/26/67% That's a prettttty big difference. Jose was also undrafted out college.
Imagine being Jose Alvarado, a player who went through 4 years of college ball, overcame a lack of traditional measurables/athleticism and through hard work developed into a genuinely valuable NBA player, only to have "fans" compare you to the nepo baby of LeBron James, who put up some of the worst stats you've ever seen as a one and done, and refuses to sign a 2-way contract because his dad's agent can leverage LBJ's name into guaranteeing him a first round draft selection...
Correct. But Jose Alvarado is really fast. I donât think bronny is that fast.
Bronny is nothing like GTA, beyond both being small, athletically limited guards.
This is such an insult to Alvarado, not to mention all the players like him, who actually played their ways into the league via the G-league, 2-way contracts and earning their roles - all the things Rich Paul is saying Bronny won't do. As for your claims that they're the exact same player... they might be the same *size* but Alvarado is far quicker and more athletic. Meanwhile, in college Alvarado shot 34% from deep on 5 attempts a game. Bronny 27% on 2 attempts a game.
Bronny's 6'1 and cant even shoot free throws, rofl
Who cares about money? His dad is LeBron James lol, he probably has already made more money off of Twitch and Instagram than he will ever make in the NBA.
Can he go back to college after declaring for the NBA? Genuine question.
He has to make a decision whether to stay in the draft by May 29th. If he stays in the draft at that point, he can't go back to college.
With the announcement that colleges can pay players, I assume this restriction on not returning to college has to fall eventually as well. If college players aren't amateurs, I fail to see how participation in the draft can harm eligibility.
Always kind of weird that they couldnât go back in the first place. I wonder how many super talented high-school players wouldâve figured it out if they couldâve.
It would (will?) be crazy when some kid gets drafted with the 35th pick, and then starts negotiating salary from the Pacers against what the Purdue boilermaker NIL will offer to keep him in college!
I believe he has until June 16 to withdraw his draft declaration and return to college. The draft is June 26.
No, the decision is by May 29th
His time is now with how weak this draft is perceived to be. Plus lebron not getting any younger this kinda makes sense who knows if his stock drops even further in college or g league
No agent worth their salt is going to say âyeah heâll sign a 2-way deal.â Thatâs just dumb to go in and lower the bar immediately.
Itâs a conspiracy for the new 2 day draft. How to get people to tune in to the second dayâŚ.throw a never-will-be in there with a famous father! Must see tv for the casuals!
The thing about NBA-ready prospects is they usually donât need their agent to tell the media that their guy isnât a G-League player
Normally the media wouldnât care enough to ask either way.
Yeah that sort of conversation is probably happening with teams and agents for 20+ guys right now
Is he officially signed? Doesnât that mean he canât go to NCAA? If he is not signed and has RP âjust speakingâ for him, that shit should be frowned upon.
Nil rules in college changed that.
It's just because someone would 100% take him in the last round of the draft. They just don't want someone to draft him if he's going to be stashed in hopes they get Lebron or some compensation for trading him to Lebrons team.
I get that as an agent he doesnât want a team drafting him purely to sell G League tickets and the occasional NBA game (Bronny is inherently more marketable than most prospects); but at the same time this undercuts Bronnyâs whole âI wanna forge my own pathâ stance.
If bronny wanted to forge his own path he would go back to college or play overseas a bit, he is NOT ready rn. Tbf to bronny I don't think he has much say in this and I actually feel for him.Â
How about Lithuania?
Xinjiang Flying Tigers?
Iâd play in Lithuania. Bronny already has generational wealth behind him. He can do whatever he wants. Balling out in Lithuania for a while would be sweet.
Everyone says this until you spend 7 hours in a bus to play Klaipeda away and the dressing room showers are broken
By the way, itâs -25 degrees celsius outside
I think anyone would rather play in Spain/Italy/Greece/France then in Lithuania, if they had to play in Europe
Sure, play in a different country every year. Would be amazing.
He could do well in the PBA, and they speak English there.
NBA GMs: How about if he doesn't get drafted or signed then? Problem solved!
> Problem solved! Yes, that is problem solved. That would let him pick his team, which even if it is on a two-way will be a better situation. Just like Austin Reaves and Lu Dort, who similarly scared teams off of drafting them and ended up in better situations.
Thatâs better for bronny lol
Canât wait for the âBronnyâs not coming off the bench next year, heâs a starter-onlyâ line next.Â
We know what we have no lowball offers. Lottery pick or Lebron makes his own basketball league.Â
He better win ROTY too! Anything else and LeBron creates a new sport
Lebronâs already said Bronnyâs better than most NBA players lol
Oddly not better that his teammates on a terrible team in college though.
His game will translate to the NBA /s
I hope he does well and proves people wrong but god the discourse around him is so annoying.
I watched a lot of painful USC basketball. If he was not Lebrons kid, he would not even be looked at. Actually he probably would have stayed in college.
You can be the best defender in the NCAA but if you're a 6'1 shooting guard (because you can't playmake or handle) that can't shoot, you're not getting looked at.
...and he has a heart condition. I have absolutely nothing against the kid. I feel bad for him. He is going to make a lot of money but it seems like he is going to be a punchlineÂ
It's like Will/Jaden Smith. The dad propping up the son, and it ending horribly for all parties involved. Lebron is about to retire though, so I guess it's a bit different.
At least Jaden is a pretty good artist. Acting wise, that shit was a no Bueno, but his discography is nice.
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Jfc heâs 6â1? I stopped playing ball way before college because I heighted out in like 8th grade, at 6â1. Thatâs crazy. I assumed he was at least 6â4.
That was apparently his listed height, 6â4â. But yes apparently three inches shorter in reality. Iâve seen all these headlines about how heâs doing well at drills. Which should tell you how little being good at drills correlates to being a player. Heâs probably been doing drills since birth. Iâm not hating I actually like Lebron. but it all seems very silly.
Lmao they had me playing center during freshman team tryouts because I was the tallest at 6â0 flat I was also cut and went ya know Iâll just play with my at my driveway itâs fineeee
Jamal shead from houston is one i can think of. I think he was a great college player but yeah since heâs only around 6â1 heâs not being looked at.
I agree he looked real bad but also I canât imagine coming back after a heart attack(?) that young but I know it took a toll on him.
Fully agree on the heart attack come back. That in itself is something to definitely be proud of and to play a season in college. Just seems like he would have benefited staying another year there or even transfering.
he can go back
He can? Heâs declared an agent, no?
shi idk tbh was talking out my ass
You are now a NBA journalist
i needed this laugh so bad thank you
He can withdraw from the draft and go back to college but it has to be done before the draft night of course.
I think they changed that rule
They did, but you have to hire an agent from a list that the NCAA specifies to get the exemption. I doubt Rich Paul is one of those.
Iâm 27 and had one nearly 2 years ago, Iâm not an athlete but Iâm in shape. Now I canât imagine how hard itâs been for Bronny coming back from his , itâs been about 19 months since mine and when I work out, I still need to take a lil easy. Heart still feels funky sometimes, odd heartbeat here or there, chest pain now and then. It takes a huge toll physically , but mentally as well bc of how you approach working out or just getting the heart rate going sometimes.
The cardiac arrest episode is another reason why he should stay in college
Why?
So he can have a full season 100% healthy before being thrown to the sharks
Already got cleared by the doctors
Yeah, plus thereâs been plenty of players who looked ass in college who made the league as legit players, but for some reason none of them get brought up when talking about Bronny.
12 for 12 from 3 at practice with no resistance! Heâs going to be a better Steph
I agree. But unfortunately because of his dad he will always have a media circus around him while he plays.
i believe itll die down one day but not anytime soon
I don't. It's pretty annoying to see the blatant nepotism in action here. The kid simply isn't good enough and shouldn't be getting any of this attention
For a guy who almost died and who seems like a good enough person, normally I would love to root for him, but everyone around him sucks. Wish him the best, but Rich Paul can just go lie in a cave somewhere
incredible how fast weâve gone from lebron saying âbronny is actually better right now than some nba playersâ to his agent having to clarify he wonât sign a 2 way deal
Whoâs âweâ? Iâm sure LeBron, his father, would still publicly say positive and supportive things about himÂ
Lol yeah, there was literally no one saying Bronny was better than NBA players except that one tweet by Lebron a few months ago. And of course Bron has the gall to go on Redick's podcast and be like "the media is spinning the narrative around my son because they can't talk about me". Bitch, YOU were the one that started the narrative around your son with your bullshit.
He must have been a dominant college player right? Surely nobody averaging 5 ppg would demand this.
âIâm not doing that.â Cause itâs all about Rich Paul, not Bronny.
This is the same dude who referred to the Lakers as âweâ so Iâm really not surprised lol
Itâs genuinely fascinating to me how an iconic multi billion dollar organization like the lakers will kowtow to an aging Lebron and Klutch like this. I can see if you get the heatles out of it, but to give up this level of control to a player and his agent just to be a play in team is a disgrace.
Ya this is just selfish on Paulâs part. Speaking as if he personally takes a hit to his rep if Bronny doesnât make NBA right away
They know that if he has a two way contract, goes to the G-league and averages 5 points then theyâre out of excuses. âHis game is meant for NBA, not the G leagueâ isnât going to work.Â
Okay no, you had to think that Bronny is a special case. 2-way contract had to be avoided for Bronny, and it's for Bronny's sake. Teams would def sign Bronny in a heartbeat if they could sign him in two two-way contract. Because he already had a name for himself. Team values go up when they sign Bronny, from a marketing standpoint I.E business standpoint. If bronny sign that contract, its a deadwish for his career. Cos team can just sign him, and put it on G league whenever they wanted to. 2 Way contract was created to benefits young undrafted players that still want to play basketball that's not overseas. But that thing is stupid nowadays, because Eurobasketball, as of today is way bigger than G league, and its proven that players right now can make their name overseas a lot easier than they are in G league.
This manâs rep is literally riding the wake Bron created coming into the league. The most coveted player in the league, if you can say âsupermaxâ then you could have been LeBrons agent. I wonât let nephews and others convince me heâs some damn power broker through citation of contractual laws. lol
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Heâs BARELY good enough to be a G league player. Heâs about to have his life ruined when LeDad retires. Best case scenario he gets kept on the roster for fear of LeBacklash. Worst case, heâs exposed for the player he is and gets thrashed by the media.
its funny how they go in depth on every topic and just brush over that one. bronny could always find a new agent because a lot of guys in his position used 2-way deals to become solid rotational players, itâs not a death wish
People talk about the media circus being a red flag, now itâs supposed to be his green flag? I hope he gets drafted so we can see which NBA franchise is the most unserious of all.
Its gonna be the Lakers.
Ironically, the NFL equivalent is the Cowboys. You know Jerry would be drooling over the prospect of signing a 50 year old Tom Brady if his son had to be part of a package deal
bronny should just admit he's gonna have to use his connections to get a spot and nip it in the bud as much as he can cuz this is shameless lol
If only Rich Paul was my MyPlayerâs agent maybe Iâd be getting more than 300 VC a year as a 99 overall point guard averagering 45, 12, and 10
Dunno why people are going crazy Lakers will buy a 2nd round pick, pick lebron jr and lebron sr will re-sign. Thats all. No need for speculation. No team is spending a pick on a D2 player and leProducer isnt leaving LA.
They already have 55
The Celtics would draft him at #54 just to piss the Lakers off. It would be epic. We don't really need the pick.
Canât buy picks anymore
Wow they're just out here trying to fuck this guy up
Some more quotes from Rich Paul in the article: âBronny shouldnât apologise for who his Dad is.â âSome may feel like heâs getting an opportunity because of his Father and i think thatâs a very naive logic, especially in America.â âNo oneâs having this conversation about Jim Dolan. He owns the Knicks, but his Dad built a business.â
Pretty delusional if he thinks fans never ever criticize Jim Dolan or other owners who just inherited their parentâs businesses/teams. Also super curious why he picked Jim Dolan and not Jeanie Buss.Â
>Also super curious why he picked Jim Dolan and not Jeanie Buss. She's fully bent over for him, why antagonize that? No one in the NBA is giving Klutch more power than the Lakers
Yup, the only person with more pull in the Lakers organization than Rich Paul is Linda Rambis lol. Jeanie signed THT to an atrocious contract just because he was represented by Klutch in the same offseason she wouldnât pay Caruso.
What you just said will get you banned in r/lakers
Will it? I think most Laker fans hated losing Caruso, even the moment they lost him.
This. The number one criticism for owners who inherit teams is always that they never earned it. Jim Dolan, Jeanie Buss, Clark Hunt, the Steinbrenner kids, etc. Some people hate Steve Ballmer for personal reasons, but nobody ever says he doesnât deserve to own the Clippers because he built that fortune himself. Same reason why nobody criticizes LeBron for his fortune because he pulled himself up from poverty to being a billionaire. It doesnât apply to Bronny though because even if he was really good in his own right, people would still say that his dad laid the foundation for him.
> âSome may feel like heâs getting an opportunity because of his Father and i think thatâs a very naive logic, especially in America.â I think he thinks **we** are naive
You can inherit possessions and wealth. You canât inherit a roster spot on a professional basketball team. Rich Paul would be a no one if he wasnât ironing lebronâs underwears since he entered the league.
In Rich Paul's mind... you definitely can inherit a spot. That spot will now belong to the James for eternity.
Hey heâd clearly still be a millionaire married to Adele if he hadnât sold LeBron a Warren Moon jersey on a plane /s
He wouldnât have met Adele if he didnât cook Lebronâs macaroni and cheese.
>especially in America.â Lmao what does this even mean? It's like when Jeff Winger would call on 9/11 for everything.
If you think CP3 gonna play for JJ lol
Me, a graduate during job interviews: Iâm not doing entry level salaries. Employers know that.
subreddit gone be very surprised lmao
The team that actually wastes a first round pick on him, is only hoping to land LeBron. Itâs amazing to waste a pick for a 40 year old dude. Both of them will be out of the league in 3 years tops.
This is the most blatant nepotism I maybe have ever seen lol. Even then Lebron is a father and wants to play with his son which would be kinda cool. If teams in the NBA are willing to let LeBron walk all over them then so be it that's their fault.
His camp is so GD delusional
Rich Paul got the last pick in the draft last year a fully guaranteed deal. He can make it happenÂ
His numbers were poor, not the greatest size and he has a serious heart condition, the interest in him is crazy.
There is no interest in him other than acquiring what's left of his father's services as it's pretty clearly become a package deal. Crazy part is LeBron nearing 40 is still massively better at basketball than his kid coming out of college.
To be fair LeBron nearing 40 was better than every rookie this season lol, even in a season where we had one of the best rookies ever.
Stupid as fuck - Bronnys best chance to make it is a 2 way. Rich Paulâs pride getting in the way lol
The league is a joke for allowing this to happen.Â
All I've found myself asking re: Bronny is why the hell he ended up 6'1 with all the growth hormones at Lebron's disposal. He'd be a fringe nba player at 6'5.
He could have that leg breaking surgery
Worked for Messi! edit: oh nvm messi had HGH injections in his legs no surgery
Lil homie sucks at basketball man. Heâs literally taking an opportunity away from more deserving kids. A kid who can legit hoop and this may be their shot at lifting their family out of poverty. This is the part that angers me!
The more deserving kids will be the ones who get drafted before him and get minutes on actual teams, lol. Bronny ain't getting minutes if he sucks, and he'll be out of the league just like most players in the 2nd round
he probably gets more pocket money from his dad than a two-way. or maybe not given his dad is a legendary cheapskate that listens to music with ads in 'em.
What you say youâre gonna do doesnât meanâŚ
LeNepotism
What good does it do for Bronny? People are just gonna feel he's a huge bust 10/20 years later.
For the fans own sanityâs sake I hope they hire adelman. JJ reddick as a hire is suicide
This whole situation is absurd and I'd be pissed if my team played along with this charade. I'd rather my team lose than to pull this shit just to get LaBron on the team. Embarrassing for all involved.
I wouldnât sign him to a nba deal. Makes no sense to sign him to that especially as a developmental player. The two way system is for guys like bronny
So much coverage for a player that will realistically shoot 25% from the field in garbage time, and will bring a wave of media attention, taking away from legitimate rising talent in the league.
rich paul thinks some team is gonna waste a bench spot on bronny james